documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread gs_stol...@juno.com
  I remember that there was a documentation project going on for  
FreeBSD  and
I'd like know its status and  URL .  Hopefully there is a good index (I 
consider this an
essential tool in books).  Another section I would like to see is one about 
internet
access and also the subsection about  email .  I want to be able to access my  
juno email 
account and see a list of the received emails (with the name of the sender, the 
subject,
and date  time sent, possibly other data), be able to select emails to read 
(and to
delete them after they are read at the reader's discretion).  There is also the 
flip side,
the ability to create emails, specify to whom they are to be sent, and send 
them.

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Re: documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread Ross Cameron
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM, gs_stol...@juno.com
gs_stol...@juno.comwrote:

  I remember that there was a documentation project going on for
  FreeBSD  and
 I'd like know its status and  URL .  Hopefully there is a good index (I
 consider this an
 essential tool in books).


On the FRONT PAGE of the FreeBSD.org website there is a big ole button with
the word Documentation on it?
The link (for the truely lazy) is : http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html


  Another section I would like to see is one about internet
 access and also the subsection about  email .  I want to be able to access
 my  juno email
 account and see a list of the received emails (with the name of the sender,
 the subject,
 and date  time sent, possibly other data), be able to select emails to
 read (and to
 delete them after they are read at the reader's discretion).  There is also
 the flip side,
 the ability to create emails, specify to whom they are to be sent, and send
 them.


All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA)
application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is
HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the manual...

Install a few and decide for youreself what suits you best.
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Re: documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:04:58 +0200
Ross Cameron ross.came...@linuxpro.co.za wrote:

 All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA)
 application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is
 HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the
 manual...

You mean something like
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mail-agents.html ? :)

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Re: documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 01/18/2011 12:04 PM, Ross Cameron wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM, gs_stol...@juno.com
 gs_stol...@juno.comwrote:

  I remember that there was a documentation project going on for
  FreeBSD  and
 I'd like know its status and  URL .  Hopefully there is a good index (I
 consider this an
 essential tool in books).

 On the FRONT PAGE of the FreeBSD.org website there is a big ole button with
 the word Documentation on it?
 The link (for the truely lazy) is : http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html

  Another section I would like to see is one about internet
 access and also the subsection about  email .  I want to be able to access
 my  juno email
 account and see a list of the received emails (with the name of the sender,
 the subject,
 and date  time sent, possibly other data), be able to select emails to
 read (and to
 delete them after they are read at the reader's discretion).  There is also
 the flip side,
 the ability to create emails, specify to whom they are to be sent, and send
 them.

 All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA)
 application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is
 HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the manual...

Even this is in the Handbook
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mail-agents.html

 Install a few and decide for youreself what suits you best.


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Re: documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread Ross Cameron
Considering the wording of the original posting I HIGHLY doubt the OP would
be willing to use PINE/MUTT/MAIL.

So they hardly count,... 99% chances (my bet anyways) are that hey wanted a
GUI app for this.




Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in
overalls and looks like work.
Thomas Alva Edison
Inventor of 1093 patents, including:
The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures.



On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:04:58 +0200
 Ross Cameron ross.came...@linuxpro.co.za wrote:

  All of the above is accomplished using a Mail User Agent (MUA)
  application,... there are litterally thousands to choose from so it is
  HIGHLY unlikely that any open source OS will include this in the
  manual...

 You mean something like
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mail-agents.html ? :)

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 Bruce Cran

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Re: documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:07:12 +0200, Ross Cameron ross.came...@linuxpro.co.za 
wrote:
 Considering the wording of the original posting I HIGHLY doubt the OP would
 be willing to use PINE/MUTT/MAIL.
 
 So they hardly count,... 99% chances (my bet anyways) are that hey wanted a
 GUI app for this.

In this case, out of the commonly used programs one could
be chosen, e. g. Thunderbird. But also lightweighter
applications such as Sylpheed or even KMail (when you're
already intending to use KDE) or Evolution (Gnome's
equivalent, if I remember correctly) is an option.

Using fetchmail to get the messages _independently_ from
any MUA gives you the chance to test various applications,
or even use them in parallel, employing one and the same
mail data. Using the system's mailer (e. g. via SMARTHOST)
makes you fully independent from the traditional POP/SMTP
accounts _in_ the MUA.


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Re: documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Jeays
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:43:01 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:07:12 +0200, Ross Cameron 
 ross.came...@linuxpro.co.za wrote:
  Considering the wording of the original posting I HIGHLY doubt the OP would
  be willing to use PINE/MUTT/MAIL.
  
  So they hardly count,... 99% chances (my bet anyways) are that hey wanted a
  GUI app for this.
 
 In this case, out of the commonly used programs one could
 be chosen, e. g. Thunderbird. But also lightweighter
 applications such as Sylpheed or even KMail (when you're
 already intending to use KDE) or Evolution (Gnome's
 equivalent, if I remember correctly) is an option.
 
 Using fetchmail to get the messages _independently_ from
 any MUA gives you the chance to test various applications,
 or even use them in parallel, employing one and the same
 mail data. Using the system's mailer (e. g. via SMARTHOST)
 makes you fully independent from the traditional POP/SMTP
 accounts _in_ the MUA.
 
 
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I agree about using Kmail with KDE; it is a well-designed mail program. 
However, using Kmail with Gnome was a horrible experience; it drags in and 
keeps starting up nepomuk and its friends, and chews up much of one's CPU 
capacity with apparently nothing to show for it. I switched to claws, which 
seems excellent.

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Re: documentation OF FreeBSD

2011-01-18 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:32:36 -0500, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote:
 I agree about using Kmail with KDE; it is a well-designed
 mail program. However, using Kmail with Gnome was a horrible
 experience; it drags in and keeps starting up nepomuk and its
 friends, and chews up much of one's CPU capacity with apparently
 nothing to show for it.

Fully agree. In most cases, using big desktop environment *A*
prohibits using programs of big desktop environment *B* and
vice versa. So if the OP wants to use Gnome in the first
place, he can go with Evolution or Sylpheed or Claws (as
they are Gtk applications). The same problem appears when
you're not using a desktop environment at all (instead
a powerful window manager only) - but if you do, you
traditionally will be very picky about the efficiency
of the applications you use, so Bloatware doesn't have
a chance. :-)

I'm sure there are other GUI MUAs out there that are not
so aggressive in inviting all their friends when starting
up, keeping the system occupied for nothing. :-)



 I switched to claws, which seems excellent.

I've been a Sylpheed user for many years and just a bit
disappointed by the fall of speed and accessibility with
the switch from Gtk1 to Gtk2.

I do NOT want to say that text mode MUAs can't be easy to
use, versatile, powerful and _FAST_. In fact, pine was one
of the first MUAs I've ever used, and there's nothing
about it's too complicated or other stupid nonsense.



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Re: documentation on FreeBSD kernel

2004-02-11 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Long/short syndrome

On Friday,  6 February 2004 at 10:13:46 +0100, Uwe Doering wrote:
 LACOSTE Thierry wrote:

 Are there books equivalent to e.g. Understanding the Linux kernel
 concerning FreeBSD ?  More precisely, books (or other sources)
 discussing thoroughly the implementation of the FreeBSD kernel on
 ia32 computers.

 I usually refer to

   The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System
   (Addison Weslay)

There will be a new version of this book out fairly soon (but don't
hold your breath).  It's by Kirk McKusick alone, and it will be titled
The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System.

Greg
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Re: documentation on FreeBSD kernel

2004-02-06 Thread Uwe Doering
LACOSTE Thierry wrote:
Are there books equivalent to e.g. Understanding the Linux kernel
concerning FreeBSD ?
More precisely, books (or other sources) discussing thoroughly the
implementation
of the FreeBSD kernel on ia32 computers.
I usually refer to

  The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System
  (Addison Weslay)
As with all these books about operating systems under development, they 
can never be completely up to date.  The OS is a moving target.  So the 
book I recommend above is a good start, but it certainly doesn't cover 
the latest design decisions of the various BSD development teams.

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documentation on FreeBSD kernel

2004-02-05 Thread LACOSTE Thierry
Are there books equivalent to e.g. Understanding the Linux kernel
concerning FreeBSD ?
More precisely, books (or other sources) discussing thoroughly the
implementation
of the FreeBSD kernel on ia32 computers.

Yours,
Thierry Lacoste.


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