Re: [GNC] Unreconciling

2023-11-14 Thread David Carlson
Phyllis,

It is almost that simple!  If you click on any of the "y" letters, they
will change to "n" after warning you.  After that just start a new
reconciliation for whichever month is next.  You can mark them "c" or not
nextt if it helps you match transactions to the bank statements.



On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 3:46 PM Phyllis Bruce  wrote:

> David Carlson wrote:
>
> "If you remember that the reconciliation ending balance was correct in
> GnuCash fairly recently a process that will actually work would be to
> *unreconcile* all transaction splits after a given date, then
> re-reconciling
> each month after that date with your bank statements handy.."
>
> David, I was unaware I could safely unreconcile statements!  Is it a simple
> matter of changing the "y" to a "c" and does that take the
> reconciliation screen back to a previous reconciliation?
>
> I have a $219 discrepancy on a bank record and of course there is no single
> transaction that got me there.  I don't mind doing one account.
>
> Thanks much!
>
> Phyllis Bruce
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Re: [GNC] Unreconciling

2023-11-14 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yes, simply change the flag from 'y' to 'c' or 'n'. ('c' - cleared will 
be auto-checked for you in the reconciliation window, 'n' - no, will not)


It isn't so much of 'going back to a previous screen' as no such thing 
exists, but rather you will be re-reconciling to whatever date (and 
balance) you desire.


There is no requirement this be done monthly or on any other periodic 
basis. You can reconcile, realize you need to change a reconciled 
transaction that changes its flag, and re-reconcile.


You can give up trying to find an error, enter a balancing transaction 
and reconcile, then later find the error, fix it or enter a correcting 
entry, then remove the balancing transaction or reverse it, and 
re-reconcile as if you had it all correct the first time.


Other than the reconciliation function being the only way to change the 
flag to 'y' there is no other magic that happens. It is just a tool for 
you to compare your books for that account to an outside source.


Regards,
Adrien

On 11/14/23 3:45 PM, Phyllis Bruce wrote:

David Carlson wrote:

"If you remember that the reconciliation ending balance was correct in
GnuCash fairly recently a process that will actually work would be to
*unreconcile* all transaction splits after a given date, then re-reconciling
each month after that date with your bank statements handy.."

David, I was unaware I could safely unreconcile statements!  Is it a simple
matter of changing the "y" to a "c" and does that take the
reconciliation screen back to a previous reconciliation?

I have a $219 discrepancy on a bank record and of course there is no single
transaction that got me there.  I don't mind doing one account.


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[GNC] Unreconciling

2023-11-14 Thread Phyllis Bruce
David Carlson wrote:

"If you remember that the reconciliation ending balance was correct in
GnuCash fairly recently a process that will actually work would be to
*unreconcile* all transaction splits after a given date, then re-reconciling
each month after that date with your bank statements handy.."

David, I was unaware I could safely unreconcile statements!  Is it a simple
matter of changing the "y" to a "c" and does that take the
reconciliation screen back to a previous reconciliation?

I have a $219 discrepancy on a bank record and of course there is no single
transaction that got me there.  I don't mind doing one account.

Thanks much!

Phyllis Bruce
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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation with a strange opening balance

2023-11-14 Thread Kalpesh Patel
While "Finding reconciliation discrepancies from previous statements can be
extremely tedious and GnuCash doesn't have any tools to help. There's not
even a way to display historical reconciled balances." is correct, the Banks
(and by their proxy their Information Systems) have stepped up and have
gotten to the point where their online portals (that is if you have signed
up for it) have very good filtering capabilities when it comes to displaying
transactions by date range. In the US the Banks are required to keep 7 years
of statement available, and most banks now do very good job to getting them
to you at a moment's notice. 

Here is what I do that has worked well for me: 
If there were any unintended entries gotten added after reconcile  ('y' or
'c') then they normally appear as unreconciled ('n') which you can filter by
that status in the register (assuming that you normally reconcile accounts
like Bank, Credit Card and/or Investment accounts). This is likely to be
able to flag it down very quickly. If your last reconciled register suddenly
appears out-of-sync with respect to bank statement then review previous
statement(s). Check the beginning and ending balance of previous statements
and if they do not match then go back one more statement and compare. Rinse
and repeat until you get to the statement that actually matches. Your
culprit is likely to be somewhere in the statement following the one that
matches. Use the previous step of transaction status to locate the errant
entry and then correct as necessary. 

-Original Message-
From: john  
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 3:55 PM
To: Mahon Finbar 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Reconciliation with a strange opening balance



> On Nov 13, 2023, at 07:20, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user
 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The recent discussion on reconciliation was helpful in trying to sort out
some anomalies I have.
> 
> When I do the latest reconciliation of one of my accounts the opening
balance is 10,448.43 and gives me an amount of inbalance which is way off.
> 
> Following the advice in the recent posts I tried working backwards to see
if I could find any errors.
> 
> I got close to 0.00 from time to time and was satisfied enough to consider
a balancing entry, but was intrigued on where the 'error' might have been.
> 
> I set off to see where, but, in the course of my search, I tried to find
the number 10,443.43 in the account, as a baseline, but didn't find one.
> 
> If I understand the process of reconciliation the number should be
somewhere in the account, should it not??
> 
> Just tell me I am barking up the wrong tree, if I am making an error.

The reconcile info dialog that comes up when you click the reconcile button
has two balances: Starting balance and Ending balance. The first is the
reconciled balance for the account, that is the sum of all of the splits in
the account marked as reconciled. That's different from the opening balance,
which is the amount in the account when you created it in GnuCash. The
starting balance should match the starting balance on your statement. If it
doesn't then there's a mistake in reconciling a previous statement and you
need to either make a correcting entry in your account to get it to match or
dig through previous statements to try to find the discrepancy. The Ending
balance is what you should enter from your account statement or your bank's
website. It defaults to the balance of the last transaction on the date you
entered in the Reconciliation date entry.

When you finish that dialog the reconcile window opens and in the lower left
it shows the balances from the info window followed by Reconciled balance
and Difference, which update as you tick off transactions in the two panes
of the window; you should tick off the transactions that match your
statement, paying close attention to the amounts: Reconciliation is all
about making sure that there aren't any differences. Fix any differences in
the register and press enter to commit the change and it will be immediately
reflected in the  reconcile window. Once you have marked all of the
transactions the Ending and Reconciled balances should match, Difference
should be 0, and the Finish button in the toolbar should be enabled. 

You might not have a transaction balance matching the reconciled balance if
you have unbalanced transactions previous to the last reconciled one.  The
"R" column between Transfer Account and Debit/Deposit shows each
transaction's reconciled status: y for reconciled, n for unreconciled, c for
cleared, and v for voided. You can use the the Status page of View>Filter
By... to hide transactions by status.

Finding reconciliation discrepancies from previous statements can be
extremely tedious and GnuCash doesn't have any tools to help. There's not
even a way to display historical reconciled balances. 

When it comes to fixing discrepancies remember that banks can make errors
too, but you need documentation and time to get the bank 

Re: [GNC] Change the default "Find" from "Description" to "Value"?

2023-11-14 Thread john



> On Nov 14, 2023, at 09:06, David Kirkby  
> wrote:
> 
> If I want to find something, Edit -> Find will find it, but 99% of the time
> I want to search by a value, not by description. Is it possible to change
> the default, so I don't have to keep selecting "Value" each time?

No.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Change the default "Find" from "Description" to "Value"?

2023-11-14 Thread David Kirkby
If I want to find something, Edit -> Find will find it, but 99% of the time
I want to search by a value, not by description. Is it possible to change
the default, so I don't have to keep selecting "Value" each time?

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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to change description of reconciled translation?

2023-11-14 Thread sunfish62--- via gnucash-user
Changing the description won't change the reconciled status of a transaction in 
most versions of GnuCash. 

There was a period of time when any edits of a reconciled transaction would 
cause everything associated with the transaction to de-reconcile, but maybe 
you're not using one of those versions* (prior to 4.13, which is what I'm using 
on Windows).

But, ultimately, the worst that could happen (aside from a cataclysmic crash 
and the end of the world as we know it) is that the transaction gets 
de-reconciled, and you have to reconcile it again. Not such a big deal. 

⁣David T. ​

* yet another reason to specify your GnuCash version and operating system, BTW.

On Nov 14, 2023, 4:18 PM, at 4:18 PM, Mark at Lorimark 
 wrote:
>Make a back-up of your data and test it.
>
>You can edit notes and memos and it won't change the reconciliation 
>status (when I tested just now).
>
>~mark
>
>On 11/14/23 07:12, David Kirkby wrote:
>> I have a reconciled transaction in my bank account, but the
>description is
>> vague as to what it is. Can I change that safely - I don't need to
>change
>> the amount.
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Is it safe to change description of reconciled translation?

2023-11-14 Thread Mark at Lorimark

Make a back-up of your data and test it.

You can edit notes and memos and it won't change the reconciliation 
status (when I tested just now).


~mark

On 11/14/23 07:12, David Kirkby wrote:

I have a reconciled transaction in my bank account, but the description is
vague as to what it is. Can I change that safely - I don't need to change
the amount.


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[GNC] Is it safe to change description of reconciled translation?

2023-11-14 Thread David Kirkby
I have a reconciled transaction in my bank account, but the description is
vague as to what it is. Can I change that safely - I don't need to change
the amount.

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Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Essex, CM3 6DT
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