[Gendergap] how sewing circles became secret queer celebrity love fests
Where I expected to read about sewing circles and sewing bees... I get an article about lesbian/bisexual actresses secretly having relationships? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewing_circles The best part is I just linked it off of an article about Sarah Allen, the Founding Mother of the African Methodist Episcopal Church. I almost feel like I should remove the link until the article is improved. O_o O_o /FACEPALM -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedian* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] how sewing circles became secret queer celebrity love fests
On Monday, 3 June 2013 at 08:32, Sarah Stierch wrote: Where I expected to read about sewing circles and sewing bees... I get an article about lesbian/bisexual actresses secretly having relationships? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewing_circles The best part is I just linked it off of an article about Sarah Allen, the Founding Mother of the African Methodist Episcopal Church. I almost feel like I should remove the link until the article is improved. Nothing wrong with us having both, but really, we ought to split out sewing circles used in the original sense from sewing circles used in the lesbian sense... -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] how sewing circles became secret queer celebrity love fests
Wow. I looked at that article and found masses of unreferenced allegations about people, although it appears all are dead, so BLP violations can't be claimed. Frankly, I don't think a person's sexuality should be mentioned in an article about sexuality if it isn't mentioned in the persons biographical article. One often looks at articles like these and comes to the conclusion that it's at least partly based on unsourced allegations, rumours, and urban legends. I do note that the women's sexuality is discussed in about half the articles, so that is somewhat reassuring. On the other hand, I'm not certain that the usage of the term sewing circles in reference to lesbianism was common, and it's not around in a lot of references. It absolutely is not more common than the use of the term to refer to groups of women who actually sew - like that marginalized group of Amish and Mennonites who continue to have regular sewing circles even today. Of course, they don't read online encyclopedias so they don't know that our project is suggesting their activity is a fun-filled afternoon of sexual frolicking. My feeling is that the article titled sewing circle should refer to needlework and this article renamed to sewing circles (lesbian groups) or something like that. Risker/Anne On 3 June 2013 03:32, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Where I expected to read about sewing circles and sewing bees... I get an article about lesbian/bisexual actresses secretly having relationships? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewing_circles The best part is I just linked it off of an article about Sarah Allen, the Founding Mother of the African Methodist Episcopal Church. I almost feel like I should remove the link until the article is improved. O_o O_o /FACEPALM -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedian* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] how sewing circles became secret queer celebrity love fests
Hi Anne, I totally agree with your assessment, the Amish/Mennonite sense seems to be far more prominent from just a quick survey. I'm on my phone right now so I can't move things around, but I support whoever does. Kei Sent from my HTC One™ S on T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network. - Reply message - From: Risker risker...@gmail.com To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Gendergap] how sewing circles became secret queer celebrity love fests Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2013 11:27 AM Wow. I looked at that article and found masses of unreferenced allegations about people, although it appears all are dead, so BLP violations can't be claimed. Frankly, I don't think a person's sexuality should be mentioned in an article about sexuality if it isn't mentioned in the persons biographical article. One often looks at articles like these and comes to the conclusion that it's at least partly based on unsourced allegations, rumours, and urban legends. I do note that the women's sexuality is discussed in about half the articles, so that is somewhat reassuring. On the other hand, I'm not certain that the usage of the term sewing circles in reference to lesbianism was common, and it's not around in a lot of references. It absolutely is not more common than the use of the term to refer to groups of women who actually sew - like that marginalized group of Amish and Mennonites who continue to have regular sewing circles even today. Of course, they don't read online encyclopedias so they don't know that our project is suggesting their activity is a fun-filled afternoon of sexual frolicking. My feeling is that the article titled sewing circle should refer to needlework and this article renamed to sewing circles (lesbian groups) or something like that. Risker/Anne On 3 June 2013 03:32, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Where I expected to read about sewing circles and sewing bees... I get an article about lesbian/bisexual actresses secretly having relationships? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewing_circles The best part is I just linked it off of an article about Sarah Allen, the Founding Mother of the African Methodist Episcopal Church. I almost feel like I should remove the link until the article is improved. O_o O_o /FACEPALM -- -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist, open culture advocate, and Wikimedian* *www.sarahstierch.com* ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
