Re: Close books?

[Adrien Monteleone]

There is an option in File > Properties to set how many days previous is the 
cut-off for read-only transactions, but it seems you want this on a per-account 
basis.

As noted in other replies, I’d examine the rationale for ‘really, really” not 
wanting to edit a previous entry.
Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 24, 2018, at 5:49 PM, .  wrote:
> 
>   How can you prevent further editing or changes (unless you really,
>   really must) to a credit card account at the end of a year?  That is-
>   lock the credit card account with no further changes possible without
>   some sort of password or prompt?
>   Thanks,
>   Carl
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Re: database problem with invoices to more than one customer

[Adrien Monteleone]

If you create a new invoice, and for the customer name, start typing a 
particular customer name, does the full name of the customer not appear as an 
auto-suggestion? can you not specify a specific customer? (other than one 
already entered)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 24, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Vario816 <993...@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> hi folks,
> 
> i am a newbie here. i had installed GnuCash a couple of days ago and have
> been through some 
> tutorials since. All good. 
> 
> However, at the moment I am failing to create invoices to more than one
> customer.
> I have added a number of various customers and then I started creating
> invoices. 
> 
> But already on the first invoice to another/different customer the info on
> the first customer which 
> I have ever entered pops back in the menu 'billing information'. I have
> tried all ways through various menu shortcuts trying to create more
> invoices. But the problem remains. In the first step it I can 
> also search for other customers I entered and saved b4 and add them together
> with invoice ID, job 
> and billing ID.
> 
> But after pressing 'ok' then everytime the ever first made entry/name in the
> customer database
> pops up under 'billing information'. 
> 
> Now, I am stuck. I am limited to book invoices for one customer only...
> 
> Can anyone in the community assist, please? 
> 
> Win7Pro - 64 bit - GnuCash 2.6.19
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Gnucash and 529 plans

[Steve Kelem]

   I have a question about recording 529-plan transactions in GnuCash.

   Not the basic movement of funds between checking and 529 account, as
   discussed 7 times in the GnuCash archives.

   There are two aspects of the 529 plan. The first is getting money into
   and out of the 529 account. Easy peesy. Already solved.

   The second is making sure that all of the expenditures for the 529 plan
   (tuition, books, room and board), are matched by a corresponding
   withdrawal from the 529 account. That's the part that I don't
   understand how to do. The payment transaction already has a source (my
   checking account) and a destination (the account representing how much
   I've paid to the university. Similarly for the 529 account
   disbursement. How do I keep track of whether I've requested enough
   disbursements?

   Ideally, when I pay for tuition, for example,
1. The funds go out of my checking account into the university
2. I need to make a disbursement request from my 529 plan
3. The disbursement gets deposited into my bank account.

   (Repeat for books, room & board...)

   My usual problems are remembering to make the disbursement request, and
   not being able to check that I don't miss a disbursement request or
   make a duplicate request.

   It would be nice if there were an account that got a copy of the
   tuition payment and a corresponding debit for the disbursement request.
   If the account balance is zero, they I'm presumably up-to-date. If the
   balance is positive, I need to request a disbursement.

   Is there such a mechanism?

   Thanks for any help you can give,
   Steve
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Re: Close books?

[Liz]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:49:10 -0400
"."  wrote:

>How can you prevent further editing or changes (unless you really,
>really must) to a credit card account at the end of a year?  That
> is- lock the credit card account with no further changes possible
> without some sort of password or prompt?
>Thanks,
>Carl
> 

I'm not understanding exactly why you need to do this.
Are you closing the credit card account?
Are you closing the books at the end of a financial period?


You would need to be sure you had finished with the account, that is
reconciliation completed, no further entries to be recategorised, and
so on.
Your "really, really must" is what makes me ask. What circumstances
would make you 'allow' a change?

Liz
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Re: database problem with invoices to more than one customer

[Maf. King]

On Saturday, 24 March 2018 21:05:32 GMT Vario816 wrote:
> hi folks,

> But after pressing 'ok' then everytime the ever first made entry/name in the
> customer database
> pops up under 'billing information'.
> 
> Now, I am stuck. I am limited to book invoices for one customer only...
> 
> Can anyone in the community assist, please?
> 

Hi, welcome to GC & the list.

Sorry, can't think of anything to suggest to help right now, but I can assure 
you that I have created many invoices and have never seen what you are 
describing.

Can you go through a step-by-step process with more screenshots?

Maf.

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Re: Close books?

[Maf. King]

On Saturday, 24 March 2018 22:49:10 GMT . wrote:
>How can you prevent further editing or changes (unless you really,
>really must) to a credit card account at the end of a year?  That is-
>lock the credit card account with no further changes possible without
>some sort of password or prompt?
>Thanks,
>Carl


Hi Carl,

You can make the account a "placeholder" - that may help you.

from the list of accounts - "edit" the credit card and tick placeholder

HTH,
Maf.

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Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Maf. King]

On Saturday, 24 March 2018 22:36:29 GMT Stan Brown wrote:
> On 2018-03-24 16:56, Buddha Buck wrote:> In general, I wouldn't bother
> entering starting balances for income
> 
> > and expense accounts from before the period I am accounting for
> 
> I agree, and I'd go further: don't enter opening balances when creating
> _any_ account. Instead, enter the opening balances as a transaction as
> of the end of the previous year (or accounting period), with a balancing
> entry to your equity account. If you discover a mistake, you can always
> edit the transaction. But if you enter an opening balance on the New
> Account dialog, and later discover a mistake, you can't correct it --
> or, if you can, I've been unable to discover a way to do it.

Hi Stan,

there's nothing special about the opening balance transaction - it is editable 
in the register just like any other transaction.  Of course, if you've got the 
"read only after x days" option enabled, then that may prevent a modification.

HTH,
Maf.
 
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Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Dale Alspach]

I think you had the right idea. If your wages through Sept. 30 totals
$20,000 you would credit wages $20,000 and debit opening balance equity
$20,000. If your groceries expenses were $5000, debit grocery expense $5000
and credit opening balance equity $5,000. You are just establishing the
starting balance you are not entering real transactions.

Dale

On Mar 24, 2018 5:52 PM,  wrote:

Yes my accounting year started on jan 1.  So where I stand right now, is
all assets, liabilities, income and expense have the correct balance as of
9-30.  But they all require an offset account.  The problem is I've already
taken into consideration the offset account by using their balance as of
9-30.  For example, my wages were already offset into my Checking account,
and that balance has been updated as of 9-30.  I tried ignoring the Opening
Balance account net value just now, but it requires an offset account.

I so appreciate all of your ideas.  I think at this point, I'm going to
need to start Jan 1 of either 2017 or 2018.  Doesn't look like there is an
option to start mid-year.


-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of Dale Alspach
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 5:34 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

In that case your first entry should be income total from the start of the
accounting year to Sept. 30 and you should be doing the analogous thing for
all accounts. ( I am assuming that your accounting year started on January
1 or some other date prior to Sept. 30.) By doing this you will be
establishing the status of all accounts at the time you quit using
Microsoft Money. I suggest ignoring the Opening Balance account net value.
Instead concentrate on getting each account to have the correct balance as
of Sept. 30, i.e., to agree with Microsoft Money (up to any restructuring
of the accounts), before you begin entering post Sept. 30 transactions. I
know nothing about Microsoft Money but I assume you can get an
income-expense (profit-loss) report and a balance sheet as of Sept. 30.
Running the same reports in gnucash should help you check your starting
point.

Dale

On 03/24/2018 04:51 PM, lnor...@mchsi.com wrote:
> I wasn't starting at the beginning of the year.
> I stopped using Microsoft Money as of September, and have been fighting
Quicken but recently realized it doesn't use a double entry system.  so I
was hoping to start at 9-30 to be able to calculate net income for 2017.
I'd like to calculate 2017 net income if possible.
>
> When I set up my Income and Expense categories, it gave me the option to
establish an opening balance.  But offset Equity.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
>  On Behalf Of Dave
> H
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:33 PM
> To: Adrien Monteleone 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts
>
> Aha good question Adrien, mine also only has Asset and Liabilities in
> the Opening Balances :-)
>
> Cheers Dave H.
>
> On 25 March 2018 at 06:29, Adrien Monteleone
> 
> wrote:
>
>> How do you have an opening balance for income or expenses at the
>> beginning of the year? You haven’t earned or spent anything yet.
>>
>> You should be starting off with opening balances for assets and
>> liabilities. Then as you earn and spend, the net of those newer
>> entries are virtually calculated as ‘retained earnings/losses’ unless
>> or until you close the books with an official entry to equity. (which
>> is neither necessary, or necessarily desirable in Gnucash)
>>
>> Income should be balanced with debits to an asset(where the money
>> went to), not equity.
>> Expenses should be balanced with credits to an asset(where the money
>> came from), not equity.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Lori Norden  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am starting Gnucash in the beginning of the year.  As I’m entering
>>> the
>> beginning balance for each income and expense account, a transfer is
>> being made to my Equity Opening Balance account.
>>>
>>> For income beginning balance entries – credits income; debits Equity
>> Opening Balance
>>> For expense beginning balance entries – debits expense, credits
>>> Equity
>> Opening Balance
>>>
>>> The problem is my Equity is reduced by the amount of net income I
>>> made
>> as of the beginning date, but should be increased.
>>>
>>> Should I be offsetting the beginning balances for income and expense
>>> to
>> something other than Equity Opening Balance?  That’s what I thought
>> the instructions indicated I should do.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>
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Close books?

[.]

   How can you prevent further editing or changes (unless you really,
   really must) to a credit card account at the end of a year?  That is-
   lock the credit card account with no further changes possible without
   some sort of password or prompt?
   Thanks,
   Carl
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Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Dale Alspach]

In that case your first entry should be income total from the start of
the accounting year to Sept. 30 and you should be doing the analogous
thing for all accounts. ( I am assuming that your accounting year
started on January 1 or some other date prior to Sept. 30.) By doing
this you will be establishing the status of all accounts at the time you
quit using Microsoft Money. I suggest ignoring the Opening Balance
account net value. Instead concentrate on getting each account to have
the correct balance as of Sept. 30, i.e., to agree with Microsoft Money
(up to any restructuring of the accounts), before you begin entering
post Sept. 30 transactions. I know nothing about Microsoft Money but I
assume you can get an income-expense (profit-loss) report and a balance
sheet as of Sept. 30. Running the same reports in gnucash should help
you check your starting point.

Dale

On 03/24/2018 04:51 PM, lnor...@mchsi.com wrote:
> I wasn't starting at the beginning of the year.
> I stopped using Microsoft Money as of September, and have been fighting 
> Quicken but recently realized it doesn't use a double entry system.  so I was 
> hoping to start at 9-30 to be able to calculate net income for 2017.  I'd 
> like to calculate 2017 net income if possible.
>   
> When I set up my Income and Expense categories, it gave me the option to 
> establish an opening balance.  But offset Equity.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user  On 
> Behalf Of Dave H
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:33 PM
> To: Adrien Monteleone 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts
> 
> Aha good question Adrien, mine also only has Asset and Liabilities in the 
> Opening Balances :-)
> 
> Cheers Dave H.
> 
> On 25 March 2018 at 06:29, Adrien Monteleone 
> wrote:
> 
>> How do you have an opening balance for income or expenses at the 
>> beginning of the year? You haven’t earned or spent anything yet.
>>
>> You should be starting off with opening balances for assets and 
>> liabilities. Then as you earn and spend, the net of those newer 
>> entries are virtually calculated as ‘retained earnings/losses’ unless 
>> or until you close the books with an official entry to equity. (which 
>> is neither necessary, or necessarily desirable in Gnucash)
>>
>> Income should be balanced with debits to an asset(where the money went 
>> to), not equity.
>> Expenses should be balanced with credits to an asset(where the money 
>> came from), not equity.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Lori Norden  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am starting Gnucash in the beginning of the year.  As I’m entering 
>>> the
>> beginning balance for each income and expense account, a transfer is 
>> being made to my Equity Opening Balance account.
>>>
>>> For income beginning balance entries – credits income; debits Equity
>> Opening Balance
>>> For expense beginning balance entries – debits expense, credits 
>>> Equity
>> Opening Balance
>>>
>>> The problem is my Equity is reduced by the amount of net income I 
>>> made
>> as of the beginning date, but should be increased.
>>>
>>> Should I be offsetting the beginning balances for income and expense 
>>> to
>> something other than Equity Opening Balance?  That’s what I thought 
>> the instructions indicated I should do.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: keyboard shortcut (view double line)

[Dave H]

Roger,

Thanks for that works, like a charm and the shortcuts even show up in the
GnuCash Menus.  You just have to ensure your new shortcut doesn't clash
with an existing GnuCash shortcut :-)

Cheers Dave H.


On 25 March 2018 at 07:33, Roger Miskowicz  wrote:

> I don't think there is one, but if there is one, it should be specified in:
>
> /home/user/.gnucash/accelerator-map, or
> /home/roger/.local/share/gnucash/accelerator-map  (depending on version of
> gnucash)
>
> In any case you might be able to use procedure in:
>
> https://superuser.com/questions/1185318/how-do-i-
> add-a-new-keyboard-shortcut-in-gnucash
>
> to set one up.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 3:51 PM, cohomike  wrote:
>
> > Is there a keyboard shortcut to view double-line mode in registers? A way
> > to
> > toggle the display back and forth?
> >
> >
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Re: keyboard shortcut (view double line)

[Roger Miskowicz]

I don't think there is one, but if there is one, it should be specified in:

/home/user/.gnucash/accelerator-map, or
/home/roger/.local/share/gnucash/accelerator-map  (depending on version of
gnucash)

In any case you might be able to use procedure in:

https://superuser.com/questions/1185318/how-do-i-add-a-new-keyboard-shortcut-in-gnucash

to set one up.



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> to
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database problem with invoices to more than one customer

[Vario816]

hi folks,

i am a newbie here. i had installed GnuCash a couple of days ago and have
been through some 
tutorials since. All good. 

However, at the moment I am failing to create invoices to more than one
customer.
I have added a number of various customers and then I started creating
invoices. 

But already on the first invoice to another/different customer the info on
the first customer which 
I have ever entered pops back in the menu 'billing information'. I have
tried all ways through various menu shortcuts trying to create more
invoices. But the problem remains. In the first step it I can 
also search for other customers I entered and saved b4 and add them together
with invoice ID, job 
and billing ID.

But after pressing 'ok' then everytime the ever first made entry/name in the
customer database
pops up under 'billing information'. 

Now, I am stuck. I am limited to book invoices for one customer only...

Can anyone in the community assist, please? 

Win7Pro - 64 bit - GnuCash 2.6.19


 



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Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Buddha Buck]

In general, I wouldn't bother entering starting balances for income and
expense accounts from before the period I am accounting for. Traditionally,
those accounts were temporary, and at the end of the accounting period the
balances would be reset to zero, being transferred to equity. That isn't
necessary in GnuCash (because for reporting purposes GnuCash can calculate
what would have been transferred and include that in the reports), but it's
a good way to think of it in terms of fundamentals.

But to understand the situation you have, consider what happens when you
get income or pay expenses.

Normally, when you receive income (a credit), you also increase an asset (a
debit) by the same amount. My salary is direct-deposited, and my bank
balance goes up. If I put in a starting balance into an income account
(say, I'm starting using GnuCash on April 1st, and I'm putting in my YTD
salary), but don't increase an asset, then the money from that income no
longer exists, and it has to go somewhere. In your case, it's decreasing
your equity. It's effectively the same as getting a $100 bill and losing it
on the street. You record you got $100, but you don't have it anymore, so
your equity goes down by $100.

Expenses work just the opposite: when you pay an expense (a debit), you
also decrease an asset (a credit) by the same amount. I buy breakfast at
the local cafe by debit card, and my bank balance goes down. If I put in a
starting balance into an expense account (say, I'm starting using GnuCash
on April 1st, and I'm putting in my YTD breakfast payments), but don't
decrease an asset, then the money I spent never existed,and it has to come
from somewhere. In your case, it's increasing your equity. It's effectively
the same as eating a $100 dinner and having it comped by the restaurant.
You record you spend $100, but you didn't actually spend the money, so your
equity goes up by $100.

In the end, it all comes out as a wash: The reports will add your income
starting balance and subtract your expense starting balance as part of
computing your "retained earnings", which will be added to your equity. So
the income starting balance transaction will cancel itself out, as will the
expense starting balance transaction.



On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 4:10 PM Lori Norden  wrote:

> I am starting Gnucash in the beginning of the year.  As I’m entering the
> beginning balance for each income and expense account, a transfer is being
> made to my Equity Opening Balance account.
>
> For income beginning balance entries – credits income; debits Equity
> Opening Balance
> For expense beginning balance entries – debits expense, credits Equity
> Opening Balance
>
> The problem is my Equity is reduced by the amount of net income I made as
> of the beginning date, but should be increased.
>
> Should I be offsetting the beginning balances for income and expense to
> something other than Equity Opening Balance?  That’s what I thought the
> instructions indicated I should do.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
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Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Adrien Monteleone]

I first started to type that as my reply till I took a closer look at her 
entries. Equity increases with a credit, but you can’t have a credit to equity 
and a credit to income to increase both without one or more debits to other 
accounts to balance the transaction.

Though it doesn’t hurt to check that setting to ensure it is sane for your 
personal view of things.

When you think about what income and expenses are, they really can’t have 
opening balances. Technically you can, but then they’d function as ’negative 
entries’ with an effect of being ‘prior period’ corrections once all the math 
works out. It’s just too confusing to bother.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Dave H  wrote:
> 
> Check your Preferences >> Accounts >> Reverse Balanced Accounts setting - I
> have mine set to "Credit Accounts" which reverses the balance in my
> Equity:Opening Balances account.
> 
> Cheers Dave H.
> 
> 
> On 25 March 2018 at 06:09, Lori Norden  wrote:
> 
>> I am starting Gnucash in the beginning of the year.  As I’m entering the
>> beginning balance for each income and expense account, a transfer is being
>> made to my Equity Opening Balance account.
>> 
>> For income beginning balance entries – credits income; debits Equity
>> Opening Balance
>> For expense beginning balance entries – debits expense, credits Equity
>> Opening Balance
>> 
>> The problem is my Equity is reduced by the amount of net income I made as
>> of the beginning date, but should be increased.
>> 
>> Should I be offsetting the beginning balances for income and expense to
>> something other than Equity Opening Balance?  That’s what I thought the
>> instructions indicated I should do.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Dave H]

Check your Preferences >> Accounts >> Reverse Balanced Accounts setting - I
have mine set to "Credit Accounts" which reverses the balance in my
Equity:Opening Balances account.

Cheers Dave H.


On 25 March 2018 at 06:09, Lori Norden  wrote:

> I am starting Gnucash in the beginning of the year.  As I’m entering the
> beginning balance for each income and expense account, a transfer is being
> made to my Equity Opening Balance account.
>
> For income beginning balance entries – credits income; debits Equity
> Opening Balance
> For expense beginning balance entries – debits expense, credits Equity
> Opening Balance
>
> The problem is my Equity is reduced by the amount of net income I made as
> of the beginning date, but should be increased.
>
> Should I be offsetting the beginning balances for income and expense to
> something other than Equity Opening Balance?  That’s what I thought the
> instructions indicated I should do.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Adrien Monteleone]

How do you have an opening balance for income or expenses at the beginning of 
the year? You haven’t earned or spent anything yet.

You should be starting off with opening balances for assets and liabilities. 
Then as you earn and spend, the net of those newer entries are virtually 
calculated as ‘retained earnings/losses’ unless or until you close the books 
with an official entry to equity. (which is neither necessary, or necessarily 
desirable in Gnucash)

Income should be balanced with debits to an asset(where the money went to), not 
equity.
Expenses should be balanced with credits to an asset(where the money came 
from), not equity.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Lori Norden  wrote:
> 
> I am starting Gnucash in the beginning of the year.  As I’m entering the 
> beginning balance for each income and expense account, a transfer is being 
> made to my Equity Opening Balance account.
> 
> For income beginning balance entries – credits income; debits Equity Opening 
> Balance
> For expense beginning balance entries – debits expense, credits Equity 
> Opening Balance
> 
> The problem is my Equity is reduced by the amount of net income I made as of 
> the beginning date, but should be increased.
> 
> Should I be offsetting the beginning balances for income and expense to 
> something other than Equity Opening Balance?  That’s what I thought the 
> instructions indicated I should do.
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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beginning balance of income and expense accounts

[Lori Norden]

I am starting Gnucash in the beginning of the year.  As I’m entering the 
beginning balance for each income and expense account, a transfer is being made 
to my Equity Opening Balance account.

For income beginning balance entries – credits income; debits Equity Opening 
Balance
For expense beginning balance entries – debits expense, credits Equity Opening 
Balance

The problem is my Equity is reduced by the amount of net income I made as of 
the beginning date, but should be increased.

Should I be offsetting the beginning balances for income and expense to 
something other than Equity Opening Balance?  That’s what I thought the 
instructions indicated I should do.

Thanks for your help

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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keyboard shortcut (view double line)

[cohomike]

Is there a keyboard shortcut to view double-line mode in registers? A way to
toggle the display back and forth?



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Re: Compiling -DWITH_GNUCASH=NO

[John Ralls]

> On Mar 24, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Matthew Pounsett  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 March 2018 at 11:59, John Ralls  > wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Matthew Pounsett > > wrote:
>> 
>> On 23 March 2018 at 00:35, Geert Janssens > >
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ideally this would become part of libgnucash in order to make the report
>>> generation platform independent as well (and hence opening the way to make
>>> it
>>> accessible one day on android or osx platforms). This will only be
>>> possible at
>>> the cost of moving away from scheme as reporting engine unfortunately as
>>> that
>>> would not be portable...
>>> 
>> 
>> lua maybe?  It seems popular and portable.. and it's already on my personal
>> education roadmap. :)
> 
> Apple’s rules for iOS include *no interpreters*. That means no Guile, no 
> Python, no Lua, no Ruby, no Javascript.
> 
> That's a shame.  But doesn't that pretty much rule out having an easily 
> expandable reporting engine on iOS?

Not really. The report module in GnuCash is very much done “the hard way”. 
Plain queries and a simple processor to wrap the results in html along with a 
bit of css would get the same results with a lot less effort; add a 
query-by-example UI and the result would be infinitely more user friendly. I 
exaggerated a bit about Javascript because iOS includes Safari and it obviously 
has a javascript interpreter in it. I don’t know UIKit very well but I’d be 
surprised if it doesn’t expose some sort of browser-like view that we could use 
for displaying reports.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: Date limit on transactions / freezing transactions

[Stan Brown]

On 2018-03-24 09:53, Maf. King wrote:

> From the little I know about these things, I think that your export/import 
> experiments will have more chance of success if you wait for v3 which is in 
> the works at the moment.

I doubt I'll be ready before then anyway, so it works out. It's taken me
quite a while to input 2011 and 2012 and reconcile them with my dBase
file, though of course it was far from full-time work, and some of that
was just learning GnuCash. I still have 2013-2017 to do before I even
think about consolidating the two files.

> IIRC, GC can't read it's own exports at present, 

Oh my -- I had no idea. That _is_ disconcerting, but thanks for the
heads-up.

> but the new version is supposedly going to be better at importing.
Ojalá que sí. :-)

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Re: Thanks and solution to "incorrect starting balance in reconcile."

[Adrien Monteleone]

No need to get all fancy with the in-reply-to coding if you have a mail client 
installed. Simply click the email link of the person making the post you are 
replying to on that archive page and your mail client will dutifully create a 
new blank e-mail with only the mailing list as the recipient(leaving off the 
actual poster), and the proper subject line.(that’s due to mailman actually 
setting up that mailto: link properly on the archive web pages) However, no 
text will be quoted. You’ll have to copy and paste that yourself if desired.

This very reply was in fact made in this fashion rather than clicking the 
‘reply-all’ button in my regular mail client.

If you use webmail, things may be more complicated, but most modern browsers 
allow you to set Gmail or Yahoo as the default mailto: link handler out of the 
box. For other webmail services, most browsers have extensions that can enable 
this, just do a search for “setting webmail as default mailto: handler”.  The 
other caveat to doing this with webmail is you have to be logged in to your 
account already or it likely might not work properly.


Regards,
Adrien

> Adonay Felipe Nogueira adfeno at hyperbola.info 
> Sat Mar 24 09:46:03 EDT 2018
>  
> If I'm not mistaken, even if you happen to *not have* the original
>   message that caome from this mailing list, you can go to the list's
>   archive and once the message is found, you can do this:
> 
>   1. The email address of the person who wrote the message is actually a
>  "mailto" URL, copy it and take the part between "In-Reply-To=" and
>  the next "&" (if any future "&" exists), or the part between
>  "In-Reply-To=" and the end (if no more "&" exists).
> 
>   2. You have now a percent/URL-encoded "In-Reply-To" field value. Like
>  this:
> 
>  
> %3CCADYgSbmaLUFqw8D%2BjqWqJTTVxc7TCYaQsks3VGA65W%3DbtJEoWA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> 
>  "%3C", "%40" and "%3E" are "<", "@" and ">", respectively. Be aware
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Re: Finance::Quote for EE Savings Bonds

[Robin Chattopadhyay]

HI all-

I *thought* I had this working, but either I didn't or something has
changed that I could use some help with.

To recap:
* I saved Ken's file to the ~/perl5/lib/perl5/Finance/Quote
* Added USBonds to the modules variable in ~/perl5/lib/perl5/Finance/
Quote.pm

gnc-fq-dump works perfectly
gnc-fq-check shows usbonds in the source listing
BUT... in Gnucash, USBonds doesn't show up as a source under Security
Editor. I would have expected it under 'Unknown' but it's not there.

Running Gunucash 2.6.19, built from source on Linux Mint 18.3

Thanks,
Robin

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Robin Chattopadhyay 
wrote:

> Ken-
>
> Thank you so much! This worked great.
>
> For the record, I:
> * Saved the file to ~/perl5/lib/perl5/Finance/Quote/
> * Edited ~/perl5/lib/perl5/Finance/Quote.pm to add USBonds to the Modules
> section around Line 180.
>
> The one thing I'll have to change is that up to now, I've been holding the
> EE Savings Bond with the number of units equal to the denomination. So a 50
> USD bond is held as 50 units with a price of 0.6996 USD/unit.
>
> However, gnc-fq-dump usbonds EE-50-2004-05 returned a price of 34.98
> USD/unit. This is not an issue since the market values are the same. I'll
> just exchange my 50 units for 1 unit of a new security and set the new
> security for online quotes.
>
> Thanks again!
> Robin
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 9:26 AM, farleykj  wrote:
>
>> Robin,
>> Were you able to get quotes for your bonds?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Compiling -DWITH_GNUCASH=NO

[Matthew Pounsett]

On 23 March 2018 at 11:59, John Ralls  wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 23, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Matthew Pounsett  wrote:
>
> On 23 March 2018 at 00:35, Geert Janssens 
> wrote:
>
>
> Ideally this would become part of libgnucash in order to make the report
> generation platform independent as well (and hence opening the way to make
> it
> accessible one day on android or osx platforms). This will only be
> possible at
> the cost of moving away from scheme as reporting engine unfortunately as
> that
> would not be portable...
>
>
> lua maybe?  It seems popular and portable.. and it's already on my personal
> education roadmap. :)
>
>
> Apple’s rules for iOS include *no interpreters*. That means no Guile, no
> Python, no Lua, no Ruby, no Javascript.
>

That's a shame.  But doesn't that pretty much rule out having an easily
expandable reporting engine on iOS?


>
> BTW, no, lua isn’t particularly popular: https://insights.
> stackoverflow.com/survey/2017#technology
> https://isocpp.org/files/papers/CppDevSurvey-2018-02-summary.pdf
>
> That shows percentage of all languages, not embedded
scripting/configuration languages.   And speaking from recent personal
experience, lua seems to be gaining in popularity faster than anything else
I've noticed for that purpose.
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Re: Date limit on transactions / freezing transactions

[Maf. King]

On Saturday, 24 March 2018 09:54:15 GMT Stan Brown wrote:
> On 2018-03-24 00:44, David T. wrote>
> > On a side note, I recall you saying you are planning to merge these two
> > files at a later date. Do you have any idea how you plan to do this? I
> > ask, because as far as I know, there is no merge option in gnucash
> > itself. 
> 
> Yes, I found that out when I searched the documentation. Hopefully I can
> do it by exporting transactions from one file and importing them to the
> other.
> 

Hi Stan.

>From the little I know about these things, I think that your export/import 
experiments will have more chance of success if you wait for v3 which is in 
the works at the moment.

IIRC, GC can't read it's own exports at present, but the new version is 
supposedly going to be better at importing.

Maf.


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Re: Thanks and solution to "incorrect starting balance in reconcile."

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

> There is no ’solved’ function of the mailing list. It’s not like a
> forum or ticketing system, it’s just group e-mail.
>
> The best practice if you find a solution you want to specify or
> document is to simply post it as a reply to the original
> thread. (rather than starting a new one)

For those unaware, he's referring to some common pitfalls that even I
made in the beginning of mailing list usage:

- Changing the "Subject" header field.

  Don't put "Solved" or anything. In maximum, you can put "Re:", "Fw:"
  and "(was: ...)", and for this last one, use it in the end.

  If you do want to change the subject only to start a completely
  different topic, do so using something like this: "Sub-topic B (was:
  Let's talk about A)".

  Some email clients or webmails do some nasty stuff with the message
  headers and with parts of the "Subject" field, such as nationalizing
  "Re:", "Fw:" and "(was: ...)", this makes other clients confused.

- Using "Compose new" or simple "Reply".

  Please use "Reply to list/group" instead. You can also use "Reply to
  all" but in this case the original poster will get duplicate emails
  unless you remove his address from the "To" field.

  "Reply" is for private replies to the original poster (in this case
  it's a good idea to change the "Subject" so that the person knows it's
  a private branch of the discussion). The other reply buttons are "wide
  replies".

  All in all, using reply buttons is better than "Compose new" because,
  if you take the time to use your email client or webmail to inspect
  the raw messages you receive, you will see interesting information
  such as "Message-ID", "In-Reply-To", and "References", all of these
  tell us about the hierarchy of the messages and their parent ones,
  when you do "Compose new", this information is lost unless you can
  force the email client or webmail to allow you to insert/add raw
  header fields to the message, in this case you will have to add the
  missing information manually.

  If I'm not mistaken, even if you happen to *not have* the original
  message that caome from this mailing list, you can go to the list's
  archive and once the message is found, you can do this:

  1. The email address of the person who wrote the message is actually a
 "mailto" URL, copy it and take the part between "In-Reply-To=" and
 the next "&" (if any future "&" exists), or the part between
 "In-Reply-To=" and the end (if no more "&" exists).

  2. You have now a percent/URL-encoded "In-Reply-To" field value. Like
 this:

 
%3CCADYgSbmaLUFqw8D%2BjqWqJTTVxc7TCYaQsks3VGA65W%3DbtJEoWA%40mail.gmail.com%3E

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Re: Date limit on transactions / freezing transactions

[Stan Brown]

On 2018-03-24 00:44, David T. wrote> There is a setting that might help
you: File->Properties->Day threshold
> for read-only transactions 

Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for, but I didn't know where
to look. I tried it, and it does just what I need.

> On a side note, I recall you saying you are planning to merge these two
> files at a later date. Do you have any idea how you plan to do this? I
> ask, because as far as I know, there is no merge option in gnucash itself. 

Yes, I found that out when I searched the documentation. Hopefully I can
do it by exporting transactions from one file and importing them to the
other.

> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 2:02, Stan Brown
>  wrote:
> Thanks, but I meant that while I am entering later months, I don't
> want to be able to alter earlier months.  Such an alteration
> happened once, in September 2012 while I was (I thought) entering
> November 2012, and it's only when the 30 November 2012 balance sheet
> didn't match my source database that I discovered it.
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Re: where to share GnuCash python scripts?

[Amish]

For open source codes - GitHub would be a good place.

https://github.com/

On Friday 23 March 2018 11:15 PM, darrylctx wrote:

Where would be the best place to upload the .py files if I wanted to share
them?  Right now, they are pretty raw, but I could clean them up and make
them a little easier to use.  At the least, they are an example of how easy
it is to get data into GC with a few simple python scripts.

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Fwd: Unable to download stock quotes

[Steven Anter]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steven Anter 
Date: Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: Unable to download stock quotes
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org, Chris Good 


My user name is Steven-Hp

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:46 PM, Steven Anter  wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Steven Anter 
> Date: Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Unable to download stock quotes
> To: Chris Good 
>
>
> Chris,
>
> I followed your instructions.  I have 1.47.   Perhaps I should uninstall
> and then reinstall gnucash?
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_-4055756959588455033_m_1583295558011341580_m_-1344617281304295049_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Chris Good 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>>
>>
>> Well that’s strange.
>>
>> Was Gnucash perhaps installed when signed on as another user?
>>
>> Try running the echo command from an administrative command prompt.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you don’t have administrative privileges, login to Windows as a user
>> that does.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another way to check the version of Finance::Quote:
>>
>>   From a command prompt (NOT run as administrator):
>>
>>cpan
>>
>>m Finance::Quote
>>
>>quit
>>
>>
>>
>> If your Finance::Quote is not 1.47:
>>
>> cpan
>>
>>upgrade Finance::Quote
>>
>>quit
>>
>> After you upgrade Finance::Quote you will need to reinstall my fixed
>> YahooJSON.pm.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck, Chris Good
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steven Anter 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2018 4:49 PM
>>
>> *To:* Chris Good 
>> *Subject:* Re: Unable to download stock quotes
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> When I try to execute this:
>>
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin> *perl gnc-fq-check*
>>
>>
>>
>> I get
>>
>> Access Denied
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Virus-free. www.avast.com
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Chris Good 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm.. works for me.
>>
>> What version of Finance::Quote do you have:
>>
>>
>>
>> Do
>>
>>
>>
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin> *perl gnc-fq-check*
>>
>>
>>
>> Response should be:
>>
>> ("*1.47*" "adig" "aex" "aiahk" "alphavantage" "amfiindia" "asegr" "asia"
>> "asx" "australia" "bamosz" "bet" "bmonesbittburns" "bourso" "brasil" "bse"
>> "bsero" "canada" "canadamutual" "citywire" "cominvest" "cse" "deka" "dutch"
>> "dwsfunds" "europe" "fetch_live_currencies" "fidelity" "fidelity_direct"
>> "fidelityfixed" "financecanada" "finanzpartner" "finland" "fool" "france"
>> "ftfunds" "ftportfolios" "ftportfolios_direct" "fundlibrary" "goldmoney"
>> "greece" "hex" "hu" "hufund" "hungary" "hustock" "indiamutual"
>> "known_currencies" "lerevenu" "maninv" "morningstar" "morningstarjp"
>> "mstaruk" "nasdaq" "nyse" "nz" "nzx" "platinum" "romania" "seb_funds"
>> "sixfunds" "sixshares" "stockhousecanada_fund" "tdefunds" "tdwaterhouse"
>> "tiaacref" "tnetuk" "troweprice" "troweprice_direct" "trustnet" "tsp" "tsx"
>> "uk_unit_trusts" "ukfunds" "unionfunds" "usa" "usfedbonds" "vanguard" "vwd"
>> "yahoo" "yahoo_asia" "yahoo_australia" "yahoo_brasil" "yahoo_europe"
>> "yahoo_json" "yahoo_nz" "yahoo_yql" "za" "za_unittrusts")
>>
>>
>>
>> You should have version 1.47 at the start of the response. This is the
>> latest.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Good
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steven Anter 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2018 4:29 PM
>> *To:* Chris Good 
>> *Subject:* Re: Unable to download stock quotes
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I ran this in the command prompt
>>
>>
>>
>> *C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>echo (yahoo_json "CBA.AX
>> ") | perl gnc-fq-helper*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is all that returned:
>>
>> *(#f)*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Virus-free. www.avast.com
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Chris Good 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>>
>>
>> Instructions are in the nabble link. GnuCash does not have to be running.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Good
>>
>> Mobile 0484 001 392
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steven Anter 
>> *Sent:*