Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Peter West
You can (and should) always check which files will be affected by using ‘ls’ as 
in my example, before using rm on the same pattern.

rm * will remove files NOT starting with ‘.’


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“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax 
collector.”

> On 14 Mar 2021, at 1:02 pm, w...@theprescotts.com wrote:
> 
> Be careful with 'rm' and the asterisk.
> rm ._* will remove files with names that start with anything followed by '_'
> rm ._ * will remove everything in the directory.
> 
> Will
> 
> On 2021 Mar 13, at 03-13 19:04:16, Peter West  wrote:
> 
> If these files are on linux try
> 
> $ ls ._*
> 
> That should show you those files. If there are none you want to keep then
> 
> $ rm ._*
> will remove them.
> 
> 
> 
> —
> p...@ehealth.id.au
> “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax 
> collector.”
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2021, at 8:38 am, Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2021-03-13 13:52, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
>>> …It's probably more correct to think of your non-Mac system as creating 
>>> these files. Did you publish your Linux file system to the Mac using 
>>> NetATalk or Samba, and then use the Mac Finder to copy the files from the 
>>> Mac file system to that published file system? If so, then NetATalk or 
>>> Samba told the Mac it supported storing metadata, when the underlying Linux 
>>> file system did not have a way of storing metadata. Thus perhaps NetATalk 
>>> or Samba created these "._*" files as a workaround for storing the file 
>>> metadata.…
>> 
>> 
>> On 2021-03-13 13:59, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:
>>> No Jim. I copied my files on my Mac to an external FAT32 (I think it is 
>>> called) drive and opened it in Linux.
>> 
>> 
>> In that case, Mac system software is probably what handled reading and 
>> writing with the FAT32 disk. So, it is probably correct to say that the Mac 
>> software created these "._*" files. But the situation is the same: the FAT32 
>> file system doesn't support storing metadata, so the thing bridging the 
>> differences between the Mac world and the FAT32 world probably created these 
>> files, to store metadata that was attached to the files on the Mac.
>> 
>>   —Jim DeLaHun
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread w...@theprescotts.com
Be careful with 'rm' and the asterisk.
rm ._* will remove files with names that start with anything followed by '_'
rm ._ * will remove everything in the directory.

Will

On 2021 Mar 13, at 03-13 19:04:16, Peter West  wrote:

If these files are on linux try

$ ls ._*

That should show you those files. If there are none you want to keep then

$ rm ._*
will remove them.



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“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax 
collector.”

> On 14 Mar 2021, at 8:38 am, Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2021-03-13 13:52, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
>> …It's probably more correct to think of your non-Mac system as creating 
>> these files. Did you publish your Linux file system to the Mac using 
>> NetATalk or Samba, and then use the Mac Finder to copy the files from the 
>> Mac file system to that published file system? If so, then NetATalk or Samba 
>> told the Mac it supported storing metadata, when the underlying Linux file 
>> system did not have a way of storing metadata. Thus perhaps NetATalk or 
>> Samba created these "._*" files as a workaround for storing the file 
>> metadata.…
> 
> 
> On 2021-03-13 13:59, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:
>> No Jim. I copied my files on my Mac to an external FAT32 (I think it is 
>> called) drive and opened it in Linux.
> 
> 
> In that case, Mac system software is probably what handled reading and 
> writing with the FAT32 disk. So, it is probably correct to say that the Mac 
> software created these "._*" files. But the situation is the same: the FAT32 
> file system doesn't support storing metadata, so the thing bridging the 
> differences between the Mac world and the FAT32 world probably created these 
> files, to store metadata that was attached to the files on the Mac.
> 
>—Jim DeLaHun
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Peter West
If these files are on linux try

$ ls ._*

That should show you those files. If there are none you want to keep then

$ rm ._*
will remove them.



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“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax 
collector.”

> On 14 Mar 2021, at 8:38 am, Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2021-03-13 13:52, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
>> …It's probably more correct to think of your non-Mac system as creating 
>> these files. Did you publish your Linux file system to the Mac using 
>> NetATalk or Samba, and then use the Mac Finder to copy the files from the 
>> Mac file system to that published file system? If so, then NetATalk or Samba 
>> told the Mac it supported storing metadata, when the underlying Linux file 
>> system did not have a way of storing metadata. Thus perhaps NetATalk or 
>> Samba created these "._*" files as a workaround for storing the file 
>> metadata.…
> 
> 
> On 2021-03-13 13:59, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:
>> No Jim. I copied my files on my Mac to an external FAT32 (I think it is 
>> called) drive and opened it in Linux.
> 
> 
> In that case, Mac system software is probably what handled reading and 
> writing with the FAT32 disk. So, it is probably correct to say that the Mac 
> software created these "._*" files. But the situation is the same: the FAT32 
> file system doesn't support storing metadata, so the thing bridging the 
> differences between the Mac world and the FAT32 world probably created these 
> files, to store metadata that was attached to the files on the Mac.
> 
> —Jim DeLaHun
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 216, Issue 27 re Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Stephen C. Camidge
Thank you all for the help I have received, but nothing helped me to locate the 
reports. I will try to recreate them.

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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Jim DeLaHunt


On 2021-03-13 13:52, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
…It's probably more correct to think of your non-Mac system as 
creating these files. Did you publish your Linux file system to the 
Mac using NetATalk or Samba, and then use the Mac Finder to copy the 
files from the Mac file system to that published file system? If so, 
then NetATalk or Samba told the Mac it supported storing metadata, 
when the underlying Linux file system did not have a way of storing 
metadata. Thus perhaps NetATalk or Samba created these "._*" files as 
a workaround for storing the file metadata.…



On 2021-03-13 13:59, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:

No Jim. I copied my files on my Mac to an external FAT32 (I think it is called) 
drive and opened it in Linux.



In that case, Mac system software is probably what handled reading and 
writing with the FAT32 disk. So, it is probably correct to say that the 
Mac software created these "._*" files. But the situation is the same: 
the FAT32 file system doesn't support storing metadata, so the thing 
bridging the differences between the Mac world and the FAT32 world 
probably created these files, to store metadata that was attached to the 
files on the Mac.


    —Jim DeLaHun

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 216, Issue 27

2021-03-13 Thread Stephen C. Camidge
No Jim. I copied my files on my Mac to an external FAT32 (I think it is called) 
drive and opened it in Linux.

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>1. Re:  Moving to Linux (John Ralls)
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>3. Re:  Moving to Linux (Stephen C. Camidge)
>4. Re:  Moving to Linux (Stephen C. Camidge)
>5. Re:  Moving to Linux (David H)
>6. Re:  Moving to Linux (Stephen C. Camidge)
>7. Re:  Moving to Linux (D.)
>8. Re:  Moving to Linux (Alan Hopkins)
>9. Re:  Moving to Linux (David H)
>   10. Re:  Moving to Linux (Jim DeLaHunt)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:29:10 -0800
> From: John Ralls 
> To: "Stephen C. Camidge" 
> Cc: GNUCASH devel 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux
> Message-ID: <156da4c6-8a4e-4ccc-8909-05f9997ea...@ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > 
> > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > 
> > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > 
> > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is 
> > there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> 
> I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with 
> `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to 
> search for path.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:47:54 -0800
> From: John Ralls 
> To: Mahon Finbar 
> Cc: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app
> Message-ID: <986dd69e-e6d7-417e-bc93-3a2301bf3...@ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> The important thing is to make sure that you don't restore an old 
> version of GnuCash dlls. The most straightforward way is to leave 
> executables out of the backup plan because you can always download them 
> again from their respective sources. A bit less simple is to have a 
> separate backup set for them so that you can easily roll back after an 
> update or restore more quickly after a disk failure.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:
> > 
> > OK, I'll try that, thanks.
> > 
> > I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
> > downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a while, 
> > like since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.
> > 
> > Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I need 
> > to ensure files are the latest?
> > 
> > Finbar
> > 
> > On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:
> >> You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
> >> libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have 
> >> some leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash 
> >> with Apps & Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults 
> >> to C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> John Ralls
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -
> >>> 
> >>> "the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be 
> >>> located in the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"
> >>> 
> >>> On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:
>  Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.
>  
>  A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.
>  
>  Needs task manager to get rid of the message.
>  
>  Finbar
>  
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Jim DeLaHunt

On 2021-03-13 02:14, Stephen C. Camidge wrote:

I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.… …the Mac creates invisible 
'._*' files for each datafile…


FYI, these "._*" files are metadata companions to other files in the 
same directory. If you have a file "._mybook.gnucash" (to invent an 
example), you probably have a file "mybook.gnucash" in the same directory.


This pair of files recreates a capability that Mac and other filesystems 
have: to store metadata along with the data of a file. For 
introductions, see:
/Why are dot underscore ._ files created, and how can I avoid them?/ 
>, and
/Resource fork, //Compatibility problems/ 
> 
for introductions.


It's probably more correct to think of your non-Mac system as creating 
these files. Did you publish your Linux file system to the Mac using 
NetATalk or Samba, and then use the Mac Finder to copy the files from 
the Mac file system to that published file system? If so, then NetATalk 
or Samba told the Mac it supported storing metadata, when the underlying 
Linux file system did not have a way of storing metadata. Thus perhaps 
NetATalk or Samba created these "._*" files as a workaround for storing 
the file metadata.


My understanding is that Linux file systems can actually store file 
metadata in the form of "extended attributes". But also, I believe that 
most Linux apps don't use file metadata. Thus you might be safe to 
delete all the ._* files. Other replies in this thread, and the 
Apple.Stackexchange.com article above, have offered ways to delete the 
files if you don't want them.


Best regards,
 —Jim DeLaHunt


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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread David H
Using Flatpak version ?  If so
try /home//.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash.

Cheers David H.

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 07:10, Stephen C. Camidge 
wrote:

> yes
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 4:05 PM, David H wrote:
>
> Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge 
> wrote:
>
> I assumed that
>
> General Configuration data
> Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
>
> Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings,
> column withs, window positions, etc.
>
> means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not
> see one?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > >
> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > >
> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > >
> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile,
> is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> >
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> >
> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> > search for path.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Alan Hopkins
This link identifies file locations
https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html

Hope that helps.

Alan

On Sat, 13 Mar. 2021, 9:16 pm Stephen C. Camidge, 
wrote:

> I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
>
> I copied over the datafile, no problem.
>
> How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
>
> Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is
> there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
>
> Thank you,
> Steve
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread D. via gnucash-user
When I look at 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#GNC_DATA_HOME, I think it 
says for Linux, GNC_DATA_HOME is USER_DATA_HOME/gnucash, and USER_DATA_HOME is 
$HOME/.local/share, so that should turn into $HOME/.local/share/gnucash

A similar look at GNC_CONFIG_HOME yields $HOME/.config/gnucash

At least, that's how I interpret that page. I've been spectacularly wrong 
before, though. 

David


 Original Message 
From: "Stephen C. Camidge" 
Sent: Sat Mar 13 16:10:12 EST 2021
To: David H 
Cc: GNUCASH devel 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

yes

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 4:05 PM, David H wrote:
> Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge  wrote:
>> I assumed that
>> 
>> General Configuration data
>> Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
>> 
>> Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings, 
>> column withs, window positions, etc.
>> 
>> means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not 
>> see one?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge  
>> > > wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
>> > > 
>> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
>> > > 
>> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
>> > > 
>> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is 
>> > > there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
>> > 
>> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
>> > 
>> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with 
>> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to 
>> > search for path.
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> > 
>> >
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Stephen C. Camidge
yes

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 4:05 PM, David H wrote:
> Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge  wrote:
>> I assumed that
>> 
>> General Configuration data
>> Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
>> 
>> Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings, 
>> column withs, window positions, etc.
>> 
>> means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not 
>> see one?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge  
>> > > wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
>> > > 
>> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
>> > > 
>> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
>> > > 
>> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is 
>> > > there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
>> > 
>> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
>> > 
>> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with 
>> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to 
>> > search for path.
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> > 
>> >
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread David H
Have you turned "Show Hidden files" on ???

Cheers David H.


On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 05:43, Stephen C. Camidge 
wrote:

> I assumed that
>
> General Configuration data
> Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.
>
> Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings,
> column withs, window positions, etc.
>
> means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not
> see one?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > >
> > > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > >
> > > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > >
> > > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile,
> is there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> >
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> >
> > I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with
> > `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to
> > search for path.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Stephen C. Camidge
I assumed that

General Configuration data
Gnucash 3.0 and newer: The contents of GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME.

Linux: HOME/.gnucash - most of your preferences, adjusted report settings, 
column withs, window positions, etc.

means that in HOME, I should find a directory called .gnucash but I do not see 
one?



On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > 
> > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > 
> > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > 
> > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is 
> > there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> 
> I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with 
> `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to 
> search for path.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Stephen C. Camidge
Thank you very much. I will give the prefs a try!

Rather than actual path I would like to do the whole drive (remove all files 
that begin with '._*')

Steve


On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, at 1:29 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> > 
> > I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> > 
> > How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> > 
> > Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is 
> > there a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?
> 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files
> 
> I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with 
> `find path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to 
> search for path.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>
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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

2021-03-13 Thread John Ralls
The important thing is to make sure that you don't restore an old version of 
GnuCash dlls. The most straightforward way is to leave executables out of the 
backup plan because you can always download them again from their respective 
sources. A bit less simple is to have a separate backup set for them so that 
you can easily roll back after an update or restore more quickly after a disk 
failure.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:
> 
> OK, I'll try that, thanks.
> 
> I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
> downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a while, 
> like since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.
> 
> Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I need 
> to ensure files are the latest?
> 
> Finbar
> 
> On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:
>> You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
>> libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have 
>> some leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash 
>> with Apps & Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults to 
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -
>>> 
>>> "the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be 
>>> located in the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"
>>> 
>>> On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:
 Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.
 
 A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.
 
 Needs task manager to get rid of the message.
 
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Re: [GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread John Ralls



> On Mar 13, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Stephen C. Camidge  wrote:
> 
> I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.
> 
> I copied over the datafile, no problem.
> 
> How do I copy over my Saved Reports?
> 
> Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is there 
> a Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#Related_Files

I've never encountered ._* files, but you can get rid of them all with `find 
path -name ._* -delete`, substituting the actual path you wand to search for 
path.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem

2021-03-13 Thread Elmar
  Now you are speaking in tongues - the only scent I get from my 
computer in the years that I have had them is when the magic blue smoke 
comes out. Not a pleasant smell ...


On 3/13/21 11:22 AM, D. wrote:

... downloaded a recent copy of Quicken and sniffed the packets that come and 
go during a session with their bank under Quicken


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Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem

2021-03-13 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Sure, I understand. No problem! I am pretty sure the problem is on the Quicken 
side, rather than AQbanking. Others who have reported these problems over the 
last year or so have also noted that their attempts to negotiate with their 
financial institutions have been met with resistance from the banks. The 
successes that have been reported have resulted from users who downloaded a 
recent copy of Quicken and sniffed the packets that come and go during a 
session with their bank under Quicken. I long ago abandoned downloading 
transactions from banks, for these reasons, but you could always try that 
approach. 

David


 Original Message 
From: Elmar 
Sent: Sat Mar 13 11:04:12 EST 2021
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Cc: David H , sunfis...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem

Thank you for the explanation, David.  My "pique" if you will, was the 
lack of response following the last reply.  What I was hoping for was a 
pointer to what changed between version 2 and version 4 of GC in 
aqbanking, since the older version did downloads fine, but the new 
version doesn't, or failing that, some way to diagnose the problem based 
on the error message, or lastly a person I could contact that knows the 
internals of the module, especially since Quicken is supported by the 
bank (I don't have Quicken, btw).  In any case, I don't "blame" anyone, 
especially not for a volunteer maintained and developed program. Such an 
attitude is imho simply wrong.  I apologize if I came off too strong. - 
Elmar

On 3/13/21 10:51 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:51:39 -0500
> From: "D." 
> To: Elmar 
> Cc: David H , Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user
>   
> Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem.
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Elmar,
>
> The AQbanking connection is a commercially-maintained black box protocol that 
> was previously reverse engineered by the diligent volunteer maintainer of the 
> AQbanking package. The fact that it failed when the commercial vendor altered 
> the innards inside the box is not surprising. The ongoing challenges of 
> figuring out the workarounds demonstrates the skill with which that 
> commercial vendor has created their new system. There have been numerous 
> discussions on these lists regarding different attempts. That they haven't 
> worked for you is lamentable, to be sure, but not a reason to blame the group 
> for not providing you a solution.
>
> David T.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: Elmar 
> Sent: Sat Mar 13 09:33:50 EST 2021
> To: David H 
> Cc: GNU Cash User 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem.
>
> Alas, it seems as if the assembled knowledge base cannot solve this.? It
> bothers me that this used to work fine in the older version, but now
> fails, despite having the bank in the database.? No help at all?? The
> bank will not "expose" its OFX files for download - only CSV, and that's
> a royal pain. - Elmar


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Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem

2021-03-13 Thread Elmar
Thank you for the explanation, David.  My "pique" if you will, was the 
lack of response following the last reply.  What I was hoping for was a 
pointer to what changed between version 2 and version 4 of GC in 
aqbanking, since the older version did downloads fine, but the new 
version doesn't, or failing that, some way to diagnose the problem based 
on the error message, or lastly a person I could contact that knows the 
internals of the module, especially since Quicken is supported by the 
bank (I don't have Quicken, btw).  In any case, I don't "blame" anyone, 
especially not for a volunteer maintained and developed program. Such an 
attitude is imho simply wrong.  I apologize if I came off too strong. - 
Elmar


On 3/13/21 10:51 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:51:39 -0500
From: "D." 
To: Elmar 
Cc: David H , Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user

Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem.
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Elmar,

The AQbanking connection is a commercially-maintained black box protocol that 
was previously reverse engineered by the diligent volunteer maintainer of the 
AQbanking package. The fact that it failed when the commercial vendor altered 
the innards inside the box is not surprising. The ongoing challenges of 
figuring out the workarounds demonstrates the skill with which that commercial 
vendor has created their new system. There have been numerous discussions on 
these lists regarding different attempts. That they haven't worked for you is 
lamentable, to be sure, but not a reason to blame the group for not providing 
you a solution.

David T.


 Original Message 
From: Elmar 
Sent: Sat Mar 13 09:33:50 EST 2021
To: David H 
Cc: GNU Cash User 
Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem.

Alas, it seems as if the assembled knowledge base cannot solve this.? It
bothers me that this used to work fine in the older version, but now
fails, despite having the bank in the database.? No help at all?? The
bank will not "expose" its OFX files for download - only CSV, and that's
a royal pain. - Elmar


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Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem.

2021-03-13 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Elmar,

The AQbanking connection is a commercially-maintained black box protocol that 
was previously reverse engineered by the diligent volunteer maintainer of the 
AQbanking package. The fact that it failed when the commercial vendor altered 
the innards inside the box is not surprising. The ongoing challenges of 
figuring out the workarounds demonstrates the skill with which that commercial 
vendor has created their new system. There have been numerous discussions on 
these lists regarding different attempts. That they haven't worked for you is 
lamentable, to be sure, but not a reason to blame the group for not providing 
you a solution. 

David T. 


 Original Message 
From: Elmar 
Sent: Sat Mar 13 09:33:50 EST 2021
To: David H 
Cc: GNU Cash User 
Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem.

Alas, it seems as if the assembled knowledge base cannot solve this.  It 
bothers me that this used to work fine in the older version, but now 
fails, despite having the bank in the database.  No help at all?  The 
bank will not "expose" its OFX files for download - only CSV, and that's 
a royal pain. - Elmar

On 3/5/21 4:59 PM, David H wrote:
> Sorry Elmar, can't help you there as I'm in Oz and we don't use AQ 
> Banking oe the like here, just simple OFX/CSV downloads is all they'll 
> give us.  Such is life.  I'm sure someone will come along when your 
> time zone wakes up and be able to give you some pointers to get it 
> working.  Thanks for the heads up on flatseal - didn't realise it even 
> existed and it looks quite nice.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 07:48, Elmar  > wrote:
>
> thank you for your kind reply.  I have flatseal, and it shows the
> network permission set on for gnucash.  What diagnostic can I
> send? - Elmar
>
> On 3/5/21 4:42 PM, David H wrote:
> > See https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions.html -
> > flatpak works in it's own little world separated from the host os -
> > think of it as a VM I guess so you have to setup everything again.
> > You probably need to enable network permissions going by the
> network
> > error you received.
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
> > On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 07:28, Elmar  
> > >> wrote:
> >
> >     No ideas?  No responses?
> >
> >     On 3/3/21 12:03 PM, Elmar wrote:
> >     > I upgraded from 2.6 to 4.4 via flatpak, and discovered
> that all my
> >     > online banking credentials/profiles have vanished. So I
> have to
> >     > recreate - but using the set-up online banking setup tool, I
> >     created
> >     > the user OK, but when it comes time to retrieve the
> account list
> >     from
> >     > the bank (which DOES show up in the bank list, btw) I get the
> >     > following dialog:
> >     >
> >     > 14:01:12 Sending request...
> >     > 14:01:12 Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
> >     > 14:01:12 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated:
> >     TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES-256-GCM:AEAD
> >     > 14:01:12 Waiting for response...
> >     > 14:01:12 No message received
> >     > 14:01:12 Network error while waiting for response
> >     > 14:01:12 Operation finished, you can now close this window.
> >     >
> >     > GC retrieved fine in earlier versions; what is going wrong
> here?
> >     The
> >     > bank involved is the Local Government Federal Credit
> Union, if that
> >     > matters.  Since it showed up in the drop down list, I had
> hoped
> >     that
> >     > it would be all setup automagically.  Apparently not.
> Running under
> >     > Linux Mint 19.3 Mate desktop in case that has any effect.
> - Elmar
> >     >
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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

2021-03-13 Thread Mahon Finbar

OK, I'll try that, thanks.

I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a 
while, like since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.


Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I 
need to ensure files are the latest?


Finbar

On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:

You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have some 
leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash with Apps 
& Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults to C:\Program 
Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:

Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -

"the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be located in 
the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"

On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.

A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.

Needs task manager to get rid of the message.

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] OFX connect/AQbanking problem.

2021-03-13 Thread Elmar
Alas, it seems as if the assembled knowledge base cannot solve this.  It 
bothers me that this used to work fine in the older version, but now 
fails, despite having the bank in the database.  No help at all?  The 
bank will not "expose" its OFX files for download - only CSV, and that's 
a royal pain. - Elmar


On 3/5/21 4:59 PM, David H wrote:
Sorry Elmar, can't help you there as I'm in Oz and we don't use AQ 
Banking oe the like here, just simple OFX/CSV downloads is all they'll 
give us.  Such is life.  I'm sure someone will come along when your 
time zone wakes up and be able to give you some pointers to get it 
working.  Thanks for the heads up on flatseal - didn't realise it even 
existed and it looks quite nice.


Cheers David H.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 07:48, Elmar > wrote:


thank you for your kind reply.  I have flatseal, and it shows the
network permission set on for gnucash.  What diagnostic can I
send? - Elmar

On 3/5/21 4:42 PM, David H wrote:
> See https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions.html -
> flatpak works in it's own little world separated from the host os -
> think of it as a VM I guess so you have to setup everything again.
> You probably need to enable network permissions going by the
network
> error you received.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 07:28, Elmar mailto:etsc...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
>     No ideas?  No responses?
>
>     On 3/3/21 12:03 PM, Elmar wrote:
>     > I upgraded from 2.6 to 4.4 via flatpak, and discovered
that all my
>     > online banking credentials/profiles have vanished. So I
have to
>     > recreate - but using the set-up online banking setup tool, I
>     created
>     > the user OK, but when it comes time to retrieve the
account list
>     from
>     > the bank (which DOES show up in the bank list, btw) I get the
>     > following dialog:
>     >
>     > 14:01:12 Sending request...
>     > 14:01:12 Using GnuTLS default ciphers.
>     > 14:01:12 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated:
>     TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES-256-GCM:AEAD
>     > 14:01:12 Waiting for response...
>     > 14:01:12 No message received
>     > 14:01:12 Network error while waiting for response
>     > 14:01:12 Operation finished, you can now close this window.
>     >
>     > GC retrieved fine in earlier versions; what is going wrong
here?
>     The
>     > bank involved is the Local Government Federal Credit
Union, if that
>     > matters.  Since it showed up in the drop down list, I had
hoped
>     that
>     > it would be all setup automagically.  Apparently not.
Running under
>     > Linux Mint 19.3 Mate desktop in case that has any effect.
- Elmar
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Re: [GNC] Reports using accounts (fwd)

2021-03-13 Thread Rich Shepard

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:55:55 -0700
From: Chuck 
To: Rich Shepard 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Reports using accounts

Hi:
Thanks, Missed that somehow.
Selecting accounts with a account with children was unable to include that
in the report.  so moved it to the parent & then I get it OK.
Perhaps it is not possible to choose both?
Still working on things but things are lookingup, thanks.
Chuck

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Re: [GNC] Reports using accounts

2021-03-13 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021, Chuck wrote:


Selecting accounts with a account with children was unable to include that
in the report. so moved it to the parent & then I get it OK. Perhaps it is
not possible to choose both? Still working on things but things are
lookingup, thanks.


Chuck,

A parent account, e.g., Expenses will have a small triangle at the left end.
Click that and all the sub-accounts are displayed.

Please keep the thread on the mail list so others can learn, too.

Rich


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[GNC] Moving to Linux

2021-03-13 Thread Stephen C. Camidge
I am moving my data from Mac OS to Linux Manjaro.

I copied over the datafile, no problem.

How do I copy over my Saved Reports?

Also, since the Mac creates invisible '._*' files for each datafile, is there a 
Linux terminal command I can issue to get rid of all of them?

Thank you,
Steve
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash issues with Ubuntu on external drives

2021-03-13 Thread Geert Janssens
Op vrijdag 12 maart 2021 13:41:56 CET schreef Jeff:
> My Windows 10 pro server recently went unstable so I am trying to move
> as much data and programs as I can to a new internal harddrive running
> Ubuntu 20.04-LTS. This includes Thunderbird, which I have so far been
> unsuccessful in migrating and that makes it difficult for me to keep up
> with the user list.
> 
> I installed GNC 4.4 on Ubuntu.
> 
> I'm getting some input issues that occur at random intervals. Account
> names that seemingly cease to exist when doing line entry, account names
> hiding when highlighted by mouse or keyboard. Auto-fill that does not
> duplicate the prior entry (previous entry was Hurley, auto fills with Hu
> unless I add the r.)  Minor inconvenient issues at the moment.  Will
> post about them later.
> 
> What I can not find is why GNC will not show all of the mounted hard
> drives, internal or external, when selecting a set of books to open. 
> Nor will it open the last set of books used if it was on an external
> drive (I have not yet tried copying them to the Ubuntu drive to see if
> works) .  I have to go to file manager and double-click the set of books
> I need.
> 
> Suggestions?

I believe the default version of gnucash that ships with Ubuntu 20.04LTS is 
3.8, so I assume you are installing the flatpak version instead.

Flatpaks are sandboxed and may not have the proper permissions to see all 
external locations by default.

You can try to start gnucash from the command line using this command:
flatpak run --filesystem=host org.gnucash.GnuCash

Regards,

Geert


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