Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-25 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:38:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:


Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a
32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization
support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940
(search for 64-bit guest)



So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an
E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.


I was using VB in a set-up like that up until a few weeks ago.


It works here now, too.  Apparently there's a difference between 
creating a 64-bit guest from the start, and creating a 32-bit guest and 
changing it to 64-bit afterwards.  Creating one that's 64-bit from the 
start works.

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virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Minipot Gregg
I wanted to get freeBSD but I didn't wan't to dual boot so I used virtualbox
4.0 and downloaded the ISO of the freeBSD amd64 8.2.
It installed fine but when I got to the boot menu and pressed [enter] x2 it
said CPU doesnt support longmode and then come's up saying type '?' to show
comands,
or 'help' to show help.
when I typed either of these commands it says '?' not found or 'help' not
found whats wrong and what should I do?
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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/07/2011 09:48, Minipot Gregg wrote:
 It installed fine but when I got to the boot menu and pressed [enter] x2 it
 said CPU doesnt support longmode

This indicates trying to run an amd64 (64bit) kernel on an i386 (32bit)
processor.  That's a synthetic processor inside VirtualBox, so unlike
the real world, it's quite cheap to switch from one to the other...

If you go to Settings :: General for your VM, did you choose OS as 'BSD'
and Version as 'FreeBSD 64' ?

I'm assuming the host you're running VirtualBox on is 64bit capable...

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Ross Cameron
Hi there Gregg

You have more than likely configured a 32bit virtual machine and not a 64bit
one.
Make that change to you're VM config and you will more than likely come
right.

Is you're host operating system also 64bit?



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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Minipot Gregg minipotgr...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wanted to get freeBSD but I didn't wan't to dual boot so I used
 virtualbox
 4.0 and downloaded the ISO of the freeBSD amd64 8.2.
 It installed fine but when I got to the boot menu and pressed [enter] x2 it
 said CPU doesnt support longmode and then come's up saying type '?' to show
 comands,
 or 'help' to show help.
 when I typed either of these commands it says '?' not found or 'help' not
 found whats wrong and what should I do?
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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Matthew Seaman wrote:


On 21/07/2011 09:48, Minipot Gregg wrote:

It installed fine but when I got to the boot menu and pressed [enter] x2 it
said CPU doesnt support longmode


This indicates trying to run an amd64 (64bit) kernel on an i386 (32bit)
processor.  That's a synthetic processor inside VirtualBox, so unlike
the real world, it's quite cheap to switch from one to the other...

If you go to Settings :: General for your VM, did you choose OS as 'BSD'
and Version as 'FreeBSD 64' ?

I'm assuming the host you're running VirtualBox on is 64bit capable...


Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a 
32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization 
support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940

(search for 64-bit guest)

So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an 
E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 01:18:15PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
 
 You have more than likely configured a 32bit virtual machine and not a 64bit
 one.
 Make that change to you're VM config and you will more than likely come
 right.
 
 Is you're host operating system also 64bit?

It has been about five months, so I may misremember, but I think I had a
very similar problem earlier this year.  I had a 64 bit Win7 system (on a
64 bit processor, naturally -- Intel Core i5).  I installed VirtualBox
and set it up for a 64 bit FreeBSD install, then tried to install 64 bit
FreeBSD; I think it was 8.2, but I didn't keep careful notes that I can
check now.

It failed to work.  I think I got a doesn't support long mode error,
but again I am not 100% certain due to the passage of time and the fact I
have not really thought about it in the interim.

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a
 32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization
 support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940
 (search for 64-bit guest)

 So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an
 E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.


That functionality has been around awhile, probably at least around the time
Vbox was introduced to FreeBSD ports.  I used to use 64 bit VM's on a 32 bit
FreeBSD host, but the only stipulation was only one 64 bit VM could be run
at a time.  I didn't have any stability issues.  This was in the early 3.X
series and I haven't tried recently.

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:38:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 
 Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a 
 32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization 
 support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940
 (search for 64-bit guest)
 
 So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an 
 E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.

I was using VB in a set-up like that up until a few weeks ago. I worked well I 
have to say but I couldn't get a full screen and in the end I installed 
dual-boot instead. This was with Win7(32bit) as the host, FreeBSD(64bit) as 
guest. I didn't try FreeBSD as host because I read that it's lacking USB 
support for the moment.
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