RE: Vista (progress? estimate?)

2008-03-23 Thread Andy Den Tandt

For what it's worth: I'm running Vista Ultimate and I've used gnucash 2.2.1
for about 5 months on Vista and last month I have upgraded to 2.2.4. All
this time I have had no problems with the single exception of having to
install ORBit2-2.13.3.zip in combination with GnuCash 2.2.1 but apparently
that has been fixed in later versions so you won't run into it. For the
2.2.4 I just ran the Gnucash installer, piece of cake...

Andy

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Onderwerp: Vista (progress? estimate?)

I need to do some organizational planning but I am posting this here 
rather than the user list because of the nature of parts of this question.

Problem statement --- I am currently the Treasurer for a 501c3 but next 
year will have to take at least a one year hiatus (term limit bylaw). 
Which means I have to be able to turn this over to somebody else. I have 
the organizational books up under GnuCash and would like them to be able 
to remain under GnuCash. Currently running on our PERSONAL computer but 
that's part of the problem for turnover. There is a time limit issue on 
getting a reimbursement for the organizational computer lost in the fire.

1) What is the current Vista situation? If GnuCash still isn't Vista 
ready, anybody willing to give a time estimate on when they think the 
problem will have been solved? Please, I am not intending this as 
holding anybody's feet to the fire or hanging them for a bad guess -- I 
used to do this for a living and know how deliverable dates slip OR 
what gets delivered actually missing pieces. But I need a guesstimate 
in order to make other choices.

2) What is driving this is another time limit -- one involving 
reimbursement (replacement) insurance for what was lost in the fire. 
There are naturally some constraints (besides cost) but essentially I 
can buy an approximately ~550* device for ~150 (the already received 
depreciated current value of the destroyed device). The sad realities 
are..
  a) Nobody is very willing to house an extra desktop. They will want it 
on a laptop.
  b) There is ONE other director who would be willing to run Linux. I 
just can't make use something other than Windows a requirement for 
running for Treasurer.
  c) I can get a refurbished laptop under XP with adequate modern 
hardware to possibly be able to justify the decision. You need to 
understand that the problem is at
  this cost my choices in new laptops running XP is very limited. 
Remember -- for the rest of the board (minus one other person besides 
myself) the politics of free software irrelevant AND the 
cost issue not as relevant (Intuit won't -- but many vendors charge 
non-profits less and/or agencies give grants for purposes like all 
directors get the same version of MS Office).

 The point here is that I don't want to wage a fight that I don't 
have to (justify why I got a refurbished laptop rather than a new one 
for the same price!). I can hold off on action six months at least. 
That's why I am asking for a prediction. I also face the potential 
problem of my replacement NOT wanting a dedicated device but asking me 
to install GnuCash on their device. So we aren't talking about date when 
buildable on Vista but availability of a stable release.

Michael

* allowed to spend more -- essentially for any replacement device bought 
costing that mush or more get the maximum reimbursement of 400 so only 
paying cost-400 for the device

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equality of the grave.

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Vista (progress? estimate?)

2008-03-22 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
I need to do some organizational planning but I am posting this here 
rather than the user list because of the nature of parts of this question.

Problem statement --- I am currently the Treasurer for a 501c3 but next 
year will have to take at least a one year hiatus (term limit bylaw). 
Which means I have to be able to turn this over to somebody else. I have 
the organizational books up under GnuCash and would like them to be able 
to remain under GnuCash. Currently running on our PERSONAL computer but 
that's part of the problem for turnover. There is a time limit issue on 
getting a reimbursement for the organizational computer lost in the fire.

1) What is the current Vista situation? If GnuCash still isn't Vista 
ready, anybody willing to give a time estimate on when they think the 
problem will have been solved? Please, I am not intending this as 
holding anybody's feet to the fire or hanging them for a bad guess -- I 
used to do this for a living and know how deliverable dates slip OR 
what gets delivered actually missing pieces. But I need a guesstimate 
in order to make other choices.

2) What is driving this is another time limit -- one involving 
reimbursement (replacement) insurance for what was lost in the fire. 
There are naturally some constraints (besides cost) but essentially I 
can buy an approximately ~550* device for ~150 (the already received 
depreciated current value of the destroyed device). The sad realities 
are..
  a) Nobody is very willing to house an extra desktop. They will want it 
on a laptop.
  b) There is ONE other director who would be willing to run Linux. I 
just can't make use something other than Windows a requirement for 
running for Treasurer.
  c) I can get a refurbished laptop under XP with adequate modern 
hardware to possibly be able to justify the decision. You need to 
understand that the problem is at
  this cost my choices in new laptops running XP is very limited. 
Remember -- for the rest of the board (minus one other person besides 
myself) the politics of free software irrelevant AND the 
cost issue not as relevant (Intuit won't -- but many vendors charge 
non-profits less and/or agencies give grants for purposes like all 
directors get the same version of MS Office).

 The point here is that I don't want to wage a fight that I don't 
have to (justify why I got a refurbished laptop rather than a new one 
for the same price!). I can hold off on action six months at least. 
That's why I am asking for a prediction. I also face the potential 
problem of my replacement NOT wanting a dedicated device but asking me 
to install GnuCash on their device. So we aren't talking about date when 
buildable on Vista but availability of a stable release.

Michael

* allowed to spend more -- essentially for any replacement device bought 
costing that mush or more get the maximum reimbursement of 400 so only 
paying cost-400 for the device

-- 
There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the equality 
of the grave.

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Re: Vista (progress? estimate?)

2008-03-22 Thread Derek Atkins
Um, I've heard no news that 2.2.4 doesn't work on Vista.  Does 2.2.4
NOT work on vista?

-derek

Quoting Mike or Penny Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I need to do some organizational planning but I am posting this here
 rather than the user list because of the nature of parts of this question.

 Problem statement --- I am currently the Treasurer for a 501c3 but next
 year will have to take at least a one year hiatus (term limit bylaw).
 Which means I have to be able to turn this over to somebody else. I have
 the organizational books up under GnuCash and would like them to be able
 to remain under GnuCash. Currently running on our PERSONAL computer but
 that's part of the problem for turnover. There is a time limit issue on
 getting a reimbursement for the organizational computer lost in the fire.

 1) What is the current Vista situation? If GnuCash still isn't Vista
 ready, anybody willing to give a time estimate on when they think the
 problem will have been solved? Please, I am not intending this as
 holding anybody's feet to the fire or hanging them for a bad guess -- I
 used to do this for a living and know how deliverable dates slip OR
 what gets delivered actually missing pieces. But I need a guesstimate
 in order to make other choices.

 2) What is driving this is another time limit -- one involving
 reimbursement (replacement) insurance for what was lost in the fire.
 There are naturally some constraints (besides cost) but essentially I
 can buy an approximately ~550* device for ~150 (the already received
 depreciated current value of the destroyed device). The sad realities
 are..
  a) Nobody is very willing to house an extra desktop. They will want it
 on a laptop.
  b) There is ONE other director who would be willing to run Linux. I
 just can't make use something other than Windows a requirement for
 running for Treasurer.
  c) I can get a refurbished laptop under XP with adequate modern
 hardware to possibly be able to justify the decision. You need to
 understand that the problem is at
  this cost my choices in new laptops running XP is very limited.
 Remember -- for the rest of the board (minus one other person besides
 myself) the politics of free software irrelevant AND the
 cost issue not as relevant (Intuit won't -- but many vendors charge
 non-profits less and/or agencies give grants for purposes like all
 directors get the same version of MS Office).

 The point here is that I don't want to wage a fight that I don't
 have to (justify why I got a refurbished laptop rather than a new one
 for the same price!). I can hold off on action six months at least.
 That's why I am asking for a prediction. I also face the potential
 problem of my replacement NOT wanting a dedicated device but asking me
 to install GnuCash on their device. So we aren't talking about date when
 buildable on Vista but availability of a stable release.

 Michael

 * allowed to spend more -- essentially for any replacement device bought
 costing that mush or more get the maximum reimbursement of 400 so only
 paying cost-400 for the device

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 equality of the grave.

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Re: Vista (progress? estimate?)

2008-03-22 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
Derek Atkins wrote:

 Um, I've heard no news that 2.2.4 doesn't work on Vista.  Does 2.2.4
 NOT work on vista?

That's why I am asking. I don't (thank goodness) have a Vista machine 
here at the moment. The last discussions about this problem were around 
October with the problem then not resolved (there was a work around, but 
not the sort of thing I could tell an 'end user to do). AFAIK there 
hasn't been an all fixed now posting.

I am just trying to be proactive. The replacement part of our 
insurance will reimburse for a number of machines (at various different 
amounts for each) so I have to figure out how best to juggle. I was able 
to get use of GnuCash approved (replacing QuickBooks Pro nonprofit -- 
more precisely NOT replacing this software post fire) but need to look 
ahead how to maintain that decision. I have board approval NOT to 
replace the machine dedicated to chapter financials under the assumption 
that anybody becoming treasurer would probably already have more 
machines in their house than room for (don't we all). But doing it that 
way means my being able to install the software on the new treasurer's 
machine and I can't specify must still be running XP (so if not OK on 
Vista by this Fall, I would get an inexpensive laptop running XP for 
dedicated)

Michael
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