[Gendergap] Girls Write Now
Hi everyone, A fellow-Wikipedian sent me a link to this after the GLAMcamp weekend, and finding that I was active on our Gender gap list: http://www.girlswritenow.org/gwn/node/988 Could be worth investigating!? -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for the Wikimedia Foundation http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch -- Sarah Stierch Consulting Historical, cultural artistic research, advising event planning. -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
I'm sure all the persecuted fans of big tits will appreciate your efforts. Ryan Kaldari On 5/26/11 5:01 PM, Béria Lima wrote: carol, en.wiki aproved that, Commons didn't. You can't use a rule from one wiki in another. IF - and that is a BIG if, if commons community approve such kind of rules, you people can remove all comments you can find Until there, is censure, and you people will not do it while i'm there to watch commons RC. _ /Béria Lima/ Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt (351) 963 953 042 /Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer./ 2011/5/27 carolmoor...@verizon.net mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net Racist, homophobic and anti-semitic comments are certainly criticized and people ask for their removal. A pattern of such comments could get one banned. The same should be true for obviously sexist comments. In fact, it's here See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civil#Identifying_incivility - after a long debate with some editors strongly opposed to adding such sexist comments. * (b) personal attacks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks, including racial, ethnic, sexual, gender-related and religious slurs, and derogatory references to groups such as social classes or nationalities; On 5/26/2011 2:53 PM, Sarah wrote: 2011/5/26 Ryan Kaldarirkald...@wikimedia.org mailto:rkald...@wikimedia.org Those types of comments are a lot worse than unnecessary. They create a sexualized environment that is exclusionary to anyone who isn't a heterosexual male. If this doesn't make sense to you, please read through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment These types of comments should be removed on sight. If you see them, please delete them or email me. Thanks. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:34, Béria Limaberia.l...@wikimedia.pt mailto:beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: If you start the censure in Commons, Ryan, your cause will be in Adm noticeboard on sight _ Béria Lima Wikimedia Portugal (351) 963 953 042 Béria, you've rightly asked that people not generalize their responses, where they assume everyone feels as they do. But the same applies to you. You're not offended by these comments. You would see their removal as censorship. Others disagree, and their arguments are valid too. It would be interesting if we could try to find common ground. I agree with you that it's important not to be over-sensitive. But a big problem is that women have been taught for hundreds of years that they're just over-reacting when they say they see discrimination. So the question is: how do we create an environment that's welcoming for as many groups as possible -- including groups who are sensitive to perceived discrimination, and groups who are sensitive to perceived censorship? Sarah _ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
Guess we need lots more people on Commons, too, who do not tolerate bigotry towards women On 5/26/2011 8:01 PM, Béria Lima wrote: carol, en.wiki aproved that, Commons didn't. You can't use a rule from one wiki in another. IF - and that is a BIG if, if commons community approve such kind of rules, you people can remove all comments you can find Until there, is censure, and you people will not do it while i'm there to watch commons RC. _ /Béria Lima/ Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt (351) 963 953 042 /Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer./ 2011/5/27 carolmoor...@verizon.net mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net Racist, homophobic and anti-semitic comments are certainly criticized and people ask for their removal. A pattern of such comments could get one banned. The same should be true for obviously sexist comments. In fact, it's here See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civil#Identifying_incivility - after a long debate with some editors strongly opposed to adding such sexist comments. * (b) personal attacks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks, including racial, ethnic, sexual, gender-related and religious slurs, and derogatory references to groups such as social classes or nationalities; On 5/26/2011 2:53 PM, Sarah wrote: 2011/5/26 Ryan Kaldarirkald...@wikimedia.org mailto:rkald...@wikimedia.org Those types of comments are a lot worse than unnecessary. They create a sexualized environment that is exclusionary to anyone who isn't a heterosexual male. If this doesn't make sense to you, please read through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment These types of comments should be removed on sight. If you see them, please delete them or email me. Thanks. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:34, Béria Limaberia.l...@wikimedia.pt mailto:beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: If you start the censure in Commons, Ryan, your cause will be in Adm noticeboard on sight _ Béria Lima Wikimedia Portugal (351) 963 953 042 Béria, you've rightly asked that people not generalize their responses, where they assume everyone feels as they do. But the same applies to you. You're not offended by these comments. You would see their removal as censorship. Others disagree, and their arguments are valid too. It would be interesting if we could try to find common ground. I agree with you that it's important not to be over-sensitive. But a big problem is that women have been taught for hundreds of years that they're just over-reacting when they say they see discrimination. So the question is: how do we create an environment that's welcoming for as many groups as possible -- including groups who are sensitive to perceived discrimination, and groups who are sensitive to perceived censorship? Sarah _ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3662 - Release Date: 05/26/11 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] B?ria Lima question
Dear B?ria Lima - I have been reading your posts with interest. You seem quite passionately against the deletion of sexist comments. Can you say more about why? Are you opposed to the deletion of all comments seen as racist, sexist, ethnic slurs, homophobic, etc or is there something about censuring or censoring sexist comments that is particularly offensive to you? I am genuinely curious, Frances Kissling, visiting scholar Center for Bioethics, UPenn 202 368 3954 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
It is on the English Wikipedia that an attempt was made to draw firm lines regarding civility; though it has partially failed. Our efforts were even mentioned in The New York Times, although, when I searched I found this: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/technology/09blog.html Which is interesting in its own right. This was the one I was looking for: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/weekinreview/29cohen.html Fred Guess we need lots more people on Commons, too, who do not tolerate bigotry towards women On 5/26/2011 8:01 PM, Béria Lima wrote: carol, en.wiki aproved that, Commons didn't. You can't use a rule from one wiki in another. IF - and that is a BIG if, if commons community approve such kind of rules, you people can remove all comments you can find Until there, is censure, and you people will not do it while i'm there to watch commons RC. _ /Béria Lima/ Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
