RE: [commit: ghc] master: Testsuite: recenter haddock.base allocation numbers (1b76997)

2015-07-23 Thread Simon Peyton Jones
OK, so I won't lose sleep over it!

|  -Original Message-
|  From: ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of
|  Mateusz Kowalczyk
|  Sent: 23 July 2015 09:07
|  To: ghc-devs@haskell.org
|  Subject: Re: [commit: ghc] master: Testsuite: recenter haddock.base
|  allocation numbers (1b76997)
|  
|  On 07/22/2015 05:35 PM, Simon Peyton Jones wrote:
|   Could it be creeping up because Haddock is doing more than before?
|  Ie not just because GHC is being bad?
|  
|   S
|  
|  Yes, it very much could be. Haddock is a moving target so it's not too
|  weird that the numbers change. I want to say that the perf test should
|  just be removed but it's still useful: if you're GHC hacking and not
|  changing Haddock and numbers go awry then it serves its purpose.
|  
|  Ideally GHC would have more perf tests so the Haddock perf test is
|  just not necessary but it's not easy to tell when that would be.
|  
|  
|   |  -Original Message-
|   |  From: ghc-commits [mailto:ghc-commits-boun...@haskell.org] On
|   | Behalf  Of g...@git.haskell.org
|   |  Sent: 22 July 2015 17:33
|   |  To: ghc-comm...@haskell.org
|   |  Subject: [commit: ghc] master: Testsuite: recenter haddock.base
|   | allocation numbers (1b76997)
|   |
|   |  Repository : ssh://g...@git.haskell.org/ghc
|   |
|   |  On branch  : master
|   |  Link   :
|   |
|   |
|  http://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/changeset/1b76997dba5c35ee956960e194
|   | 8e
|   |  e247dc57c500/ghc
|   |
|   |  ---
|   |
|   |  commit 1b76997dba5c35ee956960e1948ee247dc57c500
|   |  Author: Thomas Miedema thomasmied...@gmail.com
|   |  Date:   Wed Jul 22 18:21:44 2015 +0200
|   |
|   |  Testsuite: recenter haddock.base allocation numbers
|   |
|   |
|   |  ---
|   |
|   |  1b76997dba5c35ee956960e1948ee247dc57c500
|   |   testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T | 3 ++-
|   |   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
|   |
|   |  diff --git a/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
|   |  b/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
|   |  index 94f7cbd..1e5a16c 100644
|   |  --- a/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
|   |  +++ b/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
|   |  @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
|   |   test('haddock.base',
|   |[unless(in_tree_compiler(), skip), req_haddock
|   |,stats_num_field('bytes allocated',
|   |  -  [(wordsize(64), 9014511528,  5)
|   |  +  [(wordsize(64), 9418857192, 5)
|   |   # 2012-08-14: 5920822352 (amd64/Linux)
|   |   # 2012-09-20: 5829972376 (amd64/Linux)
|   |   # 2012-10-08: 5902601224 (amd64/Linux) @@ -23,6
|  +23,7
|   | @@  test('haddock.base',
|   |   # 2014-10-07: 8322584616 (x86_64/Linux)
|   |   # 2014-12-14: 9502647104 (x86_64/Linux) - Update to
|   | Haddock 2.16
|   |   # 2014-01-08: 9014511528 (x86_64/Linux) - Eliminate
|   | so-  called silent superclass parameters (and others)
|   |  +# 2015-07-22: 9418857192 (x86_64/Linux) - Just
|  slowly
|   |  creeping up.
|   |
|   | ,(platform('i386-unknown-mingw32'), 4434804940, 5)
|   |   # 2013-02-10: 3358693084
|   |  (x86/Windows)
|   |
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Re: Improving the Get Haskell Experience

2015-07-23 Thread Michael Snoyman
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 1:15 AM Heinrich Apfelmus apfel...@quantentunnel.de
wrote:

 Mark Lentczner wrote:
  *tl;dr: We'd like to incorporate stack into Haskell Platform, and stop
  shipping pre-built packages, so we banish cabal hell, and have a single
  common way to 'get Haskell' that just works.*
 
  [..]
 
  We think this plan solves many different community needs:
 
 - We have a clear way to get Haskell that works for a wide variety
 of
 use cases.
 - HP installer gets much smaller, and about as minimal as a working
 installation can get.
 - By leaving most packages out of the global database, users of
 cabal-install, will now have far fewer problems. Sandbox builds
 should now
 never give users cabal hell like warnings.
 - By building and installing the Platform packages into it's own
 package
 db, users get the benefit of building and installing these common
 packages
 only once per system, yet can easily bypass them for any given
 project if
 desired.
 - Since the Platform packages are now built and installed as needed,
 installing on smaller systems or servers without OpenGL will work.

 Sounds great to me! Personally, I do not mind how the Haskell Platform
 achieves these goals; I will simply adapt to whatever tools the platform
 happens to install on my machine.

 Hopefully, they come with suitable documentation. For instance, one
 thing I don't understand about  stack  yet is in which location it
 magically installs GHC and packages, and how I can invoke `ghci` from
 these locations. Somehow, I was unable to understand this from the FAQ.




I think this FAQ entry should help[1] on the first question:

 Note that stack setup installs GHC into
~/.stack/programs/$platform/ghc-$version/ and not a global location.

For the second question: either `stack ghci` or `stack exec ghci` should
achieve what you're looking for. The former is a bit more experimental, and
does more intelligent stuff at the project level as far as loading up your
code. The latter simply runs the ghci command with appropriate PATH and
GHC_PACKAGE_PATH environment variables set.

[1]
https://github.com/commercialhaskell/stack/wiki/FAQ#i-already-have-ghc-installed-can-i-still-use-stack
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Re: [commit: ghc] master: Testsuite: recenter haddock.base allocation numbers (1b76997)

2015-07-23 Thread Mateusz Kowalczyk
On 07/22/2015 05:35 PM, Simon Peyton Jones wrote:
 Could it be creeping up because Haddock is doing more than before?  Ie not 
 just because GHC is being bad?
 
 S

Yes, it very much could be. Haddock is a moving target so it's not too
weird that the numbers change. I want to say that the perf test should
just be removed but it's still useful: if you're GHC hacking and not
changing Haddock and numbers go awry then it serves its purpose.

Ideally GHC would have more perf tests so the Haddock perf test is just
not necessary but it's not easy to tell when that would be.


 |  -Original Message-
 |  From: ghc-commits [mailto:ghc-commits-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf
 |  Of g...@git.haskell.org
 |  Sent: 22 July 2015 17:33
 |  To: ghc-comm...@haskell.org
 |  Subject: [commit: ghc] master: Testsuite: recenter haddock.base
 |  allocation numbers (1b76997)
 |  
 |  Repository : ssh://g...@git.haskell.org/ghc
 |  
 |  On branch  : master
 |  Link   :
 |  http://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/changeset/1b76997dba5c35ee956960e1948e
 |  e247dc57c500/ghc
 |  
 |  ---
 |  
 |  commit 1b76997dba5c35ee956960e1948ee247dc57c500
 |  Author: Thomas Miedema thomasmied...@gmail.com
 |  Date:   Wed Jul 22 18:21:44 2015 +0200
 |  
 |  Testsuite: recenter haddock.base allocation numbers
 |  
 |  
 |  ---
 |  
 |  1b76997dba5c35ee956960e1948ee247dc57c500
 |   testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T | 3 ++-
 |   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
 |  
 |  diff --git a/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
 |  b/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
 |  index 94f7cbd..1e5a16c 100644
 |  --- a/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
 |  +++ b/testsuite/tests/perf/haddock/all.T
 |  @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 |   test('haddock.base',
 |[unless(in_tree_compiler(), skip), req_haddock
 |,stats_num_field('bytes allocated',
 |  -  [(wordsize(64), 9014511528,  5)
 |  +  [(wordsize(64), 9418857192, 5)
 |   # 2012-08-14: 5920822352 (amd64/Linux)
 |   # 2012-09-20: 5829972376 (amd64/Linux)
 |   # 2012-10-08: 5902601224 (amd64/Linux) @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
 |  test('haddock.base',
 |   # 2014-10-07: 8322584616 (x86_64/Linux)
 |   # 2014-12-14: 9502647104 (x86_64/Linux) - Update to
 |  Haddock 2.16
 |   # 2014-01-08: 9014511528 (x86_64/Linux) - Eliminate so-
 |  called silent superclass parameters (and others)
 |  +# 2015-07-22: 9418857192 (x86_64/Linux) - Just slowly
 |  creeping up.
 |  
 | ,(platform('i386-unknown-mingw32'), 4434804940, 5)
 |   # 2013-02-10: 3358693084
 |  (x86/Windows)
 |  
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