date:20221220


Terrence,

You nearly had it right the first time.

You need the "#" in front of the selector:

  "#gnc-id-main-window"

The initial post you made left off the '#' sign at the beginning. If it 
is not there in your CSS file, that would be why it didn't work. That 
symbol indicates a CSS 'id' and without it, a 'named node'. If the node 
is not named as such, but does have that id, then your rule without the 
symbol will never work.


Also, I'm surprised the wiki doesn't show this, but I'm fairly certain 
you have to quote font family names that have spaces in them. It is also 
good practice to provide a generic fallback, such as 'serif' or 
'sans-serif' etc. This way, if for some reason you didn't name the font 
just right, you should still see some sort of change. (assuming the 
generic is different than the default.) There is a way to find the 
proper name with a font viewer where you can see the font meta data. In 
this case, it might just be 'Calibri', though I'm not certain.


Finally, play with other units such as 'px' or 'em'. Some work with GTK 
in some contexts and others do not. I haven't found the rhyme or reason 
yet. You might also find success with named sizes like 'medium', 'large' 
or 'x-large'.


-

Of note, the wiki explicitly states that the wild-card selector "*" does 
*not* work on Windows.


If you still can't get it to work, try the settings.ini method.

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 11:15 PM, TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE wrote:

Yeah, had precisely what you had in your screenshot.

Here is what is now in my gtk-3.0.css file:

/* Application wide font setting */
* {
font: 18px Microsoft Consolas;
}

No visible result, I'm afraid.

Cheers,
Terry


From: "Glenn Fowler" 
To: "TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE" 
Cc: "GnuCash users group" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 6:18:54 PM
Subject: Re: [GNC] Changing typeface using CSS (Windows 10)

It would be the "Roaming" folder. There is probably a syntax error. Just 
copy/paste the whole thing, save, and restart GnuCash.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:34 PM TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE < [ 
mailto:tlbransco...@shaw.ca | tlbransco...@shaw.ca ] > wrote:



Thanks for the suggestion, Glenn.

I tried this in both the "Roaming" and the "Local" versions of the gtk-3.0.css 
file; but, neither had any effect on the typeface I see.

Also, I did see you used "24px" whereas I had "24pt" originally, so I went with 
your suggestion.

Terry


From: "Glenn Fowler" < [ mailto:gfowl...@outlook.com | gfowl...@outlook.com ] >
To: "TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE" < [ mailto:tlbransco...@shaw.ca | tlbransco...@shaw.ca ] 
>
Cc: "gnucash-user" < [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
] >
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 3:43:07 PM
Subject: Re: [GNC] Changing typeface using CSS (Windows 10)

This should work:

/* Application wide font setting */

* {
font : 24px Microsoft Calibri;
}

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE < [ 
mailto:tlbransco...@shaw.ca | tlbransco...@shaw.ca ] > wrote:

BQ_BEGIN
Hello all,

I've been a user for all of 2 weeks, so I apologize to everyone if this 
question/subject has been beaten to death in the past. My research online has 
not resulted in a fix, though, so I'd like to ask: has anyone running gnucash 
4.12 or 4.13 on Windows 10 managed to change font families using CSS ? The 
documentation I've found on the subject suggests Windows users can change 
typefaces using CSS by editing the file GNC_CONFIG_HOME/gtk-3.0.css by adding a 
section like this :

/* Application wide font setting */
gnc-id-main-window {
font-family: Microsoft Calibri;
font-size: 24pt;
}

Following these directions I edited the file gtk-3.0.css in the folder 
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash with the setting shown above; but, 
upon restarting gnucash I see absolutely no font change whatsoever. For grins, I 
copied this file to the AppData\Local\GnuCash directory as well, and again restarted 
gnucash. Sadly, same non-result.


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Re: [GNC] How can I find cost of expenses, including tax?

On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 05:24:01 GMT Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> looks potentially interesting. This post
> 
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2003-July/007526.html
> 
> probably explains what these boxes are.

Yeah, that's what I used to get GC set up for VAT many years ago.

the "boxes" are the lines on the VAT return form from Memory, box 1,2 are 
the VAT you have charged on your invoices, box 4 is the VAT you've paid to 
suppliers, 3 & 5 are calculated values.

6-9 are the total for various categories of sales/purchases.

> Unfortunately turnover is not going to force me to need to register,
> but it might make sense to. Currently 90% of what I buy has VAT on it, but
> only 10% of what I produce goes to the UK.

it has always been the case that being an unregistered "middleman" between vat 
registered suppliers and vat registered customers is an expensive place to be.

> another top-level of accounts is produced for VAT, so one has 6 categories,
> not the usual 5.

I think that as I decided that I would mostly owe VAT, I folded my VAT 
collection accounts into the liability branch.Assets may be a better 
choice for you.

Speak to your acountant and get some professional opinion on this.  

regards,
Maf.

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Re: [GNC] How can I find cost of expenses, including tax?

2022-12-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:43, Maf. King  wrote:

> Morning Dave.
>
> I think the answer to this depends on the question "are you planning to
> register for VAT?", and also falls squarely in the category of "ask your
> accountant for his opinion on how to do this"
>

Unfortunately turnover is not going to force me to need to register,
but it might make sense to. Currently 90% of what I buy has VAT on it, but
only 10% of what I produce goes to the UK.

However, the other reason for me wanting to separate out the VAT now is
that it makes creating bills much easier.  The main suppliers I purchase
from (RS, Farnell, Mouser) only list ex-VAT prices. So it’s much easier to
use the ex-VAT prices and have GnuCash calculate the VAT.

As a test, I set up a new set of accounts from GnuCash, selecting the UK
VAT model. I didn’t find them particularly intuitive, not helped by the
fact that the instead of the usual accounts

Assets, Expenses, Liabilities. Equity & Income

another top-level of accounts is produced for VAT, so one has 6 categories,
not the usual 5. I will have another look, but they seemed confusing to me,
with reference to box 4 or similar.

This video on YouTube

https://youtu.be/rd76CTl1rXQ

looks potentially interesting. This post

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2003-July/007526.html

probably explains what these boxes are.

>
> If you are planning to register, then you might as well start your books
> with
> that goal in mind and have the appropriate VAT collection accounts in your
> tree from day 1.

Unfortunately I have just input a month’s transactions into GnuCash. All
them will need to be entered again 

Fortunately I am a lot quicker now at entering the transactions than I used
to be, so it will not be such a pain.

Customer and vendor lists will be easy to just copy/paste.

I think I will start again with the information needed for handling VAT.

If you are not registering, then either:
>
> you don't record the VAT portion independently of the stock, and it just
> costs
> 20% "more"  ( i think this is what your accountant will say)

It would be a real pain for me creating bills though.

> Conceptually I think you are mixing two models: either the cost of VAT is
> the
> cost of VAT and the cost of stock is net, or the cost of stock is gross
> and
> you have no cost of VAT you can't really mix the 2 models and expect
> accurate or easy answers

Yes, I think you are right. Fortunately I realised the problem before
entering in too much data.

>
> You *could* mirror your expenses tree into a VAT branch too...
> Expenses:
> Stock
> Office
> VAT
> Stock
> Office
> etc.
> but that seems like pain for little gain!

>
> HTH,
> Maf.

Dave

>
> --
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Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
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Re: [GNC] Changing typeface using CSS (Windows 10)

2022-12-20 Thread TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE

Yeah, had precisely what you had in your screenshot. 

Here is what is now in my gtk-3.0.css file: 

/* Application wide font setting */ 
* { 
font: 18px Microsoft Consolas; 
} 

No visible result, I'm afraid. 

Cheers, 
Terry 


From: "Glenn Fowler"  
To: "TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE"  
Cc: "GnuCash users group"  
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 6:18:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Changing typeface using CSS (Windows 10) 

It would be the "Roaming" folder. There is probably a syntax error. Just 
copy/paste the whole thing, save, and restart GnuCash. 


On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:34 PM TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE < [ 
mailto:tlbransco...@shaw.ca | tlbransco...@shaw.ca ] > wrote: 



Thanks for the suggestion, Glenn. 

I tried this in both the "Roaming" and the "Local" versions of the gtk-3.0.css 
file; but, neither had any effect on the typeface I see. 

Also, I did see you used "24px" whereas I had "24pt" originally, so I went with 
your suggestion. 

Terry 


From: "Glenn Fowler" < [ mailto:gfowl...@outlook.com | gfowl...@outlook.com ] > 
To: "TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE" < [ mailto:tlbransco...@shaw.ca | 
tlbransco...@shaw.ca ] > 
Cc: "gnucash-user" < [ mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org | 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org ] > 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 3:43:07 PM 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Changing typeface using CSS (Windows 10) 

This should work: 

/* Application wide font setting */ 

* { 
font : 24px Microsoft Calibri; 
} 

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE < [ 
mailto:tlbransco...@shaw.ca | tlbransco...@shaw.ca ] > wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN
Hello all, 

I've been a user for all of 2 weeks, so I apologize to everyone if this 
question/subject has been beaten to death in the past. My research online has 
not resulted in a fix, though, so I'd like to ask: has anyone running gnucash 
4.12 or 4.13 on Windows 10 managed to change font families using CSS ? The 
documentation I've found on the subject suggests Windows users can change 
typefaces using CSS by editing the file GNC_CONFIG_HOME/gtk-3.0.css by adding a 
section like this : 

/* Application wide font setting */ 
gnc-id-main-window { 
font-family: Microsoft Calibri; 
font-size: 24pt; 
} 

Following these directions I edited the file gtk-3.0.css in the folder 
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash with the setting shown above; but, 
upon restarting gnucash I see absolutely no font change whatsoever. For grins, 
I copied this file to the AppData\Local\GnuCash directory as well, and again 
restarted gnucash. Sadly, same non-result. 

Any hints greatly appreciated, 

Terry 
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Re: [GNC] How to define the "Action" list in, e.g., Edit Bill

You can type anything you want, but you can't edit the default list 
short of editing the code and compiling a custom version of the app as 
it is currently hard-coded.


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 7:59 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:

How does one define that "Action" list in "Edit Bill"?

I cannot figure that out (see attachment).


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Re: [GNC] Bills: can I tag them other than by "Job"?

You can, but unfortunately none of that is accessible outside of the 
bill. (at least not usefully, like in a search, or report filter) I 
think there is a standing bug about Notes being overridden by the first 
line-item Description/Memo. And I don't think they are editable in the 
AP or other Registers sadly.


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 8:14 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:
I want to tag each bill with something like "2022 Inputs" (inputs are 
seeds, fertilizer, compost, etc.), "Equipment", "Needs 1099", etc. In 
some cases I need to tag bills with more than one tag.


Is there a good way to do that? I see that "Job" can be used to tag a 
Vendor, but I don't know how best to tag bills. I guess I could use some 
prefix on the "Bill ID", but I'd rather have some other field. I guess 
besides "Bill ID", I could use the "Notes" field.




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Re: [GNC] Changing typeface using CSS (Windows 10)

2022-12-20 Thread Glenn Fowler

 It would be the "Roaming" folder. There is probably a syntax error. Just
copy/paste the whole thing, save, and restart GnuCash.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:34 PM TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE 
wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion, Glenn.
>
> I tried this in both the "Roaming" and the "Local" versions of the
> gtk-3.0.css file; but, neither had any effect on the typeface I see.
>
> Also, I did see you used "24px" whereas I had "24pt" originally, so I went
> with your suggestion.
>
> Terry
>
> --
> *From: *"Glenn Fowler" 
> *To: *"TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE" 
> *Cc: *"gnucash-user" 
> *Sent: *Monday, December 19, 2022 3:43:07 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [GNC] Changing typeface using CSS (Windows 10)
>
> This should work:
>
> /* Application wide font setting */
>
> * {
>   font: 24px Microsoft Calibri;
> }
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM TERRENCE BRANSCOMBE 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I've been a user for all of 2 weeks, so I apologize to everyone if this
>> question/subject has been beaten to death in the past. My research online
>> has not resulted in a fix, though, so I'd like to ask: has anyone running
>> gnucash 4.12 or 4.13 on Windows 10 managed to change font families using
>> CSS ? The documentation I've found on the subject suggests Windows users
>> can change typefaces using CSS by editing the file
>> GNC_CONFIG_HOME/gtk-3.0.css by adding a section like this :
>>
>> /* Application wide font setting */
>> gnc-id-main-window {
>> font-family: Microsoft Calibri;
>> font-size: 24pt;
>> }
>>
>> Following these directions I edited the file gtk-3.0.css in the folder
>> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash with the setting shown above;
>> but, upon restarting gnucash I see absolutely no font change whatsoever.
>> For grins, I copied this file to the AppData\Local\GnuCash directory as
>> well, and again restarted gnucash. Sadly, same non-result.
>>
>> Any hints greatly appreciated,
>>
>> Terry
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[GNC] Bills: can I tag them other than by "Job"?

I want to tag each bill with something like "2022 Inputs" (inputs are 
seeds, fertilizer, compost, etc.), "Equipment", "Needs 1099", etc. In 
some cases I need to tag bills with more than one tag.


Is there a good way to do that? I see that "Job" can be used to tag a 
Vendor, but I don't know how best to tag bills. I guess I could use some 
prefix on the "Bill ID", but I'd rather have some other field. I guess 
besides "Bill ID", I could use the "Notes" field.


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GnuCash 4.13 on MacOS 13.1 Ventura running on 2018 Mac Mini (3.2 GHz 6-Core 
Intel Core i7)

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[GNC] How to define the "Action" list in, e.g., Edit Bill


How does one define that "Action" list in "Edit Bill"?

I cannot figure that out (see attachment).

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[GNC] No Online Banking List of Banks

2022-12-20 Thread Nicholas Rood via gnucash-user

Hello,

I've been using GnuCash for quite a while mainly on Linux but haven't
added any new online banking info in a long time.  In the online
banking setup there is no longer a list of banks populated in the bank
settings for OFX DirectConnect User Setup. 

 Any ideas?

Thanks,

Nicholas Rood
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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?


Good idea, Michael!

Eric Chapman
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Intel Core i7

On 12/20/22 18:47, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
 I've usually just used an account per batch in the general ledger and 
so could store that information in the description but the 
organizations tended to be selling very few different sorts of things.


..

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?


On 12/20/22 4:57 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:
Yes, someone else clarified that "Bill ID" is an ID we assign (e.g., 
purchase order?), while Billing ID is the number assigned by the vendor 
(usually / often "Invoice #").


In the documentation I saw some old screenshots. Seems the "Bill ID" 
used to be called "Invoice ID".


It still is, when you're looking at an Invoice. 'Invoice' in GnuCash is 
for your Customers, 'Bill' is from your Vendors. They are otherwise the 
same thing.


Thus, it's a perspective thing.

Regards,
Adrien


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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

2022-12-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack


On 12/20/2022 6:00 PM, R Losey wrote:

I guess it would depend on how detailed you wanted to be... you could
create an Inventory asset category, and create as many sub-categories as
you need to.  Purchases add to the inventory; sales delete from it, etc.


Yes, but the connection to general ledger (the sort of things here) are 
only a small part of an :"inventory system". OTHER pieces would be 
things like (but not limited to)


1) Where are these widgets kept? (in what building, on what shelf, etc.)

2) What is the re-order point? (when the number of widgets left falls 
below X, order more_


3) From whom are they ordered? (supplier information)

4) Alternate suppliers (if the one in "3" can't fill the order)

5) Usually batch information (cost not necessarily the same for widgets 
added to inventory at different times). I've usually just used an 
account per batch in the general ledger and so could store that 
information in the description but the organizations tended to be 
selling very few different sorts of things.


..

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

I guess it would depend on how detailed you wanted to be... you could
create an Inventory asset category, and create as many sub-categories as
you need to.  Purchases add to the inventory; sales delete from it, etc.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:55 AM Eric Chapman  wrote:

> I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell
> or other assets that will later be expensed as used.
>
> I'm in the USA context. As far as terminology goes, I think UK and other
> English speaking locales use the word "stock" to refer to inventory,
> but, in my experience, that is not common in the USA (indeed, the first
> definition of "stock" from Apple Dictionary: "the goods or merchandise
> kept on the premises of a business or warehouse and available for sale
> or distribution"; that is basically the definition of "inventory" at the
> bottom of the wiki article referred to below). I will try to use the
> word "inventory" so I do not confuse the term I'm talking about with the
> one meaning ownership securities of a company ("He owns 100 shares of
> XYZ Company stock.").
>
> I found something relevant in the wiki:
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Inventory_Handling. Best I can tell,
> GnuCash does not have any dedicated way to handle inventory flows:
> purchases, sales, revaluations for market fluctuations, identification
> of lots/batches).
>
> If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best
> practices? I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.
>
> Thank you!
> Eric
>
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Re: [GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?

Yes, someone else clarified that "Bill ID" is an ID we assign (e.g., 
purchase order?), while Billing ID is the number assigned by the vendor 
(usually / often "Invoice #").


In the documentation I saw some old screenshots. Seems the "Bill ID" 
used to be called "Invoice ID".


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On 12/20/22 17:52, R Losey wrote:

I'm assuming "Bill ID" is for THIS bill, whereas "Billing ID" is for the
entity involved.


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Re: [GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?

I'm assuming "Bill ID" is for THIS bill, whereas "Billing ID" is for the
entity involved.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:05 AM Eric Chapman  wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> I'll try to attach a 49.9KB screen shot to this email, but not inline. I
> noticed another new-to-the-list person seemed successful in attaching
> images that way. My in-the-body-of-the-email ones don't seem to go through.
>
> What I'm wondering is how do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ in the
> "Edit Bill" area?
>
> Thank you!
> Eric Chapman
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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

There are plenty of apps out there of various sorts, many of course are 
open-source and free, as in beer, and not just as in speech. (usually 
'community editions' of paid-for apps, but some are just free, like GnuCash)


Some are quite complicated and maybe more than you want to chew on, such 
as Odoo. (the heard of elephants sized 
jack-of-all-business-management-things) Others are designed to be much 
simpler for small businesses or hobbyists like Inventree or PartKeeper.


An hour or so with thoughtful, well crafted, and refined web searches 
should turn up more, and maybe a few hours of reading can land you a 
candidate or two for installation and evaluation. Only *you* know what 
will work for you.


Of course, to not complicate your life, you'd want something that 
exports resulting 'book' transactions in CSV, or some other format 
GnuCash can import. (CSV is likely best though) That will avoid 
double-entry. You might even be able to automate or script moving info 
from your outside app to GnuCash.


Also, I see you're asking lots of 'accounting' questions. That's fine, 
as long as you understand, we can't give specific accounting advice 
here. The best we can do are general examples that *might* be right for 
you, and then how to implement them in GnuCash. Nothing we say here 
should ever be relied upon for anything serious or legal. (especially 
affecting tax-related transactions) Always seek the advice of a 
qualified accounting and/or legal professional in such cases. They 
aren't all as expensive as some guess them to be, and their price is 
usually well worth avoiding the headache and cleanup if you mess up your 
life without consulting them first.


There are plenty of good references on accounting. I'm sure you can find 
a decent used college text for introductory courses for cheap, maybe 
even for checkout at your local public or collegiate library, but there 
are now also plenty of websites dedicated to the general overview of the 
topic. One I have used frequently as a refresher for my ACCT101 days:


https://www.principlesofaccounting.com/

It is simple, well phrased, and to the point.

Specifically to this post, Chapter 5 deals with Merchant issues such as 
recording Sales and Inventory transactions.


Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - cool business! I'm just tackling gardening in earnest for myself 
this past year. I'm not sure I ever want to get to the point of selling 
anything, but I've seen advice to 'treat your garden like a business' 
for management purposes, especially if you use/need it as a primary food 
source such as in a homesteading approach. If I stumble upon anything 
geared specifically for that niche, I'll be sure to pass it on.


On 12/20/22 11:09 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:

Thanks, John,

At this point, our needs for this are indeed simple. But I could see 
them getting more complex in the future. I do understand cost accounting 
and loved it when I studied it years ago.


I wonder if there are stand-alone inventory management programs/apps 
that would work if our needs become more complex. If anyone knows of any 
worth researching, please let me know.


The set of books I'm looking at this for is for a very small market 
gardening (farming) operation which started in 2022. Only sold their own 
produce in 2022. But later may branch out to sell stuff bought from 
others, or – to complicate things more – may start producing prepared 
products like jams, jellies, breads, even crafts and such for sale. Then 
the cost accounting gets much more involved.


So I'm just researching and trying to look ahead to what may be needful 
in the future.


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[GNC] QIF account name for dividend

2022-12-20 Thread Fred Tydeman

I am trying to set the account name for a dividend payment in a brokerage
account by putting it in the QIF file as follows:

!Type:invst
D12/16'22
NDiv
Ybrookfield infra
CX
T288.28
Mbrookfield infra
L[Income:Tybor:fidelity:div:brookfield infra]
^

However, when I do the File: Import: QIF, the Match QIF accounts with
GnuCash accounts, I get (for both QIF and GnuCash):
Income:Dividends:Assets:Tybor:Fidelity:brookfield infra

This is after typing in: Assets:Tybor:Fidelity
as the Account name for the QIF file.

Is it possible to alter the QIF file so that dividends get the correct
account name?

I am running GnuCash 4.12 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?


Those are backup files. (explained in the Help you said you were reading...)

If you need to restore it, open GnuCash, then File > Open and choose 
that backup.


Then File > Save As, and give it the original or desired name.

You can then delete the backup and mangled 'original' file if desired.

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 9:48 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:

I do have a bunch of files named something like

xxx.gnucash.20221219140714.gnucash

and they are bigger than the xxx.gnucash file. The last one is dated 
yesterday. So maybe that is a backup?


But I clicked on it, and it also opens as if it's a completely new file.


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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?

2022-12-20 Thread Stan Brown

On 2022-12-20 08:48, Michael Novack wrote:
> On 12/20/2022 10:22 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:
>> I named my file incorrectly. I guess in GnuCash the data file is
>> called a "book". I'm using .xml.
>>
>> Should I export and import with a new name (as discussed here in issue
>> tracker: https://github.com/codinguser/gnucash-android/issues/634)? 
> 
> 1) You do NOT have to anything so complicated to rename a file. Just do
> a file rename.

I agree wholeheartedly.

> 2) The file extension has to be correct ONLY if you intend to "click on
> object and expect the computer to select the application associated with
> objects of that type".

Maybe you missed a later email where the OP disclosed that this is a
Mac. From what people have posted here, on a Mac you cannot just
double-click a file and expect GnuCash to open it, as you can on Windows.

> 3) After renaming the file, gnucash will not know how to find it until
> you :"tell" gnucash the nae. In other words, you start gnucash and use
> file=>open and enter the path/name of the file as renamed (and possibly
> relocated)

Right. And this may be a good time to tell the OP that GnuCash remembers
the most-recently-used file, and the next time GnuCash is opened it
opens that file automatically, or attempts to.

Stan Brown
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Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?


Right below that is 'Reset Default Layout' if needed.

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 11:18 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:
Everyone: I also found this setting when in "Edit Bill": *View*>*Use as 
Default Layout for Vendor Documents*


I have found that if I click in the header on the rightmost column it 
expands to be readable (reads "Billable?"). Then if I do the same 
working my way leftward I get get them all to be readable. Then I saved 
the settings as "Default Layout" as per above command in the View menu, 
and I think I'm good to go.


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Re: [GNC] Way to change display of vendor info in Vendor List?


On 12/20/22 16:05, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

[…]
There is a drop down menu under a down-arrow/triangle to the far right 
of the header. From there, you can select visible columns.
WONDERFUL! It was off my screen, so I did not see it. Now I do. Great. 
Thanks, Adrien.


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Re: [GNC] Way to change display of vendor info in Vendor List?

I have my city, state, zip in Address 2, but it does not matter. (there 
may be other places it might, and you might end up with intervening 
blank lines in your case)


Most screens like the Vendors & Customers overviews share a similar 
header to other tabs like Accounts.


There is a drop down menu under a down-arrow/triangle to the far right 
of the header. From there, you can select visible columns.


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 1:46 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:
Attached are two screenshots, one is how a vendor appears in the Vendor 
List. The other is the actual data entered for that vendor. What struck 
me is that although "Address 1" and "Address 2" show up, the later 
fields do not.


(1) Can I change what is shown as far as fields go in the Vendor List?

Another thought is that perhaps I'm not inputting the vendor data in the 
very best way.


(2) Would it be better for me to use only the first two Address fields, 
if possible? I assume there are four of them because the developers want 
GnuCash to work in many locales.


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Re: [GNC] What accounts should I reconcile?


You mean the Reconciliation Report?

There is an option to only show unreconciled transactions.

You can also filter a register view to unreconciled and mark them as 
'cleared' then perform a reconciliation.


The reconciliation window itself shows you if transactions that are 
unreconciled, with a green check if they are cleared.



As for 'is there a point?' that depends on the account, what comparative 
information you possess for it, and what it is you desire to accomplish 
by doing so.


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 1:32 PM, R Losey wrote:

The only thing I can think of is that if there is some report for which you
can choose unreconciled items.

Otherwise, I've wondered the exact same thing myself.


On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 7:22 PM Dr. David Kirkby <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:


For simplicity assume that I havé the following two accounts, all in GBP.

Assets -> Bank
Assets > PayPal

I can reconcile those, and I find the process useful.

However, I noticed that it is possible to reconcile most, if not all other
accounts. Is there any point in reconciling the other accounts, such as

Expenses > Office supplies?


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[GNC] MacOS GTK Quirks with 4.13? was Re: Changes: Macbook Pro

I'm on Monterey on an Intel iMac and I've noticed some quirks right off 
with 4.13 too. I'll hazard that they are likely GTK based and not 
GnuCash issues. (I didn't look yet, but if 4.13 was built against a 
newer version of GTK, that might explain it)


I'll try to investigate more and file bugs where appropriate.

My initial observations so far:

1. The Main Window has a thick dark border on the right and bottom. I'm 
going to guess this is a window shadow that isn't rendering properly. 
Smaller windows like the Due Bills/Invoices dialogs do not have this issue.


2. Windows appear to 'bump' screen edges and other windows before their 
borders touch on the right & bottom. I've noticed this with all windows, 
regardless of if they have a shadow/border problem from #1.


3. Windows can be expanded in size by dragging a side quickly, but are 
*very* slow to reduce in size after doing so.


These are all of course very minor, but noticeable issues. The app is 
otherwise still usable best I can tell at the moment.



Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 1:24 PM, R Losey wrote:

I have heard that there were some issues with Ventura (13.x).  My iMac has
very similar specs to your, but I'm still running Monterey. I haven't had
problems using 4.12


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Re: [GNC] Why can't accounts called "Credit Card" be "A/Payable"?

The purpose of the Business Features is to handle accruals. Accounts 
Payable is the account traditionally used for this for Expenses incurred 
on credit.


It holds the liability for the expense, from the time it is incurred, to 
the time it is paid. This allows you to record activity on the vendor 
invoice (Bill in GnuCash) at the proper time, regardless of when you 
finally make payment. (or if you pre-pay)


The purpose of this method is to fulfill the 'matching principle' of 
accounting where you record activity in the period it happens, in the 
case of a vendor, when you incur the expense. This allows you to 'match' 
expenses to the same period you earn revenue, ostensibly those expenses 
being part of the cost of earning that revenue. The difference between 
revenue & expenses results in 'income', for that period.


The Accrual Basis method is *usually* limited to business use. But not 
all businesses use it.


Another method is the 'Cash Basis' method. With this, you record 
expenses or other activity - only when money changes hands. (actual use 
of cash is not required) Here, you record revenue when you get paid, 
regardless of when you earned it, and you record expenses when you pay 
them, regardless of when you incurred them. I'd hazard that the vast 
majority of individuals operate on the 'cash' method.


The benefit of this method for businesses is simplicity, but one 
downside is you can't determine how much you spent to earn a specific 
amount of revenue, so you can't reliably make managerial decisions. Some 
businesses can easily use this method if they routinely deal in 'cash' 
transactions, or transactions where nearly all activity also involves 
money exchange at 'point of sale'. (both ways, for expenses and revenue) 
Two candidates that come to mind are Bars/Restaurants & Grocery stores. 
Both usually pay for inventory on-receipt or at least within the same 
period, pay wages with little or no lag, and receive payment in full at 
the point of sale.


You can still operate a Cash Basis using the Business Features, but it 
does require a little finesse with the date of posting your invoices and 
payments.


I use the Business Features for personal use because they also offer me 
the ability to monitor due dates, amounts in arrears with aging, and I 
can run a report to match up payments to invoices. I can also run my own 
'Statement of Account' from my perspective to compare to my various 
service providers. I only do this for 'regular' services and expenses 
like monthly, quarterly, or annual bills. I do simple manual 
transactions for things like going to the grocery store or gas station.


I'll put some in-line responses below...


On 12/20/22 12:49 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:
I'm still working on workflow for recording purchases made via credit 
card. I am wondering:


Why can't accounts called "Credit Card" be marked as "A/Payable" so that 
I can post straight from a New Bill into that liability account?


I'm pretty sure you could do so, but the above explanation may answer 
why you wouldn't want to or need to.


Of course, that account won't have features of type 'Credit Card' any 
longer and instead, operate as "A/Payable".


Also, a Credit Card is not really a liability holding account. It is 
more along the lines of a 'payment factor.' You are paying for 
something, using credit from someone else.


In the case of a vendor, you are paying off your liability to them, 
using a type of loan from a bank via the card network. That's just 
swapping a liability for another, though both of special types and with 
special purposes.


If there was a case where you did not by chance 'pay' a vendor 
immediately via Card, what now? Where do you hold the liability on your 
books to the vendor?


*note a 'Vendor' is understood here to mean someone or business that 
extends you credit for goods exchanged or services rendered, usually on 
specific terms, such as Net30. You generally don't pay these 
immediately. (though of course, you can)


Seems to me that if I have the credit side of the New Bill transaction 
be some account marked as "A/Payable", then I'm going to have move that 
amount to the Credit Card sometime as an extra step.


Yes, the 'extra' step is called Payment. It appears you are entering and 
posting Bills you've already paid. (maybe even immediately)


You don't *need* to use the Business Features for these transactions, 
you can just do manual transactions between various expense accounts and 
the Credit Card account. But you might find the additional features 
useful, and if you are ever not consistent with how you pay the Vendor, 
that could be an issue as well.




*Current workflow: *When a bill gets posted, it would be recorded like 
this (since, best I can tell GnuCash requires that the posting acct be 
an "A/Payable": marked account, and that characteristic is impossible 
for credit card type accounts):


    /*Debit*///Expense or asset
    ///*Credit*/ A/Payable acct

Re: [GNC] Rounding discrepancy in payment processing

2022-12-20 Thread Alaa Zeineldine

Hello Dave,

 

Attached is a test .gnucash file I created. Interestingly enough, it does not 
exhibit the problem. Bearing in mind that this is a minimal setup with a single 
currency.

 

Before going further with this and adding accounts with different currencies, I 
will provide the information that Murugan requested in his last message.

 

Regards,

 

Alaa

 

From: Dr. David Kirkby  
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 4:38 AM
To: Alaa Zeineldine 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Rounding discrepancy in payment processing

 

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 01:04, Alaa Zeineldine mailto:a...@expertwell.com> > wrote:

This is the first time I email to the list. So, I don't know if screenshots
will show up, but I am including below a succession of screenshots for a
fake customer invoice to demonstrate the problem.

 

 

Yes they do show up. It would probably be worth your while creating a test 
.gnucash file, emailing that, and let people see if they get the problem with 
your file. 



Thanks for your help.

 

Dave 

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[GNC] Way to change display of vendor info in Vendor List?

Attached are two screenshots, one is how a vendor appears in the Vendor 
List. The other is the actual data entered for that vendor. What struck 
me is that although "Address 1" and "Address 2" show up, the later 
fields do not.


(1) Can I change what is shown as far as fields go in the Vendor List?

Another thought is that perhaps I'm not inputting the vendor data in the 
very best way.


(2) Would it be better for me to use only the first two Address fields, 
if possible? I assume there are four of them because the developers want 
GnuCash to work in many locales.


Thank you!

Eric Chapman
GnuCash 4.13 on MacOS 13.1 Ventura running on 2018 Mac Mini (3.2 GHz 
6-Core Intel Core i7)
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Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

2022-12-20 Thread David H

Eric,

ALWAYS adjust the Description column last as from memory it's setup to
automatically adjust to fill the rest of the column space available,

Cheers David H.


On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 02:16, David T. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Check out
>
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_txns.html#txns-register-oview,
>
> especially the notes in 2.9.2.3 Setting Column Widths.
>
> Your video shows successful resizing the Action column; following
> Derek's advice to double-click the column header to resize Bill would
> set that column, as well as the Balance column.
>
> Best,
>
> David T.
>
> On 12/20/2022 5:40 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:
> > I cannot successfully get the field columns to be manageable. Attached
> > is a .mov file (1.1MB, so may get stripped out) of the screencast of
> > an attempt. This is on MacOS 13.1 Ventura with GnuCash 4.13.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On 12/20/22 09:16, Derek Atkins wrote:
> >> Why don't you make the column wider?  Your description column is HUGE.
> >> Try double-clicking on the "Bil" header to make it wider -- or grab the
> >> right side and drag to the right --- and then reduce the description
> >> column.
> >>
> >> I believe that is the "Billable?" column, which says that the
> >> line-item is
> >> billable back to a customer.
> >>
> >> -derek
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Re: [GNC] What accounts should I reconcile?

The only thing I can think of is that if there is some report for which you
can choose unreconciled items.

Otherwise, I've wondered the exact same thing myself.


On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 7:22 PM Dr. David Kirkby <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:

> For simplicity assume that I havé the following two accounts, all in GBP.
>
> Assets -> Bank
> Assets > PayPal
>
> I can reconcile those, and I find the process useful.
>
> However, I noticed that it is possible to reconcile most, if not all other
> accounts. Is there any point in reconciling the other accounts, such as
>
> Expenses > Office supplies?
>
>
> Dave
> --
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> Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
> drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk
> https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/
> Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100
>
> Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
> Registered office:
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Re: [GNC] How can I find cost of expenses, including tax?

Could you create:
Expenses->Stock->Items
Expenses->Stock->VAT

?

That way, reports would give you a summary of the Items and the VAT... I
don't recall if they will sum the two for you... they might.



On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 6:47 PM Dr. David Kirkby <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:

> My company is not registered for VAT (tax), but I probably have to pay 20%
> VAX (tax) on 75% of the items I buy.
>
> I have the following accounts
>
> Expenses
> Expenses -> Stock
> Expenses > Office supplies
>
> I can not see how I can determine how much I have spent on stock,
> *including* the TAX.
>
> The account Expenses is a placeholder account, but I see that all the VAT
> goes in there. So
>
> Expenses -> Stock
>
> has two sorts of transactions in it
>
> 1) Items where no tax has been paid
> 2) The price of items excluding the tax
>
> which seems a bit of a muddle. That’s 100% of the cost of some items, but
> 80% of the cost of the others.
>
> I can not find the cost (including the tax) from adding up
>
> Expenses
> and
> Expenses -> Stock
>
> because Expenses will contain the tax paid on Office supplies too.
>
> At the end of the year my accountant will want to know how much I have
> spent on stock, but I can’t see a way of exporting the transactions so that
> the file contains that information. My accountant would
>
> Expenses -> Stock
>
> but only some things from the placeholder account
>
> Expenses.
>
> I assume that there is a way out of this problem.
>
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Re: [GNC] Changes: Macbook Pro

I have heard that there were some issues with Ventura (13.x).  My iMac has
very similar specs to your, but I'm still running Monterey. I haven't had
problems using 4.12


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> I am running gnucash on the following hardware:
> MacBook Pro
> Chip: Apple M1 Pro
> Memory: 16 GB
> macOS: Ventura 13.0.1
>
> Was working great until a couple of weeks ago. Now it is working remarkably
> differently. When I attempt to select a date from a drop calendar it just
> closes, In most any dialog box I need to select OK twice, and just some
> other little things that are different than were before. I am a little
> worried that I might lose some data if things are going wrong.
>
> I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same things.
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[GNC] Why can't accounts called "Credit Card" be "A/Payable"?

I'm still working on workflow for recording purchases made via credit 
card. I am wondering:


Why can't accounts called "Credit Card" be marked as "A/Payable" so that 
I can post straight from a New Bill into that liability account?


Seems to me that if I have the credit side of the New Bill transaction 
be some account marked as "A/Payable", then I'm going to have move that 
amount to the Credit Card sometime as an extra step.


*Current workflow: *When a bill gets posted, it would be recorded like 
this (since, best I can tell GnuCash requires that the posting acct be 
an "A/Payable": marked account, and that characteristic is impossible 
for credit card type accounts):


   /*Debit*///Expense or asset
   ///*Credit*/ A/Payable acct

   Sometime this journal entry would have to happen (when?):

   /*Debit*/ A/Payable acct for amounts on credit card
   /*Credit*/ Credit Card acct

   When the payment reflected on the credit card statement is recorded,
   it would be:

   /*Debit*/ Credit Card acct
   /*Credit*/ Checking acct

Seems to me that this workflow would be better, but I do not think it'll 
work with GnuCash:


*Shorter workflow: *When a bill gets posted.

   /*Debit*///Expense or asset
   /*Credit*/ Credit Card acct

   When the payment reflected on the credit card statement is recorded,
   it would be:

   /*Debit*/ Credit Card acct
   /*Credit*/ Checking acct

Comments? Advice? Corrections?

Thank you!

Eric Chapman
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[GNC] Default QIF account name

2022-12-20 Thread Fred Tydeman

For the Import QIF file tool:
  What input is it looking for to set the Default account name?

I will hand edit the QIF file to add that magic line so the import has an
account name.

Aside:  The Import QIF tool would be better if there was a way to pick the
account name from the list of accounts, instead of having to manually type
the account name.
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Re: [GNC] Roth IRA conversion

2022-12-20 Thread Fred Tydeman

Thanks for the discussion on Imputed income.

Since I want this Imputed income showing up in a GnuCash report of income,
I will add an Income and an Expense pair.
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Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

Everyone: I also found this setting when in "Edit Bill": *View*>*Use as 
Default Layout for Vendor Documents*


I have found that if I click in the header on the rightmost column it 
expands to be readable (reads "Billable?"). Then if I do the same 
working my way leftward I get get them all to be readable. Then I saved 
the settings as "Default Layout" as per above command in the View menu, 
and I think I'm good to go.


Thanks,
Eric


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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?


Steve,

Thank you. I also think that is a perfectly good way to do it. I do 
understand Cost of Goods Sold (and I think it should be contra the 
related sales / revenue (income) account.


That's the way I'll do it.

Thanks so much!

Eric

On 12/20/22 11:25, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

Eric,

As you noted, they are an Asset.  Now, I'm not a CPA or even a book 
keeper (though my wife did that job for a number of years for an 
architect).  Here is how I am doing it.


1.  Setup an Asset account for Inventory (or whatever you want to name 
it).
2.  Setup an account for Cost of Goods Sold.  (Mine is a contra 
account in Income -- your CPA might want it as an Expense).
3.  Divide your inventory value by the number of items (if only one 
type of item or break out a similar Cost/Item for each type of item).
4.  When you make a sale, reduce Inventory by the COGS for that item 
and increase the appropriate account from step 2.


Note, I didn't use Credit/Debit as I forget which one is supposed to 
be closest to the window.  I think that changed recently when I 
switched my desk around and the other side of the monitor is now 
nearest the window.




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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

Thanks, John,

At this point, our needs for this are indeed simple. But I could see
them getting more complex in the future. I do understand cost accounting
and loved it when I studied it years ago.

I wonder if there are stand-alone inventory management programs/apps
that would work if our needs become more complex. If anyone knows of any
worth researching, please let me know.

The set of books I'm looking at this for is for a very small market
gardening (farming) operation which started in 2022. Only sold their own
produce in 2022. But later may branch out to sell stuff bought from
others, or – to complicate things more – may start producing prepared
products like jams, jellies, breads, even crafts and such for sale. Then
the cost accounting gets much more involved.

So I'm just researching and trying to look ahead to what may be needful
in the future.

Eric
GnuCash 4.13 on MacOS 13.1 Ventura installed on 2018 Mac Mini (3.2 GHz
6-Core Intel Core i7)

On 12/20/22 11:45, john wrote:

On Dec 20, 2022, at 6:55 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:

I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell or other
assets that will later be expensed as used.

I'm in the USA context. As far as terminology goes, I think UK and other English speaking locales use the word "stock" to refer
to inventory, but, in my experience, that is not common in the USA (indeed, the first definition of "stock" from Apple
Dictionary: "the goods or merchandise kept on the premises of a business or warehouse and available for sale or distribution";
that is basically the definition of "inventory" at the bottom of the wiki article referred to below). I will try to use the word
"inventory" so I do not confuse the term I'm talking about with the one meaning ownership securities of a company ("He owns
100 shares of XYZ Company stock.").

I found something relevant in the wiki:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Inventory_Handling. Best I can tell, GnuCash does
not have any dedicated way to handle inventory flows: purchases, sales,
revaluations for market fluctuations, identification of lots/batches).

If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best practices?
I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.

Unless your use case is very simple indeed best practice is to use a different
program. You'd need to study cost accounting and do it by hand in GnuCash.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

Thanks, John,

At this point, our needs for this are indeed simple. But I could see
them getting more complex in the future. I do understand cost accounting
and loved it when I studied it years ago.

I wonder if there are stand-alone inventory management programs/apps
that would work if our needs become more complex. If anyone knows of any
worth researching, please let me know.

So I'm just researching and trying to look ahead to what may be needful
in the future.

Eric
GnuCash

On 12/20/22 11:45, john wrote:

On Dec 20, 2022, at 6:55 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:

I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell or other
assets that will later be expensed as used.

If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best practices?
I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.

Unless your use case is very simple indeed best practice is to use a different
program. You'd need to study cost accounting and do it by hand in GnuCash.

Regards,
John Ralls

Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

2022-12-20 Thread john




> On Dec 20, 2022, at 6:55 AM, Eric Chapman  wrote:
> 
> I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell or 
> other assets that will later be expensed as used.
> 
> I'm in the USA context. As far as terminology goes, I think UK and other 
> English speaking locales use the word "stock" to refer to inventory, but, in 
> my experience, that is not common in the USA (indeed, the first definition of 
> "stock" from Apple Dictionary: "the goods or merchandise kept on the premises 
> of a business or warehouse and available for sale or distribution"; that is 
> basically the definition of "inventory" at the bottom of the wiki article 
> referred to below). I will try to use the word "inventory" so I do not 
> confuse the term I'm talking about with the one meaning ownership securities 
> of a company ("He owns 100 shares of XYZ Company stock.").
> 
> I found something relevant in the wiki: 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Inventory_Handling. Best I can tell, GnuCash 
> does not have any dedicated way to handle inventory flows: purchases, sales, 
> revaluations for market fluctuations, identification of lots/batches).
> 
> If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best practices? 
> I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.
> 

Unless your use case is very simple indeed best practice is to use a different 
program. You'd need to study cost accounting and do it by hand in GnuCash.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?

2022-12-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack


On 12/20/2022 10:22 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:

Hi,

I named my file incorrectly. I guess in GnuCash the data file is 
called a "book". I'm using .xml.


Should I export and import with a new name (as discussed here in issue 
tracker: https://github.com/codinguser/gnucash-android/issues/634)? 


1) You do NOT have to anything so complicated to rename a file. Just do 
a file rename.


2) The file extension has to be correct ONLY if you intend to "click on 
object and expect the computer to select the application associated with 
objects of that type".


3) After renaming the file, gnucash will not know how to find it until 
you :"tell" gnucash the nae. In other words, you start gnucash and use 
file=>open and enter the path/name of the file as renamed (and possibly 
relocated)


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

2022-12-20 Thread Michael or Penny Novack


On 12/20/2022 9:55 AM, Eric Chapman wrote:
I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell 
or other assets that will later be expensed as used.

..
I found something relevant in the wiki: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Inventory_Handling. Best I can tell, 
GnuCash does not have any dedicated way to handle inventory flows: 
purchases, sales, revaluations for market fluctuations, identification 
of lots/batches).


If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best 
practices? I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.


Thank you!
Eric 


Gnucash is only doing the "general ledger" part of accounting.


An "inventory system" is doing a LOT more than that, but gnucash can 
deal with the part of inventory accounting that affects "general ledger"


However an "inventory system" would be doing a great deal more than that 
(beside "feeding" general ledger). It might be doing things like storing 
sources, alternative sources, reorder levels, shelving information 
(where ARE those widgets?). It would have its own "reconciliation" 
process (verify by physical inspection, record discrepancies. etc.). 
Gnucash does none of those things.


A complete "business system" would contain numerous other parts besides 
general ledger. Some of these parts might be common to all sorts of 
businesses but others specific to type of business. Thus a dealer in 
widgets  would need inventory but a dealer in services might need 
billable hours and both might need HR/payroll.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

2022-12-20 Thread Stephen M. Butler


Eric,

As you noted, they are an Asset.  Now, I'm not a CPA or even a book 
keeper (though my wife did that job for a number of years for an 
architect).  Here is how I am doing it.


1.  Setup an Asset account for Inventory (or whatever you want to name it).
2.  Setup an account for Cost of Goods Sold.  (Mine is a contra account 
in Income -- your CPA might want it as an Expense).
3.  Divide your inventory value by the number of items (if only one type 
of item or break out a similar Cost/Item for each type of item).
4.  When you make a sale, reduce Inventory by the COGS for that item and 
increase the appropriate account from step 2.


Note, I didn't use Credit/Debit as I forget which one is supposed to be 
closest to the window.  I think that changed recently when I switched my 
desk around and the other side of the monitor is now nearest the window.


--Steve

On 12/20/22 06:55, Eric Chapman wrote:
I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell 
or other assets that will later be expensed as used.


I'm in the USA context. As far as terminology goes, I think UK and 
other English speaking locales use the word "stock" to refer to 
inventory, but, in my experience, that is not common in the USA 
(indeed, the first definition of "stock" from Apple Dictionary: "the 
goods or merchandise kept on the premises of a business or warehouse 
and available for sale or distribution"; that is basically the 
definition of "inventory" at the bottom of the wiki article referred 
to below). I will try to use the word "inventory" so I do not confuse 
the term I'm talking about with the one meaning ownership securities 
of a company ("He owns 100 shares of XYZ Company stock.").


I found something relevant in the wiki: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Inventory_Handling. Best I can tell, 
GnuCash does not have any dedicated way to handle inventory flows: 
purchases, sales, revaluations for market fluctuations, identification 
of lots/batches).


If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best 
practices? I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.


Thank you!
Eric


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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?

2022-12-20 Thread David T. via gnucash-user

Which is why it's a good idea to inform the list your operating system 
and the version of GnuCash you are using.


On 12/20/2022 6:51 PM, Maf. King wrote:

On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 15:48:11 GMT Eric Chapman wrote:

I do have a bunch of files named something like

xxx.gnucash.20221219140714.gnucash

and they are bigger than the xxx.gnucash file. The last one is dated
yesterday. So maybe that is a backup?

But I clicked on it, and it also opens as if it's a completely new file.


If you are on a MAC, you need file -> Open

clicking the data file does not work as you might expect it to.

Maf.



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Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

2022-12-20 Thread David T. via gnucash-user


Eric,

Check out 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_txns.html#txns-register-oview, 
especially the notes in 2.9.2.3 Setting Column Widths.


Your video shows successful resizing the Action column; following 
Derek's advice to double-click the column header to resize Bill would 
set that column, as well as the Balance column.


Best,

David T.

On 12/20/2022 5:40 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:
I cannot successfully get the field columns to be manageable. Attached 
is a .mov file (1.1MB, so may get stripped out) of the screencast of 
an attempt. This is on MacOS 13.1 Ventura with GnuCash 4.13.


Eric

On 12/20/22 09:16, Derek Atkins wrote:

Why don't you make the column wider?  Your description column is HUGE.
Try double-clicking on the "Bil" header to make it wider -- or grab the
right side and drag to the right --- and then reduce the description
column.

I believe that is the "Billable?" column, which says that the 
line-item is

billable back to a customer.

-derek


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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?


File —> Save As
And choose a different name.
-derek
Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
On December 20, 2022 10:24:46 Eric Chapman  wrote:


Hi,

I named my file incorrectly. I guess in GnuCash the data file is called
a "book". I'm using .xml.

Should I export and import with a new name (as discussed here in issue
tracker: https://github.com/codinguser/gnucash-android/issues/634)?

I'm attaching what I see as the types of files I can export from v. 4.13.

I tried to export "Accounts", but I am not sure that's what I want,
since the exported file is called *.gnucash, but that type of import is
not listed on the "Import" dialog (see attached).

Also, when I exported "Accounts", I also got a .log file which Finder
shows as having zero bytes. What is it for?

Thanks!
Eric



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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?

On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 15:48:11 GMT Eric Chapman wrote:
> I do have a bunch of files named something like
> 
> xxx.gnucash.20221219140714.gnucash
> 
> and they are bigger than the xxx.gnucash file. The last one is dated
> yesterday. So maybe that is a backup?
> 
> But I clicked on it, and it also opens as if it's a completely new file.
> 

If you are on a MAC, you need file -> Open

clicking the data file does not work as you might expect it to.

Maf.

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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?

On Tuesday, 20 December 2022 15:22:42 GMT Eric Chapman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I named my file incorrectly. I guess in GnuCash the data file is called
> a "book". I'm using .xml.
> 
> Should I export and import with a new name (as discussed here in issue
> tracker: https://github.com/codinguser/gnucash-android/issues/634)?

File -> Save As  is all you need..

hth,
Maf.

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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?


I do have a bunch of files named something like

xxx.gnucash.20221219140714.gnucash

and they are bigger than the xxx.gnucash file. The last one is dated 
yesterday. So maybe that is a backup?


But I clicked on it, and it also opens as if it's a completely new file.

Eric

On 12/20/22 10:45, Eric Chapman wrote:

Murugan,


That did not work. Now it looks as if I lost everything. I closed down 
GnuCash, changed the name from xxx.gnucash to yyy.gnucash, and clicked 
on yyy.gnucash. A splash screen came up and asked if I wanted to 
delete something, and I said "Yes" (dumb move, I guess!).



Now it opens yyy.gnucash and there is nothing there. Asks if I want to 
import something.



So I changed yyy.gnucash back to xxx.gnucash, and same thing. I did 
not make a back up of xxx.gnucash, so I guess I have the opportunity 
to correct things when I start over :)



Eric



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Re: [GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?


Murugan,


That did not work. Now it looks as if I lost everything. I closed down 
GnuCash, changed the name from xxx.gnucash to yyy.gnucash, and clicked 
on yyy.gnucash. A splash screen came up and asked if I wanted to delete 
something, and I said "Yes" (dumb move, I guess!).



Now it opens yyy.gnucash and there is nothing there. Asks if I want to 
import something.



So I changed yyy.gnucash back to xxx.gnucash, and same thing. I did not 
make a back up of xxx.gnucash, so I guess I have the opportunity to 
correct things when I start over :)



Eric

On 12/20/22 10:38, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:

Eric

the file name should be with extn .gnucash
you can rename the file whatever you want and open it again, dont need 
to export or import





Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


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[GNC] Best practice to change name of GnuCash file ("book")?


Hi,

I named my file incorrectly. I guess in GnuCash the data file is called 
a "book". I'm using .xml.


Should I export and import with a new name (as discussed here in issue 
tracker: https://github.com/codinguser/gnucash-android/issues/634)?


I'm attaching what I see as the types of files I can export from v. 4.13.

I tried to export "Accounts", but I am not sure that's what I want, 
since the exported file is called *.gnucash, but that type of import is 
not listed on the "Import" dialog (see attached).


Also, when I exported "Accounts", I also got a .log file which Finder 
shows as having zero bytes. What is it for?


Thanks!
Eric
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.13 Released

2022-12-20 Thread Mahon Finbar


Thank you John and all the team.

My Vivaldi browser didn't seem to like SourceForge, resorted to Chrome.

Barry, and as they say in Provence bon bout d'an..


On 19/12/2022 17:00, john wrote:

Thanks, I'd forgotten to unhide the folder. SF should work OK now.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Dec 19, 2022, at 8:35 AM, Murugan Muruganandam  
wrote:

i was able to download from github and install the same




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Mahon Finbar 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 12:50 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.13 Released

Sourceforge doesn't have 4.13

Barry

On 18/12/2022 23:07, John Ralls wrote:

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.13, the fourteenth release in 
the stable 4.x series

Between 4.12 and 4.13, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

   • Bug 760274 - The Statusbar "forgets" when register doesn't have focus
   • Bug 798545 - Crash when updating document link on vendor bill
   • Bug 798614 - Croatia to join the Euro
   • Bug 798629 - gnucash crashes attempting to import OFX file
   • Bug 798633 - 4.12 build failure on 32-bit Linux: "No code for module"
   • Bug 798640 - Segfault when running saved report
   • Bug 798649 - Crash when closing Edit Style Sheets dialog while Style 
Sheet Properties dialog is still open.
   • Bug 798653 - Schedule Calendar event description pop up window does 
not track mouse position
   • Bug 798657 - Import Summary language is wrong
   • Bug 798664 - Result of 'gnucash --nofile' is marked dirty
   • Bug 798669 - Multicolumn Balance Sheet not printing exchange rates
include equity accounts in the exchange rate commodities list.

   • Bug 798672 - Preferences are not saved nor loaded, ERROR  
g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' failed
   • Bug 798680 - Not able to match a reverse transaction of a previously 
matched transaction.
   • Bug 798681 - Previously imported investment income transactions may 
not be filtered.
   • Bug 798694 - Cursor in the wrong place after pasting with 
auto-completion
The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

   • Don't normalize text when pasting from the clipboard or appending 
descriptions or notes during imports.
   • [register] Delay post-ime reset of the selection to works around bug 
798587.
   • [ofx import] Clean up importing investment transactions for smoother 
workflow and better UI behavior.
   • [account-piecharts] drill-down piechart: tree-depth is at most 6
   • Fix numerous memory leaks.
   • [ifrs-report] From Bug 798004 allow Cr cash to offset Dr fee and remove invalid 
"dividend reinvestment" during short.
   • [gtest-qofevent.cpp] Add comprehensive tests for qofevent
   • [test-qofbook] Test that gnc_features_test_unknown returns a suitable 
error message
   • [test-qofbook.c] add test for gnc_features_set_unused
   • [gnc-features.cpp] backport gnc_features_set_unused from master
   • [qofbook.cpp] backport qof_book_unset_feature from master
   • Move gnc-euro.[ch] to engine and unit test it.
   • [test-qofbook] basic features test: Sets a feature and tests it's set. 
it's impossible to design a book with unknown features using the API.
   • po/README: Remove relics from ancient context forms
   • [test-ifrs-cost-basis] amend tests to accommodate extra column.
   • [ifrs-cost-basis] compare register vs calculated capgain per 
transaction.
   • Accomodate WebKit package version update to webkit2gtk-4.1.
   • [assistant-stock-transaction] input positive capgains for Credit 
income account.
New API: None.

Deprecations:

   • qof_book_get_features
New and Updated Translations: Chinese (Simplified), Croatian, English 
(Australia), English (New Zealand), English (United Kingdom), French, 
Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Korean, Macedonian, Polish, Spanish, Urdu

Help translate GnuCash on Weblate

Known Problems

Complete list of all open bugs.

Documentation

Concurrent with the release of GnuCash 4.13 we're pleased to also release a new 
version of the companion Help and Tutorial and Concepts Guide

Between 4.12 and 4.13, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

   • Bug 798620 - Unable to build docs on Mageia Cauldron
   • Bug 798623 - ENG. Typo "documenation"
   • Bug 798624 - Document how to check if GnuCash is running when updating 
quotes
   • Bug 798645 - screens instead of WINDOWS
   • Bug 798665 - New: ENG. Typo: Unnecessary determiner "a" [2.6.1. 
Migrating financial data]
   • Bug 798674 - Broken link on Chapter 17. Python Bindings
The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

   • Manual Account_Actions: Tippfehler-Korrektur
   • Review URLs and replace them by entities in all parts and languages 
excepting in comments or FDL appendix

Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

2022-12-20 Thread Murugan Muruganandam

Eric

dont panic, you just keep spacing the description column and all will align , 
it is something i have seen happen to me

Saludos Cordiales

Murugan

From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Eric 
Chapman 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 12:12 PM
To: GNUcash User List 
Subject: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

Thank you, Murugan,

Now I've messed it up completely. Several columns are scrunched
together. Screenshot attached. Any way I can reset things?

Eric

On 12/20/22 10:01, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> Eric
>
>  Double click on Bill column first and then the columns you want to
> align it should align you to the window
>
>
>
> Saludos Cordiales
>
>
> Murugan
>
>
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[GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?


Thank you, Murugan,


Now I've messed it up completely. Several columns are scrunched 
together. Screenshot attached. Any way I can reset things?



Eric


On 12/20/22 10:01, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:

Eric

 Double click on Bill column first and then the columns you want to 
align it should align you to the window




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan

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Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

2022-12-20 Thread Murugan Muruganandam

Eric

 Double click on Bill column first and then the columns you want to align it 
should align you to the window

Saludos Cordiales

Murugan

From: gnucash-user 
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Chapman 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 11:40 AM
To: Derek Atkins ; GNUcash User List 
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

I cannot successfully get the field columns to be manageable. Attached
is a .mov file (1.1MB, so may get stripped out) of the screencast of an
attempt. This is on MacOS 13.1 Ventura with GnuCash 4.13.

Eric

On 12/20/22 09:16, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Why don't you make the column wider?  Your description column is HUGE.
> Try double-clicking on the "Bil" header to make it wider -- or grab the
> right side and drag to the right --- and then reduce the description
> column.
>
> I believe that is the "Billable?" column, which says that the line-item is
> billable back to a customer.
>
> -derek
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[GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell 
or other assets that will later be expensed as used.


I'm in the USA context. As far as terminology goes, I think UK and other 
English speaking locales use the word "stock" to refer to inventory, 
but, in my experience, that is not common in the USA (indeed, the first 
definition of "stock" from Apple Dictionary: "the goods or merchandise 
kept on the premises of a business or warehouse and available for sale 
or distribution"; that is basically the definition of "inventory" at the 
bottom of the wiki article referred to below). I will try to use the 
word "inventory" so I do not confuse the term I'm talking about with the 
one meaning ownership securities of a company ("He owns 100 shares of 
XYZ Company stock.").


I found something relevant in the wiki: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Inventory_Handling. Best I can tell, 
GnuCash does not have any dedicated way to handle inventory flows: 
purchases, sales, revaluations for market fluctuations, identification 
of lots/batches).


If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best 
practices? I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.


Thank you!
Eric


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Re: [GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?

No problem. I can live with it however it is, once I understand it. I 
only get one chance to be a newbie and see it from their eyes.


I do look in the documentation, but so far it hasn't helped a lot. I 
usually like readable help, but in this case a few YouTube videos have 
helped.


I really, really appreciate how many of those on this list jump right in 
and help us newbies out. Thank you, Derek, for your help.


Eric

On 12/20/22 09:14, Derek Atkins wrote:

At the time it was written, screens were much smaller so phrases were
abbreviated otherwise you'd need a 3k-wide screen due to all the extra
verbiage.  I DO believe there is a tooltip that pops up that explains what
the field is for, and it is DEFINITELY explained in the documentation.

-derek

On Tue, December 20, 2022 9:10 am, Eric Chapman wrote:

Thank you for that info!

Suggestion to developers: One could say "Our Billing ID", and the other
could say "Their Billing ID". Then I think it might be easier to
understand.

Thanks,
Eric

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Re: [GNC] 4.13

2022-12-20 Thread Phyllis Bruce

Thanks for the explanation.  I use windows files so had no idea.


> on 12/20/22 6:15 AM, Phyllis Bruce wrote:
> > Adrien, what is a dmg?  People on this list use a lot of acronyms and I
> get lost.
>
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Re: [GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

Why don't you make the column wider?  Your description column is HUGE.
Try double-clicking on the "Bil" header to make it wider -- or grab the
right side and drag to the right --- and then reduce the description
column.

I believe that is the "Billable?" column, which says that the line-item is
billable back to a customer.

-derek

On Tue, December 20, 2022 9:08 am, Eric Chapman wrote:
> If I can get a screenshot to go through to the GnuCash e-mail list,
> attached is what I was talking about (when "Edit Bill" is chosen).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
> On 12/19/22 22:23, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> Not sure what you mean, I've attached a screenshot of my Edit Bill
>> window.
>>
>> Is this what you are seeing?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> On 12/19/22 9:17 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:
>>> Adrien,
>>>
>>> I appreciate your help. For whatever reason I did not see the "Post"
>>> button at the top :)
>>>
>>> What does the "BIL" column at the end of the "Edit Bill" window do? I
>>> can put an X in it or leave it
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Re: [GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?

At the time it was written, screens were much smaller so phrases were
abbreviated otherwise you'd need a 3k-wide screen due to all the extra
verbiage.  I DO believe there is a tooltip that pops up that explains what
the field is for, and it is DEFINITELY explained in the documentation.

-derek

On Tue, December 20, 2022 9:10 am, Eric Chapman wrote:
> Thank you for that info!
>
> Suggestion to developers: One could say "Our Billing ID", and the other
> could say "Their Billing ID". Then I think it might be easier to
> understand.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
> On 12/20/22 09:08, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> One is your reference to the bill.  The other is the vendor's reference
>> to
>> the bill (e.g. their invoice number).
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> On Tue, December 20, 2022 9:04 am, Eric Chapman wrote:
>>> Hi, all,
>>>
>>> I'll try to attach a 49.9KB screen shot to this email, but not inline.
>>> I
>>> noticed another new-to-the-list person seemed successful in attaching
>>> images that way. My in-the-body-of-the-email ones don't seem to go
>>> through.
>>>
>>> What I'm wondering is how do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ in the
>>> "Edit Bill" area?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Eric Chapman
>

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Re: [GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?


Thank you for that info!

Suggestion to developers: One could say "Our Billing ID", and the other 
could say "Their Billing ID". Then I think it might be easier to understand.


Thanks,
Eric

On 12/20/22 09:08, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi,

One is your reference to the bill.  The other is the vendor's reference to
the bill (e.g. their invoice number).

-derek

On Tue, December 20, 2022 9:04 am, Eric Chapman wrote:

Hi, all,

I'll try to attach a 49.9KB screen shot to this email, but not inline. I
noticed another new-to-the-list person seemed successful in attaching
images that way. My in-the-body-of-the-email ones don't seem to go
through.

What I'm wondering is how do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ in the
"Edit Bill" area?

Thank you!
Eric Chapman

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Re: [GNC] How to get screenshots to go through to the e-mail list?

You need to attach it as an attachment.  Inline does not work -- they get
stripped from the list.
Your attachment made it through just fine in your question (after this)
about Bill ID vs Billing ID.

-derek

On Tue, December 20, 2022 8:54 am, Eric Chapman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm rather a newbie both to GnuCash and the list. I try to attach
> screenshots and they do not go through. Can I do anything to get
> approved for them? Or do I just need to wait? Maybe it's a function of
> time or the number of emails sent to the list? (I realize the need to
> not let first time posters include images.)
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Chapman
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[GNC] How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?

If I can get a screenshot to go through to the GnuCash e-mail list, 
attached is what I was talking about (when "Edit Bill" is chosen).


Thanks,

Eric

On 12/19/22 22:23, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Not sure what you mean, I've attached a screenshot of my Edit Bill 
window.


Is this what you are seeing?

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/19/22 9:17 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:

Adrien,

I appreciate your help. For whatever reason I did not see the "Post" 
button at the top :)


What does the "BIL" column at the end of the "Edit Bill" window do? I 
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Re: [GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?

Hi,

One is your reference to the bill.  The other is the vendor's reference to
the bill (e.g. their invoice number).

-derek

On Tue, December 20, 2022 9:04 am, Eric Chapman wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> I'll try to attach a 49.9KB screen shot to this email, but not inline. I
> noticed another new-to-the-list person seemed successful in attaching
> images that way. My in-the-body-of-the-email ones don't seem to go
> through.
>
> What I'm wondering is how do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ in the
> "Edit Bill" area?
>
> Thank you!
> Eric Chapman
>
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Re: [GNC] How to get screenshots to go through to the e-mail list?

2022-12-20 Thread Murugan Muruganandam

Eric welcome to the community, please use image attachment as files instead of 
embedding the same in the email.




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 10:54 AM
To: GNUcash User List 
Subject: [GNC] How to get screenshots to go through to the e-mail list?

Hi,

I'm rather a newbie both to GnuCash and the list. I try to attach
screenshots and they do not go through. Can I do anything to get
approved for them? Or do I just need to wait? Maybe it's a function of
time or the number of emails sent to the list? (I realize the need to
not let first time posters include images.)

Thanks,
Eric Chapman

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[GNC] "Edit Bill": How do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ?


Hi, all,

I'll try to attach a 49.9KB screen shot to this email, but not inline. I 
noticed another new-to-the-list person seemed successful in attaching 
images that way. My in-the-body-of-the-email ones don't seem to go through.


What I'm wondering is how do "Bill ID" and "Billing ID" differ in the 
"Edit Bill" area?


Thank you!
Eric Chapman

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[GNC] How to get screenshots to go through to the e-mail list?


Hi,

I'm rather a newbie both to GnuCash and the list. I try to attach 
screenshots and they do not go through. Can I do anything to get 
approved for them? Or do I just need to wait? Maybe it's a function of 
time or the number of emails sent to the list? (I realize the need to 
not let first time posters include images.)


Thanks,
Eric Chapman

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[GNC] Fwd: How to use Vendors & Accts Payable, but pay via Credit card?




If I can get a screenshot to go through to the GnuCash e-mail list, this 
is what I was talking about (when "Edit Bill" is chosen):


Thanks,
Eric

On 12/19/22 22:23, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Not sure what you mean, I've attached a screenshot of my Edit Bill 
window.


Is this what you are seeing?

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/19/22 9:17 PM, Eric Chapman wrote:

Adrien,

I appreciate your help. For whatever reason I did not see the "Post" 
button at the top :)


What does the "BIL" column at the end of the "Edit Bill" window do? I 
can put an X in it or leave it blank.

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Re: [GNC] 4.13

2022-12-20 Thread Christian Lynbech

I am on a Mac, and it worked here (about says the correct 4.13); I
upgraded via the MacUpdater application.

   /Christian

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On Tue, Dec 20 2022, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Are you on a Mac by any chance? You need to open the dmg and drag
gnucash.app to Applications. (the dmg now has the shortcut to make it
easier)

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/19/22 10:54 PM, Orith wrote:
> good morning,
> *I downloaded and followed the instructions. but, when I opened the
> "about"
> the gnu is still 4.12.   so it did not load, correct?  thanks in advance,
> orith*

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Re: [GNC] 4.13


dmg is the ending suffix of a Mac 'Disk Image' file.

It is used to package software and other items for transfer between 
MacOS systems.


In this case, GnuCash is distributed as a '.dmg' file.

When you open it on a Mac, a Finder window opens showing the contents of 
the 'disk'.


You can then copy items out of the image file to your computer.

Mac apps can be distributed and installed this way, even after Apple 
introduced the App Store.


The actual app is contained in a bundle (special type of folder) with an 
".app" extension, and this is usually what you need to copy over to your 
Applications folder to 'install' it. (another method of installation 
involves ".pkg" or package files, roughly analogous to Windows 
installers, but GnuCash does not use this method)


While some apps can be run directly from a .dmg, GnuCash needs to be 
'installed' first.


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/20/22 6:15 AM, Phyllis Bruce wrote:

Adrien, what is a dmg?  People on this list use a lot of acronyms and I get 
lost.


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Re: [GNC] 4.13

2022-12-20 Thread Phyllis Bruce

Adrien, what is a dmg?  People on this list use a lot of acronyms and I get 
lost.

Thanks

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 12:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you on a Mac by any chance? You need to open the dmg and drag 
> gnucash.app to Applications. (the dmg now has the shortcut to make it easier)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On 12/19/22 10:54 PM, Orith wrote:
>> good morning,
>> *I downloaded and followed the instructions. but, when I opened the "about"
>> the gnu is still 4.12.   so it did not load, correct?  thanks in advance,
>> orith*
> 
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Re: [GNC] Rounding discrepancy in payment processing

2022-12-20 Thread Alaa Zeineldine

Hello Dave,

 

Sounds reasonable. I will do this as soon as I get some free time this evening.

 

Regards,

 

Alaa

 

From: Dr. David Kirkby  
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 4:38 AM
To: Alaa Zeineldine 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Rounding discrepancy in payment processing

 

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 01:04, Alaa Zeineldine mailto:a...@expertwell.com> > wrote:

This is the first time I email to the list. So, I don't know if screenshots
will show up, but I am including below a succession of screenshots for a
fake customer invoice to demonstrate the problem.

 

 

Yes they do show up. It would probably be worth your while creating a test 
.gnucash file, emailing that, and let people see if they get the problem with 
your file. 



Thanks for your help.

 

Dave 

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Re: [GNC] How can I find cost of expenses, including tax?