Re: [Gendergap] Statistics about gender gap

2012-02-03 Thread emijrp
Here is the accumulate by project family
http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wmcharts/wmchart0013.html Wikiquote,
Wikisource and Wikiversity are the winners.

2012/2/2 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote:
  2012/2/2 Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com
 ...
  What else are people seeing in their chosen languages that might be
  interesting? Anything surprising?
 
 
  No. Only a few examples where women are 15-25% of edits some days but in
  small Wikipedias or sister projects. They are not representative.

 I think (hope..) you might find a high female participate rate even if
 you aggregate across all of the Wikisource projects.

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 John Vandenberg

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Re: [Gendergap] Statistics about gender gap

2012-02-03 Thread Carol Moore DC

On 2/2/2012 3:03 AM, Caroline Becker wrote:
Don't be depress Sarah if female participation remains low. Even if 
Wikipedia was a perfect place without any bias, it would still be a 
project from the real world were lot of forces prevent women from 
editing : lower confidence in themselves, less free time, lower access 
to education.


We can't change the world, juste make our small environnement a little 
less unjust.


Caroline
Particularly making it more acceptable to raise the issues of 
harassment, double standards and systematic bias in various dispute 
situations in terms of sex.


So far I've been lucky that in the most negative situations others did 
raise it and call it out, if not on my sex, at least on political or 
admin vs. editor basis.  When I brought up the sex bias issue I was 
ignored or ridiculed.


Of course, it helps if women (acknowledged being so or not) spend more 
time commenting on ANI or Wikiquette or other places where civility and 
sometimes even sex bias issues raised. I've been on latter lately here 
and there; not on former in quite a while.


CM

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Re: [Gendergap] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia

2012-02-03 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Yeah, I'm a little dense sometimes :) I promise if you put a ;) at the 
end of your post, though, I won't reply to your sarcasm with shocked 
indignation.


Ryan Kaldari

On 2/3/12 11:52 AM, emijrp wrote:
2012/2/2 Caroline Becker carobecke...@gmail.com 
mailto:carobecke...@gmail.com


That was irony, sorry :) I'm against image filtering and I think
image filtering has nothing to do with gender gap, so I answered
with my guts instead of my brain :(

Caroline


I got your sarcasm Caroline. Is Ryan the new Sheldon? Attention: sarcasm.



2012/2/2 Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org
mailto:rkald...@wikimedia.org

I'm not familiar with the discussion you are referring to, but
I'm 100% sure Jimmy would never say that as it is completely
antithetical to his position on Wikipedia editing. Do you
happen to remember where you read that?

Ryan Kaldari


On 2/1/12 11:53 PM, Caroline Becker wrote:

Yeah, and yesterday yet another intellectual said that
Wikipedia cannot be trust because it is written by everyone,
so Jimmy mentioned that only scholars will edit Wikipedia in
the futur ?

Caroline


2012/2/2 Andreas K. jayen...@gmail.com
mailto:jayen...@gmail.com

A Wikimedian has just started a Facebook page Stop
pornography on Wikipedia


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-pornography-on-Wikipedia/307245972661745


following an earlier post by her to [[User talk:Jimbo
Wales]] in Wikipedia:


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Walesoldid=474195137#The_animated_gif_file_of_a_man_mastrubating_is_in_a_public_domain._Do_we_need_it_in_public_domain.3F

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Walesoldid=474195137#The_animated_gif_file_of_a_man_mastrubating_is_in_a_public_domain._Do_we_need_it_in_public_domain.3F


Jimmy mentioned that the image filter is on the agenda of
this week's board meeting again.

Andreas



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