Re: Installing OSs 10.4.6 and 9.2.2 on a New Pismo Drive
Calla2 wrote: I put the new 80 GB drive in an external USB enclosure. in my knowledge you cannot boot from an external hard drive ... and I'm surprised you can install and boot OS9! Angelo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g-books@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing OSs 10.4.6 and 9.2.2 on a New Pismo Drive
Hmmm. After further Googling , it seems some model PPC Macs can boot from USB after all. This article here... http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1469972tstart=30 has some interesting info and may give you a few pointers. Stewie On Sep 8, 5:15 am, Calla2 karr...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, I'm running OS 10.4.6/Tiger on a 500 MHz G3 Pismo with 1 GB of memory. Since I struggle to keep 2.5 GB free on the 12 GB hard drive, I decided to uprgade to a new 80 GB drive. I put the new 80 GB drive in an external USB enclosure. I used the disk utility to erase the drive and then made 4 partitions (yeah, I know partitioning erases the drive but I'm being thorough). The 1st partition (where I want to install both OS 9.2.2 and Tiger) is 7.1 GB and, like the other 3 partitions, is formatted to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Next I installed OS 9.2.1 on the 1st partition, and was able to boot from it and upgrade to 9.2.2 easily. I was also able to install and run a few OS 9 programs (e.g., iCab, Mozilla 1.3., and MS Word Office). These programs were all installed on the second partition. Now certain that OS 9.2.2 is bootable and running fine, I attempted to also install OS X on the 1st partition of the 80 GB drive (still in the enclosure). I booted into the install OS X DVD, and the only drive that it will let me select for installation (more specifically, upgrade) is the internal 12 GB drive: the 4 partitions on the enclosure show up but are not available for installation. Using Disk Utility on the install disk also shows all 4 partitions, and none of them have any errors when I verify the disks (I'm not allowed to verify or repair permissions so I can't tell if that is the problem). I don't know if it matters, but the icons for the partitions are those orange external drives with the usb symbols instead of the gray 'enclosure-less' drive icon for the internal drive. I even tried using the restore feature, which got all of the OS X files into the 1st partition, but the 80 GB is still not bootable into OS X. When I try to use the 'startup disk' feature on the install DVD, the only options available are my internal drive and OS 9 on the 80 GB drive. I've tried a number of machinations to get this to work, but I won't bore you with the details. Obviously I'm doing something wrong, so I'm turning to you brilliant powerbook minds to help me out: how can I install both OS 9.2.2 and OS 10.4.6 on a new 80 GB drive so that I can boot into both OSs? I hope I provided sufficient detail and look forward to your responses. TIA. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g-books@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing OSs 10.4.6 and 9.2.2 on a New Pismo Drive
Kris, Yes, I checked for Apple partition mapping before partitioning and it was the default option. Thanks for the suggestion though. Karren --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g-books@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing OSs 10.4.6 and 9.2.2 on a New Pismo Drive
Stewie, I wish I had a firewire enclosure primarily because it's faster (although I did wonder if the usb enclosure is part of the problem, I was less concerned once I was able to install and boot in OS 9.2). The primary reason that I did not install the 80 GB drive in the Pismo before partitioning and installing is because one of the screws holding the current hard drive in is stripped and nothing I have tried has been able to release it (I even bought another screwdriver kit to no avail). If anyone has any viable suggestions for removing a stripped screw or for where I can find a CHEAP firewire enclosure I would appreciate it. TIA. Karren On Sep 7, 5:04 pm, stewie stewies...@hotmail.com wrote: I think what Angelo means is that he is surprised you can install and boot from an external USB drive ( so am I ) If this was a Firewire attached drive, you would have no problem. I have a SCSI box with OS9.1 and OSX Jaguar installed which boots from either OS to a Wallstreet and Lombard and a Firewire box with OS9.2.1 and OSX Tiger that can boot my Pismo. If you don't have a firewire enclosure why don't you install the drive in the Pismo and just install OSX there ? Stewie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g-books@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing OSs 10.4.6 and 9.2.2 on a New Pismo Drive
On Sep 7, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Calla2 wrote: Yes, I checked for Apple partition mapping before partitioning and it was the default option. Thanks for the suggestion though. If it's in an external drive, and it's partitioned Apple Partition Map, then you should be able to install 10.4 onto any partition. I've done this many times on Firewire external enclosures. I've also installed onto (and booted from) external USB enclosures on clamshell iBooks. Are you certain the Pismo firmware is current, it should be version 4.1.8f5. If the firmware is current, and you can't install onto your selected partition, you might try booting using XPostFacto to install with. XPF has a way to overcome any installer limitations. After you installed using XPF, you wouldn't need to install the XPF extensions onto the new, clean installation, you could just boot it directly from the new clean install. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books). The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g-books@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
