Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 01:50:43AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote:
 
 Gary Kline writes:
 
  the keybd isn't the problem.  it is in the box with a bunch of
  misc stuff i don't need.  problem is that on my KVM switch are
  only ps2 plugs.  on the back of the dell are USB jacks.  i
  need something to convert from the PS2 plug to fit into the
  USB   
 
   Have you actually tried this elsewhere and had it work?
 Because I'm certainly no expert on KVMs, but that sounds like a
 more likely to fail than succeed scenario.
   (I use a StarTech four port USB KVM, and would be interested in
 a good model that handles DVI/HDMI as opposed to 15 pin VGA video.)
 

indeed not; and that is why i asked here.   i DID find some
ps2 - usb ... somewhere.  google that and you see what i
did.  unless i was hallucinating!

gents, i am and have been years behind the bleeding-edge
stuff.  the intel duo stuff has been around awhile so while it
isn't that bloody, it is new to me. 

it may be my KVM Stuff or not.  that's the $64.0 question.

gary


   Respectfully,
 
 
   Robert Huff
 

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Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-08 Thread perryh
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 the keybd isn't the problem ...  problem is that on my KVM
 switch are only ps2 plugs.  on the back of the dell are USB
 jacks.  i need something to convert from the PS2 plug to
 fit into the USB   

Such things do exist:
http://www.amazon.com/Adesso-Adapter-connects-connectors-ADP-PU21/dp/B8ZPED
http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-USB-PS-2-Converter/dp/B0007T27HI
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-USB-Male-Female-Adapter/dp/B000658ETS
http://www.frys.com/product/3470803
http://www.frys.com/product/3866207
http://www.frys.com/product/4161343
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Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-08 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:40:41 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  it was .LT. sixty bux
   and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] 
 [...]
 [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 0.0001s:)
 to change ports.

What happended to the old fahioned way of having a simple
knob that you can turn to one of the 4 positions? Too
mechanically? Not modern enough? Not prone enough to
errors?

I sill have such a switch here, but I'm lacking the cables;
they are maybe triple as expensive as a new modern switch
including cables which requires a race across the keyboard
in order to switch the targets.

Man, I sound sooo ld... :-)

Back on topic: With the use of an USB-PS/2 adaptor, you
could be lucky; most USB keyboards function as intended in
such a setting, but I've already found that not all of them
do. Strangely, the older ones (such as IBM model M) do, but
I had a modern Dell keyboard that didn't work with a
converter as mentioned above, allthoug it should (and worked
correct plugged in directly, and other keyboards workeed
correct with the adaptor).

Strange stuff, produced by modern IT manufacturers...

You'll end up having to try it.



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Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 09:57:13PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:40:41 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   it was .LT. sixty bux
  and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] 
  [...]
  [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 
  0.0001s:)
  to change ports.
 
 What happended to the old fahioned way of having a simple
 knob that you can turn to one of the 4 positions? Too
 mechanically? Not modern enough? Not prone enough to
 errors?
 

hah.  i had no idea what i was ordering--well, other than a KVM
switch.  doubt if my college friend did either.  what i bought 
was around sixty bux; the model with buttons Plus cables was around
$150.  und, zo, i guess do you get what pay for.  except that::
there was nothing in the ad about having to hit ctrl-alt-shift so
precisely.  live 'n' learn, guys.  they are looking to gouge you 
out of every last penny every which way they can.

 I sill have such a switch here, but I'm lacking the cables;
 they are maybe triple as expensive as a new modern switch
 including cables which requires a race across the keyboard
 in order to switch the targets.


i was typing the three keys in about 1/15th sec. too fast.
about 1/5th sec is too slow.  i can't guess the rate, but it's hard
to get just-right!  (here is where i would pull out my hair and yell 
AARGH ... but i'm too fried:)


 
 Man, I sound sooo ld... :-)


 
 Back on topic: With the use of an USB-PS/2 adaptor, you
 could be lucky; most USB keyboards function as intended in
 such a setting, but I've already found that not all of them
 do. Strangely, the older ones (such as IBM model M) do, but
 I had a modern Dell keyboard that didn't work with a
 converter as mentioned above, allthoug it should (and worked
 correct plugged in directly, and other keyboards workeed
 correct with the adaptor).


i think you have it backwards, polyt.  the kvm switch has 
PS/2 plugs; the dell has [[i think female]] slots/jacks.
tomorrow [OR monday/ here:)], i'll dig out the keyboard and 
plug its usb connector.  see if the crapy/bleepy os boots.
LOL.  

 
 Strange stuff, produced by modern IT manufacturers...
 
 You'll end up having to try it.
 


i copy that, man.

gary

PS: One solid bit of good news is that Zeus is answering my 
prayers.  no power-outs here

 
 
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 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany
 Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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http://jottings.thought.org   http://transfinite.thought.org
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stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-07 Thread Gary Kline
hey guys,

my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks
ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out.  the one computer
buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port
iogear.  i did and he installed it.  it was .LT. sixty bux
and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*]  altho i did type
down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare
you.  nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something
i could more readily use.  --i'll post the entire story on my
freebsd pages in time.

my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here.  it is installed to as far
as i can install it.  trouble is that i see on the dell screen

Keyboard failure

and a message to press F2 to setup.  the kvm has the old ps2
plugs and no adaptors to USB.  i have the dell kybd here, come
to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down
and muck around and test.

what's your best guess, folks?  the computer parts stores
around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an
adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it.

any thoughts on this?  i think i would need at least 547 pain
meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might
drowse off

gary


[*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 0.0001s:)
to change ports.

-- 
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http://jottings.thought.org   http://transfinite.thought.org
The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php

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Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-07 Thread Al Plant

Gary Kline wrote:

hey guys,

my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks
ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out.  the one computer
buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port
iogear.  i did and he installed it.  it was .LT. sixty bux
and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*]  altho i did type
down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare
you.  nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something
i could more readily use.  --i'll post the entire story on my
freebsd pages in time.

my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here.  it is installed to as far
as i can install it.  trouble is that i see on the dell screen

Keyboard failure

and a message to press F2 to setup.  the kvm has the old ps2
plugs and no adaptors to USB.  i have the dell kybd here, come
to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down
and muck around and test.

what's your best guess, folks?  the computer parts stores
around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an
adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it.

any thoughts on this?  i think i would need at least 547 pain
meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might
drowse off

gary


[*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 0.0001s:)
to change ports.


Aloha Gary,

Radio Shack has a converter from PS2 to usb for stuff like that. I 
bought a kit of converters from Home Depot her in Honolulu for the same 
purpose.


The KVM switch I have in the server room is PS2 but has little switches 
on the front that change the mouse , monitor and keyboard with a light 
pressure. Even a pencil with an eraser on it could be used to change 
from one of any of eight ports.


Send me a picture of the setup you have and I'll see if I can figure out 
a way to work it for you.


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  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
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Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-07 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

hey guys,

my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks
ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out.  the one computer
buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port
iogear.  i did and he installed it.  it was .LT. sixty bux
and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*]  altho i did type
down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare
you.  nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something
i could more readily use.  --i'll post the entire story on my
freebsd pages in time.

my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here.  it is installed to as far
as i can install it.  trouble is that i see on the dell screen

Keyboard failure

and a message to press F2 to setup.  the kvm has the old ps2
plugs and no adaptors to USB.  i have the dell kybd here, come
to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down
and muck around and test.

what's your best guess, folks?  the computer parts stores
around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an
adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it.

any thoughts on this?  i think i would need at least 547 pain
meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might
drowse off

gary


 [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/-
 0.0001s:)
to change ports.


PS/2 keyboards are still plentiful and cheap...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201029

I've had varied luck with adapters and since they're about the same price
just as easy to keep a ps/2 around.

-- 
Adam Vande More
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Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 09:42:34PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
 hey guys,
 
 my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks
 ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out.  the one computer
 buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port
 iogear.  i did and he installed it.  it was .LT. sixty bux
 and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*]  altho i did type
 down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare
 you.  nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something
 i could more readily use.  --i'll post the entire story on my
 freebsd pages in time.
 
 my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here.  it is installed to as far
 as i can install it.  trouble is that i see on the dell screen
 
 Keyboard failure
 
 and a message to press F2 to setup.  the kvm has the old ps2
 plugs and no adaptors to USB.  i have the dell kybd here, come
 to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down
 and muck around and test.
 
 what's your best guess, folks?  the computer parts stores
 around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an
 adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it.
 
 any thoughts on this?  i think i would need at least 547 pain
 meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might
 drowse off
 
 gary
 
 
  [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/-
  0.0001s:)
 to change ports.
 
 
 PS/2 keyboards are still plentiful and cheap...
 
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201029
 
 I've had varied luck with adapters and since they're about the same price
 just as easy to keep a ps/2 around.
 
 -- 
 Adam Vande More


the keybd isn't the problem.  it is in the box with a bunch of
misc stuff i don't need.  problem is that on my KVM switch are
only ps2 plugs.  on the back of the dell are USB jacks.  i
need something to convert from the PS2 plug to fit into the
USB   


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http://jottings.thought.org   http://transfinite.thought.org
The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php

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Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ]

2009-11-07 Thread Robert Huff

Gary Kline writes:

   the keybd isn't the problem.  it is in the box with a bunch of
   misc stuff i don't need.  problem is that on my KVM switch are
   only ps2 plugs.  on the back of the dell are USB jacks.  i
   need something to convert from the PS2 plug to fit into the
   USB   

Have you actually tried this elsewhere and had it work?
Because I'm certainly no expert on KVMs, but that sounds like a
more likely to fail than succeed scenario.
(I use a StarTech four port USB KVM, and would be interested in
a good model that handles DVI/HDMI as opposed to 15 pin VGA video.)

Respectfully,


Robert Huff

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