Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:18:43 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: yes, the voices [from audio/festival] are pretty good; i use them to read boring stuff to me when i'm about brain-dead! but these voices just don't cut it given the kind of quasi-poetic stuff i have. Wouldn't it be easier to use a natural speaker then? I know there's no such person in the ports collection... :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:20:45 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: I've never done video editing on FreeBSD; but on a Mac, you can create a movie using slides and a sound file (wav, mp3, etc). You would need an application that could import images and sound, and let you sync the two by assigning the order and duration of each slide. It would then have to spit out a movie file, of course. Any video editing (on FreeBSD) knowledge out there? No knowledge, but idea: As you know, mencoder can do everything. So it should be possible to create something like a strain of image files (like animated GIF) and put it together with a sound file then. This could be done for smaller pieces first (one slide + text speech), and then the slides could be concatenated to create the whole video file. The file format should be a standardized and free format in first position, and for those who cannot (Windows) or are not allowed to (?) use them, formats like MPEG and AVI could be added. if mencoder can't do the thing with the images, maybe it's worth taking a look at ImageMagick and its convert command. Another option is a python script that uses vnc to create a shockwave flash file from your actions on your desktop: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/ The script is able to import a sound file that you record while you create the demo. Interesting idea, but I would suggest to avoid Flash whenever possible. But to continue this idea: If the output is a simple .flv file, it could be turned into something standardized using mencoder again. I've used youtube-dl and mencoder to do so - but only three times! I swear it's true! :-) (After Flash annoyed me so much on web pages, I decided to relapse my system into a Flash-free state. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:18:43 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: yes, the voices [from audio/festival] are pretty good; i use them to read boring stuff to me when i'm about brain-dead! but these voices just don't cut it given the kind of quasi-poetic stuff i have. Wouldn't it be easier to use a natural speaker then? I know there's no such person in the ports collection... :-) This is a very good point. (Especially since Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, voice of the computer in the original tv series of Star Trek, is no longer with us.) Writings of such a human nature deserve a real human's voice and interpretation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:47:04 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very good point. (Especially since Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, voice of the computer in the original tv series of Star Trek, is no longer with us.) You could employ the computer voice woman from The Andromeda Strain (the movie by Robert Wise). :-) Writings of such a human nature deserve a real human's voice and interpretation. You can do a lot with synthesized spoken language, but the human voice perception apparatus reacts to them differently than it does to a native (natural) voice, even if both say the same text. For example, the Die Bahn (our federal-wide railway company for transportation of persons) uses a synthetic voice on some stations. This voice is harder to understand when coming out of the PA loudspeakers than the previously used natural human voice was, allthough the human voice ocassionally spoke with some accent or dialect (Layptsh Houbtbarnhouf, alls nars hibbe! or Beet olls arsshtoygn, dees Tsoog is karpoot!) While the brain does automatically correct language properties such as a (strange) dialect or accent, it searches for similar patterns in the synthetic language (because it simply doesn't sound correct), but cannot find them. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
You can do a lot with synthesized spoken language, but the human voice perception apparatus reacts to them differently than it does to a native (natural) voice, even if both say the same text. until someone will make speech synthetizer good enough ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:08:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:18:43 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: yes, the voices [from audio/festival] are pretty good; i use them to read boring stuff to me when i'm about brain-dead! but these voices just don't cut it given the kind of quasi-poetic stuff i have. Wouldn't it be easier to use a natural speaker then? I know there's no such person in the ports collection... :-) One of my friends from my writing group would be perfect, but he won't do it. Not even for money! [?] Before I try to find a real-life-human, :), I'd like to first find some snapshots/photos. gary -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 07:47:04AM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:18:43 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: yes, the voices [from audio/festival] are pretty good; i use them to read boring stuff to me when i'm about brain-dead! but these voices just don't cut it given the kind of quasi-poetic stuff i have. Wouldn't it be easier to use a natural speaker then? I know there's no such person in the ports collection... :-) This is a very good point. (Especially since Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, voice of the computer in the original tv series of Star Trek, is no longer with us.) Writings of such a human nature deserve a real human's voice and interpretation. The one thing my friend said was: The first time I read this stuff it sounds fine and makes sense. Then I stop and re-read and I get lost. I'm glad I took Chuck Robey's advice and used a poetic notation rather than just plain prose. With poetry, you can use imagery and symbology, etc. You can get across more in poetry than prose, but it's a bear to learn to do well. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 06:08:36PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: You can do a lot with synthesized spoken language, but the human voice perception apparatus reacts to them differently than it does to a native (natural) voice, even if both say the same text. until someone will make speech synthetizer good enough ;) i spent several hours yesterday poking around at the natural-voice and the entirely synthetic methodology of spoken language. the first is tricky enough. the second method that emulates the vocal mechanics probably gets into complexity theory! so maybe in another 50-75 years... . gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:36:25 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: tHat said: how can I experiement with translating my html into slideshow format? If this is a case of RTFM, where is the FM page website that will get me going.? For a real slideshow in terms of projected presentation, maybe you want to check the foiltex package (port: textproc/foiltex) and create a PDF file with it, using LaTeX. The advantage is that it can be easily turned into plain text if needed (e. g. for speech synthesis). Along with xpdf (also from the ports), you can do: % xpdf -fullscreen presentation If you want the slides HTML based, an option would be to create a script that reads the big HTML source and splits it into small slides with less text, according to a template. But I think it's still neccessary to put hands on it to get things like document structure right. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:48:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:36:25 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: tHat said: how can I experiment with translating my html into slideshow format? If this is a case of RTFM, where is the FM page website that will get me going.? For a real slideshow in terms of projected presentation, maybe you want to check the foiltex package (port: textproc/foiltex) and create a PDF file with it, using LaTeX. The advantage is that it can be easily turned into plain text if needed (e. g. for speech synthesis). Along with xpdf (also from the ports), you can do: This ought to help if I ever find a free speech synthesizer. I found one yesterday that must be a real human voice; unfortunately, commercial. % xpdf -fullscreen presentation If you want the slides HTML based, an option would be to create a script that reads the big HTML source and splits it into small slides with less text, according to a template. But I think it's still neccessary to put hands on it to get things like document structure right. You're right, and thanks to you, Uli, and Andrew noted. Looks like the slideshow/ppt/impress method won't be the way to go. I've checked out the PresentationZen site and have a better idea how this kind of presentation works. I need some other means of reaching folks. gary -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Friday 24 April 2009, Gary Kline wrote: This ought to help if I ever find a free speech synthesizer. I found one yesterday that must be a real human voice; unfortunately, commercial. audio/festival in the ports is decent and has a few voices to choose from. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:48:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:36:25 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: tHat said: how can I experiment with translating my html into slideshow format? If this is a case of RTFM, where is the FM page website that will get me going.? For a real slideshow in terms of projected presentation, maybe you want to check the foiltex package (port: textproc/foiltex) and create a PDF file with it, using LaTeX. The advantage is that it can be easily turned into plain text if needed (e. g. for speech synthesis). Along with xpdf (also from the ports), you can do: This ought to help if I ever find a free speech synthesizer. I found one yesterday that must be a real human voice; unfortunately, commercial. % xpdf -fullscreen presentation If you want the slides HTML based, an option would be to create a script that reads the big HTML source and splits it into small slides with less text, according to a template. But I think it's still neccessary to put hands on it to get things like document structure right. You're right, and thanks to you, Uli, and Andrew noted. Looks like the slideshow/ppt/impress method won't be the way to go. I've checked out the PresentationZen site and have a better idea how this kind of presentation works. I need some other means of reaching folks. gary -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... I've never done video editing on FreeBSD; but on a Mac, you can create a movie using slides and a sound file (wav, mp3, etc). You would need an application that could import images and sound, and let you sync the two by assigning the order and duration of each slide. It would then have to spit out a movie file, of course. Any video editing (on FreeBSD) knowledge out there? Another option is a python script that uses vnc to create a shockwave flash file from your actions on your desktop: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/ The script is able to import a sound file that you record while you create the demo. Good luck, Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 04:38:06AM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: On Friday 24 April 2009, Gary Kline wrote: This ought to help if I ever find a free speech synthesizer. I found one yesterday that must be a real human voice; unfortunately, commercial. audio/festival in the ports is decent and has a few voices to choose from. JN yes, the voices are pretty good; i use them to read boring stuff to me when i'm about brain-dead! but these voices just don't cut it given the kind of quasi-poetic stuff i have. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 04:20:45PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:48:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:36:25 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org [[[ ... ]]] I've never done video editing on FreeBSD; but on a Mac, you can create a movie using slides and a sound file (wav, mp3, etc). You would need an application that could import images and sound, and let you sync the two by assigning the order and duration of each slide. It would then have to spit out a movie file, of course. Any video editing (on FreeBSD) knowledge out there? Another option is a python script that uses vnc to create a shockwave flash file from your actions on your desktop: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/ The script is able to import a sound file that you record while you create the demo. as i get back from a fifteen minute run out the back, screaming loudly if anybody would care to volunteer to help me with this, it would transcend mere Outstanding. facts are that i'm still polishing the last 7 or 8 of my mumblings/jottings. been at this since the 1980's, maybe a bit before. so way too long to throw in the towel now. a year, two ago a volunteer in my library group gathered up the mess of 70+ jottings and created 15 [?] subsections. meanwhile, i've found and gotten permission to use one or two photographs. anybody brave enough to browse my existentialist mumblings to see what kind of photo might fit with what?? gary Good luck, Andrew -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 05:38:25PM +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: In any case, there are two questions for this list. The first, obviously, is subjective and is: would having my stuff in slideshow fmt gain me a wider readership? Yes. Any sort of attractive presentation will draw more attention to your content than ordinary text without any pictures or animations. The second is: anybody out there willing to clue me in on this stuff? I have always made very good experiences with technical questions of all kind on this list. Regarding your contents or lay-out and design there probably are better forums. Hm, okay. WEll, there's not really any layout or design. I may want to change the one .jpg file that i created. Maybe givve the pages a different background or font, but that's the limitation of my ``artistic'' abilities. Sound, music/page might be a help; I'll need volunteer help with this, and the -questions list isn't the place to post for that:) tHat said: how can I experiement with translating my html into slideshow format? If this is a case of RTFM, where is the FM page website that will get me going.? thanks much, gary Greetings, Uli. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:47:44AM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa ulr...@pukruppa.netwrote: Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: In any case, there are two questions for this list. The first, obviously, is subjective and is: would having my stuff in slideshow fmt gain me a wider readership? Yes. Any sort of attractive presentation will draw more attention to your content than ordinary text without any pictures or animations. The second is: anybody out there willing to clue me in on this stuff? I have always made very good experiences with technical questions of all kind on this list. Regarding your contents or lay-out and design there probably are better forums. Greetings, Uli. gary It is very difficult to convey concepts or ideas with any complexity with slides alone. Usually, slides should accompany and complement a presentation. I understand that much, and I have at least one file of preamble chatter per section. Some sections have 4 or 5 preamble mumblings that offer the user///reader a clue re my thinking. One thing I never forgot was that we all take away a slightly different set of concepts from what we read or see on the tube. Even from a painting or photo. My chatter/mumblings are only my ideas, my guidelines. I was surprised when my daughter drew something completely different from one thing I wrote. If the document must stand alone (no speech, etc), and the content is of any complexity, I would advise not using slides. For anyone using slides, I recommend the following book by Garr Reynolds: Presentation Zen: Simple Ideas on Presentation Design and Delivery Thanks for the pointer. I googled Reynolds' website and see that his book is available thru amazon.com.this opens a whole new field of opportunity... . gary Best regards, Andrew -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2009, 14:36 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 05:38:25PM +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: In any case, there are two questions for this list. The first, obviously, is subjective and is: would having my stuff in slideshow fmt gain me a wider readership? Yes. Any sort of attractive presentation will draw more attention to your content than ordinary text without any pictures or animations. The second is: anybody out there willing to clue me in on this stuff? I have always made very good experiences with technical questions of all kind on this list. Regarding your contents or lay-out and design there probably are better forums. Hm, okay. WEll, there's not really any layout or design. I may want to change the one .jpg file that i created. Maybe givve the pages a different background or font, but that's the limitation of my ``artistic'' abilities. Sound, music/page might be a help; I'll need volunteer help with this, and the -questions list isn't the place to post for that:) Please do excuse my limited possibilites in the english language: But the question of design and medium is quite deeply connected with the kind of content you wish to communicate. For example: A slideshow format needs sort of a linear argumentation like this: (1)--(2)--(3)--(4)-- ... HTML permits multiple lines of argumentation and crossreferences like this _-(2a)--(3a)--(4a)-- ... / (1)---(2b)--(3b)--(4b)-- ... \ / ---(3c)-- A slideshow is a one-way communication from you to your readers, HTML as for example used in a wiki allows interaction with your readers (comments, own contributions,...) Thus it might not at all be possible to convert HTML to a slide show. You will have to decide which kind of medium fits your content best. tHat said: how can I experiement with translating my html into slideshow format? If this is a case of RTFM, where is the FM page website that will get me going.? When you have decided to use openoffice-impress you can find a first manual on http://documentation.openoffice.org/ Greetings Uli. thanks much, gary Greetings, Uli. gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2009, 14:36 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 05:38:25PM +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: In any case, there are two questions for this list. The first, obviously, is subjective and is: would having my stuff in slideshow fmt gain me a wider readership? Yes. Any sort of attractive presentation will draw more attention to your content than ordinary text without any pictures or animations. The second is: anybody out there willing to clue me in on this stuff? I have always made very good experiences with technical questions of all kind on this list. Regarding your contents or lay-out and design there probably are better forums. Hm, okay. WEll, there's not really any layout or design. I may want to change the one .jpg file that i created. Maybe givve the pages a different background or font, but that's the limitation of my ``artistic'' abilities. Sound, music/page might be a help; I'll need volunteer help with this, and the -questions list isn't the place to post for that:) tHat said: how can I experiement with translating my html into slideshow format? If this is a case of RTFM, where is the FM page website that will get me going.? thanks much, gary Greetings, Uli. gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
This is for anybody familiar with the powerpoint fmt docs/display, and the openoffice.org equivalent, Impress. I have several dozen of files in several directories; each file (php or html--or can be xlated to xml) had one or two jpeg graphics. What I would like to experiment with is to see if having my Jottings philosophical stuff in slideshow presentation. My personal philosophy grew out of a disagreement with the bureaucrats in my home state (Ohio) who asserted that my physical disabilities made it impossible for me to become a productive member of society. Similar bureaucrats in California just a few years later took a different slant, and over the years and with plenty of sweating over my engineering and comp-sci classwork---and obviously, when I started earning my salt---, I noted down a bunch of short pieces that evolved into my Jottings thoughts. I've tried my best to de-nerd and de-geek this stuff, so that it encourages anyone and everyone who feels beat-up on by just-plain-life. Since this stuff has gone global, I've had lots of positive feedback. At the same time, back-of-envelope math has convinced me that it wouldn't pay to publish this in ink+paper. So in addition to my jottings.thought.org website, have a push-button slideshow might encourage more people to give this a read ... or a listen. If I can find a volunteer to read the stuff. I've tried to get firefox3 to show the demo here, but I'm evidently too too far out of date. If there is a way of having OOo-3.01 use the writing portion and turn the files into Impress mode, that would be ideal. O/wise, it might turn into a sharp learning curve. In any case, there are two questions for this list. The first, obviously, is subjective and is: would having my stuff in slideshow fmt gain me a wider readership? The second is: anybody out there willing to clue me in on this stuff? gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: In any case, there are two questions for this list. The first, obviously, is subjective and is: would having my stuff in slideshow fmt gain me a wider readership? Yes. Any sort of attractive presentation will draw more attention to your content than ordinary text without any pictures or animations. The second is: anybody out there willing to clue me in on this stuff? I have always made very good experiences with technical questions of all kind on this list. Regarding your contents or lay-out and design there probably are better forums. Greetings, Uli. gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa ulr...@pukruppa.netwrote: Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline: In any case, there are two questions for this list. The first, obviously, is subjective and is: would having my stuff in slideshow fmt gain me a wider readership? Yes. Any sort of attractive presentation will draw more attention to your content than ordinary text without any pictures or animations. The second is: anybody out there willing to clue me in on this stuff? I have always made very good experiences with technical questions of all kind on this list. Regarding your contents or lay-out and design there probably are better forums. Greetings, Uli. gary It is very difficult to convey concepts or ideas with any complexity with slides alone. Usually, slides should accompany and complement a presentation. If the document must stand alone (no speech, etc), and the content is of any complexity, I would advise not using slides. For anyone using slides, I recommend the following book by Garr Reynolds: Presentation Zen: Simple Ideas on Presentation Design and Delivery Best regards, Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
