Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.
ralfconn wrote: > Il 16/05/24 20:46, Dale ha scritto: >> Question. How are the compiles times between the old FX-8350 and the >> newer Ryzen 9? I currently have a FX-8350. Plan to build to a new >> Ryzen something, maybe 5 at first. Just curious what difference in >> speed you see. > I've not saved the merge times for the 8350 so I'll only give you the > Ryzen 9 times, maybe you can compare with yours: > > # qlop -mav net-libs/webkit-gtk > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.44.1-r410: 41′22″ average for 1 merge > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.5-r410: 19′45″ average for 2 merges > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.4-r600: 47′39″ average for 1 merge > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.4-r410: 48′55″ average for 1 merge > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.3-r410: 21′09″ average for 1 merge > > # qlop -mav firefox > www-client/firefox-126.0: 31′35″ average for 1 merge > www-client/firefox-125.0.3: 13′29″ average for 1 merge > www-client/firefox-125.0.2: 12′42″ average for 1 merge > www-client/firefox-125.0.1: 30′18″ average for 1 merge > > The 2x or more difference in merge times I believe are due to the fact > that sometimes I build the bigger packages on their own to avoid > running out of memory, other times I don't so the load gets split > amongst various compilations and time stretches. I think firefox with > the 8350 was in the hours range, so I had switched to the -bin since > long time. > > I have 64Gb of RAM to account for the 12cpus/24threads. Even so I can > run out of memory if I try to build firefox+thunderbird+webkit-gtk at > the same time, so I often use the --exclude emerge option with these > behemoths. > > I've also had a Ryzen 7 5700X/32Gb for a short time, then I passed it > to my son and got me the 9. These are the merge times for the > webkit-gtk, I switched to non-bin firefox only with the 9: > > # qlop -mav net-libs/webkit-gtk > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.5-r410: 26′52″ average for 1 merge > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.4-r410: 25′16″ average for 1 merge > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.3-r410: 59′46″ average for 1 merge > net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.2-r410: 32′47″ average for 2 merges > > Not a huge difference compared to the 9, as foreseeable, after all > it's the exact same architecture with some more pepper. > > If you go for the Ryzen remember that its instruction set is not > compatible with the Athlon's so if you built your 8350 system with > e.g. -march=native (as I did) you need to recompile @world with a less > restrictive -march before moving the disk to the Ryzen system > otherwise it won't even boot. > > raf > > The only package I can compare to is Firefox. I don't have the other one. Still, it compiles Firefox a lot faster. It's a pretty good size difference in speed. Thanks for the info. Helps me know what to expect. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.
Il 16/05/24 20:46, Dale ha scritto: Question. How are the compiles times between the old FX-8350 and the newer Ryzen 9? I currently have a FX-8350. Plan to build to a new Ryzen something, maybe 5 at first. Just curious what difference in speed you see. I've not saved the merge times for the 8350 so I'll only give you the Ryzen 9 times, maybe you can compare with yours: # qlop -mav net-libs/webkit-gtk net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.44.1-r410: 41′22″ average for 1 merge net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.5-r410: 19′45″ average for 2 merges net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.4-r600: 47′39″ average for 1 merge net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.4-r410: 48′55″ average for 1 merge net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.42.3-r410: 21′09″ average for 1 merge # qlop -mav firefox www-client/firefox-126.0: 31′35″ average for 1 merge www-client/firefox-125.0.3: 13′29″ average for 1 merge www-client/firefox-125.0.2: 12′42″ average for 1 merge www-client/firefox-125.0.1: 30′18″ average for 1 merge The 2x or more difference in merge times I believe are due to the fact that sometimes I build the bigger packages on their own to avoid running out of memory, other times I don't so the load gets split amongst various compilations and time stretches. I think firefox with the 8350 was in the hours range, so I had switched to the -bin since long time. I have 64Gb of RAM to account for the 12cpus/24threads. Even so I can run out of memory if I try to build firefox+thunderbird+webkit-gtk at the same time, so I often use the --exclude emerge option with these behemoths. I've also had a Ryzen 7 5700X/32Gb for a short time, then I passed it to my son and got me the 9. These are the merge times for the webkit-gtk, I switched to non-bin firefox only with the 9: # qlop -mav net-libs/webkit-gtk net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.5-r410: 26′52″ average for 1 merge net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.4-r410: 25′16″ average for 1 merge net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.3-r410: 59′46″ average for 1 merge net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.40.2-r410: 32′47″ average for 2 merges Not a huge difference compared to the 9, as foreseeable, after all it's the exact same architecture with some more pepper. If you go for the Ryzen remember that its instruction set is not compatible with the Athlon's so if you built your 8350 system with e.g. -march=native (as I did) you need to recompile @world with a less restrictive -march before moving the disk to the Ryzen system otherwise it won't even boot. raf
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.
ralfconn wrote: > Il 15/05/24 16:23, Alan Mackenzie ha scritto: >> As a somewhat tangential question, would it be worthwhile getting water >> cooling in my new machine? In particular, to reduce the noise it gives >> off while building large packages such as clang and rust? Or is water >> cooling only sensible for really heavy users such as gamers? >> > For a Ryzen 9 5900X (105W TDP) here I use a Noctua CPU cooler NH-U12A > PWM plus a Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM on the case, a pretty expensive > solution and probably an overkill since even while building for Gentoo > @24 threads the noise is audible but a LOT less than the old FX-8350 > (125W TDP) with the stock Wraith cooler. During normal work it's > almost inaudibile. I don't play games. > > raf Question. How are the compiles times between the old FX-8350 and the newer Ryzen 9? I currently have a FX-8350. Plan to build to a new Ryzen something, maybe 5 at first. Just curious what difference in speed you see. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:41:20 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo > > > > > > ... > > > > There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI systems. > > The homepage returned by > >$ eix --verbose sys-boot/elilo >* sys-boot/elilo > Available versions: ~3.16-r5 > Homepage:https://sourceforge.net/projects/elilo/ > Description: Linux boot loader for EFI-based systems such as > IA-64 License: GPL-2 >$ > > hints that this package is no longer maintained ... :-( > > Sincerely, > Rainer Oh! I haven't ever used it, but recalled its name and found it on the tree. I suppose if it's stable and it works, it works whether maintained or not. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.
Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo > > > > ... > > There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI systems. The homepage returned by $ eix --verbose sys-boot/elilo * sys-boot/elilo Available versions: ~3.16-r5 Homepage:https://sourceforge.net/projects/elilo/ Description: Linux boot loader for EFI-based systems such as IA-64 License: GPL-2 $ hints that this package is no longer maintained ... :-( Sincerely, Rainer
Re: [gentoo-user] mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone
Walter, On Wednesday, 2024-05-15 17:28:46 -0400, you wrote: > What I *CAN* do... upload/download/create/delete *FILES* on SD card > > What I *CANNOT* do... create new *DIRECTORIES* on SD card > > [x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1] mkdir data > mkdir: cannot create directory ‘data’: Input/output error > > This happens with both "jmtps" and "simple-mtpfs", so I think it's > probably a systemic issue that affects all implementions. Though I also have "simple-mtpfs" installed I'm mostly using it with the SD cards mounted read-only. For "real" work I'm using "adb" provided by "dev-util/android-tools". Among many other things like pushing files to or pulling files from your mobile phone, it provides a "shell" sub-com- mand which allows executing a single shell command on the mobile device or opening a shell on it for issuing more commands in a row: $ adb shell herolte:/ $ cd /storage/emulated/0 herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ ls -ld . drwxrwx--x 27 root sdcard_rw 4096 2024-05-16 08:01 . herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ touch xxx herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ ls -l xxx -rw-rw 1 root sdcard_rw 0 2024-05-16 16:13 xxx herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ mkdir yyy herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ ls -ld yyy drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 4096 2024-05-16 16:13 yyy herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ rmdir yyy herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ rm xxx herolte:/storage/emulated/0 $ cd /storage/5BC5-805B herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ ls -ld . drwxrwx--x 7 root sdcard_rw 32768 2024-02-21 20:20 . herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ touch xxx herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ ls -l xxx -rwxrwx--x 1 root sdcard_rw 0 2024-05-16 16:14 xxx herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ mkdir yyy herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ ls -ld yyy drwxrwx--x 2 root sdcard_rw 32768 2024-05-16 16:15 yyy herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ rmdir yyy herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ rm xxx herolte:/storage/5BC5-805B $ exit Three additional remarks: - The mobile phone is not required to be rooted. - But to get "adb" working requires "USB Debugging" to be enabled on the mobile device. On your mobile device this option can be found under "Settings -> Developer Options" (if the "Developer Options" are still hidden in the "Settings" menu, make them visible once and forever by opening "Settings -> About Device -> Software Information" and tapping "Build Number" seven times). - For security reasons (for instance when charging your phone at a pub- lic charging station) you should only enable "USB Debugging" on your own phone while connecting it with your own computer for file transfer or similar work. Sincerely, Rainer
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.
Il 15/05/24 16:23, Alan Mackenzie ha scritto: As a somewhat tangential question, would it be worthwhile getting water cooling in my new machine? In particular, to reduce the noise it gives off while building large packages such as clang and rust? Or is water cooling only sensible for really heavy users such as gamers? For a Ryzen 9 5900X (105W TDP) here I use a Noctua CPU cooler NH-U12A PWM plus a Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM on the case, a pretty expensive solution and probably an overkill since even while building for Gentoo @24 threads the noise is audible but a LOT less than the old FX-8350 (125W TDP) with the stock Wraith cooler. During normal work it's almost inaudibile. I don't play games. raf
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:42:16AM +0100, Nuno Silva wrote
> Did anything change? Any tablet software upgrade? Did the MTP tool on
> the computer side change? Or perhaps the kernel, if it can influence
> this FUSE interaction somehow?
Just the usual updates to world.
> At this point I'd consider testing with known good versions if possible
> (those that can run chown without that error).
There are no "known good versions".
> Is mkdir something that used to work too?
I did some more dicking around, and it gets "curiouser and curiouser".
I mount the phone on /home/waltdnes/tablet then...
cd sdcard1
mkdir subdir
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘subdir’: Input/output error
This happens even as root.. *BUT* even as a regular user I can
"cd /home/waltdnes/tablet/screenshots" and create+delete subdirectories
as well as files. To summarize, I can do what I want in the "DCIM" and
"screenshots" subdirectories ("ownership" notwithstanding), but not in
the top-level "sdcard1" directory
===
[x8940][waltdnes][~] tabon
Device 0 (VID=1bbb and PID=f003) is a Alcatel OneTouch 6034R.
Android device detected, assigning default bug flags
[x8940][waltdnes][~] cd /home/waltdnes/tablet
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet] ll
total 24
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 Dec 31 1969 .
drwxr-xr-x 144 waltdnes users 24576 May 16 10:40 ..
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 Aug 30 4438198 sdcard
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 0 Jun 21 4438201 sdcard1
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet] cd sdcard1
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1] ll
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 0 Jun 21 4438201 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 Dec 31 1969 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Oct 10 2033 DCIM
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 May 18 1950 LOST.DIR
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Sep 25 2019 screenshots
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Aug 19 1950 wlan_logs
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1] cd screenshots/
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1/screenshots] ll
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 Sep 25 2019 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root0 Jun 21 4438201 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21669139 Aug 8 1934 walter.pdf
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1/screenshots] mkdir subdir
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1/screenshots] ll
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root0 Sep 25 2019 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 Dec 31 1969 subdir
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21669139 Aug 8 1934 walter.pdf
[x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1/screenshots] cd
[x8940][waltdnes][~] taboff
===
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 10:42:16 BST Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-05-16, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote > > > >> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to > >> do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to > >> root, create a directory at the top level, change it so that I own it and > >> have rwx permissions, and then exit root. After that I can do what I > >> want. > >> > > I have a short script ~/bin/tabon > > > > [x8940][waltdnes][~] cat bin/tabon > > #!/bin/bash > > sudo /usr/bin/jmtpfs /home/waltdnes/tablet -o allow_other,auto_unmount,rw > > # > > # Only needed once > > #sudo /bin/chown -R waltdnes:users /home/waltdnes/tablet > > > > The last (commented out) line *USED TO WORK*. Now it spits out a > > > > whole slew of... > > > > /bin/chown: changing ownership of > > '/home/waltdnes/tablet/sdcard1/blah_blah_blah': Function not implemented > > > > ...one for each direcory and file. I believe the phone formats the card > > as either FAT32 or XFAT. > > Did anything change? Any tablet software upgrade? Did the MTP tool on > the computer side change? Or perhaps the kernel, if it can influence > this FUSE interaction somehow? > > At this point I'd consider testing with known good versions if possible > (those that can run chown without that error). Is mkdir something that > used to work too? > > The "Function not implemented" looks off for something that used to work > before. (Or was it failing silently before? If this is FAT* or exFAT, > wouldn't ownership be a thing for the FUSE tool to set itself? Or does > exFAT have the concept of ownership?) FAT/exFAT do not support filesystem level user permissions and consequently you would get a "Function not implemented" error with chown. When a USB device with a FAT/exFAT fs, is mounted with udisksctl they show up as: $ lsblk -o PATH,TYPE,FSTYPE,OWNER,GROUP,MODE,MOUNTPOINT /dev/sdb1 PATH TYPE FSTYPE OWNER GROUP MODE MOUNTPOINT /dev/sdb1 part vfat root disk brw-rw /run/media/michael/CRUCIAL-8G and the fs is mounted with the sticky bit so it writeable by the user: $ ls -la /run/media/michael/CRUCIAL-8G/ total 2500976 drwxr-xr-x 2 michael michael 16384 Jan 1 1970 . drwxr-x---+ 3 rootroot60 May 16 15:52 .. exFAT looks the same if you have enabled the exFAT kernel driver, as opposed to using FUSE. I don't have a device using MTP here to check how it is mounted over FUSE, but FUSE is meant to mount a device with the permissions of the user who mounts it AND the user can only mount on a mountpoint for which they have write permission. However, there is a kernel bug if the default_permissions mount option has not been used, whereby results of the first permission check performed by the file system for a directory entry are cached and reused - even if the permissions have since changed - see here: https://github.com/libfuse/libfuse I do remember having some trouble creating directories on an SD card in a GARMIN GPS device. I had to remove it and mount it on Linux to be able to work on it, but can't recall the details. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 11:13:31 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, May 15, 2024 at 07:08:11PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > > Hi Alan, > > > > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:23:47 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hello, Gentoo. > > > […] > > > So I'm looking at getting an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X processor, and using its > > > inbuilt graphics rather than buying a distinct graphics card. > > > > […] > > > > > As a somewhat tangential question, would it be worthwhile getting water > > > cooling in my new machine? In particular, to reduce the noise it gives > > > off while building large packages such as clang and rust? Or is water > > > cooling only sensible for really heavy users such as gamers? > > > > > > Thanks for the upcoming answers! > > > > WC will be quieter and more expensive than an after market air cooler. > > Are you sure about the noise? First there is the water pump and second, > the heat from the air cycle needs to get somewhere, which is donw with fans. > So unless you get a big radiator with several fans, you just relocate the > fan noise inside the case. Unless faulty a WC pump is inaudible. A radiator with two 140mm fans will just tick over, even under heavy load and overclocked, while I've see AC fans spin above 1200 RPM. Either way, I think there's more noise coming out of case fans than the CPU's AC, which is in the guts of the case. Another way to think about it, the liquid cooling medium can absorb more heat until it is saturated enough to start spinning higher the 2 or 3 radiator fans, which are typically larger than AC fan(s). There's also a question of just buying an AIO cooler, or some custom oversized build which will be on a different level of performance (and cost). > I have a 10 years old i5 with a TDP of I think 84 W. On that sits a normal > (not even high-performance) tower cooler with a single 120 mm fan. At full > load the CPU draws around 50 W, maybe even less unless you do prime95. So my > cooler is basically overkill. But this allows the fan to never leave the > minimum RPM range of ~500…600 1/min and is unaudible even at full load. Yes, at these RPMs it will be very quiet, but I expect your new CPU will spin its AC faster when under load. > However … > > > You could invest the money toward more RAM, (more/bigger) case fans, a > > better PSU, monitor, speakers, a new car, etc. :-) > > > > https://www.techreviewer.com/tech-specs/amd-7700x-tdp/ > > > > Cranking up 16 threads to 5.4 GHz will produce some heat, but compiles > > will > > complete sooner too. > > … the 7000X are hotheads, because they operate way above the efficiency > sweetspot just to get the longest bar in benchmark diagrams. If you reduce > the power target¹ in the BIOS, you lose a few percent in performance, but > get a disproportionately bigger reduction in energy consumption. > > ¹ The TDP of a 7700X is 105 W. The maximum permanent power draw is TDP * 1.4 > (ish, can’t remember the exact details right now). So if you reduce the > target to 84 W, you draw a little over 100 W. That’s easy-peasy for a > mormal 120 mm tower cooler. One additional advantage of an air cooler is > that it also blows air over your mainboard and its power stages. That’s > something you don’t get with a water loop and need an extra case fan for—IF > you keep the CPU on high load all the time which causes more heat buildup > in the VRMs. As you say, an AC can also draw air at close proximity over the RAM modules and VRMs compared to the more diffused airflow of case fan(s), which is an additional benefit. If you will tune down the CPU, as opposed to O/C it, then I think an air cooler will be more than adequate and represent more bang for your buck. I came across this video, but more detailed reviews and tests should be available for your specific CPU in the interwebs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxf4ZXJTNpI signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.
Am Wed, May 15, 2024 at 07:08:11PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > Hi Alan, > > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:23:47 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > […] > > So I'm looking at getting an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X processor, and using its > > inbuilt graphics rather than buying a distinct graphics card. > > > […] > > As a somewhat tangential question, would it be worthwhile getting water > > cooling in my new machine? In particular, to reduce the noise it gives > > off while building large packages such as clang and rust? Or is water > > cooling only sensible for really heavy users such as gamers? > > > > Thanks for the upcoming answers! > > WC will be quieter and more expensive than an after market air cooler. Are you sure about the noise? First there is the water pump and second, the heat from the air cycle needs to get somewhere, which is donw with fans. So unless you get a big radiator with several fans, you just relocate the fan noise inside the case. I have a 10 years old i5 with a TDP of I think 84 W. On that sits a normal (not even high-performance) tower cooler with a single 120 mm fan. At full load the CPU draws around 50 W, maybe even less unless you do prime95. So my cooler is basically overkill. But this allows the fan to never leave the minimum RPM range of ~500…600 1/min and is unaudible even at full load. However … > You could invest the money toward more RAM, (more/bigger) case fans, a > better PSU, monitor, speakers, a new car, etc. :-) > > https://www.techreviewer.com/tech-specs/amd-7700x-tdp/ > > Cranking up 16 threads to 5.4 GHz will produce some heat, but compiles will > complete sooner too. … the 7000X are hotheads, because they operate way above the efficiency sweetspot just to get the longest bar in benchmark diagrams. If you reduce the power target¹ in the BIOS, you lose a few percent in performance, but get a disproportionately bigger reduction in energy consumption. ¹ The TDP of a 7700X is 105 W. The maximum permanent power draw is TDP * 1.4 (ish, can’t remember the exact details right now). So if you reduce the target to 84 W, you draw a little over 100 W. That’s easy-peasy for a mormal 120 mm tower cooler. One additional advantage of an air cooler is that it also blows air over your mainboard and its power stages. That’s something you don’t get with a water loop and need an extra case fan for—IF you keep the CPU on high load all the time which causes more heat buildup in the VRMs. -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. The perfect diet: no breakfast in the morning, in return forego pudding at lunch and then go to bed without dinner. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone
On 2024-05-16, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote >> >> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to >> do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to >> root, create a directory at the top level, change it so that I own it and >> have rwx permissions, and then exit root. After that I can do what I want. > > I have a short script ~/bin/tabon > > [x8940][waltdnes][~] cat bin/tabon > #!/bin/bash > sudo /usr/bin/jmtpfs /home/waltdnes/tablet -o allow_other,auto_unmount,rw > # > # Only needed once > #sudo /bin/chown -R waltdnes:users /home/waltdnes/tablet > > The last (commented out) line *USED TO WORK*. Now it spits out a > whole slew of... > > /bin/chown: changing ownership of > '/home/waltdnes/tablet/sdcard1/blah_blah_blah': Function not implemented > > ...one for each direcory and file. I believe the phone formats the card > as either FAT32 or XFAT. Did anything change? Any tablet software upgrade? Did the MTP tool on the computer side change? Or perhaps the kernel, if it can influence this FUSE interaction somehow? At this point I'd consider testing with known good versions if possible (those that can run chown without that error). Is mkdir something that used to work too? The "Function not implemented" looks off for something that used to work before. (Or was it failing silently before? If this is FAT* or exFAT, wouldn't ownership be a thing for the FUSE tool to set itself? Or does exFAT have the concept of ownership?) -- Nuno Silva
[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.
On 2024-05-16, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Wol: >> > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. ð Anyway, I >> > > never let it near my systems. >> > >> > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( >> >> ... >> >> Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: >> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo >> >> Regards, >> /Karl Hammar > > There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI systems. What about grub as in "grub1" or grub0.xx for PC BIOS, is it still available (outside the main tree?) and working e.g. with patches, or is there some unsolved compilation issue nowadays? -- Nuno Silva
Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.
On Wed, 15 May 2024 20:55:53 -0500, Dale wrote: > > xclip is not a clipboard, it is a tool to manage the contents of the > > existing clipboards and selection buffers. > > > > > > > Well, just for giggles. > > root@fireball / # echo "" | xclip > -bash: xclip: command not found > root@fireball / # > > It didn't like it. :/ You missed out the important first step: $ emerge -a xclip :-( -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 683: Time out error - Operator fell asleep while waiting for the system to complete boot procedure. pgp4EEaRUWqz5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Wol: > > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. ð Anyway, I > > > never let it near my systems. > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo > > Regards, > /Karl Hammar There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI systems. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
