Re: [GNC-dev] Import PDF to GnuCash

2018-07-27 Thread David Cousens
deltatango,

How does Quickbooks use the imported information from a statement? The only
normal use I can think of is reconciliation of the account. For importing
information I by far prefer OFX with csv as a fallback for those
institutions which don't provide OFX files (Paypal is  a standout here). For
reconciliation, I usually prefer a printed copy so I can tick transactions
off as I reconcile them in GnuCash. I have used spreadsheets as well to mark
off reconciled transactions where the statement was available in csv.

David



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Re: [GNC-dev] Import PDF to GnuCash

2018-07-27 Thread jeffrey black
On 7/26/2018 2:56 PM, deltatango wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Very interested in the possibility of importing PDF statements into GnuCash.
>
> I know Quickbooks now has this functionality.
>
> I searched online and found a few clunky possibilities that would convert
> the data into excel which can then be converted to csv and then imported
> into GnuCash.
>
> I was envisioning a system where you select a PDF statement to be imported.
>
> The program then asks you to select the area of the statement which contains
> the transactions, much like a photoshop selection. (And perhaps you could
> save templates of selections for different statements).
>
> Then some kind of OCR scanning reads the columns and data and convert it to
> columns/rows.
>
> Is this in the realm of possibility for some future release?
>
> It is so common now that exporting csv or qfx ,etc files from your bank only
> go so far back and you have to download PDFs instead...
>
> I dream, I hope...
>
> But in vain I wish not...
>
>
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I don't think this is an option with PDF files in the near future.  
Adobe has gone to great effort to make sure that all of the user 
friendly features of PDF reader are now a paid feature. Quickbook$ can 
afford to add this feature because of the high fees they charge you for 
"improvements and features".

As Jim DeLaHunt mentioned you might find some AI/Auto-learning software 
to convert it to a usable format, though I wouldn't hold my breath at 
this time.

Right now, the only suggestion I can offer, other than finding another 
type of input file, is to print the PDF and then scan it with OCR 
software so you can try to extract the information you are after.

--JEffrey Black M.B.A.
  

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Re: [GNC-dev] New balsheet (and P report), API considerations, and (slow?) KVP in Account.cpp

2018-07-27 Thread Christopher Lam

Latest iteration of balsheet

 * restored amount-indenting. IMHO this is now producing sane indenting
   for any subtotal strategy
 * restore dual columns (i.e. left=asset/income, right=liability/expense)
 * the above two only enabled when multicols are disabled
 * option to toggle amount/account indenting
 * incorporated bug 623381 recommendations for sections labels/totals
 * added sections for equity, liability+equity
 * modify 'original-currency' display to match eguile report i.e.
   smaller font, precedes converted currency

I would really like feedback on

 * accuracy of amounts
 * accuracy of sections
 o further tweaking of option names/sections/ordering

Screenshot:
https://screenshots.firefox.com/nhaiX1ehSA2GXA97/null

On 25/07/18 15:53, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote:

Am 19.07.2018 um 13:09 schrieb Christopher Lam:

Hi Frank
Thank you - I can restore the dual-columns when the periods have been
disabled.
I'd prefer to limit the number of options; so, if the "period duration" is
disabled, the report will automatically show dual columns

while intl. IFRS and DE-GOB/HGB reqire one, US-GAAP requires 3 previous
years in the Income statement.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewinn-_und_Verlustrechnung#Vorjahresbetr%C3%A4ge


(Asset/Income=left, Liability+Equity/Expense = right). This works?
Can you please show me good examples of idealised T-account balance
sheet/income statement? Or the scaled form? I have no idea.

To get an impression you could starting from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_sheet - which has
#US_small_business in account form and #Sample in scaled form -
or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_statement and an example in account
form: https://debitoor.de/lexikon/gewinn-und-verlustrechnung-guv

Note: There are several different methods for grouping the positions
with differrent pros and cons allowed for different company types:
Gesamtkostenverfahren, Umsatzkostenverfahren & IFRS. Currently I have no
better idea for the grouping than adjusting the account structure.

Optionally select other languages e.g.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilanz#Aufbau_der_Bilanz

HTH
Frank




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