Re: vmware Questions

2007-02-22 Thread Frank Staals

John Nielsen wrote:

On Wednesday 21 February 2007 20:50, Martin McCormick wrote:
  

If one has a FreeBSD system that has 1 gigabyte of RAM
and a 1-GHZ processor, would it be possible to run a couple of
vmware instances of FreeBSD?  I want to set up a DHCP server on
each virtual machine and configure one to be optimized for DHCP
failover and dynamic leases while the other is dedicated to
static bootp service.  It would be much easier for the 2
instances of dhcpd to run in separate machines, so to speak,
since they normally use the same named files for logging and
configuration.

What sort of a performance hit does one usually see on a
virtual machine?



Depends a lot on the virtual machine. VMware Server runs VM's pretty 
efficiently, but there is a moderate hit. ESX server has almost n 
performance penalty.


  

When we run dhcpd on a normal FreeBSD system of the type
described above, the system is normally loaded around 0.05 or so
so it isn't having to work too hard.

Thanks for any help as to what vmware port is best.  The
platform is FreeBSD and the 2 virtual machines will also be
FreeBSD if that makes any difference.



Modern versions of VMware don't run under FreeBSD. If you really want VMware 
then install a supported Linux distro and run VMware server. (Or go out and 
buy ESX or GSX server or one of the Workstation products). FreeBSD 6.2 
works great as a guest under most VMware products.


  

There will be no X windows involved, just hopefully 2
DHCP servers running as if they were on two separate boxes.

Any information to point me in the right direction or
reasons why this is not a good idea are appreciated.



For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than 
virtualization or emulation. If you really want to run virtual machines 
under FreeBSD, take a look at qemu. qemu (even with the kqemu_kmod port 
(highly recommended) definitely has a noticeable performance impact, but 
DHCP is so lightweight that it probably won't matter.


JN
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If the goal is just to run FreeBSD instances inside your virutal 
machines vmware, qemu, xen etc are all not needed. Use jails instead 
which would be much faster.


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Re: vmware Questions

2007-02-22 Thread Martin McCormick
John Nielsen, referring to running multiple DHCPD's,  writes:
 For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than
 virtualization or emulation.

Thank you!  That is exactly the kind of input I was
looking for.  As soon as I read yours and Frank Staals' mention
of jails, it clicked.  A true jail will have a little version of
as much of the FreeBSD world as dhcpd needs to run.  This should
be much easier on resources and more predictable as to results.
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Re: vmware Questions

2007-02-22 Thread Simon Chang

A rule of thumb is to configure as much service as you need (in this
case, dhcpd), with as little overhead as you can get away with (a
simple jail vs. a full-blown VM).

SC

On 2/22/07, Martin McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

John Nielsen, referring to running multiple DHCPD's,  writes:
 For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than
 virtualization or emulation.

   Thank you!  That is exactly the kind of input I was
looking for.  As soon as I read yours and Frank Staals' mention
of jails, it clicked.  A true jail will have a little version of
as much of the FreeBSD world as dhcpd needs to run.  This should
be much easier on resources and more predictable as to results.
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vmware Questions

2007-02-21 Thread Martin McCormick
If one has a FreeBSD system that has 1 gigabyte of RAM
and a 1-GHZ processor, would it be possible to run a couple of
vmware instances of FreeBSD?  I want to set up a DHCP server on
each virtual machine and configure one to be optimized for DHCP
failover and dynamic leases while the other is dedicated to
static bootp service.  It would be much easier for the 2
instances of dhcpd to run in separate machines, so to speak,
since they normally use the same named files for logging and
configuration.

What sort of a performance hit does one usually see on a
virtual machine?

When we run dhcpd on a normal FreeBSD system of the type
described above, the system is normally loaded around 0.05 or so
so it isn't having to work too hard.

Thanks for any help as to what vmware port is best.  The
platform is FreeBSD and the 2 virtual machines will also be
FreeBSD if that makes any difference.

There will be no X windows involved, just hopefully 2
DHCP servers running as if they were on two separate boxes.

Any information to point me in the right direction or
reasons why this is not a good idea are appreciated.

Thank you.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: vmware Questions

2007-02-21 Thread John Nielsen
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 20:50, Martin McCormick wrote:
   If one has a FreeBSD system that has 1 gigabyte of RAM
 and a 1-GHZ processor, would it be possible to run a couple of
 vmware instances of FreeBSD?  I want to set up a DHCP server on
 each virtual machine and configure one to be optimized for DHCP
 failover and dynamic leases while the other is dedicated to
 static bootp service.  It would be much easier for the 2
 instances of dhcpd to run in separate machines, so to speak,
 since they normally use the same named files for logging and
 configuration.

   What sort of a performance hit does one usually see on a
 virtual machine?

Depends a lot on the virtual machine. VMware Server runs VM's pretty 
efficiently, but there is a moderate hit. ESX server has almost n 
performance penalty.

   When we run dhcpd on a normal FreeBSD system of the type
 described above, the system is normally loaded around 0.05 or so
 so it isn't having to work too hard.

   Thanks for any help as to what vmware port is best.  The
 platform is FreeBSD and the 2 virtual machines will also be
 FreeBSD if that makes any difference.

Modern versions of VMware don't run under FreeBSD. If you really want VMware 
then install a supported Linux distro and run VMware server. (Or go out and 
buy ESX or GSX server or one of the Workstation products). FreeBSD 6.2 
works great as a guest under most VMware products.

   There will be no X windows involved, just hopefully 2
 DHCP servers running as if they were on two separate boxes.

   Any information to point me in the right direction or
 reasons why this is not a good idea are appreciated.

For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than 
virtualization or emulation. If you really want to run virtual machines 
under FreeBSD, take a look at qemu. qemu (even with the kqemu_kmod port 
(highly recommended) definitely has a noticeable performance impact, but 
DHCP is so lightweight that it probably won't matter.

JN
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More VMWare questions

2004-04-16 Thread Ronnie Clark
Hello all, 

I have just loaded VMWare3 from ports, only because I
could not get the Linux version 4 to load correctly.
But now when I input the license key that I have, it
says that it cannot be found or doesn't match
available licenses. 

Has anyone else bumped into this scenario? If so, what
is fix? Is there a workaround for this license key
issue? 

Any (and all) help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ron Clark





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