Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Re: Wikipedia: Biography of Living People guide (focusing on sport)
But could things be downcased unless there's a good reason not to? See en.WP Manual of Style and most other authorities. Ta. Tony On 15/09/2011, at 3:31 PM, Laura Hale wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: That's a great start! One thing I'd do... our acronym soup can be enormously confusing. I have a tendency to write enwp.org/WP:BLP , for instance, but an outsider might need to see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_Living_Persons - it's easier for the mind to parse. I shortened the URLs mostly because this was intended as a print resource. The fewer the letters, the less likely people are to get frustrated with typing. :) -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com __ Tony Souter Phone: +612 9310 1474 mob 0450 717627 (+61450 717627) new number, but often not switched on Skype: tonysouter MSN: to...@iinet.net.au 291 Chalmers St, Redfern 2016, Australia ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Wikiquotes
Looking at my wikiquotes talk page for the first time in a while, I was reminded that is another area women's contributions may not be taken as seriously. Example: the deletion in 2009 of poet Marcella Boccia's quotes from English wikipedia after her article had been deleted from En wikipedia. Actually, I just checked and it's not in the Italian wikipedia version either. Despite http://www.google.com/search?ned=ushl=enq=Marcella+Bocciatbm=nwstbs=ar:1 notability in Italian I noted at time of deletion discussion. So let's not forget Wikiquote!! ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikiquotes
Yes! I have never edited or contributed anything to wikiquote. I have contributed to Wikisource, and I'm starting to think I'm the only woman who ever has, even though it was two documents. I don't even think there is much of anything related to women's history on Wikisource... We were discussing in #wikimedia-gendergap a few days ago about the need for more featured images of women and related subjects on Commons. I kept rolling my eyes everytime I saw the ATV that was a featured image the other day. I'm actually developing a wikipage that will showcase a collection of topics that need expansion, watching, clean up, etc, and/or photos for English Wikipedia, which I naturally assume will be the same for other languages. Once it's a little fleshed out we can see if it's useful in any way. I think it's interesting just to see what we're lacking on...on top of the 1009232 other things I'm doing... -Sarah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:08 AM, carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: Looking at my wikiquotes talk page for the first time in a while, I was reminded that is another area women's contributions may not be taken as seriously. Example: the deletion in 2009 of poet Marcella Boccia's quotes from English wikipedia after her article had been deleted from En wikipedia. Actually, I just checked and it's not in the Italian wikipedia version either. Despite http://www.google.com/search?ned=ushl=enq=Marcella+Bocciatbm=nwstbs=ar:1notability in Italian I noted at time of deletion discussion. So let's not forget Wikiquote!! ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I searched for hairdresser and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture. Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd... Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresseroldid=238820338) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject? Regards, Ole Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article. Fred ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Re: Wikipedia: Biography of Living People guide (focusing on sport)
Just so it doesn't get lost as we look at the details (which is important work, of course) -- I want to jump up and cheer! This is a really good resource, as good and in some respects better than the outreach materials we developed as part of the original Booshelf project: http://bookshelf.wikimedia.org Through the magic of our IRC chat channel, I've been able to see how incredibly quickly you put this together, Laura -- and having worked on similar materials, I'm super impressed. It's not easy work, but it's very valuable. I hope to see more of this stuff coming out of your work in the Australian sports world. -Pete ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikiquote
Did anyone see the quote of the day? Part of me wonders if was intended for us.. ;-) http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Main_Page Hahaha! ;-) Never argue with a garbage truck http://books.google.com/books?id=iwjLbxLBoM8Cpg=PA87lpg=PA87dq=%22Never+argue+with+a+garbage+truck%22source=blots=kRhR3FpHRJsig=W-pIksedCze5OpJzUJ3x_X4KrcQhl=enei=Vj1yTu64HJD-sQKG-rXECQsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1ved=0CCQQ6AEwAA#v=onepageq=%22Never%20argue%20with%20a%20garbage%20truck%22f=false Fred ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikiquote
Did anyone see the quote of the day? Part of me wonders if was intended for us.. ;-) http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Main_Page Hahaha! ;-) Never argue with a garbage truck http://books.google.com/books?id=iwjLbxLBoM8Cpg=PA87lpg=PA87dq=%22Never+argue+with+a+garbage+truck%22source=blots=kRhR3FpHRJsig=W-pIksedCze5OpJzUJ3x_X4KrcQhl=enei=Vj1yTu64HJD-sQKG-rXECQsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1ved=0CCQQ6AEwAA#v=onepageq=%22Never%20argue%20with%20a%20garbage%20truck%22f=false Fred We will encounter things we cannot control. Fred ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikiquotes
Speaking of topics that need expansion, there are still HUGE gaps in Wikipedia's coverage of art outside of the United States. For example, there are no articles for Mexican art, Polish art, Swiss art, etc. (not even stubs!) and don't even bother looking for African, South American, or Asian countries. Ryan Kaldari On 9/15/11 6:17 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: Yes! I have never edited or contributed anything to wikiquote. I have contributed to Wikisource, and I'm starting to think I'm the only woman who ever has, even though it was two documents. I don't even think there is much of anything related to women's history on Wikisource... We were discussing in #wikimedia-gendergap a few days ago about the need for more featured images of women and related subjects on Commons. I kept rolling my eyes everytime I saw the ATV that was a featured image the other day. I'm actually developing a wikipage that will showcase a collection of topics that need expansion, watching, clean up, etc, and/or photos for English Wikipedia, which I naturally assume will be the same for other languages. Once it's a little fleshed out we can see if it's useful in any way. I think it's interesting just to see what we're lacking on...on top of the 1009232 other things I'm doing... -Sarah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:08 AM, carolmoor...@verizon.net mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: Looking at my wikiquotes talk page for the first time in a while, I was reminded that is another area women's contributions may not be taken as seriously. Example: the deletion in 2009 of poet Marcella Boccia's quotes from English wikipedia after her article had been deleted from En wikipedia. Actually, I just checked and it's not in the Italian wikipedia version either. Despite http://www.google.com/search?ned=ushl=enq=Marcella+Bocciatbm=nwstbs=ar:1 http://www.google.com/search?ned=ushl=enq=Marcella+Bocciatbm=nwstbs=ar:1 notability in Italian I noted at time of deletion discussion. So let's not forget Wikiquote!! ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting /Historical, cultural artistic research advising./ -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikiquotes
There is a portal feminism on Wikisource but it is very under developed. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Portal:Feminism See Josephine K. Henry added to the portal by me in March 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_K._Henry http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Josephine_K._Henry The portal is not been edited very much since then. I wrote about Nannie Helen Burroughs on WP and WQ. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nannie_Helen_Burroughs http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nannie_Helen_Burroughs One way to do it is to write an Wikipedia article, upload images to Commons, add their published works to Wikisource, and an entry on Wikiquote with good quotes. It is a very efficient way to do it. I've done it in the past for a few people. It is a great way to meet new people on the other projects. Sydney On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Yes! I have never edited or contributed anything to wikiquote. I have contributed to Wikisource, and I'm starting to think I'm the only woman who ever has, even though it was two documents. I don't even think there is much of anything related to women's history on Wikisource... We were discussing in #wikimedia-gendergap a few days ago about the need for more featured images of women and related subjects on Commons. I kept rolling my eyes everytime I saw the ATV that was a featured image the other day. I'm actually developing a wikipage that will showcase a collection of topics that need expansion, watching, clean up, etc, and/or photos for English Wikipedia, which I naturally assume will be the same for other languages. Once it's a little fleshed out we can see if it's useful in any way. I think it's interesting just to see what we're lacking on...on top of the 1009232 other things I'm doing... -Sarah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:08 AM, carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: Looking at my wikiquotes talk page for the first time in a while, I was reminded that is another area women's contributions may not be taken as seriously. Example: the deletion in 2009 of poet Marcella Boccia's quotes from English wikipedia after her article had been deleted from En wikipedia. Actually, I just checked and it's not in the Italian wikipedia version either. Despite http://www.google.com/search?ned=ushl=enq=Marcella+Bocciatbm=nwstbs=ar:1notability in Italian I noted at time of deletion discussion. So let's not forget Wikiquote!! ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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Re: [Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?
Hopefully that'll change (I think?) I encourage everyone to improve on it and watch the super awesome video I just added from the Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision. They sure don't do hair like they used to :D -Sarah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Nicole Willson artisticaltru...@gmail.comwrote: Interestingly enough, the top Google result for hairdresser is the barber article on Wikipedia. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Oh yeah!!! A brief history is added and some statistical data about hairdressers in the US today. /cheer -Sarah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Please add to it! Ryan Kaldari On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I searched for hairdresser and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture. Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd... Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresseroldid=238820338) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject? Regards, Ole Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article. Fred ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Only the shallow know themselves. - Oscar Wilde ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?
Ack! I just nominated somethingand you did also! -Sarah (mine was about the 5 foot tall hairdo and Marie Antoinette...) On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: ** Wow, that was fast! Nice work. I think this deserves a DYK :) Ryan Kaldari On 9/15/11 2:54 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Oh yeah!!! A brief history is added and some statistical data about hairdressers in the US today. /cheer -Sarah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Please add to it! Ryan Kaldari On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierchsarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I searched for hairdresser and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture. Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd... Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresseroldid=238820338 ) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject? Regards, Ole Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article. Fred ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
