Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
Agreed with t-u-t. I tried new pc-bsd7 on my old laptop (Celeron 1,6GHz/1.5G RAM/15GB dedicated on HDD/Intel GME video) and it runs rather good (with almost all desctop effects disabled). Not so blazing fast of course, but still enough for doing everyday stuff. -- Best regards, Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
On Saturday 11 October 2008 15:22:37 Michal Kulczewski wrote: I'm running 7.0 stable with ULE scheduler on i386 architecture (since it's Pentium M). I've tried to use kde4 out of the box (after compilation). Whole kde is running poorly. I have to wait seconds for any action to complete (right mouse button, moving windows, moving widgets, etc), so, as you can imagine, I'm not that patient to tweak any settings while using kde4. Now I see that many of you are using nvidia binary drivers, maybe this is the answer why my kde4 is running so slow. However, beryl is working quite fast for me. kde4 is using only 4% of processor, hal and dbus are enabled and running. Go into System Settings - Desktop and try toggling Enable desktop effects to see if it makes a difference. Also, go into Advanced Options (same screen) and try changing the Compositing type between OpenGL and XRender. I'm also using the radeon driver and it's nicely fast on my machine. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
On Saturday 11 October 2008 03:10:41 Wojciech Puchar wrote: well it's KDE. what do you expect ;) QT4 is quite a lot faster than QT3, and both have been very quick for several years now. Your argument is quite turn-of-the-millenium. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
One thing I am curious of is if you're running i386 FreeBSD, or another architecture (amd64, ia64, etc?) I'm running 7.0 stable with ULE scheduler on i386 architecture (since it's Pentium M). I've tried to use kde4 out of the box (after compilation). Whole kde is running poorly. I have to wait seconds for any action to complete (right mouse button, moving windows, moving widgets, etc), so, as you can imagine, I'm not that patient to tweak any settings while using kde4. Now I see that many of you are using nvidia binary drivers, maybe this is the answer why my kde4 is running so slow. if you have the free space you could try pcbsd7 to see what some extra work can do for it. someone recommended it earlier, rather than the straight upstream stock port (whatever that means) the nvidia driver did make much difference for me ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd7 kde4 performance
Hi, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7. I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to any suggestions. Cheers, Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
Hi Michael, Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've tried using both the nv driver as well as nvidia. My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512 dedicated memory and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0(Current) with all malloc debugging features disabled as well as kernel debugging options turned off. I've also tried switching back to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) to no avail. In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd share this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well. Regards, Tom --Original Message-- From: Michal Kulczewski Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd7 kde4 performance Sent: Oct 11, 2008 12:18 AM Hi, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7. I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to any suggestions. Cheers, Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've tried using both the nv driver as well as nvidia. My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512 dedicated memory and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0(Current) with all malloc debugging features disabled as well as kernel debugging options turned off. I've also tried switching back to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) to no avail. In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd share this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well. Regards, Tom --Original Message-- From: Michal Kulczewski Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd7 kde4 performance Sent: Oct 11, 2008 12:18 AM Hi, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7. I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to any suggestions. Cheers, Michal Here is some additional info, I too am doing v3. http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
Brian wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've tried using both the nv driver as well as nvidia. My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512 dedicated memory and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0(Current) with all malloc debugging features disabled as well as kernel debugging options turned off. I've also tried switching back to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) to no avail. In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd share this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well. Regards, Tom --Original Message-- From: Michal Kulczewski Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd7 kde4 performance Sent: Oct 11, 2008 12:18 AM Hi, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7. I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to any suggestions. Cheers, Michal Here is some additional info, I too am doing v3. http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php well, there is no much information available though. IMHO it's a pity that once fancy gui is available, freebsd users can not make use of it. I have to switch to gnome (somehow I don't like kde3). Cheers, Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
well it's KDE. what do you expect ;) On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Michal Kulczewski wrote: Hi, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7. I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to any suggestions. Cheers, Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:18:10 +0200 Michal Kulczewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7. I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to any suggestions. Have you tried turning-off all the effects. Personally I prefer KDE3, I don't think KDE4 is ready for serious use. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Michal Kulczewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've tried using both the nv driver as well as nvidia. My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512 dedicated memory and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0(Current) with all malloc debugging features disabled as well as kernel debugging options turned off. I've also tried switching back to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) to no avail. In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd share this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well. Regards, Tom well, there is no much information available though. IMHO it's a pity that once fancy gui is available, freebsd users can not make use of it. I have to switch to gnome (somehow I don't like kde3). Cheers, Michal Michal, can you describe in more detail just what is performing poorly? Things like what effects, what actions you're taking, what your settings are that effect those actions, etc? I'm running KDE4.1.1 from ports on 7-STABLE and have no performance problems at all with an AthlonX2, 2gigs of memory, and a GeForce6200 card using nvidia binary drivers. One thing I have come up against was the nvidia black windows bug with OpenGL effects turned on, but turning them off doesn't signifigantly hinder my enjoyment of KDE4, or make it too much less sexy to be honest. The performance was also fine even with them turned on; it simply caused that bug to occur which made it less usable. Generally speaking, I've found GNOME to run with more performance issues despite less bells and whistles than KDE every time on any system where I've tried it. If you provide some more information, maybe I can direct you to some setting tweaks, etc, but as I said it's working just lovely for me (and this is with a ton of apps open, by the way - several seamonkey windows, a bunch of kpdf, eclipse, many many konsole tabs, xmms, ktorrent, and more. One thing I am curious of is if you're running i386 FreeBSD, or another architecture (amd64, ia64, etc?) Take care. - mdh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Michal Kulczewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7. I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to any suggestions. I've had good experience with the latest KDE4 ports using 7-STABLE and the ULE scheduler on i386 even with desktop effects enabled. Hardware is a dual-core Opteron 2.5GHz with 2GB mem and a NVidia 6800GS video card (with NVidia binary drivers). Using only a couple of performance hints found on the mailing lists: QT/glib issue - http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2008-August/003612.html Konqueror tweak - http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2008-September/003893.html NVidia driver settings (not applicable if you're using ATI hardware, obviously) - http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088 Of the three things listed above, the glib and NVidia settings resulted in very noticeable performance improvements for me. Also, remember that hal and dbus need to be enabled and running. Hope that helps, Matt Cheers, Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd7 kde4 performance
mdh wrote: Michal, can you describe in more detail just what is performing poorly? Things like what effects, what actions you're taking, what your settings are that effect those actions, etc? I'm running KDE4.1.1 from ports on 7-STABLE and have no performance problems at all with an AthlonX2, 2gigs of memory, and a GeForce6200 card using nvidia binary drivers. One thing I have come up against was the nvidia black windows bug with OpenGL effects turned on, but turning them off doesn't signifigantly hinder my enjoyment of KDE4, or make it too much less sexy to be honest. The performance was also fine even with them turned on; it simply caused that bug to occur which made it less usable. Generally speaking, I've found GNOME to run with more performance issues despite less bells and whistles than KDE every time on any system where I've tried it. If you provide some more information, maybe I can direct you to some setting tweaks, etc, but as I said it's working just lovely for me (and this is with a ton of apps open, by the way - several seamonkey windows, a bunch of kpdf, eclipse, many many konsole tabs, xmms, ktorrent, and more. One thing I am curious of is if you're running i386 FreeBSD, or another architecture (amd64, ia64, etc?) I'm running 7.0 stable with ULE scheduler on i386 architecture (since it's Pentium M). I've tried to use kde4 out of the box (after compilation). Whole kde is running poorly. I have to wait seconds for any action to complete (right mouse button, moving windows, moving widgets, etc), so, as you can imagine, I'm not that patient to tweak any settings while using kde4. Now I see that many of you are using nvidia binary drivers, maybe this is the answer why my kde4 is running so slow. However, beryl is working quite fast for me. kde4 is using only 4% of processor, hal and dbus are enabled and running. -- Michal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
