Liabilities / Accounts

[Seamus Duffy | J.D. Tools Ltd.]

Support at GNUCash,

I have downloaded your free accounts and i'm very impressed however, I have
a problem with entering a new account in Liabilities, maybe you could
instruct me how it should be done as I can't get it to work.

Your help would be much appreciated.

What I'm trying to do is as follows : I need to enter rent on a weekly
basis but pay one amount at month end. (I thought an account would work in
liabilities and expenses) with four enteries in libilities and one entery
from the expense account.

Kind regards
James


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Re: Building 2.6.19 on Ubuntu Xenial

[DaveC49]

Just an additional comment Adrien,

./configure usually checks all the dependencies. First time I compiled
gnucash from sources I just reran ./configure installing any packages it
flagged as missing. i've just recompiled 2.6.19 on Linux Mint 18.3 (Ubuntu
16.04 derivative updated to Linux kernel version 4.13.0-36) without any
hassles and it's working fine. 

David



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Re: Building 2.6.19 on Ubuntu Xenial

[DaveC49]

Hi Adrien,

See this page (https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ubuntu) from the website for
installing on Ubuntu. There is also a link at the bottom of the page for
building Gnucash on Ubuntu (https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building#Ubuntu)
but as you observed it has the dependency list for 2.8.

There is usually a README.dependencies in the source code which will give
you the library versions needed for 2.6.19 and th optional dependencies for
sqlite. The gcc compiler will generally tell you if any packages are
missing. The versions are generally >= the specified version but going to
next major releases can be problematical in some cases (gtk a case in point
as 2.6 is GTK2 based and 2.8 is GTK3 based). 

I usually use the autotools as I am more familiar with that, but did use
CMake to build 2.6.18 without any problems. Main thing to remember is to
specify the prefix to either make or CMake for the installation directory. I
think the default for prefix for ./configure  is /usr/local/bin/gnucash (
this is where ubuntu places the version available within their distribution
- only disadvantage is that the distro version would intsall over the top of
it) and you will need to use sudo make install to install it for all users
in that location. 

(/opt/gnucash is often used for installation if you have a development
version running in addition to a production/distro version - note both will
use same .gnucash in your home directory which might cause some minor
problems).

I'm starting to use Virtual Machines for building and development to avoid
conflicts and confusion between library requirements for different packages
i.e. I am setting up a VM for 2.6 builds and another for 2.8 builds as well
as for other applications I play with. Early days and I'm still sorting out
networking  between the VMs and my host to simplify file transfers.

David



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Re: Building 2.6.19 on Ubuntu Xenial

[David Carlson]

Adrien,

I found Release 2.6.17 backported to Ubuntu 16.04 (and 17.04). in the
Getdeb repo.  That was good enough for me.

David C

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I’m setting up an Ubuntu Xenial machine for a family member and I’d like
> to put Gnucash on it. The Xenial repos are dated to 2.6.12, a bit too stale.
>
> I’d like to put 2.6.19 on it, but the instructions on the wiki are for
> 2.8(3.0) and I don’t know if these are still valid for the 2.6 series.
>
> Will that procedure also work for 2.6.19? (and which is better to use
> Autotools or CMake?) I won’t be using the build tools for anything else,
> save maybe an update to 3.0 when it is released. (or more likely not until
> 3.1 or so) I’d like to set him up with an sqlite backend if that makes a
> difference. (I see a note on the wiki about Autotools being for the XML
> backend)
>
> Should I use the Trusty instructions instead?
>
> The last time I built a stable version was Precise, anything I built
> recently was the 2.7 branch.
>
> Or is there a better way to obtain the most up-to-date version for Xenial?
> (GetDeb only has 2.6.17 as of today)
>
> Thanks for any tips and advice.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
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Re: importing splits

[elvis]

On 27/02/18 01:59, David Carlson wrote:
I believe the OP does not want to use a csv to qif converter. Perhaps 
whichever one he tried was difficult to use.


Or maybe he wishes that his bank would do the split for him
David C





I got a python script written to put the Australia gst split into 
downloaded bank (qif) files. Otherwise there doesn't seem to be any way 
of accounting for it short of putting every purchase through the 
invoicing system. And that just isn't reasonable or practical for a 
large volume of transactions.


I've never used a commercial product, I've always wondered how they 
handle it.


Lawrence


On Feb 26, 2018 5:39 AM, "elvis" > wrote:




On 24/02/18 03:39, Geert Janssens wrote:

Op vrijdag 23 februari 2018 16:06:37 CET schreef Jeff Abrahamson:

Thanks.  I see my question wasn't clear.  My problem is
that I want to
import the splits and it seems I can only import transactions.

I.e. (super simplified):

     deposit cheque           bank dx 100.00
     cheque 1        Alice    membership     rx 50.00
     cheque 2        Bob      membership     rx 50.00

Jeff

Assuming this is one transaction, you are essentially asking
to import multi-
split transactions.

This is not possible in gnucash 2.6, but it will be in 3.0
(which we are
preparing for release, hopefully next month).

I've been importing multi split transactions for years using the
qif importer. Am I missing something here?

Cheers
Lawrence
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Building 2.6.19 on Ubuntu Xenial

[Adrien Monteleone]

I’m setting up an Ubuntu Xenial machine for a family member and I’d like to put 
Gnucash on it. The Xenial repos are dated to 2.6.12, a bit too stale.

I’d like to put 2.6.19 on it, but the instructions on the wiki are for 2.8(3.0) 
and I don’t know if these are still valid for the 2.6 series.

Will that procedure also work for 2.6.19? (and which is better to use Autotools 
or CMake?) I won’t be using the build tools for anything else, save maybe an 
update to 3.0 when it is released. (or more likely not until 3.1 or so) I’d 
like to set him up with an sqlite backend if that makes a difference. (I see a 
note on the wiki about Autotools being for the XML backend)

Should I use the Trusty instructions instead?

The last time I built a stable version was Precise, anything I built recently 
was the 2.7 branch.

Or is there a better way to obtain the most up-to-date version for Xenial? 
(GetDeb only has 2.6.17 as of today)

Thanks for any tips and advice.
 
Regards,
Adrien

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Re: Lost my file

[David Carlson]

Anita,

You need to start by going to a full backup.  Either pick one that you made
when you did your last full computer backup (you do make backup s, right?)
or pick the last one that GnuCash made with the long number embedded in the
file name.

Then you can first save that file with a temporary filename while you
rebuild your data.  Then use File > Replay Log to apply log files newer
than the file you picked to start with.  Those logs don't save every
thing.  Business features in particular will not be updated.

Good luck.

David C

On Feb 26, 2018 4:56 PM, "Anita Graves"  wrote:

> Dear folks,
>
> Can you help me rebuild my file from a log file?
>
> Thanks so much
>
> Anita Graves
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Re: variable scheduled date

[Jean-David Beyer]

On 02/26/2018 08:29 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Adrien Monteleone  writes:
> 
>> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
>> versions back.
>>
>> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
>> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
>> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
>> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>>
>> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
> RHEL is a great server platform.
> It SUCKS as a desktop platform.

> I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
> really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
> which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
> software.

I mainly chose RHEL for my desktop when it was running servers as well
as the usual desktop applications. I had been running the regular Red
Hat Unix versions up to 7.3. I tried Red Hat 9 and it did not run IBM
DB2 very well, that I needed for database work. I started tunning RHEL3
on one machine and upgraded another machine to CentOS 4.

One reason I keep running RHEL is just because I cannot stand having to
update Fedora systems so often. The minor updates are usually OK, but
when a new release comes out, it takes way too much time to install and
configure it. It inly takes a couple of hours to install the software,
but it usually takes me about a month to get it all configured
correctly. And when the releases are now SELinux, getting that right ...
. Well if you have done it, you know what I mean. And if you have not,
good luck to you.
> 
> Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
> laptop every 3.
> 
I keep them that long. I kept my first machine 14 years, but after four
years, I added a second computer and networked them together, and after
another four years, I built yet another and kept it until the power
supply exploded (at about years old). Until that happened, it was
working just fine but by then the power supply was so obsolete that I
could not find any with the right power and the right connections.

I donated the oldest one to someone who used it for some parts (very
good dial-up modem when I no longer needed modems). The next one I
junked (dual 550 MHz Pentium III processors, 512 Megabytes RAM). I
thought about upping the RAM, but decided against that because those
processors were just too slow.I only kept it around because I had a
Windows XP license for it to do my taxes on it.

My current machine is 64-bits, has a 4-core Xeon processor, 8 GBytes
RAM. The mother board will take two Xeon processors, 512 GBytes RAM. At
one time, I might have needed that, but right now I sure do not.

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Re: Reports balance sheet - with explicit dual currency for "$"

[Wm]

On 24/02/2018 18:05, Vin Ordinaire wrote:

2nd reply



Dollars are great - pick one of many flavours
USD,CAN,AUD,HKG,Bermuda,Singapore and about 10 others.


Aside:

For thinking flox with idle time you can decide for yourself who 
invented the dollar or the symbol as they have separate histories, 
similar for the pound (more varied than $ in representation) as a unit 
or symbol.


My advice is use the 3 letter codes and stop being protective of the 
dumb symbols.


Hint: no country owns $ as a symbol.  Got it?


The problem is reporting a balance sheet multiple currency assets.  I
located in the Windows version Options>Commodities>Show Foreign Currencies
that does indeed show the "other" value in whatever currency I post the
asset in.


Presuming you know a balance sheet is at a point in time and that you 
know you have absolute control over the exchange rates your price db has 
in it, I'm not seeing the problem.  If you don't like the exchange rate 
change it !  This may not reflect the real world, of course :)  Most 
people here are likely to suggest your view of exchange rates 
approximates real world exchanges.  It is possible for unconventional 
trades to exist but you probably shouldn't tell everyone about them 
unless you can suggest a model.



However, when pairing USD,CAN,AUD,HKG,Bermuda,Singapore and about 10 others,
the "$" is highly ambiguous and confusing. I pair AUD, USD and HKG and have
assets in all three currencies.


I'm with AdrienM in that I don't understand your use of currency 
pairing, BTW.  See above about $ as a symbol being redundant.


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Lost my file

[Anita Graves]

Dear folks,

Can you help me rebuild my file from a log file?

Thanks so much

Anita Graves
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Comments on 2.7.5

[Michael via gnucash-user]

Don't see many comments about the new versions so here are a few.

Since 2.7.4 I forgot how to do cmake, but wrote the process down this time.

In 2.7.4, on linux mint 18.3, using sqlite3 didn't seem to work; now it 
does with the 2.7.5 version.


In 2.7.4 I thought tax item markings got lost but maybe I just didn't 
try hard enough.  With 2.7.5 I'm not sure the report showed until I 
tried to edit report options.  However, I was able to get a tax report 
to show when I chose a specific date range.  However the data had dates 
one year earlier than requested.  Also, when trying to edit tax options, 
after selecting individual ... and trying to change expense, the 
default, to income I got a crash and segmentation fault.


Overall, 2.7.5 behavior seems much improved over 2.7.4.  Mike

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Re: General Ledger

[Liz]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:16:06 -0800
Greg Feneis  wrote:

> I keep seeing this email subject line and imagine you guys are
> discussing a lesser known war hero
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Greg Feneis

Yes, he/she fought against Manuel Labour.

Liz
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Re: General Ledger

[Greg Feneis]

I keep seeing this email subject line and imagine you guys are discussing a
lesser known war hero


Kind regards,

Greg Feneis



On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Mike or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com> wrote:

> On 2/26/2018 7:34 AM, Buddha Buck wrote:
>
>> It's not an Australian accounting thing, unless I managed to grab
>> Australian book out of my small-city upstate New York library system some
>> 30 years ago...
>>
>> Or me, more like 50 years ago, and the books would have been my dad's
> from a generation earlier than that.
>
> Michael
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OT: fedora, linux and 32 bit software was Re: variable scheduled date

[David Carlson]

A lot of us still have old 32 bit machines that have not died yet, but on
the other hand today there are many good 64 bit machines available for
about $300 to $400.  They have really crappy keyboards, no optical drive
and other shortcomings but fairly decent displays and performance.  You
could buy a tablet and add the missing keyboard, optical drive, USB
splitter and Ethernet port .

David C

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How could I forget about servers?
>
> True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case.
>
> As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair,
> it’s a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue)
>
> Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early
> 2000s, most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life
> with various *nix flavors)
>
> A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with
> Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until
> that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE)
>
> I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB!
> of RAM with an old Puppy flavor.
>
> The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running
> don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are
> dropping 32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting
> slimmer. (mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users
> obviously aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent,
> safe and secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more
> than anything is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for
> the bloat of both browsers and websites, those machines would probably
> continue to function just fine for several more years. (and might still as
> long as they aren’t connected to the internet for anything other than
> e-mail)
>
> But I digress as this is all far from the original topic.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> >
> > Adrien,
> >
> > Adrien Monteleone  writes:
> >
> >> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
> >> versions back.
> >>
> >> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
> >> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
> >> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
> >> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
> >>
> >> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
> >
> > RHEL is a great server platform.
> > It SUCKS as a desktop platform.
> > I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
> > really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
> > which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
> > software.
> >
> > Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
> > laptop every 3.
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >
> > -derek
> >
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Re: variable scheduled date

[Ronal B Morse]

Sounds to me like Jean-David is looking for something like a flatpack or 
snap...a complete self-contained installable that brings it's 
dependencies with it and runs in a sandbox or other self-contained 
userspace.


But, RHEL 6 doesn't support flatpack or snaps so that's not a solution, 
either.


RBM


On 02/26/2018 09:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

How could I forget about servers?

True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case.

As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair, it’s 
a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue)

Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early 2000s, 
most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life with various 
*nix flavors)

A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with 
Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until 
that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE)

I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB! of 
RAM with an old Puppy flavor.

The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running 
don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are dropping 
32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting slimmer. 
(mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users obviously 
aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent, safe and 
secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more than anything 
is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for the bloat of both 
browsers and websites, those machines would probably continue to function just 
fine for several more years. (and might still as long as they aren’t connected 
to the internet for anything other than e-mail)

But I digress as this is all far from the original topic.

Regards,
Adrien


On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkins  wrote:

Adrien,

Adrien Monteleone  writes:


True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
versions back.

I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.

Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.

RHEL is a great server platform.
It SUCKS as a desktop platform.
I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
software.

Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
laptop every 3.


Regards,
Adrien

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Re: variable scheduled date

[Adrien Monteleone]

How could I forget about servers?

True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case.

As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair, it’s 
a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue)

Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early 2000s, 
most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life with various 
*nix flavors)

A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with 
Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until 
that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE)

I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB! of 
RAM with an old Puppy flavor.

The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running 
don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are dropping 
32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting slimmer. 
(mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users obviously 
aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent, safe and 
secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more than anything 
is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for the bloat of both 
browsers and websites, those machines would probably continue to function just 
fine for several more years. (and might still as long as they aren’t connected 
to the internet for anything other than e-mail)

But I digress as this is all far from the original topic.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> 
> Adrien Monteleone  writes:
> 
>> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
>> versions back.
>> 
>> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
>> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
>> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
>> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>> 
>> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
> 
> RHEL is a great server platform.
> It SUCKS as a desktop platform.
> I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
> really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
> which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
> software.
> 
> Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
> laptop every 3.
> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
> 
> -derek
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Re: General Ledger

[Dale Alspach]

The reference I have distinguishes journal from ledger based on entry
time and purpose. A journal is a historical record of first entry of
complete transactions (splits, notes, etc.). A ledger is a final or
secondary record of changes to an account.

The term general journal seems to have two uses. In a small business
every transaction would be entered in time order in the general journal.
In a larger enterprise there may be many special journals (sales,
purchases, etc.) and the general journal would be for entries not in a
special journal.

As Michael Novak pointed out these notions originate in paper accounting
and for small business and personal accounting may not have much use.
With an electronic system such as gnucash and only one book the system
is ledger oriented. One can see the journal entries affecting one
account by selecting Transaction Journal under View. The General Ledger
under Tools shows what is like a journal except that some history is
lost because the entries may be changed without the use of a correcting
journal entry. With that in mind and the distinction noted above, this
seems to be a general ledger rather than a general journal unless one
uses strict accounting practice (once a transaction is entered it is
forever; the effect is changed by a new correcting transaction.) Some
transaction oriented systems have an audit trail which is equivalent to
a general journal.

Dale

On 02/26/2018 09:08 AM, Leo Bolta wrote:
> I never majored in accounting but I can still remember "General Journal"
> being a standard term often used in Canadian high school accounting about 50
> years ago.  Recently I picked up an Ontario, Canada bookkeeping text book
> from 1882.  It makes a distinction between what are called "Day Books,
> Journals and Ledgers".  I'll try to photograph some relative pages in the
> next few days and attach them in a post.
> Leo
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+lbolta=rogers@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
> Buddha Buck
> Sent: February-26-18 7:34 AM
> To: elvis
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: General Ledger
> 
> It's not an Australian accounting thing, unless I managed to grab Australian
> book out of my small-city upstate New York library system some 30 years
> ago...
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:38 AM elvis  wrote:
> 
>> On 25/02/18 07:54, Dave H wrote:
>>> Well from my point of view that is confusing.  Nobody in my world 
>>> refers
>> to
>>> a "General Journal" we refer to the "General Ledger" and we do 
>>> journals
>>> :-)  I've never actually heard the term general journal used 
>>> anywhere before until this discussion over the weekend !!!
>>
>> You weren't in my accounting class where we got the use of the general 
>> journal beaten into us :-) I can still remember it 30 years later. 
>> Maybe it's an Australian accounting thing.
>>> Cheers Dave H.
>>>
>>> On 24 February 2018 at 19:58, Geert Janssens 
>>> >>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: variable scheduled date

[Derek Atkins]

Adrien,

Adrien Monteleone  writes:

> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
> versions back.
>
> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>
> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.

RHEL is a great server platform.
It SUCKS as a desktop platform.
I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
software.

Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
laptop every 3.

> Regards,
> Adrien

-derek

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Re: importing splits

[David Carlson]

I believe the OP does not want to use a csv to qif converter. Perhaps
whichever one he tried was difficult to use.

Or maybe he wishes that his bank would do the split for him.

David C



On Feb 26, 2018 5:39 AM, "elvis"  wrote:

>
>
> On 24/02/18 03:39, Geert Janssens wrote:
>
>> Op vrijdag 23 februari 2018 16:06:37 CET schreef Jeff Abrahamson:
>>
>>> Thanks.  I see my question wasn't clear.  My problem is that I want to
>>> import the splits and it seems I can only import transactions.
>>>
>>> I.e. (super simplified):
>>>
>>>  deposit cheque   bank  dx 100.00
>>>  cheque 1Alicemembership rx 50.00
>>>  cheque 2Bob  membership rx 50.00
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>> Assuming this is one transaction, you are essentially asking to import
>> multi-
>> split transactions.
>>
>> This is not possible in gnucash 2.6, but it will be in 3.0 (which we are
>> preparing for release, hopefully next month).
>>
> I've been importing multi split transactions for years using the qif
> importer. Am I missing something here?
>
> Cheers
> Lawrence
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Re: General Ledger

[Adrien Monteleone]

Everyone is correct.

It’s a matter of perspective.

I too was taught ‘General Journal’. The ‘Ledger’ was step 2.

But our textbooks, and likely the focus of any accounting class, were primarily 
for *business* and from the perspective of a larger corporation or what we 
would distinguish today as an ‘enterprise', not small/medium business, not a 
mom & pop or an individual. (the same goes for econ classes by the way)

So the terminology taught to us makes perfect sense from the perspective of the 
‘main books’ of said enterprise. I’d bet the intro or the first chapter even 
qualifies the text accordingly.


Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Buddha Buck  wrote:
> 
> It's not an Australian accounting thing, unless I managed to grab
> Australian book out of my small-city upstate New York library system some
> 30 years ago...
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:38 AM elvis  wrote:
> 
>> On 25/02/18 07:54, Dave H wrote:
>>> Well from my point of view that is confusing.  Nobody in my world refers
>> to
>>> a "General Journal" we refer to the "General Ledger" and we do journals
>>> :-)  I've never actually heard the term general journal used anywhere
>>> before until this discussion over the weekend !!!
>> 
>> You weren't in my accounting class where we got the use of the general
>> journal beaten into us :-) I can still remember it 30 years later. Maybe
>> it's an Australian accounting thing.
>>> Cheers Dave H.
>>> 
>>> On 24 February 2018 at 19:58, Geert Janssens >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: help for gnucash

[John Ralls]

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 1:30 AM, keithwjones  wrote:
> 
> Gareth Evans wrote
>> Are there any other scources of help for gnucash?
> 
> Documentation:
> 
> http://gnucash.org/docs.phtml   

Be sure to read the Tutorial and Concepts Guide you find there. Note that those 
documents are also available from inside GnuCash, though Linux/BSD users may 
need to install a separate package (usually called something like gnucash-docs) 
to get them. 

There’s also a lot of good information in the wiki, 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki . You might start 
by skimming the FAQ, https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ 
.

There are a couple of books out there, and any good introduction to accounting 
book or course will give you a leg up if you’re not already experienced with 
double-entry bookkeeping.

Regards,
John Ralls

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RE: General Ledger

[Leo Bolta]

I never majored in accounting but I can still remember "General Journal"
being a standard term often used in Canadian high school accounting about 50
years ago.  Recently I picked up an Ontario, Canada bookkeeping text book
from 1882.  It makes a distinction between what are called "Day Books,
Journals and Ledgers".  I'll try to photograph some relative pages in the
next few days and attach them in a post.
Leo

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+lbolta=rogers@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
Buddha Buck
Sent: February-26-18 7:34 AM
To: elvis
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: General Ledger

It's not an Australian accounting thing, unless I managed to grab Australian
book out of my small-city upstate New York library system some 30 years
ago...


On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:38 AM elvis  wrote:

> On 25/02/18 07:54, Dave H wrote:
> > Well from my point of view that is confusing.  Nobody in my world 
> > refers
> to
> > a "General Journal" we refer to the "General Ledger" and we do 
> > journals
> > :-)  I've never actually heard the term general journal used 
> > anywhere before until this discussion over the weekend !!!
>
> You weren't in my accounting class where we got the use of the general 
> journal beaten into us :-) I can still remember it 30 years later. 
> Maybe it's an Australian accounting thing.
> > Cheers Dave H.
> >
> > On 24 February 2018 at 19:58, Geert Janssens 
> >  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
>
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Re: importing splits

[elvis]

On 24/02/18 03:39, Geert Janssens wrote:

Op vrijdag 23 februari 2018 16:06:37 CET schreef Jeff Abrahamson:

Thanks.  I see my question wasn't clear.  My problem is that I want to
import the splits and it seems I can only import transactions.

I.e. (super simplified):

 deposit cheque   bank  dx 100.00
 cheque 1Alicemembership rx 50.00
 cheque 2Bob  membership rx 50.00

Jeff

Assuming this is one transaction, you are essentially asking to import multi-
split transactions.

This is not possible in gnucash 2.6, but it will be in 3.0 (which we are
preparing for release, hopefully next month).
I've been importing multi split transactions for years using the qif 
importer. Am I missing something here?


Cheers
Lawrence
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Re: General Ledger

[elvis]

On 25/02/18 07:54, Dave H wrote:

Well from my point of view that is confusing.  Nobody in my world refers to
a "General Journal" we refer to the "General Ledger" and we do journals
:-)  I've never actually heard the term general journal used anywhere
before until this discussion over the weekend !!!


You weren't in my accounting class where we got the use of the general 
journal beaten into us :-) I can still remember it 30 years later. Maybe 
it's an Australian accounting thing.

Cheers Dave H.

On 24 February 2018 at 19:58, Geert Janssens 
wrote:




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