Re: [GNC-dev] ImpEx Sample files
Hi David, for simple samples you could ask on the user list, for full featured test files read the specs or dig in https://github.com/aqbanking/aqbanking . At least I don't know good examples. Frank Am 20.09.18 um 00:46 schrieb David Cousens: > Frank, > > I too had a look around and couldn't find any sample/test files but I had > found the SWIFT and DTAUS. I am surprised the > maintainers of the standards don't generate them to allow testing for > compliance. If absolutely necessary I will > generate my own. I'm reluctant to produce my own as there is no guarantee > that they will conform but anything is better > than nothin. I guess there is a lot of work in defining a sample file which > tests all possible nuances of a given > formatand particularly so when there is continuing development > > Thanks for the information on the set of sample files.I'll check them out and > add any I do manage to find. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] ImpEx Sample files
Frank, I too had a look around and couldn't find any sample/test files but I had found the SWIFT and DTAUS. I am surprised the maintainers of the standards don't generate them to allow testing for compliance. If absolutely necessary I will generate my own. I'm reluctant to produce my own as there is no guarantee that they will conform but anything is better than nothin. I guess there is a lot of work in defining a sample file which tests all possible nuances of a given formatand particularly so when there is continuing development Thanks for the information on the set of sample files.I'll check them out and add any I do manage to find. On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 17:46 +0200, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: > Am 18.09.18 um 15:00 schrieb David Cousens: > > One problem I will have is getting sample files for the MT940, MT942 and > > DTAUS formats so I can run through the > > interfaces. I have a friend who was a manager with Deutsche Bank a few > > years ago but Klaus is now working for > > another > > company in Melbourne. > > > > If you know where I can find any sample files I would appreciate getting > > hold of them. It would be good to have a > > collection of sample files for testing Gnucash in any case as part of the > > program. No problem for the internal ones > > that Gnucash can export. > > In theory we keep a set of sample files in > https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/tree/maint/doc/examples and might add > the missing there, if we get them, too. > > MTxxx formats > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWIFT_message_types > are defined by SWIFT > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Worldwide_Interbank_Financial_Telecommunication > > There is Transition in progess from ISO 7775 over ISO 15022 to ISO 20022 > The genaral standard > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_15022 > has in 2 flavours: > traditional line oriented MT-formats (message types) > and modern UNIFI (ISO 20022) xml files aka MX-format > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_20022 > Often the german wiki page has more details like field descritions. But > I didn't see nice example files. > > DTA > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datentr%C3%A4geraustauschverfahren > Was introduced by the german bank association ZKA > - today: https://die-dk.de/en/ - > in 1976 for magnetic tapes, later floppies, ... > 2016-02-01 it was officially abandoned and replaced by > B2B: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Banking_Internet_Communication_Standard, > else: the above-mentioned ISO20022 (XML-Format). Agreed better to concentrate on the replacement formats. Banks in Australia are very conservative at adopting anything that allows direct online access by users. They tell me it is security related. I think they have by passed all of the European developments driven primarily from Germany so i am stuck with downloaded OFX files. Since the above are fairly well defined standards there is probably no more to it than selecting a file correctly formatted with the right extension in any case. Perhaps just put a note to the effect they are now obsolete and have been replaced by... David Cousens > > While the wikipedia page describes the structure IMHO there is no need > to document a abandoned format. > > So, if you think we should add example files we should ask on > gnucash-user and gnucash-de. > > > Best wishes > > David (Cousens) > > ~Frank > ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] ImpEx Sample files
Am 18.09.18 um 18:47 schrieb David T.: > > >> On Sep 18, 2018, at 11:46 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger >> wrote: >> >> DTA >> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datentr%C3%A4geraustauschverfahren >> Was introduced by the german bank association ZKA >> - today: https://die-dk.de/en/ - >> in 1976 for magnetic tapes, later floppies, ... >> 2016-02-01 it was officially abandoned and replaced by >> B2B: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Banking_Internet_Communication_Standard, >> else: the above-mentioned ISO20022 (XML-Format). >> >> While the wikipedia page describes the structure IMHO there is no need >> to document a abandoned format. >> > > If the format is abandoned, does GnuCash have to import it? > Good question! I will ask on gnucash-de, if there are still users. If we get no feedback, we can consider to remove it. Frank ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] ImpEx Sample files
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 11:46 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger > wrote: > > DTA > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datentr%C3%A4geraustauschverfahren > Was introduced by the german bank association ZKA > - today: https://die-dk.de/en/ - > in 1976 for magnetic tapes, later floppies, ... > 2016-02-01 it was officially abandoned and replaced by > B2B: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Banking_Internet_Communication_Standard, > else: the above-mentioned ISO20022 (XML-Format). > > While the wikipedia page describes the structure IMHO there is no need > to document a abandoned format. > If the format is abandoned, does GnuCash have to import it? ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: [GNC-dev] ImpEx Sample files
Am 18.09.18 um 15:00 schrieb David Cousens: > One problem I will have is getting sample files for the MT940, MT942 and > DTAUS formats so I can run through the > interfaces. I have a friend who was a manager with Deutsche Bank a few years > ago but Klaus is now working for another > company in Melbourne. > > If you know where I can find any sample files I would appreciate getting hold > of them. It would be good to have a > collection of sample files for testing Gnucash in any case as part of the > program. No problem for the internal ones > that Gnucash can export. In theory we keep a set of sample files in https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/tree/maint/doc/examples and might add the missing there, if we get them, too. MTxxx formats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWIFT_message_types are defined by SWIFT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Worldwide_Interbank_Financial_Telecommunication There is Transition in progess from ISO 7775 over ISO 15022 to ISO 20022 The genaral standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_15022 has in 2 flavours: traditional line oriented MT-formats (message types) and modern UNIFI (ISO 20022) xml files aka MX-format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_20022 Often the german wiki page has more details like field descritions. But I didn't see nice example files. DTA https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datentr%C3%A4geraustauschverfahren Was introduced by the german bank association ZKA - today: https://die-dk.de/en/ - in 1976 for magnetic tapes, later floppies, ... 2016-02-01 it was officially abandoned and replaced by B2B: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Banking_Internet_Communication_Standard, else: the above-mentioned ISO20022 (XML-Format). While the wikipedia page describes the structure IMHO there is no need to document a abandoned format. So, if you think we should add example files we should ask on gnucash-user and gnucash-de. > Best wishes > David (Cousens) ~Frank ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
