Re: Document Update Instructions have been revised

[David T. via gnucash-devel]

 
 
  On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 8:26, John Ralls wrote:
Indeed. But you don't need all of it, just the command-line tools.
Regards,John Ralls


I'm not sure you can get one without first getting the other. At least, I 
haven't been able to.   
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Re: Documentation Update Instructions

[David T. via gnucash-devel]

Chris, 
I explained my reasoning behind that on the other thread. 

 
 
  On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:00, Chris Good wrote:   
Hi David,

  

Re 
http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation_Update_Instructions#Step_1_Create_a_Bugzilla_Bug_for_the_Documentation_Change

  

I think you should leave in the info about using version “git-master” when 
updating documentation that will only apply to the next stable series.

  

Regards, Chris Good

  
  
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Re: Document Update Instructions have been revised

[John Ralls]

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:53 PM, David T.  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 6:57 AM, John Ralls > > wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Chris Good >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> David,
>>> 
>>> I don't remember seeing a response from you about if Mac OSX has 'make' by 
>>> default. Did I miss something? I don't want to hassle you - I see you have 
>>> been quite busy :-).
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Translation isn't the same between the program and documentation: Only the 
>> Italian documentation translations (i.e. help and the guide) use po files. 
>> The other translations are rewrites of the documentation in their respective 
>> languages.
>> 
>> MacOS does provide make, but only if you install Xcode or the Xcode 
>> "command-line tools". If the latter aren't installed trying to use any of 
>> the tools, including make, will result in a dialog box offering to install 
>> them for you.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
> 
> I will only add to John’s comments to note that Xcode is in my experience not 
> a normal, average Mac user piece of software—and that the latest version 
> weighs in at 4.5Gb, which can be a bear to get if your connection is slow or 
> hinky. 

Indeed. But you don't need all of it, just the command-line tools.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: Depreciation Chapter in the Guide

[David T. via gnucash-devel]

Frank, 
I found the thread I was thinking of, but I had remembered it backward. In an 
October discussion about capital gains, John wondered about deleting the 
capital gains chapter, since the information there was not useful. He mentioned 
the depreciation chapter as one reason why the cap gains chapter could be 
deleted. 
My apologies. 
David
P.s. I'll take your word about the subprime crisis. 
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 2:25, Frank H. 
Ellenberger wrote:   Hi David,

Am 23.01.2017 um 18:23 schrieb David T. via gnucash-devel:
> Hello,
> 
> Just revisiting bug 687820, and trying to update the overall roadmap
> to 2017. ISTR at one point John suggesting that the chapter on
> Depreciation (chapter 20) would be better off scrapped. I wanted to
> check whether that sentiment is generally held, or whether it should
> remain.
> 
> David

where, please?

I am absolutly against removing it. It is a fundamental accounting
technic and it should be explained how to do it in GnuCash.

Currently I see at least 2 important use cases:

In DE the smallest selfemployed has to depraciate his Laptop over 3
years, his car over 5 years, in short every asset valued over ~100€.

When you track the value of your real estate and the related mortgage,
you can handle a situation like the subprime crisis much better. You
could see the danger much earlier.

~Frank

  
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Re: Bugzilla reference to SVN

[John Ralls]

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Chris Good  wrote:
> 
> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/QA/BugzillaAdministration#Version_and_Target_Mi
> lestone
> 
> says:
> 
> 
> 
> For enhancement requests, this can be different: usually it is not necessary
> to know the reporter's version anymore. In that case it should be set to
> "SVN" as long as SVN doesn't have this feature. However, there might be
> exceptions to this rule, in which case we should leave the Version field to
> the reporter's version.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Should "SVN" be changed to "git-master"?

Chris,

Yes.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: Document Update Instructions have been revised

[John Ralls]

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Chris Good  wrote:
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Frank H. Ellenberger [mailto:frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com 
>> ]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2017 10:32 AM
>> To: Chris Good > >; 'David T.'
>> >
>> Cc: 'GnuCash Developers' > >
>> Subject: Re: Document Update Instructions have been revised
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Am 23.01.2017 um 23:33 schrieb Chris Good:
>>> Developers are less likely to be confused by jumping around the wiki than
>> potential documenters.
>> 
>> But from my POV the weakest affected group are the translators as they are
>> usually no native english speakers.
>> 
>> Should we really move it to Translation and link the other pages? ;-)
>> 
>> Yes, currently Build_System is a stub - more or less a reminder "we could
>> explain it here in detail and link the other places":
>> * Building* (Techies),
>> * Document* (Docu writers, mostly native speakers) and
>> * Translation (foreign writers)
>> 
>> Regards
>> Frank
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> It seems to me implementing a translation can, if done properly, require more 
> technical skill than documenting, but if you wish to move it to Translation 
> and link the other pages, that's OK by me.
> It would be good if it is made really clear that it applies to both gnucash 
> and gnucash-docs repos.
> 
> David,
> 
> I don't remember seeing a response from you about if Mac OSX has 'make' by 
> default. Did I miss something? I don't want to hassle you - I see you have 
> been quite busy :-).

Chris,

Translation isn't the same between the program and documentation: Only the 
Italian documentation translations (i.e. help and the guide) use po files. The 
other translations are rewrites of the documentation in their respective 
languages.

MacOS does provide make, but only if you install Xcode or the Xcode 
"command-line tools". If the latter aren't installed trying to use any of the 
tools, including make, will result in a dialog box offering to install them for 
you.

Regards,
John Ralls



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RE: Document Update Instructions have been revised

[Chris Good]

> -Original Message-
> From: Frank H. Ellenberger [mailto:frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2017 10:32 AM
> To: Chris Good ; 'David T.'
> 
> Cc: 'GnuCash Developers' 
> Subject: Re: Document Update Instructions have been revised
>
> Hi,
>
> Am 23.01.2017 um 23:33 schrieb Chris Good:
> > Developers are less likely to be confused by jumping around the wiki than
> potential documenters.
>
> But from my POV the weakest affected group are the translators as they are
> usually no native english speakers.
>
> Should we really move it to Translation and link the other pages? ;-)
>
> Yes, currently Build_System is a stub - more or less a reminder "we could
> explain it here in detail and link the other places":
> * Building* (Techies),
> * Document* (Docu writers, mostly native speakers) and
> * Translation (foreign writers)
>
> Regards
> Frank

Hi Frank,

It seems to me implementing a translation can, if done properly, require more 
technical skill than documenting, but if you wish to move it to Translation 
and link the other pages, that's OK by me.
It would be good if it is made really clear that it applies to both gnucash 
and gnucash-docs repos.

David,

I don't remember seeing a response from you about if Mac OSX has 'make' by 
default. Did I miss something? I don't want to hassle you - I see you have 
been quite busy :-).

Regards, Chris Good


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Bugzilla reference to SVN

[Chris Good]

http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/QA/BugzillaAdministration#Version_and_Target_Mi
lestone

says:

 

For enhancement requests, this can be different: usually it is not necessary
to know the reporter's version anymore. In that case it should be set to
"SVN" as long as SVN doesn't have this feature. However, there might be
exceptions to this rule, in which case we should leave the Version field to
the reporter's version.

 

 

Should "SVN" be changed to "git-master"?

 

Regards, Chris Good

 



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