Re: daylight savings time

2008-03-19 Thread Nerius Landys

 The port misc/zoneinfo is what you need.

 I installed this port and ran 'tzsetup' afterwards.  Everything works
now.  Thanks.

I also edited /etc/make.conf to include the line MK_ZONEINFO=no as per the
instructions in the file /usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo/pkg-descr.  However, in my
5.5 distribution, /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf has no mention of this
variable (in fact my 7.0 FreeBSD computer has no mention of MK_ZONEINFO in
this file either).  So my question is - will the zoneinfo get clobbered if
and when I ever reinstall world?  Where can I find a comprehensive list of
available make options that can be put into make.conf?
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daylight savings time

2008-03-18 Thread Nerius Landys
I'm running FreeBSD 5.5.  I'm in California and my hardware clock is set to
UTC I believe (how to check if it's important?).  Ever since the daylight
saving time shift here in California a couple of weeks ago my clock has been
late by one hour.  For example right now it is 7:28 PM and my computer says:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
Tue Mar 18 18:28:08 PST 2008

I have NTP running and I verified that it works by setting the clock to be
off by one hour and one minute (basically nudge the time by one minute) and
the clock synchronizes itself to be accurate to the minute and second but
off by one hour.

Does anyone know how to fix this?  Is there some sort of updated time zone
data that I need?  Thanks in advance.

-Nerius
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Re: daylight savings time

2008-03-18 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 07:31:01PM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote:

[...]
 I have NTP running and I verified that it works by setting the clock to be
 off by one hour and one minute (basically nudge the time by one minute) and
 the clock synchronizes itself to be accurate to the minute and second but
 off by one hour.
 
 Does anyone know how to fix this?  Is there some sort of updated time zone
 data that I need?  Thanks in advance.

The port misc/zoneinfo is what you need.

Alternatively, you can tweak the zoneinfo file in /usr/src/share/zoneinfo
yourself and zic(8) it; and then copying/linking the appropriate compiled
zoneinfo file to /etc/localtime.
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Re: daylight savings time

2008-03-18 Thread D Hill

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 at 19:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:


I'm running FreeBSD 5.5.  I'm in California and my hardware clock is set to
UTC I believe (how to check if it's important?).  Ever since the daylight
saving time shift here in California a couple of weeks ago my clock has been
late by one hour.  For example right now it is 7:28 PM and my computer says:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
Tue Mar 18 18:28:08 PST 2008

I have NTP running and I verified that it works by setting the clock to be
off by one hour and one minute (basically nudge the time by one minute) and
the clock synchronizes itself to be accurate to the minute and second but
off by one hour.

Does anyone know how to fix this?  Is there some sort of updated time zone
data that I need?  Thanks in advance.


Our server BIOS clocks are set to UTC. To ensure UTC time in FBSD, I've 
always removed the file /etc/localtime. FBSD will default to UTC if it can 
not find /etc/localtime (at least that's what I've witnessed since FBSD 
5.5).


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Re: daylight savings time

2008-03-18 Thread D Hill

Never mind. I was assuming the server was running in UTC.

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 at 03:53 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:


On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 at 19:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:


I'm running FreeBSD 5.5.  I'm in California and my hardware clock is set to
UTC I believe (how to check if it's important?).  Ever since the daylight
saving time shift here in California a couple of weeks ago my clock has 
been
late by one hour.  For example right now it is 7:28 PM and my computer 
says:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
Tue Mar 18 18:28:08 PST 2008

I have NTP running and I verified that it works by setting the clock to be
off by one hour and one minute (basically nudge the time by one minute) and
the clock synchronizes itself to be accurate to the minute and second but
off by one hour.

Does anyone know how to fix this?  Is there some sort of updated time zone
data that I need?  Thanks in advance.


Our server BIOS clocks are set to UTC. To ensure UTC time in FBSD, I've 
always removed the file /etc/localtime. FBSD will default to UTC if it can 
not find /etc/localtime (at least that's what I've witnessed since FBSD 5.5).


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RE: Daylight Savings time

2008-03-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lisa Casey
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:19 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Daylight Savings time
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I suspect my FreeBSD 5.2 system isn't going to handle the change 
 to Daylight Savings Time correctly next weekend:
 
 zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2008
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 06:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 
 01:59:59 2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 07:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 
 03:00:00 2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 05:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 
 01:59:59 2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 06:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 
 01:00:00 2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
 
 Could someone help me remember the steps I need to take to correct this?
 

Here's a little very hacky script I put together last year.
I forget where you get the current timezone files, you can
google for that.  The process is explained in the script.
you will need to adjust for your location, it should be
obvious where.

Some BSD versions uses a link.  Some other unices just copy the zonefile
in.  I manage a number of different unices.


#!/bin/sh
zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
echo  If sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK
echo Otherwise stop script now and rerun from clean temp dir
echo also ls -l /etc |more and check that localtime is not a link
sleep 5
fetch ftp://server.example.com/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz
tar -xzf tzdata2007c.tar.gz
zic -d zoneinfo northamerica
cp -R zoneinfo/* /usr/share/zoneinfo
zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT | grep 2007
zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007
echo if localtime is a link then Cntl-C, stop and rm /etc/localtime then
echo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime
sleep 5
cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime
zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
echo If Sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK
echo now rm -r this temp dir


Ted
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RE: Daylight Savings time

2008-03-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Trulsson
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:04 PM
 To: Lisa Casey
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Daylight Savings time


 On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 03:18:52PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I suspect my FreeBSD 5.2 system isn't going to handle the
 change to Daylight Savings Time correctly next weekend:
 
  zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2008
  /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 06:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6
 01:59:59 2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
  /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 07:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6
 03:00:00 2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
  /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 05:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26
 01:59:59 2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
  /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 06:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26
 01:00:00 2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
 
  Could someone help me remember the steps I need to take to correct this?
 

 Install the misc/zoneinfo port, which will install an updated
 zoneinfo file on your
 machine, and then run tzsetup(8) to update /etc/localtime.


That may work on 5, I don't know.

It won't work on 4 since the ports structure is so different now.

Ted

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Re: Daylight Savings time

2008-03-02 Thread Fred C

The file does not exist...


/usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo# make
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
= tzdata2007j.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/.
fetch: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007j.tar.gz: File  
unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

= Attempting to fetch from http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/.
fetch: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/tzdata2007j.tar.gz: Not Found
= Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ 
.
fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/tzdata2007j.tar.gz 
: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

= Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
= port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo.
/usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo#


On Mar 1, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:


On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 03:18:52PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote:

Hi,

I suspect my FreeBSD 5.2 system isn't going to handle the change to  
Daylight Savings Time correctly next weekend:


zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2008
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 06:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 01:59:59  
2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 07:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 03:00:00  
2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 05:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:59:59  
2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 06:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:00:00  
2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000


Could someone help me remember the steps I need to take to correct  
this?




Install the misc/zoneinfo port, which will install an updated  
zoneinfo file on your

machine, and then run tzsetup(8) to update /etc/localtime.




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Re: Daylight Savings time

2008-03-02 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 10:08:39AM -0800, Fred C wrote:
 The file does not exist...
 
 
 /usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo# make
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 = tzdata2007j.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 = Attempting to fetch from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/.

Update your ports tree.  You are trying to fetch an outdated version
of the file.  The version it (currently) should fetch is tzdata2007k.tar.gz




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Daylight Savings time

2008-03-01 Thread Lisa Casey
Hi,

I suspect my FreeBSD 5.2 system isn't going to handle the change to Daylight 
Savings Time correctly next weekend:

zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2008
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 06:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 01:59:59 2008 EST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 07:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 03:00:00 2008 EDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 05:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:59:59 2008 EDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 06:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:00:00 2008 EST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000

Could someone help me remember the steps I need to take to correct this?

Thanks,

Lisa Casey
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Re: Daylight Savings time

2008-03-01 Thread Erik Norgaard

Lisa Casey wrote:

Hi,

I suspect my FreeBSD 5.2 system isn't going to handle the change to Daylight 
Savings Time correctly next weekend:

zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2008
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 06:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 01:59:59 2008 EST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 07:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 03:00:00 2008 EDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 05:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:59:59 2008 EDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 06:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:00:00 2008 EST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000

Could someone help me remember the steps I need to take to correct this?


IIRC DST dates were changed last year and patches made for 6.x and 
CURRENT. I suppose these where not merged to the legacy branches.


You can try zone files for a newer version, see if it works - or maybe 
while you're at it consider upgrading.


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Re: Daylight Savings time

2008-03-01 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 03:18:52PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I suspect my FreeBSD 5.2 system isn't going to handle the change to Daylight 
 Savings Time correctly next weekend:
 
 zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2008
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 06:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 01:59:59 2008 EST 
 isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  6 07:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Apr  6 03:00:00 2008 EDT 
 isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 05:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:59:59 2008 EDT 
 isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 26 06:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:00:00 2008 EST 
 isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
 
 Could someone help me remember the steps I need to take to correct this?
 

Install the misc/zoneinfo port, which will install an updated zoneinfo file on 
your
machine, and then run tzsetup(8) to update /etc/localtime.




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Re: Daylight Savings time

2008-03-01 Thread Lisa Casey

Hi again,

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Trulsson

To: Lisa Casey
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings time


Install the misc/zoneinfo port, which will install an updated zoneinfo 
file on your

machine, and then run tzsetup(8) to update /etc/localtime.


I think that's the info I was looking for. I ran tzsetup, but of course that 
did no good. I'll install the port first. Thanks.


Lisa Casey





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Daylight Savings Time -- /etc/localtime and what else?

2007-03-11 Thread V.I.Victor

A month ago I downloaded tzdata2007b.tar.gz, compiled it and installed a new 
/etc/localtime.  All seemed OK.

Now, after the time change, I've had to restart both 'fetchmail' and 'sendmail' 
to get '/var/log/maillog' in-sync with the new time.  Not a problem; apparently 
these processes use time-data based on their original startup.

But what else needs to be restarted?  'top' (edited) for root shows:

  PID  STATETIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
  242  select   4:37  0.00%  0.00% syslogd
  386  nanslp   3:28  0.00%  0.00% cron
  418  select   0:32  0.00%  0.00% inetd
18001  select   0:01  0.00%  0.00% sshd
 6985  RUN  0:00  0.00%  0.00% top
 6844  pause0:00  0.00%  0.00% csh
  423  ttyin0:00  0.00%  0.00% getty (x8 Lines)
  167  pause0:00  0.00%  0.00% adjkerntz
  224  select   0:00  0.00%  0.00% devd

Maybe 'cron' -- daily  security email is an hour off.

Should I just restart the whole system? (FreeBSD 5.4, i386)




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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-22 Thread Damian Wiest
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 01:31:22PM -0700, hal wrote:
 This came down from above?!
 
 Beginning in 2007, Daylight Savings Time will be lengthened one month  
 by starting three weeks earlier (2AM on the second Sunday in March)  
 and ending one week later (2AM on the first Sunday in November).
 
 
 What patch levels do I need to be at for my 4.7 and 6.1 systems to be
 daylight savings 2007 ready?
 
 Currently: 4.11-RELEASE-p25
 
 Currently: 6.1-RELEASE-p10
 
 hal

You can grab the latest zoneinfo file from http://www.nih.gov/ and
recompile it with /usr/sbin/zic.

Yeah, you could use the ports tree, but I prefer using methods that
are a little more portable across operating systems.  I've got like
two dozen different OS releases of various flavors to update with the 
new timezone information. 

-Damian
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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
hal wrote:

 6.2-STABLE
 
 zdump -v -c 2008 MST7MDT
 
 MST7MDT  Sun Mar 11 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 MST
 isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200
 MST7MDT  Sun Mar 11 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 MDT
 isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
 MST7MDT  Sun Nov  4 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 MDT
 isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
 MST7MDT  Sun Nov  4 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 MST
 isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200
 
 Shows the new MST - MDT and MDT - MST dates
 
 zdump -v -c 2008 /etc/localtime
 
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 01:59:59 2007
 MST isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200
 /etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 03:00:00 2007
 MDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007
 MDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 2007
 MST isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200
 
 Shows the old MST - MDT and MDT - MST dates
 
 What did I miss?  What do I do next?

Your /etc/localtime is probably a copy of the old zoneinfo data, left
over from a previous incarnation.  Just copy the updated zoneinfo data
for your local timezone (I'm assuming it is MST7MDT) over it.

cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/MST7MDT /etc/localtime

[You could make /etc/localtime a link or a symlink to the appropriate
file under /usr/share/zoneinfo, but only if /etc and /usr/share/zoneinfo
happen to be on the same filesystem (ie. on the root filesystem), which
is not the case in the  default install of FreeBSD]

There is yet another copy of localtime in /var/named/etc/localtime which
you should also update in the came way if you're running named at all.

Cheers,

Matthew


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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-20 Thread Javier Henderson

Your /etc/localtime is probably a copy of the old zoneinfo data, left
over from a previous incarnation.


My system at home is running 6.2-RELEASE:

 zdump -v /etc/localtime | more

(...)

/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 31 06:59:59 1918 UTC = Sun Mar 31 01:59:59  
1918 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 31 07:00:00 1918 UTC = Sun Mar 31 03:00:00  
1918 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 27 05:59:59 1918 UTC = Sun Oct 27 01:59:59  
1918 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 27 06:00:00 1918 UTC = Sun Oct 27 01:00:00  
1918 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000


Same if I look at /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT.

I looked in the files for the zoneinfo port, same deal.

What am I missing?

-jav

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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-20 Thread Javier Henderson


On Jan 20, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:


Errr --- why are you looking at when daylight savings changes happened
in 1918?


Yeah, I noticed that after I sent the email.

Duh.

-jav


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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
Javier Henderson wrote:
 Your /etc/localtime is probably a copy of the old zoneinfo data, left
 over from a previous incarnation.
 
 My system at home is running 6.2-RELEASE:
 
 zdump -v /etc/localtime | more
 
 (...)
 
 /etc/localtime  Sun Mar 31 06:59:59 1918 UTC = Sun Mar 31 01:59:59 1918
 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
 /etc/localtime  Sun Mar 31 07:00:00 1918 UTC = Sun Mar 31 03:00:00 1918
 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 27 05:59:59 1918 UTC = Sun Oct 27 01:59:59 1918
 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
 /etc/localtime  Sun Oct 27 06:00:00 1918 UTC = Sun Oct 27 01:00:00 1918
 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
 
 Same if I look at /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT.
 
 I looked in the files for the zoneinfo port, same deal.
 
 What am I missing?

Errr --- why are you looking at when daylight savings changes happened
in 1918? Try something like this:

happy-idiot-talk:~:% zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT | grep '200[67]'
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Apr  2 06:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Apr  2 01:59:59 
2006 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Apr  2 07:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Apr  2 03:00:00 
2006 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Oct 29 05:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29 01:59:59 
2006 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Oct 29 06:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29 01:00:00 
2006 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 
2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 
2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Nov  4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 
2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT  Sun Nov  4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 
2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000


Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-20 Thread Pete Slagle
Matthew Seaman wrote:

 [You could make /etc/localtime a link or a symlink to the appropriate
 file under /usr/share/zoneinfo, but only if /etc and /usr/share/zoneinfo
 happen to be on the same filesystem (ie. on the root filesystem), which
 is not the case in the  default install of FreeBSD]

As you suggest, making /etc/localtime a symlink ensures that the current
/usr/share/zoneinfo file is always the one that actually gets used.
That's an easy and significant benefit. So, why not do this on all
boxes, even those that have / and /usr under separate filesystems?

Granted, localtime will be unreadable whenever /usr is not mounted, but
is that really a problem? Typically it will only be an issue at
boot-time and in single user mode.  The current time and file system
times will be displayed in UTC, but this is only a small temporary
inconvenience for the operator. Cron might not do its work as expected,
but it is unlikely to be running in circumstances where /usr is not
mounted.  Perhaps some log files might be affected, but if /usr isn't
mounted, then /var probably isn't either.

Have I missed some big potential problem that might outweigh the benefit
of using the symlink even when /etc/localtime and /usr/share/zoneinfo
are on separate filesystems?


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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-19 Thread hal


On Jan  18, 2007, at Thursday, Jan18, 2007 5:36 PM, Murray Taylor wrote:



This is an issue here at work. We have very many FreeBSD 4.x
machines and a
growing number of FreeBSD 6.x. The change when daylight
saving time starts
and ends is an issue for machines in the United States and, we think,
those in Canada. The way to check if your zone file is
correct is to do

zdump -v /etc/localtime | more

Look for the following


/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11
01:59:59 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11
03:00:00 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4
01:59:59 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4
01:00:00 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800

If you see this, your zone file will handle the change
correctly. The 6.x
series has the corrected zone files. 4.x does not have this.
The best way
to handle this is to copy the zone file from
/usr/share/zoneinfo on a 6.x
machine to your 4.x.


Josef



Interesting:

Just did an upgrade to 6.2-STABLE from 6.1-RELEASE-p10 and here is  
what I see.


uname -r

6.2-STABLE

zdump -v -c 2008 MST7MDT

MST7MDT  Sun Mar 11 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 MST  
isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200
MST7MDT  Sun Mar 11 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 MDT  
isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
MST7MDT  Sun Nov  4 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 MDT  
isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
MST7MDT  Sun Nov  4 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 MST  
isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200


Shows the new MST - MDT and MDT - MST dates

zdump -v -c 2008 /etc/localtime

/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 01:59:59  
2007 MST isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 03:00:00  
2007 MDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 07:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59  
2007 MDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-21600
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 08:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00  
2007 MST isdst=0 gmtoff=-25200


Shows the old MST - MDT and MDT - MST dates

What did I miss?  What do I do next?

hal
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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-18 Thread Josef Grosch
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 01:31:22PM -0700, hal wrote:
 This came down from above?!
 
 Beginning in 2007, Daylight Savings Time will be lengthened one month  
 by starting three weeks earlier (2AM on the second Sunday in March)  
 and ending one week later (2AM on the first Sunday in November).
 
 
 What patch levels do I need to be at for my 4.7 and 6.1 systems to be
 daylight savings 2007 ready?
 
 Currently: 4.11-RELEASE-p25
 
 Currently: 6.1-RELEASE-p10
 
 hal


This is an issue here at work. We have very many FreeBSD 4.x machines and a
growing number of FreeBSD 6.x. The change when daylight saving time starts
and ends is an issue for machines in the United States and, we think,
those in Canada. The way to check if your zone file is correct is to do

zdump -v /etc/localtime | more

Look for the following


/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800

If you see this, your zone file will handle the change correctly. The 6.x
series has the corrected zone files. 4.x does not have this. The best way
to handle this is to copy the zone file from /usr/share/zoneinfo on a 6.x
machine to your 4.x. 


Josef

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RE: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-18 Thread Murray Taylor
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josef Grosch
 Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 10:59 AM
 To: hal
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11
 
 On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 01:31:22PM -0700, hal wrote:
  This came down from above?!
  
  Beginning in 2007, Daylight Savings Time will be lengthened 
 one month  
  by starting three weeks earlier (2AM on the second Sunday 
 in March)  
  and ending one week later (2AM on the first Sunday in November).
  
  
  What patch levels do I need to be at for my 4.7 and 6.1 
 systems to be
  daylight savings 2007 ready?
  
  Currently: 4.11-RELEASE-p25
  
  Currently: 6.1-RELEASE-p10
  
  hal
 
 
 This is an issue here at work. We have very many FreeBSD 4.x 
 machines and a
 growing number of FreeBSD 6.x. The change when daylight 
 saving time starts
 and ends is an issue for machines in the United States and, we think,
 those in Canada. The way to check if your zone file is 
 correct is to do
 
 zdump -v /etc/localtime | more
 
 Look for the following
 
 
 /etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 
 01:59:59 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
 /etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 
 03:00:00 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
 /etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 
 01:59:59 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
 /etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 
 01:00:00 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
 
 If you see this, your zone file will handle the change 
 correctly. The 6.x
 series has the corrected zone files. 4.x does not have this. 
 The best way
 to handle this is to copy the zone file from 
 /usr/share/zoneinfo on a 6.x
 machine to your 4.x. 
 
 
 Josef


port misc/zoneinfo

runs on all os versions, fixes all zone files 

caveat: current ports tree
caveat: only works if the DST change has been added to the NIST 
   master files  

mjt
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Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-16 Thread hal

This came down from above?!

Beginning in 2007, Daylight Savings Time will be lengthened one month  
by starting three weeks earlier (2AM on the second Sunday in March)  
and ending one week later (2AM on the first Sunday in November).



What patch levels do I need to be at for my 4.7 and 6.1 systems to be
daylight savings 2007 ready?

Currently: 4.11-RELEASE-p25

Currently: 6.1-RELEASE-p10

hal



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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-16 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 16), hal said:
 Beginning in 2007, Daylight Savings Time will be lengthened one month
 by starting three weeks earlier (2AM on the second Sunday in March)
 and ending one week later (2AM on the first Sunday in November).
 
 What patch levels do I need to be at for my 4.7 and 6.1 systems to be
 daylight savings 2007 ready?
 
 Currently: 4.11-RELEASE-p25
 
 Currently: 6.1-RELEASE-p10

Since it's not a security issue, I doubt the new zone files will go
into any -p# branch.  If you were tracking the main branches (RELENG_4
or RELENG_6) instead of a -RELEASE branch (RELENG_4_11 or RELENG_6_1),
you would have them, though.  Quickest fix would be to install the
misc/zoneinfo port, which doesn't care what release you're running.

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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-16 Thread hal


On Jan  16, 2007, at Tuesday, Jan16, 2007 1:59 PM, Dan Nelson wrote:



Since it's not a security issue, I doubt the new zone files will go
into any -p# branch.  If you were tracking the main branches (RELENG_4
or RELENG_6) instead of a -RELEASE branch (RELENG_4_11 or RELENG_6_1),
you would have them, though.  Quickest fix would be to install the
misc/zoneinfo port, which doesn't care what release you're running.


Whoa there?!  Are you telling me that when I use cvsup with
the following supfile I am only getting security fixes?

*default tag=RELENG_6_1
*default host=cvsup14.FreeBSD.org
*default prefix=/usr
*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix

hal
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Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11

2007-01-16 Thread Matt Emmerton
 On Jan  16, 2007, at Tuesday, Jan16, 2007 1:59 PM, Dan Nelson wrote:

  Since it's not a security issue, I doubt the new zone files will go
  into any -p# branch.  If you were tracking the main branches (RELENG_4
  or RELENG_6) instead of a -RELEASE branch (RELENG_4_11 or RELENG_6_1),
  you would have them, though.  Quickest fix would be to install the
  misc/zoneinfo port, which doesn't care what release you're running.

 Whoa there?!  Are you telling me that when I use cvsup with
 the following supfile I am only getting security fixes?

 *default tag=RELENG_6_1
 *default host=cvsup14.FreeBSD.org
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix

From
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html:

RELENG_6_1
 The release branch for FreeBSD-6.1, used only for security advisories
and other critical fixes

I'm sure a case could be made with regard to updated timezone information
being critical -- but since a port exists for timezone information, there
is less of a need to push this into the release branch.

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