Re: [DISCUSSION] Incubating Proposal of Firestorm

2022-05-17 Thread Yu Li
Hi Jerry,

Good to see the proposal for incubating a uniform remote shuffle service.
Coincidently, we are preparing an incubating proposal for the same
direction based on two open source projects Alibaba is driving [1] [2], and
I'm the champion for that. Our proposal is still not fully prepared because
the merge of the two projects is still in progress, and I'm writing this
email to check whether it's possible that we have a joint force to achieve
the same goal. I believe it will be cool if we could do this together,
although there will be a lot (more) work to do to make this happen.

Please let me know your thoughts and let's have more discussions if you're
also interested. Thanks.

Best Regards,
Yu

[1] https://github.com/flink-extended/flink-remote-shuffle
[2] https://github.com/alibaba/RemoteShuffleService


On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 12:15, Jerry Shao  wrote:

> Sure Felix, let me add you to the list.
>
> Best,
> Jerry
>
> Felix Cheung  于2022年5月18日周三 11:59写道:
>
> > Same here, would love to see if I can help, Jerry.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:31 PM Saisai Shao 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Weiwei, let me add you to the mentor list.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > Weiwei Yang  于2022年5月17日周二 12:18写道:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > > This is an interesting project, I'd be happy to help the project's
> > > > incubation process.
> > > > Let me know if you need my help, Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:09 PM Saisai Shao 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Got it, thanks a lot Justin.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > Justin Mclean  于2022年5月17日周二 10:59写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The new project name doesn’t need to be a registered trademark,
> but
> > > you
> > > > > > would still need to pick a name that is now likely to have any
> > > > trademark
> > > > > > issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The project may want to get the ASF to register the mark at a
> later
> > > > date,
> > > > > > but it wold be best to talk abut that on the trademarks@ list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > Justin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Incubating Proposal of Firestorm

2022-05-17 Thread Jerry Shao
Sure Felix, let me add you to the list.

Best,
Jerry

Felix Cheung  于2022年5月18日周三 11:59写道:

> Same here, would love to see if I can help, Jerry.
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:31 PM Saisai Shao 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Weiwei, let me add you to the mentor list.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jerry
> >
> > Weiwei Yang  于2022年5月17日周二 12:18写道:
> >
> > > +1
> > > This is an interesting project, I'd be happy to help the project's
> > > incubation process.
> > > Let me know if you need my help, Thanks
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:09 PM Saisai Shao 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Got it, thanks a lot Justin.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > > Justin Mclean  于2022年5月17日周二 10:59写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > The new project name doesn’t need to be a registered trademark, but
> > you
> > > > > would still need to pick a name that is now likely to have any
> > > trademark
> > > > > issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > The project may want to get the ASF to register the mark at a later
> > > date,
> > > > > but it wold be best to talk abut that on the trademarks@ list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSSION] Incubating Proposal of Firestorm

2022-05-17 Thread Felix Cheung
Same here, would love to see if I can help, Jerry.


On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:31 PM Saisai Shao  wrote:

> Thanks Weiwei, let me add you to the mentor list.
>
> Best regards,
> Jerry
>
> Weiwei Yang  于2022年5月17日周二 12:18写道:
>
> > +1
> > This is an interesting project, I'd be happy to help the project's
> > incubation process.
> > Let me know if you need my help, Thanks
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:09 PM Saisai Shao 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Got it, thanks a lot Justin.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > Justin Mclean  于2022年5月17日周二 10:59写道:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The new project name doesn’t need to be a registered trademark, but
> you
> > > > would still need to pick a name that is now likely to have any
> > trademark
> > > > issues.
> > > >
> > > > The project may want to get the ASF to register the mark at a later
> > date,
> > > > but it wold be best to talk abut that on the trademarks@ list.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Incubating Proposal of Firestorm

2022-05-17 Thread Jerry Shao
Thanks Justin,

Let me talk to trademarks@ first.

Best,
Jerry

Justin Mclean  于2022年5月17日周二 21:12写道:

> Hi,
>
> I’d run that past trademarks@ mailing list. It might be like calling your
> fast food restaurant McDoogles and hoping no-one notices the name is
> similar to McDonalds.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Incubating Proposal of Firestorm

2022-05-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

I’d run that past trademarks@ mailing list. It might be like calling your fast 
food restaurant McDoogles and hoping no-one notices the name is similar to 
McDonalds.

Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Incubating Proposal of Firestorm

2022-05-17 Thread Jerry Shao
Hi,

We discussed internally and proposed a new name "flamestorm" as a
replacement.
If the community thinks this name "flamestorm" is OK, our proposal will go
with this new name.

Best regards,
Jerry


below is the search result for "flamestorm"
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Github:
Search for Flamestorm returns 0 results
https://github.com/search?q=flamestorm

SF.net:
Search for Flamestorm returns 0 results
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/freshness:recently-updated/?q=Flamestorm

openhub.net
Search for Flamestorm returns 0 results
https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=Flamestorm

Google code:
Search for Flamestorm returns 0 results
https://opensource.google/projects?q=flamestorm


USPTO:
There are no effective results, the first page results only contain keyword
'flame'
https://search.uspto.gov/search?affiliate=web-sdmg-uspto.gov_by==flamestorm
And I search for 'Flamestorm software' returns 0 result
https://search.uspto.gov/search?affiliate=web-sdmg-uspto.gov_by==framestorm+software

Trademarkia:
Search for Flamestorm returns 0 results
https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=flamestorm

EU Organization for Harmonization
Search for Flamestorm returns 0 results
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#basic/1+1+1+1/flamestorm

Google:
https://www.google.com/search?q=flamestorm
Bing:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=flamestorm
Yahoo
https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=flamestorm=1
Stackoverflow
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=flamestorm

There are no results about software

Saisai Shao  于2022年5月17日周二 13:31写道:

> Thanks Weiwei, let me add you to the mentor list.
>
> Best regards,
> Jerry
>
> Weiwei Yang  于2022年5月17日周二 12:18写道:
>
>> +1
>> This is an interesting project, I'd be happy to help the project's
>> incubation process.
>> Let me know if you need my help, Thanks
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:09 PM Saisai Shao 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Got it, thanks a lot Justin.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Jerry
>> >
>> > Justin Mclean  于2022年5月17日周二 10:59写道:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > The new project name doesn’t need to be a registered trademark, but
>> you
>> > > would still need to pick a name that is now likely to have any
>> trademark
>> > > issues.
>> > >
>> > > The project may want to get the ASF to register the mark at a later
>> date,
>> > > but it wold be best to talk abut that on the trademarks@ list.
>> > >
>> > > Kind Regards,
>> > > Justin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>


Re: Proposal

2022-05-17 Thread Michael Wechner
I agree, but I think we need to give some more concrete guidance how to 
develop an open community and develop in the open, because although it 
is clear to ASF people, I think it is often not so clear for many other 
people


@msacks: Did you already have a look at 
https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/ ?


HTH

Michael

Am 17.05.22 um 07:56 schrieb Dave Fisher:

Develop an open community and develop in the open. If the community starts to 
grow then come back and ask for guidance in how to make your open source 
community an ASF community.

Did I mention open and community enough?

All the best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone


On May 16, 2022, at 10:47 PM, m sacks  wrote:

Not sure if this made it:
Just a term of endearment, mot taken to be meant literally.

Sure.

Initially the community would be a private group put together by me.

Then we can discuss building it once others have decided if it’s even a
useful application first?


On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:20 PM Daniel Widdis  wrote:

I'm not an ASF warlord or general.  In fact, I don't think such things
exist. It's about community.  Decisions are made by communities.  Warlords,
generals, and benevolent dictators don't fit well.

Related, I don't see anything "community" in your post. You state "I" have
got code, not "we".

You can have the best code in the universe, but if you don't have a
community developing it, it's not really a good fit here.

So tell us less about your code and more about your community developing
it.


On 5/16/22, 10:05 PM, "m sacks"  wrote:

I have some gpt3 based python code to simulate leonardo da vinci as a
chatbot proof of concept. I think it could be useful, but i am not
sure, so
i leave it to the council of ASF warlords and generals to decide if the
code should be incubated?


I have not shared sources as of yet.






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