Re: host -6 failure

2008-11-10 Thread mdh
--- On Sun, 11/9/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: host -6 failure
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:34 PM
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:13 AM, mdh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: host -6 failure
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:10 PM
  On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mdh
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   From: David Horn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: host -6 failure
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
   On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy folks,
I'm having a little trouble
 understanding
  a
   problem that the `host` command in
 RELENG_7_0
  (very recent)
   is having.
   The '-6' on the command line for
 host(1)
  forces an
   IPv6 only
   connection to your nameserver, not
 necessarily a
    query for the
   hostname in question.  In this case, your
  nameservers
   listed in the
   warnings are IPv4 nameservers that
 host(1) is
  attempting to
   connect to
   using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which
 by
  default is
   disabled in the
   kernel) In other words, don't use
 host -6 for
  this
   scenario.
  
   Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver
 in my
  resolv.conf is ::1 - so shouldn't it work with
 that?
  It's clearly trying to contact the first and
 third
  nameservers listed.  If the behavior I'm
 experiencing is
  the proper behavior, then let me pose this
 question: when
  would anyone conceivably want to use the -6
 option, and why
  does it exist?  My intent was to force a query to
 hit the
  nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.
   
domain  mydomain
search  mydomain
nameserver  127.0.0.1
nameserver  ::1
nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8
   
The DNS server running on localhost
 is
  authoritative
   for mydomain.  I can ping it via
 localhost using
  both v4 and
   v6, and I can also ping the external v4
 and v6
  addresses
   just fine remotely.
   
As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but
 this
  behavior
   seems to be counterintuitive.  Am I just
 doing it
  wrong?
   
  
   For diagnosing your own nameservers, you
 are
  better off
   using the
   dig(1) utility.
  
   Example:
  
dig ipv6.google.com  @::1
  
   This causes a dns query for an IPv6
 address (aka
    query) for the
   hostname of ipv6.google.com
 using the
   nameserver on the IPv6
   localhost loopback address (::1), and
 will give a
  very nice
   verbose
   output.  man dig for more details.
  
   That is more useful, but still doesn't
 stifle my
  desire to stomp a potential bug in the base
 system.
 
  Right after sending, I realized that I did not
 tell you all
  of the answer
 
  host(1) will successfully query ::1 when named is
 setup to
  listen on
  ::1 in named.conf, and ::1 is listed in
 /etc/resolv.conf (I
  just ran a
  test on my box to be sure that it works this way
 with the
  -6 switch)
 
  Example line from /etc/namedb/named.conf:
 
  listen-on-v6{ ::1; any; };
 
  And of course you need to restart named after the
 config
  change(
  /etc/rc.d/named restart)
 
  To make sure that it is listening on the IPv6
 loopback
  address:
 
  netstat -anW -f inet6
 
  I do not remember the minimum version of bind (aka
 named)
  required for
  IPv6 off the top of my head, but I am running
 9.4.2-P2 on
  my IPv6
  machine.
 
  All of the conditions for success are true, however it
 fails.  My DNS server software is responsing on ::1 port 53
 (tcp and udp), and ::1 is the second nameserver listed in
 resolv.conf.  Still, host -6 fails as previously stated... 
 According to what you've said so far, this leads me to
 believe that it ought to work as expected, and not error out
 in the way I'm seeing.
 
  Am I missing something here?  Is my lack of general
 IPv6 knowledge causing me to blindly assume something
 incorrectly?
 
 If all of the conditions for success were true, you would
 *not* be
 having a problem.  You are likely missing something simple.
 I suggest that you read about about general IPv6 network
 troubleshooting, and bind.  The handbook has some good
 information
 here:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-dns.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/ipv6.html
 
 You have yet to provide any new diagnostic output.  What
 was the result of:
 
  netstat -anW -f inet6

Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign Address(state)
tcp6   0  0  *.53  *.*  
 LISTEN
tcp6   0  0  *.22

Re: host -6 failure

2008-11-10 Thread David Horn
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, mdh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: host -6 failure
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:34 PM
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:13 AM, mdh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: host -6 failure
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:10 PM
  On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mdh
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   From: David Horn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: host -6 failure
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
   On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy folks,
I'm having a little trouble
 understanding
  a
   problem that the `host` command in
 RELENG_7_0
  (very recent)
   is having.
   The '-6' on the command line for
 host(1)
  forces an
   IPv6 only
   connection to your nameserver, not
 necessarily a
    query for the
   hostname in question.  In this case, your
  nameservers
   listed in the
   warnings are IPv4 nameservers that
 host(1) is
  attempting to
   connect to
   using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which
 by
  default is
   disabled in the
   kernel) In other words, don't use
 host -6 for
  this
   scenario.
  
   Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver
 in my
  resolv.conf is ::1 - so shouldn't it work with
 that?
  It's clearly trying to contact the first and
 third
  nameservers listed.  If the behavior I'm
 experiencing is
  the proper behavior, then let me pose this
 question: when
  would anyone conceivably want to use the -6
 option, and why
  does it exist?  My intent was to force a query to
 hit the
  nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.
   
domain  mydomain
search  mydomain
nameserver  127.0.0.1
nameserver  ::1
nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8
   
The DNS server running on localhost
 is
  authoritative
   for mydomain.  I can ping it via
 localhost using
  both v4 and
   v6, and I can also ping the external v4
 and v6
  addresses
   just fine remotely.
   
As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but
 this
  behavior
   seems to be counterintuitive.  Am I just
 doing it
  wrong?
   
  
   For diagnosing your own nameservers, you
 are
  better off
   using the
   dig(1) utility.
  
   Example:
  
dig ipv6.google.com  @::1
  
   This causes a dns query for an IPv6
 address (aka
    query) for the
   hostname of ipv6.google.com
 using the
   nameserver on the IPv6
   localhost loopback address (::1), and
 will give a
  very nice
   verbose
   output.  man dig for more details.
  
   That is more useful, but still doesn't
 stifle my
  desire to stomp a potential bug in the base
 system.
 
  Right after sending, I realized that I did not
 tell you all
  of the answer
 
  host(1) will successfully query ::1 when named is
 setup to
  listen on
  ::1 in named.conf, and ::1 is listed in
 /etc/resolv.conf (I
  just ran a
  test on my box to be sure that it works this way
 with the
  -6 switch)
 
  Example line from /etc/namedb/named.conf:
 
  listen-on-v6{ ::1; any; };
 
  And of course you need to restart named after the
 config
  change(
  /etc/rc.d/named restart)
 
  To make sure that it is listening on the IPv6
 loopback
  address:
 
  netstat -anW -f inet6
 
  I do not remember the minimum version of bind (aka
 named)
  required for
  IPv6 off the top of my head, but I am running
 9.4.2-P2 on
  my IPv6
  machine.
 
  All of the conditions for success are true, however it
 fails.  My DNS server software is responsing on ::1 port 53
 (tcp and udp), and ::1 is the second nameserver listed in
 resolv.conf.  Still, host -6 fails as previously stated...
 According to what you've said so far, this leads me to
 believe that it ought to work as expected, and not error out
 in the way I'm seeing.
 
  Am I missing something here?  Is my lack of general
 IPv6 knowledge causing me to blindly assume something
 incorrectly?

 If all of the conditions for success were true, you would
 *not* be
 having a problem.  You are likely missing something simple.
 I suggest that you read about about general IPv6 network
 troubleshooting, and bind.  The handbook has some good
 information
 here:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-dns.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/ipv6.html

 You have yet to provide any new diagnostic output.  What
 was the result of:

  netstat -anW -f inet6

 Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign Address(state)
 tcp6   0  0  *.53

Re: host -6 failure

2008-11-09 Thread mdh
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: host -6 failure
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:10 PM
 On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mdh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: host -6 failure
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
  On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Howdy folks,
   I'm having a little trouble understanding
 a
  problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0
 (very recent)
  is having.  
  The '-6' on the command line for host(1)
 forces an
  IPv6 only
  connection to your nameserver, not necessarily a
   query for the
  hostname in question.  In this case, your
 nameservers
  listed in the
  warnings are IPv4 nameservers that host(1) is
 attempting to
  connect to
  using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which by
 default is
  disabled in the
  kernel) In other words, don't use host -6 for
 this
  scenario.
 
  Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver in my
 resolv.conf is ::1 - so shouldn't it work with that? 
 It's clearly trying to contact the first and third
 nameservers listed.  If the behavior I'm experiencing is
 the proper behavior, then let me pose this question: when
 would anyone conceivably want to use the -6 option, and why
 does it exist?  My intent was to force a query to hit the
 nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.
  
   domain  mydomain
   search  mydomain
   nameserver  127.0.0.1
   nameserver  ::1
   nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8
  
   The DNS server running on localhost is
 authoritative
  for mydomain.  I can ping it via localhost using
 both v4 and
  v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6
 addresses
  just fine remotely.
  
   As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this
 behavior
  seems to be counterintuitive.  Am I just doing it
 wrong?
  
 
  For diagnosing your own nameservers, you are
 better off
  using the
  dig(1) utility.
 
  Example:
 
   dig ipv6.google.com  @::1
 
  This causes a dns query for an IPv6 address (aka
   query) for the
  hostname of ipv6.google.com using the
  nameserver on the IPv6
  localhost loopback address (::1), and will give a
 very nice
  verbose
  output.  man dig for more details.
 
  That is more useful, but still doesn't stifle my
 desire to stomp a potential bug in the base system.
 
 Right after sending, I realized that I did not tell you all
 of the answer
 
 host(1) will successfully query ::1 when named is setup to
 listen on
 ::1 in named.conf, and ::1 is listed in /etc/resolv.conf (I
 just ran a
 test on my box to be sure that it works this way with the
 -6 switch)
 
 Example line from /etc/namedb/named.conf:
 
 listen-on-v6{ ::1; any; };
 
 And of course you need to restart named after the config
 change(
 /etc/rc.d/named restart)
 
 To make sure that it is listening on the IPv6 loopback
 address:
 
 netstat -anW -f inet6
 
 I do not remember the minimum version of bind (aka named)
 required for
 IPv6 off the top of my head, but I am running 9.4.2-P2 on
 my IPv6
 machine.

All of the conditions for success are true, however it fails.  My DNS server 
software is responsing on ::1 port 53 (tcp and udp), and ::1 is the second 
nameserver listed in resolv.conf.  Still, host -6 fails as previously stated... 
 According to what you've said so far, this leads me to believe that it ought 
to work as expected, and not error out in the way I'm seeing.  

Am I missing something here?  Is my lack of general IPv6 knowledge causing me 
to blindly assume something incorrectly?  

Thanks, Matt



  
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Re: host -6 failure

2008-11-09 Thread David Horn
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:13 AM, mdh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: host -6 failure
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:10 PM
 On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mdh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: host -6 failure
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
  On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Howdy folks,
   I'm having a little trouble understanding
 a
  problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0
 (very recent)
  is having.
  The '-6' on the command line for host(1)
 forces an
  IPv6 only
  connection to your nameserver, not necessarily a
   query for the
  hostname in question.  In this case, your
 nameservers
  listed in the
  warnings are IPv4 nameservers that host(1) is
 attempting to
  connect to
  using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which by
 default is
  disabled in the
  kernel) In other words, don't use host -6 for
 this
  scenario.
 
  Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver in my
 resolv.conf is ::1 - so shouldn't it work with that?
 It's clearly trying to contact the first and third
 nameservers listed.  If the behavior I'm experiencing is
 the proper behavior, then let me pose this question: when
 would anyone conceivably want to use the -6 option, and why
 does it exist?  My intent was to force a query to hit the
 nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.
  
   domain  mydomain
   search  mydomain
   nameserver  127.0.0.1
   nameserver  ::1
   nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8
  
   The DNS server running on localhost is
 authoritative
  for mydomain.  I can ping it via localhost using
 both v4 and
  v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6
 addresses
  just fine remotely.
  
   As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this
 behavior
  seems to be counterintuitive.  Am I just doing it
 wrong?
  
 
  For diagnosing your own nameservers, you are
 better off
  using the
  dig(1) utility.
 
  Example:
 
   dig ipv6.google.com  @::1
 
  This causes a dns query for an IPv6 address (aka
   query) for the
  hostname of ipv6.google.com using the
  nameserver on the IPv6
  localhost loopback address (::1), and will give a
 very nice
  verbose
  output.  man dig for more details.
 
  That is more useful, but still doesn't stifle my
 desire to stomp a potential bug in the base system.

 Right after sending, I realized that I did not tell you all
 of the answer

 host(1) will successfully query ::1 when named is setup to
 listen on
 ::1 in named.conf, and ::1 is listed in /etc/resolv.conf (I
 just ran a
 test on my box to be sure that it works this way with the
 -6 switch)

 Example line from /etc/namedb/named.conf:

 listen-on-v6{ ::1; any; };

 And of course you need to restart named after the config
 change(
 /etc/rc.d/named restart)

 To make sure that it is listening on the IPv6 loopback
 address:

 netstat -anW -f inet6

 I do not remember the minimum version of bind (aka named)
 required for
 IPv6 off the top of my head, but I am running 9.4.2-P2 on
 my IPv6
 machine.

 All of the conditions for success are true, however it fails.  My DNS server 
 software is responsing on ::1 port 53 (tcp and udp), and ::1 is the second 
 nameserver listed in resolv.conf.  Still, host -6 fails as previously 
 stated...  According to what you've said so far, this leads me to believe 
 that it ought to work as expected, and not error out in the way I'm seeing.

 Am I missing something here?  Is my lack of general IPv6 knowledge causing me 
 to blindly assume something incorrectly?

If all of the conditions for success were true, you would *not* be
having a problem.  You are likely missing something simple.
I suggest that you read about about general IPv6 network
troubleshooting, and bind.  The handbook has some good information
here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-dns.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/ipv6.html

You have yet to provide any new diagnostic output.  What was the result of:

 netstat -anW -f inet6
 dig ipv6.google.com  @::1
 named -version

Do not get hung up on the output of host(1) without trying to diagnose
the root problem (your nameserver working properly on ipv6).  Once you
fix the root problem, the other problems will go away.

If in doubt, run a tcpdump or wireshark trace, and make sure that your
firewall is not getting in the way.

-_Dave

 Thanks, Matt





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Re: host -6 failure

2008-11-08 Thread David Horn
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mdh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: host -6 failure
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
 On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Howdy folks,
  I'm having a little trouble understanding a
 problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0 (very recent)
 is having.  This is by and large my first time working with
 IPv6, which I've been meaning to learn for some time.
 First off, I've got my zone file configured to return a
  record for x1.mydomain and named isn't complaining.
  However, when I run `host -6 x1.mydomain`, host returns the
 following output:
 
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [/etc/namedb]: host -6 x1.mydomain
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

 The '-6' on the command line for host(1) forces an
 IPv6 only
 connection to your nameserver, not necessarily a
  query for the
 hostname in question.  In this case, your nameservers
 listed in the
 warnings are IPv4 nameservers that host(1) is attempting to
 connect to
 using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which by default is
 disabled in the
 kernel) In other words, don't use host -6 for this
 scenario.

 Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver in my resolv.conf is ::1 - so 
 shouldn't it work with that?  It's clearly trying to contact the first and 
 third nameservers listed.  If the behavior I'm experiencing is the proper 
 behavior, then let me pose this question: when would anyone conceivably want 
 to use the -6 option, and why does it exist?  My intent was to force a query 
 to hit the nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.


 Most recent versions of the host(1) command will do both
 A (IPv4
 host record), and  (IPv6 host record)
 lookups for you
 automatically.  For example:

  host www.kame.net
 www.kame.net has address 203.178.141.194
 www.kame.net has IPv6 address
 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085

 
  IP.IP.IP.8 is my ISP's DNS server, and is a third
 option just in case the localhost DNS server crashes or goes
 batty while I'm out drinking or somesuch.  Here's my
 resolv.conf, which shows ::1 listed as the second nameserver
 entry - however, it seems host -6 never even tries it.
 
  domain  mydomain
  search  mydomain
  nameserver  127.0.0.1
  nameserver  ::1
  nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8
 
  The DNS server running on localhost is authoritative
 for mydomain.  I can ping it via localhost using both v4 and
 v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6 addresses
 just fine remotely.
 
  As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this behavior
 seems to be counterintuitive.  Am I just doing it wrong?
 

 For diagnosing your own nameservers, you are better off
 using the
 dig(1) utility.

 Example:

  dig ipv6.google.com  @::1

 This causes a dns query for an IPv6 address (aka
  query) for the
 hostname of ipv6.google.com using the
 nameserver on the IPv6
 localhost loopback address (::1), and will give a very nice
 verbose
 output.  man dig for more details.

 That is more useful, but still doesn't stifle my desire to stomp a potential 
 bug in the base system.

Right after sending, I realized that I did not tell you all of the answer

host(1) will successfully query ::1 when named is setup to listen on
::1 in named.conf, and ::1 is listed in /etc/resolv.conf (I just ran a
test on my box to be sure that it works this way with the -6 switch)

Example line from /etc/namedb/named.conf:

listen-on-v6{ ::1; any; };

And of course you need to restart named after the config change(
/etc/rc.d/named restart)

To make sure that it is listening on the IPv6 loopback address:

netstat -anW -f inet6

I do not remember the minimum version of bind (aka named) required for
IPv6 off the top of my head, but I am running 9.4.2-P2 on my IPv6
machine.

-_Dave



 Good Luck.

 BTW, if you have not already setup an IPv6 tunnel to the
 internet, I
 highly recommend SixXS's (www.sixxs.net) free tunnels
 (and the
 sixxs-aiccu port), or you can look at Hurricane Electric
 (www.he.net),
 and some other tunnel brokers as well.

 Actually this system is located at HE.  :)

 Thanks,
 - mdh





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Re: host -6 failure

2008-11-08 Thread David Horn
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Howdy folks,
 I'm having a little trouble understanding a problem that the `host` command 
 in RELENG_7_0 (very recent) is having.  This is by and large my first time 
 working with IPv6, which I've been meaning to learn for some time.  First 
 off, I've got my zone file configured to return a  record for x1.mydomain 
 and named isn't complaining.  However, when I run `host -6 x1.mydomain`, host 
 returns the following output:

 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [/etc/namedb]: host -6 x1.mydomain
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
 internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
 internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
 internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
 internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
 ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

The '-6' on the command line for host(1) forces an IPv6 only
connection to your nameserver, not necessarily a  query for the
hostname in question.  In this case, your nameservers listed in the
warnings are IPv4 nameservers that host(1) is attempting to connect to
using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which by default is disabled in the
kernel) In other words, don't use host -6 for this scenario.

Most recent versions of the host(1) command will do both A (IPv4
host record), and  (IPv6 host record) lookups for you
automatically.  For example:

 host www.kame.net
www.kame.net has address 203.178.141.194
www.kame.net has IPv6 address 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085


 IP.IP.IP.8 is my ISP's DNS server, and is a third option just in case the 
 localhost DNS server crashes or goes batty while I'm out drinking or 
 somesuch.  Here's my resolv.conf, which shows ::1 listed as the second 
 nameserver entry - however, it seems host -6 never even tries it.

 domain  mydomain
 search  mydomain
 nameserver  127.0.0.1
 nameserver  ::1
 nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8

 The DNS server running on localhost is authoritative for mydomain.  I can 
 ping it via localhost using both v4 and v6, and I can also ping the external 
 v4 and v6 addresses just fine remotely.

 As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this behavior seems to be counterintuitive.  
 Am I just doing it wrong?


For diagnosing your own nameservers, you are better off using the
dig(1) utility.

Example:

 dig ipv6.google.com  @::1

This causes a dns query for an IPv6 address (aka  query) for the
hostname of ipv6.google.com using the nameserver on the IPv6
localhost loopback address (::1), and will give a very nice verbose
output.  man dig for more details.

Good Luck.

BTW, if you have not already setup an IPv6 tunnel to the internet, I
highly recommend SixXS's (www.sixxs.net) free tunnels (and the
sixxs-aiccu port), or you can look at Hurricane Electric (www.he.net),
and some other tunnel brokers as well.

-_Dave

 Thanks, Matt




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Re: host -6 failure

2008-11-08 Thread mdh
--- On Sat, 11/8/08, David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: host -6 failure
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 7:25 PM
 On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, mdh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Howdy folks,
  I'm having a little trouble understanding a
 problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0 (very recent)
 is having.  This is by and large my first time working with
 IPv6, which I've been meaning to learn for some time. 
 First off, I've got my zone file configured to return a
  record for x1.mydomain and named isn't complaining.
  However, when I run `host -6 x1.mydomain`, host returns the
 following output:
 
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [/etc/namedb]: host -6 x1.mydomain
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
 
 /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179:
 internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
 
 The '-6' on the command line for host(1) forces an
 IPv6 only
 connection to your nameserver, not necessarily a
  query for the
 hostname in question.  In this case, your nameservers
 listed in the
 warnings are IPv4 nameservers that host(1) is attempting to
 connect to
 using an ipv4 mapped ipv6 address (which by default is
 disabled in the
 kernel) In other words, don't use host -6 for this
 scenario.

Yet as I pointed out, the second nameserver in my resolv.conf is ::1 - so 
shouldn't it work with that?  It's clearly trying to contact the first and 
third nameservers listed.  If the behavior I'm experiencing is the proper 
behavior, then let me pose this question: when would anyone conceivably want to 
use the -6 option, and why does it exist?  My intent was to force a query to 
hit the nameserver on ::1 rather than 127.0.0.1.  

 
 Most recent versions of the host(1) command will do both
 A (IPv4
 host record), and  (IPv6 host record)
 lookups for you
 automatically.  For example:
 
  host www.kame.net
 www.kame.net has address 203.178.141.194
 www.kame.net has IPv6 address
 2001:200:0:8002:203:47ff:fea5:3085
 
 
  IP.IP.IP.8 is my ISP's DNS server, and is a third
 option just in case the localhost DNS server crashes or goes
 batty while I'm out drinking or somesuch.  Here's my
 resolv.conf, which shows ::1 listed as the second nameserver
 entry - however, it seems host -6 never even tries it.
 
  domain  mydomain
  search  mydomain
  nameserver  127.0.0.1
  nameserver  ::1
  nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8
 
  The DNS server running on localhost is authoritative
 for mydomain.  I can ping it via localhost using both v4 and
 v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6 addresses
 just fine remotely.
 
  As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this behavior
 seems to be counterintuitive.  Am I just doing it wrong?
 
 
 For diagnosing your own nameservers, you are better off
 using the
 dig(1) utility.
 
 Example:
 
  dig ipv6.google.com  @::1
 
 This causes a dns query for an IPv6 address (aka
  query) for the
 hostname of ipv6.google.com using the
 nameserver on the IPv6
 localhost loopback address (::1), and will give a very nice
 verbose
 output.  man dig for more details.

That is more useful, but still doesn't stifle my desire to stomp a potential 
bug in the base system.  

 
 Good Luck.
 
 BTW, if you have not already setup an IPv6 tunnel to the
 internet, I
 highly recommend SixXS's (www.sixxs.net) free tunnels
 (and the
 sixxs-aiccu port), or you can look at Hurricane Electric
 (www.he.net),
 and some other tunnel brokers as well.

Actually this system is located at HE.  :)

Thanks,
- mdh



  
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host -6 failure

2008-11-07 Thread mdh
Howdy folks,
I'm having a little trouble understanding a problem that the `host` command in 
RELENG_7_0 (very recent) is having.  This is by and large my first time working 
with IPv6, which I've been meaning to learn for some time.  First off, I've got 
my zone file configured to return a  record for x1.mydomain and named isn't 
complaining.  However, when I run `host -6 x1.mydomain`, host returns the 
following output:

([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [/etc/namedb]: host -6 x1.mydomain
/usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
/usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
/usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
internal_send: :::127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument
/usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: 
internal_send: :::IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

IP.IP.IP.8 is my ISP's DNS server, and is a third option just in case the 
localhost DNS server crashes or goes batty while I'm out drinking or somesuch.  
Here's my resolv.conf, which shows ::1 listed as the second nameserver entry - 
however, it seems host -6 never even tries it.  

domain  mydomain
search  mydomain
nameserver  127.0.0.1
nameserver  ::1
nameserver  IP.IP.IP.8

The DNS server running on localhost is authoritative for mydomain.  I can ping 
it via localhost using both v4 and v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and 
v6 addresses just fine remotely.  

As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this behavior seems to be counterintuitive.  Am 
I just doing it wrong?  

Thanks, Matt



  
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