Re: [GNC] automatic reconnaissance of a transaction

2019-12-03 Thread John Ralls



> On Dec 3, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Joffrey Bienvenue  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> When I import transactions from my bank accounts, some transactions, very
> few in fact, are recognized by GnuCash. It used to be better at recognizing
> but I find it's less and less.
> 
> Is there a way to help that "reconnaissance" ?
> 
> Some transactions I am registering are *always* posted in the same category
> (eg. Expenses->Groceries) but it keeps on not being recognized.

The matcher works mostly from descriptions. Have those changed significantly?

There are two things you can do: Always update the matches and from time to 
time use Tools>Import Match Editor to remove obsolete matches that might lead 
the match algorithm astray.

If nearly all of your transactions will match descriptions exactly with their 
predecessors then the non-Bayesian matcher may work better, but in all other 
cases the Bayesian one will be better in the long run, though it requires more 
training at the outset to start getting good matches and needs to be maintained 
by reviewing matches and correcting mismatches *in the matcher* to keep on 
track. 

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] automatic reconnaissance of a transaction

2019-12-03 Thread Joffrey Bienvenue
Hello

When I import transactions from my bank accounts, some transactions, very
few in fact, are recognized by GnuCash. It used to be better at recognizing
but I find it's less and less.

Is there a way to help that "reconnaissance" ?

Some transactions I am registering are *always* posted in the same category
(eg. Expenses->Groceries) but it keeps on not being recognized.

Thank you
Joffrey

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Re: [GNC] Import de transaction

2019-12-03 Thread Derek Atkins
Adrien Monteleone  writes:

> Florence,
>
> This is an English list, so please excuse my non-French reply. (I’m
> not certain if there is a GnuCash list in French. I know there are
> GnuCash lists in other languages)

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Re: [GNC] 3.7 Accounts open bar

2019-12-03 Thread Geert Janssens
Op dinsdag 3 december 2019 13:08:30 CET schreef elvis:
> On 3/12/19 8:58 pm, Geert Janssens wrote:
> >> In 2.6.12 I have 12 accounts open with space for 3 or 4 more. They all
> >> have close buttons on them, and every bit of text is readable.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In 3.7 I have 12 accounts open, but to fit them on the screen I have had
> >> to change preferences --> windows to width 7. Which makes the account
> >> names unreadable. And there is no more space to open other accounts.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> is there a way to bring back the old behaviour? It looks like someone
> >> has tried to pretty things up, but it has made it unusable.
> > 
> > The "someone" in that sentence is the upstream gtk project. We depend on
> > their code to create the graphical user interface for gnucash. When Gtk
> > switched from version 2 to 3, they redesigned all of the user interface
> > elements the gtk library provides. In many cases the new elements take up
> > more space as you noted.
> > 
> > As to what can be done about it: you can tweak the style sheet used by
> > gnucash to render the user interface elements on screen. Starting points
> > for this can be found here:
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3#Visual_Styling
> 
> Thanks Geert,
> I'm both super happy that I can do something about it, and also sad to find
> out that all those threads that ended in "fix the CSS" apply to me. I was
> hoping it wouldn't be the case but kind of expecting it. I will report back
> with results.

I do sympathize.

Unfortunately the GnuCash development team is too small to maintain its own 
custom css style to adjust for the design choices made by the Gtk developers.
We used to have a theme selector for 2.6, but that was no longer supported 
either after Gtk switched to version 3.

If you happen to be on linux (you didn't mention your platform) you could try 
to use the gnome tweak tool to install a different gtk3 theme. You can 
download plenty from https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/135/order/latest/

I don't know of a similar tool for the other platforms but it should be 
possible to install a different Gtk theme on these platforms as well, albeit 
manually. If you find a nice predefined gtk theme that uses layout choices 
that better fit your requirements you could try that route rather than 
tweaking css directly.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Price Database - can't just type ticker symbol, must scroll to select

2019-12-03 Thread David Carlson
I cannot comment on why that doesn't work in release 3.7 but it sure is a
handy feature in the 2.6 series that is new to me.  I hope it will get
fixed.

David  Carlson

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 10:45 AM George Riner  wrote:

> I'm on Windows 10, build 1903
> running Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07)
> Finance::Quote: 1.47  (I don't use the downloading of prices)
>
> I'm manually entering prices in the Price Database. Apparently, the tab
> order of the fields skips over the field value and will only land on the
> down arrow to the right of the field. (yes, the focus will land on the
> other fields in the window, just not the value for the security
> ticker/name).
>
> Thus, I cannot type the security symbol to have the list select it once
> I type in enough unique characters.  I have to use the down arrow to
> open the list and scroll through it with the mouse to get to the
> security I want - many of mine are at the bottom of the list - tedious.
>
> This used to work in 2.x series of GnuCash - I could tab to the security
> symbol/name list, start typing a symbol and the list would open up and
> scroll to the first matching symbol. Usually with only 3-4 characters
> typed I'd be at the intended security and could press Enter and it would
> select it into the Security value field, and I could tab on from there
> to put in the date and price.
>
> :George
> Sebastpol, CA
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[GNC] Price Database - can't just type ticker symbol, must scroll to select

2019-12-03 Thread George Riner

I'm on Windows 10, build 1903
running Build ID: 3.7+(2019-09-07)
Finance::Quote: 1.47  (I don't use the downloading of prices)

I'm manually entering prices in the Price Database. Apparently, the tab 
order of the fields skips over the field value and will only land on the 
down arrow to the right of the field. (yes, the focus will land on the 
other fields in the window, just not the value for the security 
ticker/name).


Thus, I cannot type the security symbol to have the list select it once 
I type in enough unique characters.  I have to use the down arrow to 
open the list and scroll through it with the mouse to get to the 
security I want - many of mine are at the bottom of the list - tedious.


This used to work in 2.x series of GnuCash - I could tab to the security 
symbol/name list, start typing a symbol and the list would open up and 
scroll to the first matching symbol. Usually with only 3-4 characters 
typed I'd be at the intended security and could press Enter and it would 
select it into the Security value field, and I could tab on from there 
to put in the date and price.


:George
Sebastpol, CA

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Re: [GNC] 3.7 Accounts open bar

2019-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Another option if it works for your screen is to switch the tabs to vertically 
instead of horizontally. I’ve found I can fit more tabs that way, and they are 
always readable. (at least with enough text for me to tell some similar ones 
apart)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 3, 2019 w49d337, at 6:08 AM, elvis  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/12/19 8:58 pm, Geert Janssens wrote:
>>> In 2.6.12 I have 12 accounts open with space for 3 or 4 more. They all
>>> have close buttons on them, and every bit of text is readable.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In 3.7 I have 12 accounts open, but to fit them on the screen I have had
>>> to change preferences --> windows to width 7. Which makes the account
>>> names unreadable. And there is no more space to open other accounts.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> is there a way to bring back the old behaviour? It looks like someone
>>> has tried to pretty things up, but it has made it unusable.
>> The "someone" in that sentence is the upstream gtk project. We depend on 
>> their
>> code to create the graphical user interface for gnucash. When Gtk switched
>> from version 2 to 3, they redesigned all of the user interface elements the
>> gtk library provides. In many cases the new elements take up more space as 
>> you
>> noted.
>> 
>> As to what can be done about it: you can tweak the style sheet used by 
>> gnucash
>> to render the user interface elements on screen. Starting points for this can
>> be found here:
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3#Visual_Styling
>> 
> Thanks Geert,
> I'm both super happy that I can do something about it, and also sad to find 
> out that all those threads that ended in "fix the CSS" apply to me. I was 
> hoping it wouldn't be the case but kind of expecting it. I will report back 
> with results.

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash on MacOs Catalina

2019-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
This is a common Mac issue.

From /Applications, right-click the app and choose ‘open’, then confirm you 
want to open when MacOS asks you. It should start. If not, simply left-click 
again as normal and it will start.

Of course, I’m presuming you’ve dragged GnuCash.app from the dmg to 
/Applications already. (that is how you ‘install’ it)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 3, 2019 w49d337, at 12:06 AM, joshn268  wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded 3.7 and when I try to open the new version, after selecting
> "open" from the security menu, the app just shuts down and never opens. What
> should I do?

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Re: [GNC] Import de transaction

2019-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Florence,

This is an English list, so please excuse my non-French reply. (I’m not certain 
if there is a GnuCash list in French. I know there are GnuCash lists in other 
languages)

There should be no need to start over with an export and a clean book.

Simply delete the closing entries generated by the “Close Books” feature and 
you’ll be back where you were before closing. The easiest place to find them 
will be in your Equity account(s).

To also answer your issue on importing an export, older versions of GnuCash 
can’t do this. (You didn’t indicate which version or OS you were using) If that 
is really needed, then first, upgrade to version 2.6.21 (if not using it 
already) and then save a backup of your file. Then upgrade to version 3.7 which 
is the current version. You will then be able to export your transactions and 
then re-import them into a new book.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 2, 2019 w49d336, at 2:42 PM, NOURY Florence  
> wrote:
> 
> Bonjour,
> J'utilise GnuCash pour tenir une comptabilité d'association.
> J'ai cloturer les comptes sans tenir compte de la période comptable et 
> maintenant le calcul du résultat est faux.
> Je souhaiterais importer des transactions d'un fichier généré dans GnuCash 
> vers un nouveau fichier vide dans GnuCash.
> Je n'arrive pas à importer les transactions que je viens d'exporter. Je 
> bloque au niveau du masque « Match Import ans GnuCash accounts ».
> Pouvez-vous m'aider
> Merci d'avance
> Florence


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Re: [GNC] 3.7 Accounts open bar

2019-12-03 Thread elvis



On 3/12/19 8:58 pm, Geert Janssens wrote:

In 2.6.12 I have 12 accounts open with space for 3 or 4 more. They all
have close buttons on them, and every bit of text is readable.


In 3.7 I have 12 accounts open, but to fit them on the screen I have had
to change preferences --> windows to width 7. Which makes the account
names unreadable. And there is no more space to open other accounts.


is there a way to bring back the old behaviour? It looks like someone
has tried to pretty things up, but it has made it unusable.

The "someone" in that sentence is the upstream gtk project. We depend on their
code to create the graphical user interface for gnucash. When Gtk switched
from version 2 to 3, they redesigned all of the user interface elements the
gtk library provides. In many cases the new elements take up more space as you
noted.

As to what can be done about it: you can tweak the style sheet used by gnucash
to render the user interface elements on screen. Starting points for this can
be found here:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3#Visual_Styling


Thanks Geert,
I'm both super happy that I can do something about it, and also sad to find out that all 
those threads that ended in "fix the CSS" apply to me. I was hoping it wouldn't 
be the case but kind of expecting it. I will report back with results.




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Re: [GNC] 3.7 Accounts open bar

2019-12-03 Thread Geert Janssens
Op dinsdag 3 december 2019 06:51:23 CET schreef elvis:
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying out moving to 3.7 from the 2.6 series.
> 
> Looks good so far, I can't tell the difference, which to me is a good
> thing,
> 
> 
> One thing though - the list of open accounts across the top of the
> screen. Notebook tabs I think they are called.
> 
> In 2.6.12 I have 12 accounts open with space for 3 or 4 more. They all
> have close buttons on them, and every bit of text is readable.
> 
> 
> In 3.7 I have 12 accounts open, but to fit them on the screen I have had
> to change preferences --> windows to width 7. Which makes the account
> names unreadable. And there is no more space to open other accounts.
> 
> 
> is there a way to bring back the old behaviour? It looks like someone
> has tried to pretty things up, but it has made it unusable.

The "someone" in that sentence is the upstream gtk project. We depend on their 
code to create the graphical user interface for gnucash. When Gtk switched 
from version 2 to 3, they redesigned all of the user interface elements the 
gtk library provides. In many cases the new elements take up more space as you 
noted.

As to what can be done about it: you can tweak the style sheet used by gnucash 
to render the user interface elements on screen. Starting points for this can 
be found here:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3#Visual_Styling

Regards,

Geert


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[GNC] 3.7 Accounts open bar

2019-12-03 Thread elvis

Hi,

I am trying out moving to 3.7 from the 2.6 series.

Looks good so far, I can't tell the difference, which to me is a good 
thing,



One thing though - the list of open accounts across the top of the 
screen. Notebook tabs I think they are called.


In 2.6.12 I have 12 accounts open with space for 3 or 4 more. They all 
have close buttons on them, and every bit of text is readable.



In 3.7 I have 12 accounts open, but to fit them on the screen I have had 
to change preferences --> windows to width 7. Which makes the account 
names unreadable. And there is no more space to open other accounts.



is there a way to bring back the old behaviour? It looks like someone 
has tried to pretty things up, but it has made it unusable.



Lawrence


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash on MacOs Catalina

2019-12-03 Thread joshn268
I just downloaded 3.7 and when I try to open the new version, after selecting
"open" from the security menu, the app just shuts down and never opens. What
should I do? 



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[GNC] Import de transaction

2019-12-03 Thread NOURY Florence
Bonjour,
J'utilise GnuCash pour tenir une comptabilité d'association.
J'ai cloturer les comptes sans tenir compte de la période comptable et 
maintenant le calcul du résultat est faux.
Je souhaiterais importer des transactions d'un fichier généré dans GnuCash vers 
un nouveau fichier vide dans GnuCash.
Je n'arrive pas à importer les transactions que je viens d'exporter. Je bloque 
au niveau du masque « Match Import ans GnuCash accounts ».
Pouvez-vous m'aider
Merci d'avance
Florence




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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote morningstar uk (and europe?) have changed stuff

2019-12-03 Thread Wm via gnucash-user

On 01/12/2019 15:36, John Ralls wrote:




On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Wm via gnucash-user  
wrote:

On 24/11/2019 23:07, Richard Ullger wrote:

On Sunday, 24 November 2019 04:05:23 GMT Wm via gnucash-user wrote:


Which OS and perl version are you on?  At the moment it is looking like
gnc might need a more recent version of strawberry perl on Win but I
can't quite work out why.  If you (or anyone else) let me know your
version stuff I'll try and work it out and take it up in the dev list or
with the FQ people as appropriate.

I'm running gnucash on Arch Linux, perl version 5.30.1 https://www.perl.org/


Getting a more up to date perl on Win sorted it out.  I'll put this on the 
bug-list as it seems gnc on Win has no way of working out when it needs a new 
perl.


Perl 5 is very stable in terms of language features and mstaruk.pm has had only 
a couple of string changes--no code--since it was first contributed 6 years ago.

The problem was more likely that something was wrong with the perl instance: 
Either it got corrupted or Microsoft pushed a subtly incompatible change to one 
of its dependencies. Did you try reinstalling the same version of perl that you 
had?


Nope, I generally prefer a newer working perl

What is your resistance to a nice new perl if there is some oddity in a 
previous one?


Some people don't like change.

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