Re: [GNC] Auto-complete of Memo field suffers short term memory

2023-11-20 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Through further testing as I noted in the bug report followups, I have 
narrowed this down to GnuCash only auto-filling whatever has been 
previously entered in the same session.


Restarting the app causes the amnesia.

And this is for both Memo and Notes fields.

My next two steps are to test a fresh book and to test that and my 
existing book in Linux. (I'm on MacOS)


Regards,
Adrien

On 11/20/23 8:43 PM, R Losey wrote:

Yes, I am running 5.3 and I have this same problem. I had hoped it was
fixed in 5.4, and I'm saddened to learn that it is still with us.


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Re: [GNC] Auto-complete of Memo field suffers short term memory

2023-11-20 Thread R Losey
Yes, I am running 5.3 and I have this same problem. I had hoped it was
fixed in 5.4, and I'm saddened to learn that it is still with us.


On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 3:55 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> For clarity, I'm not referring to the auto-population of Memos and
> splits when a Description is matched.
>
> I'm talking about typing a new Memo in a new split or existing split for
> a new or existing transaction that shows the inconsistent and even then,
> limited, matching behavior.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 11/19/23 1:49 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > I've noticed this strange problem after upgrading to 5.0 and the issue
> > persists through 5.4.
> >
> > I'm curious if anyone else is experiencing this:
> >
> > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799133
> >
> > (I think the problem has been somewhat noted in another thread, but I
> > can't find it)
> >
> > Before 5.x, if I started typing text in a Memo field, it would
> > auto-complete with text that matched from a previous transaction's Memo
> > fields and would also auto-assign the account. This was very useful for
> > recording recurring line items, even if they were parts of transactions
> > with different Descriptions.
> >
> > Now, this behavior is mostly gone.
> >
> > I have seen some Memos auto-complete in 5.x, but only if I've used that
> > Memo text in a transaction since the upgrade, and oddly, sometimes, even
> > if I have used that text in a recent transaction, it might not
> > auto-complete.
> >
> > It is as if the Memo auto-complete can't see older transaction Memo
> > fields from before the upgrade, and only occasionally sees Memos from
> > transactions since the upgrade. Having a matching Description doesn't
> > seem to matter either.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] noobie question about split transactions

2023-11-20 Thread R Losey
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 4:24 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Good for you on paying the balance each month. I also treat our credit
> cards as a "30 day net account". Why pay interest? For those who respond
> "then why not pay cash or debit card?" note that these days many things
> require "by credit card" and you might also have greater fraud
> protection. Since have to use credit card for some, why not all. As long
> as you can resist the temptation to not pay the entire balance.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
>

My thoughts exactly... and note that some credit cards will give you cash
back on the spending you are doing anyway, and every little bit helps.


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Re: [GNC] noobie question about split transactions

2023-11-20 Thread R Losey
What you have been doing is interesting, but (as you've heard from the
feedback) not the recommended way of doing it.

I don't understand how you handled the dates; if the statement is dated 01
Nov, and has transactions throughout October, did you just enter them as
all occurring on 01 Nov?

We have made it a practice to get receipts for every transaction, throw
them in a drawer, and then enter everything once a week (using the proper
date).

When the credit card statement arrives, we reconcile it to what we've
entered and then set up the payment.

By the way, kudos on doing an import; I was too frightened after it failed
on me, but then I realized that I rarely go  back very often, so I just
started off the new year with the balances from Quicken and switched to
GnuCash, and not that I've been in GnuCash for about six years, I have
never needed to look at my old data from Quicken (although I still have it).



On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 2:07 PM Tim via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Thanks everyone. I believe I understand where I went wrong. I have been
> getting away with abusing Quicken for years but now I'll straighten up and
> fly right.
>
> Thanks to all of you for your help!
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: timothyscu...@yahoo.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2023 11:33 AM
> > To: stepbystepf...@comcast.net; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Cc: timothyscu...@yahoo.com
> > Subject: RE: [GNC] noobie question about split transactions
> >
> > Ah. I think I see my error.
> >
> > When I get a credit card bill, I should open the credit card account and
> enter
> > each line item as a transaction. I should be able to check my work by
> > comparing the balance on the account with my bill (I always pay in full
> every
> > month). Then as you say, paying the bill is a simple transaction between
> the
> > bank account and credit card account.
> >
> > Have I understood correctly?
> >
> > Thank you for your patience.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: gnucash-user  > > bounces+timothyscully=yahoo@gnucash.org> On Behalf Of Michael or
> > > Penny Novack
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2023 11:20 AM
> > > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > > Subject: Re: [GNC] noobie question about split transactions
> > >
> > > > I came to entering a credit card payment, which I enter as a split
> > > > transaction with line items for every line item in the credit card
> bill,
> > > > after I had spent many laborious minutes entering 50 or 60 line
> items I
> > > > accidentally hit enter and all of my work was deleted.
> > >
> > > Stop right there. NOT a split transaction at the time you make a
> payment
> > > on your credit card debt. THAT is a simple "transfer" transaction,
> debit
> > > credit card and credit bank account.
> > >
> > > Those things you purchased with your credit card? Those became expenses
> > > when you used your credit card to purchase them. debit to the
> > > [particular expense account and credit to the credit card << if you had
> > > paid by check or cash from your wallet, would be credit bank account or
> > > credit wallet >>
> > >
> > > You were thinking about CASH FLOW  which is different << you can be "in
> > > the black" in your books but in trouble with a cash flow crunch or be
> > > fine (for now) as far as cash flow goes but deep in the red for the
> long
> > > term. Separate things. >>
> > >
> > > Gnucash is proper double entry bookkeeping. You need to get a good
> grasp
> > > of the fundamentals of double entry bookkeeping and concepts of
> > > accounting. Nothing advanced or fancy, just the fundamental. If what I
> > > have written about entering (these) transactions isn't making sense to
> > > you, reread the tutorial.
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Editable and Non-Editable Transactions in the same register

2023-11-20 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I'm not sure how you got to an 'edit payment' without first having a 
bill or invoice posted that the payment was applied to. It should only 
show that option if it has already been processed. Otherwise, it would 
say 'Assign as payment'.


Note, while you can certainly make manual transactions of bills, 
invoices and payments, the Business Features can't see them. They can 
only see what you process through them. That is, set up Vendors, 
Customers, enter Bills and Invoices, Post them, and Process Payment for 
them.


As far as GnuCash is concerned, anything done manually is like any other 
transaction. There is nothing special about it. It would no more be 
recognized as a bill, invoice, or payment than would any other random 
transaction.


Also in that screenshot, you entered a 'customer' called 'General 
Support' which shows no documents for them. (that is, you don't have 
posted and unpaid invoices for this 'General Support' customer.)


Perhaps read over the Tutorial & Concepts Guide concerning using the 
Business Features before proceeding.


Regards,
Adrien

On 11/20/23 5:17 PM, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
Ok, to get familiar, I went to 'edit a payment' (did not know that was 
there) and I got a pop-up payment editor with a message box reading;


"You have no valid 'post to' accounts.  Please create an account of type 
'' (double quotes with nothing in them)


(see attached)

~mark


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Re: [GNC] Editable and Non-Editable Transactions in the same register

2023-11-20 Thread Mark at Lorimark
Ok, to get familiar, I went to 'edit a payment' (did not know that was 
there) and I got a pop-up payment editor with a message box reading;


"You have no valid 'post to' accounts.  Please create an account of type 
'' (double quotes with nothing in them)


(see attached)

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Re: [GNC] Editable and Non-Editable Transactions in the same register

2023-11-20 Thread Mark at Lorimark

Thank you!

~mark

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Re: [GNC] Editable and Non-Editable Transactions in the same register

2023-11-20 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Mark,

Business Feature transactions in the AP/AR registers cannot be edited. 
They are immutable via normal means.


Manual transactions in those registers can be edited.

The correct way to edit an invoice/bill is to unpost, edit, repost.

If the payment is already linked and simple (applying to only one 
document) GnuCash will try to re-link it automatically.


The correct way to edit a payment transaction is to right-click and 
choose 'Edit Payment'.


Otherwise, there is a 'read-only' threshold for all transactions if you 
like, but it is rather limited in how it is set.


Regards,
Adrien

On 11/20/23 5:01 PM, Mark at Lorimark wrote:

I'm curious what causes register entries to go read-only?

I have an "income" account, where I post invoices.  Some of the entries 
there are editable, and some are not.  I'm wondering what causes these 
entries to be read-only or read-write?


The ones that are read-write seem to be entries that I made manually... 
to 'add bonus payments' to invoices - like adding a 'tip' to a bill. The 
invoice is $100 and the 'bonus payment' is $20, so I went back and 
"somehow I guess" added the additional $20.  Today, I just 'unpost' the 
invoice and add the necessary lines to change the value, re-post it, and 
then pay it (not sure if that's the 'right' way).


The ones that are read-only seem to be entries that came directly from 
the posted invoice.


So, I'm wondering what is controlling the editable-status of those entries?


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[GNC] Editable and Non-Editable Transactions in the same register

2023-11-20 Thread Mark at Lorimark

I'm curious what causes register entries to go read-only?

I have an "income" account, where I post invoices.  Some of the entries 
there are editable, and some are not.  I'm wondering what causes these 
entries to be read-only or read-write?


The ones that are read-write seem to be entries that I made manually... 
to 'add bonus payments' to invoices - like adding a 'tip' to a bill. The 
invoice is $100 and the 'bonus payment' is $20, so I went back and 
"somehow I guess" added the additional $20.  Today, I just 'unpost' the 
invoice and add the necessary lines to change the value, re-post it, and 
then pay it (not sure if that's the 'right' way).


The ones that are read-only seem to be entries that came directly from 
the posted invoice.


So, I'm wondering what is controlling the editable-status of those entries?

~mark


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Re: [GNC] Editable and Non-Editable Transactions in the same register

2023-11-20 Thread Mark at Lorimark

bah!  sorry... didn't mean this to be inside this thread!

~mark
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[GNC] Editable and Non-Editable Transactions in the same register

2023-11-20 Thread Mark at Lorimark

I'm curious what causes register entries to go read-only?

I have an "income" account, where I post invoices.  Some of the entries 
there are editable, and some are not.  I'm wondering what causes these 
entries to be read-only or read-write?


The ones that are read-write seem to be entries that I made manually... 
to 'add bonus payments' to invoices - like adding a 'tip' to a bill. 
The invoice is $100 and the 'bonus payment' is $20, so I went back and 
"somehow I guess" added the additional $20.  Today, I just 'unpost' the 
invoice and add the necessary lines to change the value, re-post it, and 
then pay it (not sure if that's the 'right' way).


The ones that are read-only seem to be entries that came directly from 
the posted invoice.


So, I'm wondering what is controlling the editable-status of those entries?

~mark

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Re: [GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread David Carlson
Your persistence paid off!  Glad that you found the problem.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:14 PM David Kirkby 
wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 21:14, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
> > Your ending balance is £98.00 more than your starting balance. That's
> > why only that one Debit gets you to zero.
> >
> > Are you saying the £107.29 transaction appears on this statement and
> > needs to be reconciled? If so, either you have a duplicate as Steve
> > mentioned, or you are missing an offsetting £107.29 Debit transaction.
> >
>
> Thank you. The transaction had been entered twice. One was reconciled and
> the other was not. I just deleted the one that was not reconciled.
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Re: [GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread David Kirkby
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 21:14, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Your ending balance is £98.00 more than your starting balance. That's
> why only that one Debit gets you to zero.
>
> Are you saying the £107.29 transaction appears on this statement and
> needs to be reconciled? If so, either you have a duplicate as Steve
> mentioned, or you are missing an offsetting £107.29 Debit transaction.
>

Thank you. The transaction had been entered twice. One was reconciled and
the other was not. I just deleted the one that was not reconciled.
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Re: [GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread David Kirkby
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 20:55, Steve Butler  wrote:

> I suspect you have a transaction for the  £107.29 that has already been
> reconciled when it shouldn't have been.  Probably for a different date.  Go
> get a transaction report for this account and sort by reconcile date.  Look
> at transactions reconciled after the last good reconciliation date.
>
> I once found a dupe that was entered for a year prior to the other.  Now
> as I reconcile I check the transaction date to be sure I'm not reconciling
> something with a very old date unless it was a true error that I went back
> and fixed.
>

Thank you Steve. It was indeed a duplicate transaction.
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Re: [GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Your ending balance is £98.00 more than your starting balance. That's 
why only that one Debit gets you to zero.


Are you saying the £107.29 transaction appears on this statement and 
needs to be reconciled? If so, either you have a duplicate as Steve 
mentioned, or you are missing an offsetting £107.29 Debit transaction.


If that £107.29 transaction does not appear on this statement, it should 
*not* be marked reconciled, thus you are done.


Does the £98.00 Debit appear on the statement? If not, why would you 
mark it reconciled?


Are those the correct matching opening and ending balances on the 
statement? If not, and you are just trying to fix an errant 
reconciliation, or re-reconcile transactions that got their flag 
changed, and you need to reconcile both the £98.00 Debit and the £107.29 
Credit, then make the ending balance only £620.64 and that should work. 
(£629.93+£98.00-£107.29=£620.64)


Regards,
Adrien

On 11/20/23 2:39 PM, David Kirkby wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 19:57, David Carlson 
wrote:


That image does not appear to be from the reconciliation tool.  If it is
from the reconciliation report, it probably cannot actually reconcile a
transaction, but I have never used that report and I dont know how it works.



That's correct, but here's a view from the reconciliation tool. I picked a
date that had just one extra transaction compared to the previous
reconciled amount. So selecting the £98 deposit the account will reconcile.
But to get to that point, the £107.29 must have already been reconciled,
but I'm still shown the option to select it.
[image: image.png]







On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 1:28 PM David Kirkby 
wrote:


I've reconciled my accounts. To do that I would have needed to include a
particular transaction of £107.29 to Digikey, but not the one of £176.20
to
Digikey on the same day. However, the £107.29 is not marked as reconciled.
If I try to reconcile to any later date, I'm always presented with the
option to reconcile that transaction. But the accounts will not reconcile
unless I ignore that one.

It seems the "n" in the reconciliation status needs to be changed to a
"y",
but why this is happening I don't have a clue.


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Re: [GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread Steve Butler
I suspect you have a transaction for the  £107.29 that has already been
reconciled when it shouldn't have been.  Probably for a different date.  Go
get a transaction report for this account and sort by reconcile date.  Look
at transactions reconciled after the last good reconciliation date.

I once found a dupe that was entered for a year prior to the other.  Now as
I reconcile I check the transaction date to be sure I'm not reconciling
something with a very old date unless it was a true error that I went back
and fixed.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 12:41 David Kirkby 
wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 19:57, David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
> > That image does not appear to be from the reconciliation tool.  If it is
> > from the reconciliation report, it probably cannot actually reconcile a
> > transaction, but I have never used that report and I dont know how it
> works.
> >
>
> That's correct, but here's a view from the reconciliation tool. I picked a
> date that had just one extra transaction compared to the previous
> reconciled amount. So selecting the £98 deposit the account will reconcile.
> But to get to that point, the must have already been reconciled,
> but I'm still shown the option to select it.
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 1:28 PM David Kirkby <
> drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've reconciled my accounts. To do that I would have needed to include a
> >> particular transaction of £107.29 to Digikey, but not the one of £176.20
> >> to
> >> Digikey on the same day. However, the £107.29 is not marked as
> reconciled.
> >> If I try to reconcile to any later date, I'm always presented with the
> >> option to reconcile that transaction. But the accounts will not
> reconcile
> >> unless I ignore that one.
> >>
> >> It seems the "n" in the reconciliation status needs to be changed to a
> >> "y",
> >> but why this is happening I don't have a clue.
> >>
> >>
> >> [image: image.png]
> >>
> >>
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Re: [GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread David Kirkby
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 at 19:57, David Carlson 
wrote:

> That image does not appear to be from the reconciliation tool.  If it is
> from the reconciliation report, it probably cannot actually reconcile a
> transaction, but I have never used that report and I dont know how it works.
>

That's correct, but here's a view from the reconciliation tool. I picked a
date that had just one extra transaction compared to the previous
reconciled amount. So selecting the £98 deposit the account will reconcile.
But to get to that point, the £107.29 must have already been reconciled,
but I'm still shown the option to select it.
[image: image.png]



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>
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 1:28 PM David Kirkby 
> wrote:
>
>> I've reconciled my accounts. To do that I would have needed to include a
>> particular transaction of £107.29 to Digikey, but not the one of £176.20
>> to
>> Digikey on the same day. However, the £107.29 is not marked as reconciled.
>> If I try to reconcile to any later date, I'm always presented with the
>> option to reconcile that transaction. But the accounts will not reconcile
>> unless I ignore that one.
>>
>> It seems the "n" in the reconciliation status needs to be changed to a
>> "y",
>> but why this is happening I don't have a clue.
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
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Re: [GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread David Carlson
That image does not appear to be from the reconciliation tool.  If it is
from the reconciliation report, it probably cannot actually reconcile a
transaction, but I have never used that report and I dont know how it works.



On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 1:28 PM David Kirkby 
wrote:

> I've reconciled my accounts. To do that I would have needed to include a
> particular transaction of £107.29 to Digikey, but not the one of £176.20 to
> Digikey on the same day. However, the £107.29 is not marked as reconciled.
> If I try to reconcile to any later date, I'm always presented with the
> option to reconcile that transaction. But the accounts will not reconcile
> unless I ignore that one.
>
> It seems the "n" in the reconciliation status needs to be changed to a "y",
> but why this is happening I don't have a clue.
>
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> --
> Dr David Kirkby Ph.D
> Kirkby Microwave Ltd
> Email: drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk
> Web: https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/
> Telephone 07910 441670 (UK) or +44 7910 441670 (international)
> Registered in England and Wales, company number 08914892.
> Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Essex, CM3 6DT
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[GNC] Transaction not showing as reconciled when it should be.

2023-11-20 Thread David Kirkby
I've reconciled my accounts. To do that I would have needed to include a
particular transaction of £107.29 to Digikey, but not the one of £176.20 to
Digikey on the same day. However, the £107.29 is not marked as reconciled.
If I try to reconcile to any later date, I'm always presented with the
option to reconcile that transaction. But the accounts will not reconcile
unless I ignore that one.

It seems the "n" in the reconciliation status needs to be changed to a "y",
but why this is happening I don't have a clue.


[image: image.png]


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Web: https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/
Telephone 07910 441670 (UK) or +44 7910 441670 (international)
Registered in England and Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Essex, CM3 6DT
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