Re: Problem With Current Assets

[Adrien Monteleone]

Wm,

I don’t think there is a bug. I think this is user error.

It was the same-name issue that caused my confusion on where in the tree I was 
when assigning the parent. I was accidentally trying to set the account as its 
own parent, which triggers the error message since that is an impossibility. 
Certainly, I have many accounts with duplicate names, though they lie in 
different places in the tree.

Since the OP never replied back, I don’t know if that was their issue or not. 
Anyhow, they solved the problem by restoring an earlier file and proceeding 
again.


Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:25 PM, Wm via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> On 27/02/2018 19:59, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> Playing around, I managed to trigger the error message.
>> I selected an account and then clicked the edit button. I then tried to 
>> re-assign it to itself as the parent. Of course, this is impossible.
> 
> gnc actually does some well thought out movements if you delete an account 
> instead of moving it, if you want to experiment you create a new account, 
> delete the old one and see if it does what you expect.
> 
>> Not sure if that’s what happened in your case. And for me, I recall now 
>> naming did play a part. Because I had some accounts very similarly named and 
>> I wasn’t paying close enough attention to the tree, I was attempting to 
>> place an account under itself rather than a different account.
> 
> If you can repeat that it is probably worth while doing a bug file.
> 
> placing accounts with the same name in a tree works very well in gnc as a rule
> 
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Re: Gnucash Crashing

[Adrien Monteleone]

I was using .19 before I moved to High Sierra and I just applied the .3 update 
two days ago. Normally, I just leave GC running 24/7, but I just tested closing 
and re-opening several times successfully.

Sounds like you’ve got something amiss with your system or profile.

Does a new user profile on the mac have the same issues?


Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 28, 2018, at 12:05 PM, J.L. Sundstrom  wrote:
> 
> Recently upgraded to 10.13.3 and had to upgrade Gnucash (GC 2.6.19) to work 
> with it.  All was well until installing “recommended” update to 10.13.3 
> (character sequence can cause crash) on 2/22/18.  After that, opening and 
> closing GC and then trying subsequent opening GC crashes (Apple info 
> available if wanted).  Discovered work-around of reinstalling GC which opens 
> the app and I can use it without problem.  But, close it and try to open 
> again… it crashes.  Any ideas why this would be the case?  It appears that 
> Apple’s update broke 2.6.19.
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Re: Liabilities / Accounts

[Wm via gnucash-user]

On 27/02/2018 17:53, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

James,

Everyone has their own methods, but the Tutorial & Concepts Guide has a 
suggestion that I’ve followed and it’s served me well.

I always enter transactions working in the account register the money is coming 
FROM.

I never use the General Journal/Ledger.

In the case of a liability/expense situation, consider entering it in the 
particular liability register (Rent Due in your case) since it’s the liability 
that is ‘paying’ the expense until you actually fork over the cash. (and then 
enter that final payment transaction from the cash/checking register)

This way you will always keep the splits straight. Money always moves from one 
account to another, and if you're already in the FROM account, the TO account 
is much simpler to figure out.

Also, since this is likely to be a recurring transaction and the amount is 
likely to remain stable, consider learning how to use the Scheduled Transaction 
feature. You can have these weekly transactions automatically created for you. 
(with the ability to review and adjust them first) Then you’d only need to 
manually enter the actual payment each month when you make it.


I agree about the rent but also think the payments should be made 
regular too.  It just makes life easier.


If I look at all the future stuff in the general ledger once a week or 
once a month I have a close to real future transaction flow.


I commend accounting in advance when it is obvious.

--
Wm

It would make sense if Trump *planned* to lose people as he loses them 
so often.  But does that makes him an asset stripper or just careless as 
he is losing his son-in-law too ?






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Fwd: gnucash 2.7.5 segfault when typing in account field

[Mathieu Clabaut]

As requested by the gnucash-devel mailing list owner, I forward this
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Best regards,

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From: Mathieu Clabaut 
Date: lun. 26 févr. 2018 à 23:14
Subject: gnucash 2.7.5 segfault when typing in account field
To: 


Trying least gnucash 2.7.5 on arch linux 4.15.5, I get the following stack
trace when trying to edit the account of one transaction :
gtk3 has version 3.22.28-1


   PID: 16105 (gnucash)
   UID: 1000 (clabaut)
   GID: 1000 (clabaut)
Signal: 11 (SEGV)
 Timestamp: Mon 2018-02-26 23:04:55 CET (2min 28s ago)
  Command Line: gnucash /tmp/account.gnucash
Executable: /usr/bin/gnucash
 Control Group: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-c2.scope
  Unit: session-c2.scope
 Slice: user-1000.slice
   Session: c2
 Owner UID: 1000 (clabaut)
   Storage:
/var/lib/systemd/coredump/core.gnucash.1000.a06b0c2bd03041caa10965740c06cdee.16105.151968269500.lz4
   Message: Process 16105 (gnucash) of user 1000 dumped core.

Stack trace of thread 16105:
#0  0x7f32dc645d42 n/a (libgdk-3.so.0)
#1  0x7f32dc67e20f gdk_x11_window_get_xid
(libgdk-3.so.0)
#2  0x7f32acb5da73 n/a (im-xim.so)
#3  0x7f32df0da6e4 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0)
#4  0x7f32dcb208ae n/a (libgncmod-register-gnome.so)
#5  0x7f32df0fbe78 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0)
#6  0x7f32de8d3db1 n/a (libgobject-2.0.so.0)
#7  0x7f32de8f04b4 g_signal_emit_valist
(libgobject-2.0.so.0)
#8  0x7f32de8f1240 g_signal_emit (libgobject-2.0.so.0)
#9  0x7f32df24f2c5 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0)
#10 0x7f32df270ae4 gtk_window_propagate_key_event
(libgtk-3.so.0)
#11 0x7f32df27472c n/a (libgtk-3.so.0)
#12 0x7f32df0fbe78 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0)
#13 0x7f32de8d3ea6 n/a (libgobject-2.0.so.0)
#14 0x7f32de8f04b4 g_signal_emit_valist
(libgobject-2.0.so.0)
#15 0x7f32de8f1240 g_signal_emit (libgobject-2.0.so.0)
#16 0x7f32df24f2c5 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0)
#17 0x7f32df0f8cb2 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0)
#18 0x7f32df0fae33 gtk_main_do_event (libgtk-3.so.0)
#19 0x7f32dc6359f6 n/a (libgdk-3.so.0)
#20 0x7f32dc668275 n/a (libgdk-3.so.0)
#21 0x7f32df82be38 g_main_context_dispatch
(libglib-2.0.so.0)
#22 0x7f32df82c081 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
#23 0x7f32df82c3b2 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0)
#24 0x7f32df0f9eff gtk_main (libgtk-3.so.0)
#25 0x7f32de626ecf gnc_ui_start_event_loop
(libgncmod-gnome-utils.so)
#26 0x55ea50d57446 n/a (gnucash)
#27 0x7f32dfb549ee n/a (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#28 0x7f32dfb355fa n/a (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#29 0x7f32dfbbc83d n/a (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#30 0x7f32dfbbf10b scm_call_n (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#31 0x7f32dfbad79b n/a (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#32 0x7f32dfb35c32 n/a (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#33 0x7f32dfb35d16 scm_c_with_continuation_barrier
(libguile-2.2.so.1)
#34 0x7f32dfbac1dd n/a (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#35 0x7f32db25e855 GC_call_with_stack_base (libgc.so.1)
#36 0x7f32dfbac559 scm_with_guile (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#37 0x7f32dfb54be4 scm_boot_guile (libguile-2.2.so.1)
#38 0x55ea50d56cfd main (gnucash)
#39 0x7f32dd5b7f4a __libc_start_main (libc.so.6)
#40 0x55ea50d56eda _start (gnucash)

Stack trace of thread 16107:
#0  0x7f32dd68297b __poll (libc.so.6)
#1  0x7f32df82bff3 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
#2  0x7f32df82c10e g_main_context_iteration
(libglib-2.0.so.0)
#3  0x7f32df82c162 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
#4  0x7f32df85426a n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0)
#5  0x7f32dd95508c start_thread (libpthread.so.0)
#6  0x7f32dd68ce7f __clone (libc.so.6)

Stack trace of thread 16111:
#0  0x7f32dd95b3bd pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2
(libpthread.so.0)
#1  0x7f32db265b98 n/a (libgc.so.1)
#2  0x7f32db25b39a n/a (libgc.so.1)
#3  0x7f32db265b4f n/a (libgc.so.1)
#4  0x7f32dd95508c start_thread (libpthread.so.0)
#5  0x7f32dd68ce7f __clone (libc.so.6)

Stack trace of thread 16112:
#0  0x7f32dd95b3bd pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2
(libpthread.so.0)

Re: When matching let me select from all uncleared transactions

[Brian Hoth]

   Thank you, what really surprises me is when the amount is the same and
   it still cannot match it!

   On 03/01/2018 11:35 AM, David Carlson wrote:

   Hi Bhoth,
   The  following bug report was supposed to address this issue but I
   could not state the problem adequately to get the developers to
   understand it.
   [1]https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776636
   I am trying again.
   David C

   On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:45 AM, bhoth <[2]bh...@comcast.net> wrote:

 Hi All, occasionally, when I download transactions from the bank,
 GnuCash
 does not match correctly and when I try and select the correct
 transaction,
 it's not there to choose from.
 Is there a way to open up the list to all uncleared transactions?
 If not can this be a future feature to be added?
 Thank you
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Re: GNUcash setup

[Adrien Monteleone]

Ken,

Welcome to Gnucash!

If you’re going to file only one return for yourself and not for each business 
separately, it is likely best to keep everything in one file. Others may 
recommend other setups, but for me, each separate entity gets its own book. If 
the entities aren’t really separate but just pass-throughs, then they don’t get 
their own book.

Certainly, ask for a CPA’s opinion on this with regard to any nuances for your 
specific circumstance and jurisdiction.

First off, I’d re-label the “Income” top account to “Revenue” as it’s more 
business oriented. Then create separate sub-accounts for each business and for 
personal income.

For each business, create the necessary revenue sub-accounts as you want to 
track them. (for example, by category or type of sales for each. I have more 
than one service I offer so I have separate revenue accounts to track how much 
work I earn for each.)

For personal, consider creating income accounts based on how you get paid from 
each business. (Draw, salary, dividends, etc.) Also don’t forget to keep the 
Gifts Received and other items (Misc, Interest income, etc.) under the Personal 
set of revenue accounts. Your CPA might have other recommendations, but 
generally, if you don’t segregate funds and just spend for yourself whatever is 
available, that’s likely consider an Owner’s Draw in most cases.

You will likely also have to create separation for expenses, and possibly some 
assets and liabilities.(but if they are pass-throughs, each business probably 
doesn’t own assets and you might likely be personally responsible for any debt)

There are two basic paths - separate account trees for each business, or 
sub-accounts under every relevant account for each business. It’s up to you. 
When you create your P for each entity, just select the relevant accounts. 
(and as just noted, if these are pass-throughs, likely the assets & liabilities 
all belong to you, so you only need one Balance Sheet)

With respect to taxes, look at the tax report options under the Edit menu. 
You’ll have to arrange this for your particular situation. (the accounts need 
to be created first)

Concerning project based analysis, that one is a bit tough. Gnucash does offer 
the ability to create ‘jobs’ for both customers and vendors, however the 
feature is severely limited. You can only have one job per vendor per customer 
for chargeback purposes. Frankly, it fits a very narrow use case. Most projects 
involve multiple vendors. And, a job for a vendor isn’t necessarily the same 
actual job for the customer. They might have the same name, but those are two 
separate ‘jobs’ in the system. (the feature doesn’t have an ‘entity’ called, 
“jobs” that is independently managed or reported on, instead, a job is just a 
tag added to both customers and vendors) There also is no way to tag manual 
entries as part of a job. Some here on the list have some creative ways of 
working around this using sub-accounts or the memo lines of transactions and 
some fiddling with the transaction report, but more than likely, you’ll still 
have to export some data to a spreadsheet or other software to get a good 
picture for job-costing/profit type analysis.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 1, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Ken G. Brown  wrote:
> 
> Just getting set up on GNUcash for the first time and would like some 
> recommendations.
> 
> I have two separate proprietorship type business ventures that I want to 
> track separately and that both get rolled up into my personal income taxes 
> that I also want to use GNUcash for e.g. medical, house expenses, utilities 
> etc. Within the businesses, I would also like to keep certain projects 
> separate in order to easily see and report on project details. A portion of 
> my utilities and house expenses would get expensed to the businesses because 
> of home office space.
> 
> What is the best way to handle this tracking via one set of accounts? Or is 
> it best to keep separate data files for each of personal, business #1, 
> business #2?
> 
> Thx for any tips or insight.
> Ken G. Brown
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