[Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
I have a newer HP printer and need drivers for DOS and Win311 also Wordstar. The printer is an all in one with USB which I can convert to parallel. Where can I find such? CWSIV -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
The time to consider DOS compatibility is *before* you purchase the printer. If your printer can do some form of PCL then you are probably safe. A higher end HP laser printer should definitely understand PCL. Old Epson printer emulation and PostScript would be acceptable too - a Brother laser printer that I bought 1.5 years ago does all three. If your printer can not do any of those then it is probably hopeless for DOS. (Nobody is writing new DOS printer drivers.) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
I cannot say firmly if they can be crossed of course. Still printer drivers for wordperfect are kept current, as well as how to use the program in a number of operating systems. visit. www.wpuniverse.com or simply google word perfect for dos. I cannot recall Edwin's direct site right now. Likewise hp is very good about keeping older printer drivers for their products, so you may find what you need there. Hope this is helpful, Karen On Sun, 30 Dec 2012, Carl Spitzer wrote: I have a newer HP printer and need drivers for DOS and Win311 also Wordstar. The printer is an all in one with USB which I can convert to parallel. Where can I find such? CWSIV -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
Hi Carl, Bernd, I have a newer HP printer and need drivers for DOS and Win311 also Wordstar. That depends on what you want to do - I assume most printers can still print plain text, but WordStar would allow you to use custom layout, probably just a collection of Escape codes for, say, bold, italic and so on. You could try making your own, if there is a sufficiently verbose handbook, maybe online... Note that the newest WordStar version is from 1987, so I guess you will not find much more than ESC/P2 or ESC/P, older HP PCL, maybe PostScript. Actually the latter might be a good idea, try some generic laser printer driver. But then, cheap new printers do not usually support that, I would say... For DOS, you do not need drivers as long as you do just plain text, things like copy hello.txt lpt1 or the printscreen button. For Windows, you probably want drivers which let you send graphical data, for example to let Windows print Word texts with truetype fonts etc. - Again, a generic PostScript driver or similar might work. Likely these drivers won't even exist. Typically under DOS, data was sent over the parallel port to printer, thus no drivers needed. Windows Even over the parallel port, you can send non-text :-) 3.x might have had some drivers for printers, but unlikely HP creates Win31-drivers for their new hardware. Maybe a generic choice like using the HP Deskjet500C driver will do the trick, or some Postscript or PCL I agree. driver. Hope your device it's not a so-called Win-Printer (just like Win-Modems) which means operating systems outside of Windows can't make the printer function as most processing is done by software instead of the printer hardware processor itself. Those are also called GDI printers: They only have some sort of simple, printer specific data format, while only the Windows driver software understands more standard interfaces. So you can only use them with the Windows driver or a complex driver which is likely to be only available for Linux, not DOS. The printer is an all in one with USB which I can convert to parallel. Probably using some sort of hardware adapter? Interesting. By the way, small network devices (e.g. router) which can connect USB WLAN, UMTS, 3G or similar sticks on one side and classic network cable on the other side are also a good idea to get around the chronic lack of wireless network drivers for modern devices in DOS - you more often do find drivers for network cards and routers or similar wireless bridges are cheap. Ehm? There's USB-adapters to connect LPT-printers which work, and there's printers that have both USB and parallel port. That would also work. A printer without parallel port can't be connected to parallel port on your machine by any converter whatsoever. So there are converters :-) Where can I find such? Probably not at all - 1987 is long ago, but you can still find drivers for CLASSIC protocols and hope your new printer supports one of them. And you can still define your own ESC sequences if you are already happy with WordStar being able to make some parts of your text bold etc etc. Cheers, Eric PS: Happy almost new year to everybody :-) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Re (2): old machines
From: dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:30:53 -0500 The problem is what you *do* with it [Oberon]. My top uses are text editing and email. There are several good tools including Diff text comparator and RX regular expression processor. For me it's a good personal workstation. That's what it was designed to be. In the commercial domain it is the basis of more than one embedded system. A2 has an FTP server and Web server; not the advanced networking tools and multimedia capabilities available in Linux. ETHO and A2 both have bugs and requirements as does Linux. Debugging, programming and document editing are welcome. If you require only commercial applications, stay in the DOS and Windows path. Regards, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
On Sun, 2012-12-30 at 08:45 -0600, Michael B. Brutman wrote: The time to consider DOS compatibility is *before* you purchase the printer. If your printer can do some form of PCL then you are probably safe. A higher end HP laser printer should definitely understand PCL. Old Epson printer emulation and PostScript would be acceptable too - a Brother laser printer that I bought 1.5 years ago does all three. If your printer can not do any of those then it is probably hopeless for DOS. (Nobody is writing new DOS printer drivers.) I was given an HP c4680 all in one. I will attempt a cludge using WordSTAR under XP and let that OS handle the usb and see if it works. I have drivers for the HPIII SI already there and they worked with the Epson Action Lazer 1500 which died last year. Otherwise Ill look for some HP4 or HP5 Dos drivers as I remember they came out around the time of the Epson. Otherwise I have to retype several things. I did have an HP1100 working that way and I am considering buying the HP1102 W for the same reason though that is also wireless / USB and someone said there is no way to hook that to Parallel. then again I have been wanting to test virtual Box so there are several fixes to try some fancy some cludge style. CWSIV CWSIV -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
On Sun, 2012-12-30 at 11:10 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: I cannot say firmly if they can be crossed of course. Still printer drivers for wordperfect are kept current, as well as how to use the program in a number of operating systems. visit. www.wpuniverse.com or simply google word perfect for dos. I cannot recall Edwin's direct site right now. Likewise hp is very good about keeping older printer drivers for their products, so you may find what you need there. It could be very helpful seems WP DOS can be made to work in Linux which has no problems with USB the only issue would be conversion from WordSTAR 7.0 D format. So that is definitely another potential solution otherwise Ill need to type the recipies in from scratch in which case OpenOffice / LibreOffice will do nicely. Then there is all that scanning of newspaper recipies to start. CWSIV CWSIV -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
On linux you can use Abiword or LibreOffice in order to open WP documents. El 30/12/2012 01:39 p.m., Carl Spitzer escribió: On Sun, 2012-12-30 at 11:10 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: I cannot say firmly if they can be crossed of course. Still printer drivers for wordperfect are kept current, as well as how to use the program in a number of operating systems. visit. www.wpuniverse.com or simply google word perfect for dos. I cannot recall Edwin's direct site right now. Likewise hp is very good about keeping older printer drivers for their products, so you may find what you need there. It could be very helpful seems WP DOS can be made to work in Linux which has no problems with USB the only issue would be conversion from WordSTAR 7.0 D format. So that is definitely another potential solution otherwise Ill need to type the recipies in from scratch in which case OpenOffice / LibreOffice will do nicely. Then there is all that scanning of newspaper recipies to start. CWSIV CWSIV -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Tel: +58-(212)-6158777 Cel: +58-(414)-3142282 Skype: marcoachury http://www.achury.com.ve -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Re (2): old machines
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:30:53 -0500 The problem is what you *do* with it [Oberon]. My top uses are text editing and email. There are several good tools including Diff text comparator and RX regular expression processor. For me it's a good personal workstation. That's what it was designed to be. ... If you require only commercial applications, stay in the DOS and Windows path. I don't usually require commercial applications (and the majority of what I run is open source.) I *do* have use cases beyond text editing and email. A pure Oberon solution would not work here. Regards, ... Peter E. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
Hi, well not exactly. At present wordperfect will only let you print using the parallel port, which is why i suggested this, you mentioned you could use this. In fact Bret Johnson if you are reading this exchange, write me privately. The person who maintains Wordperfect is interested in your dos usb printer structure as a possible avenue. Additionally, the wordprefect printer drivers for dos page update in November 2012, does not recommend the c4680. It does not mean that you cannot print using wp for dos however. Edwin provides instructions for printing with wp for dos using any windows printer. I might add for those who hinted that no one writes printer drivers for dos, he most certainly does even for printing in 64 bit environments. There is information for using wp in Linux there is even one for Linux if you have this instead. As for the converting, that would likely be the easiest part since wordperfect 6.0 and later has this option for wordstar. Karen On Sun, 30 Dec 2012, Carl Spitzer wrote: On Sun, 2012-12-30 at 11:10 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: I cannot say firmly if they can be crossed of course. Still printer drivers for wordperfect are kept current, as well as how to use the program in a number of operating systems. visit. www.wpuniverse.com or simply google word perfect for dos. I cannot recall Edwin's direct site right now. Likewise hp is very good about keeping older printer drivers for their products, so you may find what you need there. It could be very helpful seems WP DOS can be made to work in Linux which has no problems with USB the only issue would be conversion from WordSTAR 7.0 D format. So that is definitely another potential solution otherwise Ill need to type the recipies in from scratch in which case OpenOffice / LibreOffice will do nicely. Then there is all that scanning of newspaper recipies to start. CWSIV CWSIV -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs
On Sun, 2012-12-30 at 13:50 -0430, Marco Achury wrote: On linux you can use Abiword or LibreOffice in order to open WP documents. So a second conversion from WordStar. I also found a free version of StarOffice 7.0 in many versions which is said to do conversions as well then as you point out only one more convert is needed. Seems to get the latest version of WP DOS you must first buy a license key with the software from dealers in old versions. CWSIV -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] WordStar documents
Following this theme from another thread: Word Star internal format is relativelly simple, in DOS era many programs import WS data, and other programs as NortonCommander file manager included WS viewer in order to quick see the text inside WS document. Check at: http://www.wordstar.org/index.php/downloads/downloads-fileconverters http://www.wordstar.org/index.php/downloads This program look OK, includes C source, convert WS to RTF. http://www.wordstar.org/index.php/downloads/downloads-fileconverters?download=5:wsrtf -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury http://www.achury.com.ve -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] WordStar documents
From the same site: This program includes GPL license, may be you can consider to include it on FreeDOS distro or in the software list http://www.wordstar.org/index.php/downloads/downloads-fileconverters?download=1:wsconen El 31/12/2012 01:11 a.m., Marco Achury escribió: Following this theme from another thread: Word Star internal format is relativelly simple, in DOS era many programs import WS data, and other programs as NortonCommander file manager included WS viewer in order to quick see the text inside WS document. Check at: http://www.wordstar.org/index.php/downloads/downloads-fileconverters http://www.wordstar.org/index.php/downloads This program look OK, includes C source, convert WS to RTF. http://www.wordstar.org/index.php/downloads/downloads-fileconverters?download=5:wsrtf -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury http://www.achury.com.ve -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Tel: +58-(212)-6158777 Cel: +58-(414)-3142282 Skype: marcoachury http://www.achury.com.ve -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
