Re: [GNC] F::Q Interface to GNC for pricing update

2024-01-17 Thread Geoff
Yes, GnuCash / Finance::Quote fetches the "latest" price for each 
security, there is no provision to retrieve historical prices (although 
you can enter them manually via the Price Editor, or import them from a 
CSV file - see attached).


Geoff
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On 18/01/2024 2:20 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
I'm pretty sure the answer to that is yes, as I seem to recall this 
question in the distant past, but things may have changed since then.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/17/24 5:32 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
Looking at the data structure returned by F::Q that is consumed by 
GNC, am I
correct in understanding that GNC is currently designed to consume 
only one

quote for one or more security per firing to update it?


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Re: [GNC] F::Q Interface to GNC for pricing update

2024-01-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Indeed yes, see the GnuCash Manual §8.6 Price Editor: 
https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-manual/tool-price.html


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/17/24 5:32 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

Looking at the data structure returned by F::Q that is consumed by GNC, am I
correct in understanding that GNC is currently designed to consume only one
quote for one or more security per firing to update it?


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Re: [GNC] F::Q Interface to GNC for pricing update

2024-01-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I'm pretty sure the answer to that is yes, as I seem to recall this 
question in the distant past, but things may have changed since then.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/17/24 5:32 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

Looking at the data structure returned by F::Q that is consumed by GNC, am I
correct in understanding that GNC is currently designed to consume only one
quote for one or more security per firing to update it?


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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone

David,

Are these still just scheduled or are they created and in the registers, 
but simply dated in the future?


If they are still scheduled but not created, then changing the template 
will alter them when they do fire.


If they are already created, there is no solution but individual manual 
entry, and as I noted in my other reply, I can't imagine that being 
implemented, but you can certainly ask.


The proper place to do so is file it on the GnuCash Bugzilla site with 
the prefix "RFE:" in the title.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/17/24 4:56 PM, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:

  Yes, when editing the template and there are future transactions matching the 
old template, I want it to ask me if I want to update the pre-scheduled old 
matching future transactions to match the new template.


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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone

You can't. They are already created.

The solution is don't create them in advance.

Otherwise, you are left with the tedium of manually editing each one 
individually.


I doubt the result of an SX has any link or record at all that it was 
created that way, much less has any tie to the template once created.


And I don't see how this usage of future transactions is anything other 
than related to budgeting. Forecasting is part of budgeting, and future 
transactions are forecasting. Of course, you don't have to take the next 
official literal step and budget an amount for those future periods, but 
that is just a formality.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/17/24 5:08 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
if there are already scheduled transaction fired from a given SX, and then you update the template for that SX, how do you back-fill all auto added transactions from that fired SX.  Remember that these auto created transactions show up in the reports 
which could be used for multitudes of reason, for example to understand 
outlay of monies for a year (which is different than budgeting IMHO).



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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone

I understood the OP referenced already created future transactions.

No matter what, those have to be manually and individually edited 
because they were already created.


I can't imagine an auto-updating template being implemented.

The solution would be to use a variable, and then not have them created 
so far in advance of the likelihood of that variable changing.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/17/24 1:08 AM, David H wrote:

* think * not honk - spellcheck? Fat fingers ?

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 5:07 pm, David H  wrote:


I honk he’s talking about having 1 template but the transactions have
already been created 12 months in advance. I.e. he wants to update the
created tens based on an updated template after the fact.


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Re: [GNC] Liability Balances - All payments disappeared

2024-01-17 Thread Adrien Monteleone

A little more detail to what Michael is asking for:

While viewing the Checking account register, click on View > Transaction 
Journal. That will show all splits in all transactions.


What you should see for each payment is a debit (left column amount) to 
the respective credit card account, and a credit (right column amount) 
to the checking account. (money going into the credit card account and 
out of the checking account)


If you do *not* see that, let us know what you do see. If you can 
include a screenshot of one or more of these payment transactions, that 
won't hurt. Feel free to obfuscate/blur any sensitive info. (and be sure 
to 'attach' the screenshot, do not paste it as part of the reply)


But you can also just type the info in a reply if you prefer.

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/17/24 1:14 PM, Khristine Ann Ramella wrote:

Hi there! So I opened my gnu cash this am and all of my credit card accounts 
show huge balances. My checking still shows them as paid, but all liabilities 
look as if they never rcd a payment. It was fine when i closed it the other 
day. A glitch in the matrix?


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[GNC] F::Q Interface to GNC for pricing update

2024-01-17 Thread Kalpesh Patel
Looking at the data structure returned by F::Q that is consumed by GNC, am I
correct in understanding that GNC is currently designed to consume only one
quote for one or more security per firing to update it? 

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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread Kalpesh Patel
I don't think it is matter of how many SXs you have for how many transactions 
but is more like if there are already scheduled transaction fired from a given 
SX, and then you update the template for that SX, how do you back-fill all auto 
added transactions from that fired SX. Remember that these auto created 
transactions show up in the reports which could be used for multitudes of 
reason, for example to understand outlay of monies for a year (which is 
different than budgeting IMHO).

-Original Message-
From: David Carlson  
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 7:42 AM
To: David H 
Cc: Gyle McCollam ; Gnucash Users 
; David G. Pickett 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

An SX can be constructed to have at least two separate register transactions, 
and probably as many as 12 register transactions but they may be limited to 
firing on the same schedule and date.  I have one SX wth two register 
transactions that has been in service for several months.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 1:09 AM David H  wrote:

> * think * not honk - spellcheck? Fat fingers ?
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 5:07 pm, David H  wrote:
>
> > I honk he’s talking about having 1 template but the transactions 
> > have already been created 12 months in advance. I.e. he wants to 
> > update the created tens based on an updated template after the fact.
> >
> > Regards David H.
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 10:43 am, Gyle McCollam 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Instead of having 11 or 12 sx templates, why not have one that 
> >> fires monthly?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Original message 
> >> From: "David G. Pickett via gnucash-user" 
> >> 
> >> Date: 1/16/24 6:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
> >> To: Gnucash Users 
> >> Subject: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.
> >>
> >> I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with 
> >> constant inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have 
> >> a way to, by interactive option after I update the template, have 
> >> gnucash update the already generated future transactions to match 
> >> an updated template transaction, so I do not need to update 11 or 12 more 
> >> places.
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
 Yes, when editing the template and there are future transactions matching the 
old template, I want it to ask me if I want to update the pre-scheduled old 
matching future transactions to match the new template.
On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 02:07:36 AM EST, David H 
 wrote:  
 
 I honk he’s talking about having 1 template but the transactions have already 
been created 12 months in advance. I.e. he wants to update the created tens 
based on an updated template after the fact.
Regards David H.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 10:43 am, Gyle McCollam  wrote:

Instead of having 11 or 12 sx templates, why not have one that fires monthly?



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: "David G. Pickett via gnucash-user" 
Date: 1/16/24 6:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with constant 
inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have a way to, by 
interactive option after I update the template, have gnucash update the already 
generated future transactions to match an updated template transaction, so I do 
not need to update 11 or 12 more places.
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Re: [GNC] Liability Balances - All payments disappeared

2024-01-17 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 1/17/2024 2:14 PM, Khristine Ann Ramella wrote:


Hi there! So I opened my gnu cash this am and all of my credit card accounts 
show huge balances. My checking still shows them as paid, but all liabilities 
look as if they never rcd a payment. It was fine when i closed it the other 
day. A glitch in the matrix?

Thanks!

Khris Ramella


So your checking account shows transactions. Well take a look at those 
transactions to see what the debit side accounts were. And we are just 
talking about your books, yes? not what on-line banking on-line credit 
cards shows << in other words, YOUR books as opposed to the books of the 
banks >>


Michael D Novack


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[GNC] Liability Balances - All payments disappeared

2024-01-17 Thread Khristine Ann Ramella



Hi there! So I opened my gnu cash this am and all of my credit card accounts 
show huge balances. My checking still shows them as paid, but all liabilities 
look as if they never rcd a payment. It was fine when i closed it the other 
day. A glitch in the matrix?

Thanks!

Khris Ramella
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread David Carlson
I just never tried more than two.  You did!



On Wed, Jan 17, 2024, 9:36 AM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On 2024-01-17 04:41, David Carlson wrote:
> > An SX can be constructed to have at least two separate register
> > transactions, and probably as many as 12 register transactions but they
> may
> > be limited to firing on the same schedule and date.  I have one SX wth
> two
> > register transactions that has been in service for several months.
>
> I'm wondering about the significance of your "probably as many as 12".
>
> My end-of-month SX, which contains deprecation of physical assets and
> amortization of prepayments such as insurance, property tax, HOA
> assessments, and subscriptions, has 29 transactions of two splits each.
> There are no formulas, however.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Deferred Income << the general case is "imputed income"

2024-01-17 Thread R Losey
I appreciate the various input here; it has been educational, so I wanted
particularly to add my thanks.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:17 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 1/16/2024 1:42 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > I'm thinking of a case where someone starts using GnuCash either at
> > the point they start taking disbursements or after. I'm about to help
> > a family member in that exact situation.
> >
> > While Deferred Income wasn't tracked along the way, I'll set up the
> > account with the present total as an opening balance and have them
> > transfer against that each distribution.
>
> That's a reasonable solution.
>
> I'd do it under equity. You can create for them there an account with a
> name like "deferred income". Presumably when you started the books for
> them, the other side of the transaction(*) entering the IRA balance as
> an asset was equity. All you would be doing now would be to "partition"
> equity transferring the remaining IRA balance form undifferentiated
> equity to ":deferred income:.
>
> Then as distributions are taken, the debits would be bank account and
> deferred income and the credits the IRA balance and income
> (current/taxable income)
>
> While this isn't necessary, could just debit equity, if you have the
> deferred income separated out it SHOWS. I'd certainly want my balance
> sheet to show that some of my net worth has a tax liability associated
> with it.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
> * If you used the "starting balance" tool no explicit transaction.
>
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2024-01-17 04:41, David Carlson wrote:
> An SX can be constructed to have at least two separate register
> transactions, and probably as many as 12 register transactions but they may
> be limited to firing on the same schedule and date.  I have one SX wth two
> register transactions that has been in service for several months.

I'm wondering about the significance of your "probably as many as 12".

My end-of-month SX, which contains deprecation of physical assets and
amortization of prepayments such as insurance, property tax, HOA
assessments, and subscriptions, has 29 transactions of two splits each.
There are no formulas, however.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

2024-01-17 Thread David Carlson
An SX can be constructed to have at least two separate register
transactions, and probably as many as 12 register transactions but they may
be limited to firing on the same schedule and date.  I have one SX wth two
register transactions that has been in service for several months.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 1:09 AM David H  wrote:

> * think * not honk - spellcheck? Fat fingers ?
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 5:07 pm, David H  wrote:
>
> > I honk he’s talking about having 1 template but the transactions have
> > already been created 12 months in advance. I.e. he wants to update the
> > created tens based on an updated template after the fact.
> >
> > Regards David H.
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 10:43 am, Gyle McCollam 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Instead of having 11 or 12 sx templates, why not have one that fires
> >> monthly?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Original message 
> >> From: "David G. Pickett via gnucash-user" 
> >> Date: 1/16/24 6:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
> >> To: Gnucash Users 
> >> Subject: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.
> >>
> >> I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with constant
> >> inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have a way to, by
> >> interactive option after I update the template, have gnucash update the
> >> already generated future transactions to match an updated template
> >> transaction, so I do not need to update 11 or 12 more places.
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