Re: logging during loader

2013-06-26 Thread Robert Huff

Polytropon writes:

  During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
   that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
   modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
  It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
   logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
   ^S/^Q work on the terminal.
  Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?
  
  Being on the 1st virtual terminal in text mode (ttyv0) which
  also acts as the console device, press the Scroll Lock
  key and use the vertical arrow keys and page scrolling keys
  to get to the top of the log.

This does not work for me.  Specifically, pushing [Scroll Lock]
causes the appropriate light to go on, but output continues to flow.



Robert Huff

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Re: logging during loader

2013-06-26 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:40:07 -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
 
 Polytropon writes:
 
 During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
 It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
^S/^Q work on the terminal.
 Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?
   
   Being on the 1st virtual terminal in text mode (ttyv0) which
   also acts as the console device, press the Scroll Lock
   key and use the vertical arrow keys and page scrolling keys
   to get to the top of the log.
 
   This does not work for me.  Specifically, pushing [Scroll Lock]
 causes the appropriate light to go on, but output continues to flow.

This doesn't look normal. Maybe kernel messages have precedence
and can appear while regular output is halted? The cursor block
should disappear (and the LED should light up). When the console
TTY (ttyv0) does not show any more action, is scrolling back
possible then?

I've tried it on my home 8.2 system. Normal output is halted.
I seem to remember that kernel messages unlock Scroll Lock...



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logging during loader

2013-06-24 Thread Robert Huff

During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
^S/^Q work on the terminal.
Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?

Respectfully,


Robert Huff

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Re: logging during loader

2013-06-24 Thread Mike Jeays
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:23:10 -0400
Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:

 
   During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
 that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
 modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
   It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
 logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
 ^S/^Q work on the terminal.
   Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?
 
   Respectfully,
 
 
   Robert Huff
 
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I am sure there is a 'right' way to do it, but I had success reading a 
transitory
BIOS message by photographing the screen with a 2-second exposure, in a fairly 
dark
room. This will only work for white-on-black text, of course.
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Re: logging during loader

2013-06-24 Thread Arthur Chance

On 06/24/13 14:23, Robert Huff wrote:


During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
^S/^Q work on the terminal.
Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?


Does ScrollLock and repeated PageUp get you back far enough?


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Re: logging during loader

2013-06-24 Thread Mike.
On 6/24/2013 at 4:05 PM Arthur Chance wrote:

|On 06/24/13 14:23, Robert Huff wrote:
|
|  During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
| that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
| modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
|  It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
| logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
| ^S/^Q work on the terminal.
|  Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?
 =



This has worked well for me, logging the early boot process that
usually scrolls by on the screen. I use it on 8.3 and 9.1.

I was surprised that it managed to log console stuff that occurred
before syslogd was loaded...


from syslog.conf

# uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to 
#   /var/log/console.log
# touch /var/log/console.log and chmod it to mode 600 
#   before it will work
console.info/var/log/console.log


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Re: logging during loader

2013-06-24 Thread Bernt Hansson

On 2013-06-24 15:23, Robert Huff wrote:


During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
^S/^Q work on the terminal.
Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?


Have you checked dmsg?

Try start freebsd with verbose logging then check dmesg.
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Re: logging during loader

2013-06-24 Thread Robert Huff

Bernt Hansson writes:

  Try start freebsd with verbose logging then check dmesg.

Doesn't that only apply to stuff generated by the hardware
enumeration/drivar attach phase?



Robert Huff




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Re: logging during loader

2013-06-24 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:23:10 -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
 
   During the processing of loader.conf, something gets printed
 that suggests all is not right.  However, this is a sufficiently
 modern machine it goes by too fast to read exactly what.
   It is my understanding that file gets read before the system
 logging facilities are operational, and possibly before things like
 ^S/^Q work on the terminal.
   Is there a way to store the results of that phase of boot-up?

Being on the 1st virtual terminal in text mode (ttyv0) which
also acts as the console device, press the Scroll Lock
key and use the vertical arrow keys and page scrolling keys
to get to the top of the log. It should start with the last
BIOS POST messages (if any), and then continue with the
loader messages, the kernel messages, and the system startup
messages. You can copy them via mouse left/middle to another
tty with an editor for future use. This is what Scroll Lock
is inteded for. :-)

Example:


BIOS 637kB/2094976kB available memory

FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
(???@?..???, Sun Aug 21 03:33:08 CEST 2011)
Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
/boot/kernel/kernel text=0x600ebf data=0x68ab4+0x84a44 syms=[0x4+0x75f50+0x4+0xa
27db]
/boot/kernel/bktr.ko text=0xfe20 data=0xc08+0x10 syms=[0x4+0xd80+0x4+0xcd6]
loading required module 'bktr_mem'
/boot/kernel/bktr_mem.ko text=0x8f4 data=0xe0+0xec syms=[0x4+0x2a0+0x4+0x2b3]
/boot/kernel/drm.ko text=0x10e2c data=0x11cc+0x10 syms=[0x4+0x1c20+0x4+0x22b1]
/boot/modules/nvidia.ko text=0x71c060 data=0x1f7f9c+0x7900 syms=[0x4+0x82510+0x4
+0x59a76]
-
Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]...

And here the kernel messages start, and they will be logged in
/var/log/messages anyway.



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