Re: bank entries

2017-11-26 Thread David Carlson 
Christine,

If you receive income you might deposit it into the bank.  If you spend
money for groceries, you use cash.  If you withdraw money from the bank you
transfer from bank to cash.

That is what double entry is about.

David C,

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Christine via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Hi Dave
> My accounts are Cash, Bank, Income, various expenses, and 2 people who I
> pay
> money too and who pay to the bank.
> IF I balance one of the accounts another goes wrong. All I want to do is
> add
> my bank and my cash and let gnucash do the rest (ie an income and
> expenditure report) but it is not working. Reading the literature I just
> get
> confused as I am used to DR and CR.
> Thanks anyway maybe I should look for an easier program if anyone knows of
> one
>
> Christine
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+cmaloney4=talktalk@gnucash.org] On Behalf
> Of DaveC49
> Sent: 27 November 2017 02:20
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: bank entries
>
> Christine,
>
> Gnucash is a double entry accounting system.  What this means is that any
> transaction affects at least two accounts. For example when you purchase
> something your bank account is credited by the amount of the purchase any
> purchase is also an expense so an expense account has to be debited by the
> amount of the purchase in the second component of the transaction. These
> two
> components of the one transactions are referred to in Gnucash as "splits".
> The same methodology is applied to any other sort of transaction, it will
> always consist of at least two components ( and sometimes more) affecting
> at
> least two accounts. In any single transaction the sum of the debit and the
> sum of the credit components of the splits of that transaction must be
> equal
>
> The Gnucash Tutorial and Concepts guide
> (https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/) along with the
> Wikipedia articles on double entry bookkeeping
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping_system will give
> you
> some background information. Gnucash follows what is called the Accounting
> Equation or American approach in this article. The article on the
> Accounting
> equation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_equation) also provides
> some useful background.
>
> That said, it is possible when you are entering a transaction and create
> the
> deposit split to your bank account (this will be a debit to that account if
> you use the accounting terms) what you are seeing is the other
> component/split of the transaction being automatically created. If you have
> not yet created  appropriate income accounts, it may be assigning your bank
> account as the default account for this second split which will be  a
> credit. If you click in the account field in the second split, you should
> be
> able to select a different account from your chart of accounts.
>
> For a deposit to your bank account, the account for the second split would
> normally be an income account for money coming from an external source or
> another asset account if you are transferring money between accounts ofr
> example.
>
>
> David
>
>
>
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RE: bank entries

2017-11-26 Thread Christine via gnucash-user 
Hi Dave
My accounts are Cash, Bank, Income, various expenses, and 2 people who I pay
money too and who pay to the bank. 
IF I balance one of the accounts another goes wrong. All I want to do is add
my bank and my cash and let gnucash do the rest (ie an income and
expenditure report) but it is not working. Reading the literature I just get
confused as I am used to DR and CR.
Thanks anyway maybe I should look for an easier program if anyone knows of
one

Christine 


-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+cmaloney4=talktalk@gnucash.org] On Behalf
Of DaveC49
Sent: 27 November 2017 02:20
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: bank entries

Christine,

Gnucash is a double entry accounting system.  What this means is that any
transaction affects at least two accounts. For example when you purchase
something your bank account is credited by the amount of the purchase any
purchase is also an expense so an expense account has to be debited by the
amount of the purchase in the second component of the transaction. These two
components of the one transactions are referred to in Gnucash as "splits".
The same methodology is applied to any other sort of transaction, it will
always consist of at least two components ( and sometimes more) affecting at
least two accounts. In any single transaction the sum of the debit and the
sum of the credit components of the splits of that transaction must be equal

The Gnucash Tutorial and Concepts guide
(https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/) along with the
Wikipedia articles on double entry bookkeeping
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping_system will give you
some background information. Gnucash follows what is called the Accounting
Equation or American approach in this article. The article on the Accounting
equation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_equation) also provides
some useful background.

That said, it is possible when you are entering a transaction and create the
deposit split to your bank account (this will be a debit to that account if
you use the accounting terms) what you are seeing is the other
component/split of the transaction being automatically created. If you have
not yet created  appropriate income accounts, it may be assigning your bank
account as the default account for this second split which will be  a
credit. If you click in the account field in the second split, you should be
able to select a different account from your chart of accounts. 

For a deposit to your bank account, the account for the second split would
normally be an income account for money coming from an external source or
another asset account if you are transferring money between accounts ofr
example.


David



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Re: bank entries

2017-11-26 Thread DaveC49 
Christine,

Gnucash is a double entry accounting system.  What this means is that any
transaction affects at least two accounts. For example when you purchase
something your bank account is credited by the amount of the purchase any
purchase is also an expense so an expense account has to be debited by the
amount of the purchase in the second component of the transaction. These two
components of the one transactions are referred to in Gnucash as "splits".
The same methodology is applied to any other sort of transaction, it will
always consist of at least two components ( and sometimes more) affecting at
least two accounts. In any single transaction the sum of the debit and the
sum of the credit components of the splits of that transaction must be equal

The Gnucash Tutorial and Concepts guide
(https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/) along with the
Wikipedia articles on double entry bookkeeping
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping_system will give you
some background information. Gnucash follows what is called the Accounting
Equation or American approach in this article. The article on the Accounting
equation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_equation) also provides
some useful background.

That said, it is possible when you are entering a transaction and create the
deposit split to your bank account (this will be a debit to that account if
you use the accounting terms) what you are seeing is the other
component/split of the transaction being automatically created. If you have
not yet created  appropriate income accounts, it may be assigning your bank
account as the default account for this second split which will be  a
credit. If you click in the account field in the second split, you should be
able to select a different account from your chart of accounts. 

For a deposit to your bank account, the account for the second split would
normally be an income account for money coming from an external source or
another asset account if you are transferring money between accounts ofr
example.


David



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RE: bank entries

2017-11-26 Thread Ken Pyzik 
Christine -- without seeing the entry it is difficult to determine why is it
doing what you say it is.  As a matter of principle, you must remember that
there must be a corresponding "other-side" to your deposit entry.   While
this may seem counter-intuitive, your deposit to your bank account needs to
have a corresponding (and opposite) entry to another account.   The way I
have mine is I have my bank account (account type BANK) and another account
called Income-deposits (account type INCOME).  When I make a deposit to my
bank account the "transfer account" (or other side of the entry) is to the
income account.You will notice that the deposit to a BANK type account
will be on the "left side" (thus increasing the balance of the bank account)
and the entry will be on the "right side" of the income-deposits account
which will be income and thus increase the value of this account.  

So it is very much dependent upon how you have setup your accounts.  

Hope that makes sense.



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On Behalf Of Christine via gnucash-user
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:52 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: bank entries

Whenever I post a deposit to the bank, it makes a withdrawal of the same
amount and I cannot get it to just take the entry, can anyone help pls

Christine 



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Re: bank entries

2017-11-26 Thread Colin Law 
Have you read the tutorial and concepts guide? [1]
It sounds like you are making a basic mistake in how you are entering it.

Colin

[1] http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/

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> Whenever I post a deposit to the bank, it makes a withdrawal of the same
> amount and I cannot get it to just take the entry, can anyone help pls
>
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Re: bank entries

2017-11-26 Thread Christine via gnucash-user 
Whenever I post a deposit to the bank, it makes a withdrawal of the same
amount and I cannot get it to just take the entry, can anyone help pls

Christine 



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GnuCash 2.7.2 released

2017-11-26 Thread John Ralls 
The Gnucash Development Team is pleased to release Gnucash 2.7.2, the third 
release of an unstable series leading to Gnucash 2.8.0.

This release is UNSTABLE and SHOULD NOT BE USED in production.

This release changes file locations, binding APIs, report options, and can make 
your data file no longer compatible with previous versions. See the Update 
Notes Page for details.

See the KNOWN PROBLEMS list at the bottom of the announcement.

Bugs fixed in this release

• Bug 734865 - Assign as Payment... can silently 'unpay' a payed invoice
• if the selected transaction is already linked to an existing 
payment, the payment dialog will present this payment again (same partner, 
post-to account, same selected document(s), same amount, memo, and transfer 
account).
• if the selected transaction is not linked to an existing 
business transaction the logic will make a best guess as to whether the payment 
should be for a customer or vendor.
• in both situations if the existing transaction has multiple 
splits that can be considered as transfer (or 'payment') splits the payment 
dialog can't work with it (it can only deal with one transfer split). In this 
case the user will be informed that only one valid transfer split will be 
retained and the others ignored.
• the other thing the payment dialog can't handle are APAR type 
splits that are not associated to a lot at all. In case of transactions not 
part of a business transaction they will be silently ignored on the assumptions 
these were manually entered transactions with the intention to be linked to 
business transactions. On the other hand if such a split is part of a 
transaction that is also linked to a business payment already, a warning will 
be issued these splits will be removed from the new payment.
• Bug 778692 - Assign as payment should work for employee expense 
vouchers
• if gnucash can deduce a partner from the transaction that 
partner will be proposed this works for all transactions that are part of a 
business transaction already and will correctly detect pre-existing customer, 
vendor and employee payments
• if no partner can be deduced gnucash will assume the 
transaction to be a vendor or customer payment based on the sign
• in all cases the user can change the partner type in the 
payment window that's presented to any of customer, vendor or employee to 
correct gnucash' suggestion.
• Bug 784623 - GNUCash does not work with sql backend.
Wherin the problem is that MySQL's TIMESTAMP has a date range of 1970-01-01 
00:00:01 to 2038-01-19 03:14:07 and is unable to handle time_t of 0. MySQL's 
TIMESTAMP also assumes that input is in the server's timezone and adjusts it to 
UTC. GnuCash has already done that conversion.

• Bug 789608 - Compilation problems when linking libraries.
• Bug 789928 - FTBFS with libdbi 0.9.0-5 on Debian.
• Bug 790550 - FTBFS: missing __init__.py
Some other fixes not associated with reported bugs:

• SQL parameter quoting is corrected in the backend so that only string 
parameters are quoted. This caused trouble when trying to store SQL NULL; the 
string 'NULL' is different from the value NULL.
• SQL table versions weren't set consistently and a bogus version test 
could cause some tables to be not loaded.
• Better, more targeted handling of MySQL's penchant for setting 
date-time fields to "-00-00 00:00:00" if it doesn't like the input. This 
should be much less common thanks to fixing Bug 784623.
• Major repairs to the "Dense Calendar" date selector.
• Fix colors on graph reports so that the selections work and the 
defaults are no longer transparent.
• Two large batches of styling fixes for Gtk3 from Bob Fewell.
• Fix the guile-compiled path in the environment file so that GnuCash 
can start on Windows.
• Convert the graphical reports to use GnuCash's rational numbers 
instead of doubles for better accuracy.
KNOWN PROBLEMS:

• On Microsoft Windows starting the AQBanking Setup Wizard crashes 
GnuCash.
• test-import-bayes built with autotools intermittently fails at line 
381, where the returned value is 1 instead of the expected 6.
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