[GNC] I did not know this (was: Windows x64 release builds are missing)

[Dean Gibson]

However, I think there were later, technically 64-bit processors that 
did not include a few required 64-bit instructions (eg, "Compare and 
Swap"), so that Win-64 would not install on them.


I think the original Intel & Lenovo "compute sticks" fell into that 
category, circa 2015?


A trip down memory lane.

-- Dean



On 2024-01-19 09:06, john wrote:

Considering that the last 32-bit processor from Intel was the Pentium 4E 
released in 2004 and the last AMD one was 2005's K5 it's a tiny minority. 
Regardless of Win11's ability to run 32-bit programs, it requires a 64-bit 
processor (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications) 
so when Win10 goes out of support so does the need for 32-bit GnuCash  builds.
We're scheduled to release GnuCash 6 in January 2026 so that seems like the 
right time to make the switch.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Bad date not caught

[Dean Gibson]

Actually,, ISO8601 describes the valid (& preferred) date 
representations.  Anything with dashes is presumed to be -MM-DD.  Of 
course, just because this is an international standard, doesn't mean 
that everyone (including governments) follows it.  This includes the US 
FAA. which presumes MM-DD-YY.


So much for standards! I guess ISO8601 is pretty new (35 years ago) for 
some organizations!


On 2023-10-12 16:27, john wrote:

...

Another more involved fix would be to make the date parser a bit more liberal 
about delimiters and formats; the only slightly minor difficulty is ordering 
ambiguous sequences: for example 21-10-23 could be 21 October 2023 or 23 
October 2021 and 5/7/9 could be the 9 July 2005, 7 May 2009, or 5 July 2009.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Equity Account "problem"

[Dean Gibson]

There is no work-around because you do not understand the *BASICS *of 
accounting.  I would suggest a good book (there are many).


On 2023-07-11 15:48, Default User wrote:

Hi!

Is there a way to have Gnucash 4.13 (Debian GNU/Linux 12 Bookworm)
automatically calculate, and update "Equity" in the main accounts tab,
to show the "real" value of total Equity, after any action (or at least
transaction) that would affect "real" equity?

Example:
Start with the GnuCash "Common Accounts", as in gcashdata_1.gnucash
from the Tutorial and Concepts Guide, with all accounts set to $0.00.

Now make a transaction so that Equity:Opening Balances starts with
$10.00, and Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet starts with $10.00.
At this point, Equity = $10.00.  All good so far.

But now, enter a transaction such as Expenses:Auto:Fuel (increase by
$5.00), paid by transfer from Assets:Cash in Wallet (decrease by
$5.00).

So now:
Assets = $5.00
Liabilities = $0.00
Equity = $10.00

So . . .  if Assets - Liabilities = Equity, then
$5.00 - $0.00 = $10.00?

Thus, Equity does not seem to include the $5.00 Expense transaction.
[Note: of course, the Balance Sheet in Reports does correctly show
Equity as $5.00.]

I assume that GnuCash has always been this way, from the beginning, and
is not likely to change now!

But is there a viable "workaround"?  I am pretty sure I understand what
is going on, and maybe why it was done that way (so that the account
ledger tabs show legitimate transactions" only?)

But it does bother my sense of "correctness".

[Note: I did see somewhere online a link to a web page that may have at
one time shown the desired solution, but the web page has since been
404'd.]

: (




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Re: [GNC] Request for Automatic Reconciliation Function

[Dean Gibson]

You are asking for the impossible.  It is not possible to predict all 
the possible ways a computer program could make a mistake.  It's just 
not knowable.



On 2023-01-06 17:22, Bite Gao wrote:

GnuCash Developers and Maintainers:
  ...
  Personally, I do not found that how computer program could make 
mistake in this process. If you believe that the computer could have 
that happen, I would like to learn the detail about it.


  Yours,

   Bite Gao
Jan 7th, 2021


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Re: [GNC] Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?

[Dean Gibson]

I'm surprised that people don't buy ($$$) a book (see below) that gives 
them a good introduction to accounting, or even find a good tutorial 
online (no $$$), & instead go to a mailing list intended for the support 
of free (no $$$) SOFTWARE (not accounting), & then expect other people 
to teach them (on their time) the most RUDIMENTARY concept in all of 
accounting.


I taught myself accounting, & when there was something I didn't 
understand, I did the necessary research to LEARN.  Learning concepts in 
any field takes time & effort.


I normally ignore these types of issues on this list, but this 
discussion takes the cake.


References:

https://accountingplay.com/introduction-to-accounting/ (FREE - online)

https://play.google.com/store/audiobooks/details?id=AQAamCOYKM=US 
($$$ - audiobook)


https://www.amazon.com/Accounting-All-Dummies-Online-Practice/dp/1119453895/ 
($$$ - print)


There are also videos on YouTube.


On 2022-08-31 01:55, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:

I'm surprised no one has 
mentionedhttps://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/basics-accounting1.html#basics-accountingequation2

That's the Tutorial & Guide page that explains the concept.

David T.

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Re: [GNC] Debit and Credit columns wrong way round on one transaction report but not the other

[Dean Gibson]

Perhaps more likely that he is not using formal accounting labels, & one 
is an asset account & the other is not?



On 2022-04-08 10:21, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
If indeed your transactions were entered backwards, you can go through 
each one and put a minus sign in front of each and every debit and 
credit amount and they will swap sides after tabbing through. (there 
might be an easier way to swap them, but I'm not aware of such)


There's no such thing as a negative debit or negative credit. They are 
simply the 'negative' of each other which is why GnuCash will swap the 
value to the opposite column if you put a minus sign on a value. (you 
are either increasing or decreasing an account's balance, you can't 
'negative increase' or 'negative decrease' it.)


Note, you probably want to turn on View > Transaction Journal while 
doing this so you see all splits in a transaction. Be sure to reverse 
every single split in every transaction or else you'll have a mess of 
Imbalance entries to deal with.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/8/22 5:19 AM, Chris Green wrote:

I have two accounts for my PCC using GnuCash, one is the general
church fund and the other is the buiding fund.

For some odd reason the Debit and Credit column labels are the wrong
way round on the building fund, other reports are OK.  What's going on?




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[GNC] Is the directory .gnucash still used by v4.9?

[Dean Gibson]

Is the directory .gnucash still used by v4.9?
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[GNC] Difference on what "Add to Start Menu" means

[Dean Gibson]

I just installed v4.9, coming from v2.6.21.  I've installed a fair 
number of Windows programs in my life, & my experience is that the 
common meaning of "Add to Start Menu" means (on Windows 10) installing a 
"tile" to "Start" (the portion that pops out when you press the "Start" 
button"), & no more.


In no way (in my experience), does it mean, adding (or NOT) shortcuts to 
the "Start Menu\Programs" folder inside "C:\ProgramData\".  Except for 
drivers, program shortcuts are ALWAYS added to the "Start Menu\Programs" 
folder.  After all, that's why we can specify the GnuCash folder name. 
There are LOTS of reasons why people want their programs listed in 
"Start Menu\Programs\" but not in "Start".


Microsoft is 100% responsible for this confusion of terminology. This 
confusion leads to people like me (who NEVER click "Add to Start ..." -- 
we add the tile later)  to think that the install failed. Other than 
going to "C:\Program Files (x86)\...", there is no way, unless one 
manually creates a shortcut (or uses one on the desktop) to start the 
program.


Now that I know ...
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Re: [GNC] reconcile problem?

[Dean Gibson]

Well, I have multiple multiple cards with the same bank, & it's no 
trouble to detect the payments during import & deal with them in an 
appropriate manner.  I n my case, I delete them from the import.  That 
makes the reconciliation balance to the amount that was due.  Then, when 
I import payments from by checking account, I allocate the payments to 
the correct card account.


GNUcash is reasonable accounting software.  It just doesn't do thinking 
for each individual's particular situation.



On 2022-02-25 08:20, David Carlson wrote:

That came up in another thread a couple of weeks ago.  As far as I know,
the only solution is to be very careful in the matching step of the import.
   You can help yourself when making the payments to be sure they have
different dates or amounts, or even paying out of different checking
accounts.

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:11 AM scum buster  wrote:


Sidebar question --- do any of you have more than one credit card with the
same bank?   That is where I am running into issues when I import and
"clear" (I have always called this "reconciling" but I guess there is a
difference?)

The bank just has a line item "bankname payment"  , same for each card
account.

That is where I run into issues trying to manually "clear" and that throws
my account balances in GC off

-Original Message-
From: Adrien Monteleone [mailto:adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 2:15 PM
To:gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] reconcile problem?

Transactions won't reconcile themselves, but you can clear them either
manually or via an import.

If you opened a backup by mistake, that would result in something
showing 'unreconciled' if the backup was before the reconciliation.

The only way to get the 'y' to appear in the register is through a
reconciliation. Which means you in fact checked it off a previous time.

You can re-do a reconciliation by changing all of the affected
transactions back to 'n' or 'c', and then trying again. Be sure to
remove any adjusting transactions you made during the last
reconciliation. You probably don't need them. (but can always re-create
if you do)

Then proceed with this months reconciliation.

In the future, if you ever notice transactions appearing 'c' or 'n' when
you know they should be 'y' means you've edited them in a manner that
will change the flag. (either in that register or one connected to the
transaction)

If you don't get warnings about this, go to Actions > Reset Warnings...
and adjust as needed.

When you edit a transaction and the flag changes (or you discover it
later) simply re-reconcile and clear the affected transaction(s). (and
if you are editing amounts, double check you didn't make an adjusting
entry, because again, you might no longer need it!)

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/23/22 9:33 AM, Paul Kinzelman wrote:

That's a good question and I think that could be an explanation
for the resurrection of the reconciled transactions which happened
quite awhile ago when I was new to GC.

But that doesn't explain how a transaction could become
reconciled on its own like the one that happened this month, which
tipped me over the edge to post about it.




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Re: [GNC] Hiding accounts of zero

[Dean Gibson]

Two ways to do this:

1) View -> Filter By -> Other
uncheck "show zero total accounts"


I forgot about this, as I *never* recommend it, because it is subject to 
the "Law of Unintended Consequences."

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Re: [GNC] Hiding accounts of zero

[Dean Gibson]

First all, you can hide individual accounts.  However, what I do, is 
create an account group called "Prior stocks" & move prior stocks to 
that group, & then collapse that group.



On 2021-08-06 08:05, Graham wrote:

Sorry if this is a basic question, but I've tried searching to no avail.

I'm thinking of stock accounts, where many have been bought and sold. 
Is there a way of showing the account tree to 'hide' accounts of zero 
value, or zero stock?


I could delete the account, but I want to keep the record, and I may 
want to buy back in the future, so it keeps all the details for me.


However, it is a pain scrolling through long lists of stock I no 
longer own. Similarly for old bank accounts such as term deposits; I'd 
like to keep the details, just not have them showing up all the time 
in the account list.


Thanks in advance,

--
Cheerio, Graham




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Re: [GNC] Possible Bug with GNUCash - GNUCash cannot see/open files with OneDrive

[Dean Gibson]

On 2021-07-20 08:40, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, July 20, 2021 11:33 am, Cameron Podd wrote:

Can't parse the URL
/Users//OneDrive/Documents/GnuCashData.gnucash
What OS/Distro are you using?
Is OneDrive actually *mounted*?
Can you browse to /Users//OneDrive/Documents from a
Terminal/Command-line and see your data file there?


I've had my GnuCash files in OneDrive for years without a problem.

However, there is one issue that *all users who put their files in the 
Documents folder* need to acquaint themselves with:


Ever since Windows XP (& I think before), Windows has had "Special 
Folders" ( see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_folder ) that 
appear to be in the user's "home" directory, can be moved elsewhere & 
still appear to be in the home directory.  There are currently twelve 
such folders, & one of them is "Documents". This is why most users see 
two copies of each of these folders in File Explorer.  One is the real 
folder, & one is a Special Folder that points to the real folder.  
Special Folders are visible in File Explorer, but not in a command window.


"Special Folders" is a really *STUPID* name, & I personally refer to 
them as Shell Folders (because they only appear in the File Explorer. 
which technically a "shell" in computer terminology).  However, for the 
purpose of this message, I will use Microsoft's terminology.


This feature has several advantages (& I use it), but *only if you 
educate people about it *(which goes against the grain of Microsoft 
clearly documenting anything, other than in the bowels of Tech Notes)!


Windows has been known to change the Special Folders to refer to actual 
folders in OneDrive, leaving the original real folders (& their files) 
intact in the home folder.  Or, after complaints, it has moved the files 
from home folders to the OneDrive folders, leaving the original folder 
empty.  Now, when you have *TWO *real Documents folders (one in the home 
directory & one in OneDrive), plus the Special Folder that appears in 
File Explorer (but not in a command window), things can get confusing 
for the uninformed user.


Most 3rd party software ignores the Special Folder pointer, & just uses 
the real Documents folder.   However, if the real Documents folder is 
not pointed to by the Special Documents folder, it can appear that your 
files are gone!


Solution: *Don't EVER put non-Microsoft files in a Documents folder*.  
Create a new folder in OneDrive that's not in your Documents folder, & 
it will be untroubled by this nonsense.


ps: Hint: If you want to have both Documents folders easily 
distinguished from the Special Folder, put references to them in Libraries.



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Re: [GNC] OFX Home Sunset Announcement

[Dean Gibson]

I don't know.  I wrestled with the issue enough to give up.


On 2021-04-25 20:28, John Ralls wrote:

By "that new OAUTH2 interface" do you mean something similar to the one USAA 
adopted in January? If so it would be useful to collect the URIs for obtaining the new 
online credentials in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Apr 25, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Dean Gibson  wrote:

My situation:

* AmEx still supports OFX direct & via an OFX file download from my
   web account.
* Chase now only supports OFX direct via that new OAUTH2 interface,
   but also supports OFX file download from my web account.
* Schwab now only supports OFX direct via that new OAUTH2 interface, &
   there is currently no web download option. Fortunately, I have so
   few bank transactions each month, I just duplicate a prior
   transaction in GnuCash & edit it.

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Re: [GNC] OFX Home Sunset Announcement

[Dean Gibson]

My situation:

 * AmEx still supports OFX direct & via an OFX file download from my
   web account.
 * Chase now only supports OFX direct via that new OAUTH2 interface,
   but also supports OFX file download from my web account.
 * Schwab now only supports OFX direct via that new OAUTH2 interface, &
   there is currently no web download option. Fortunately, I have so
   few bank transactions each month, I just duplicate a prior
   transaction in GnuCash & edit it.


-- Dean


On 2021-04-25 15:46, John Ralls wrote:

OFX DirectConnect outside of Intuit has been pretty dicey since Microsoft killed off 
their Money project. The handful of non-Intuit programs (FLOSS and otherwise) that use it 
have never been on any bank's radar. Just try calling a bank's customer service and 
asking about using GnuCash, KMyMoney, or even MoneyDance to retrieve your transactions. 
Nobody here has ever reported getting anything besides "we only support Quicken and 
Quickbooks".

GnuCash isn't competing with online bill-paying services in the US. AFAIK no US 
bank allows that via OFX Direct Connect and even if some did we don't have the 
resources to reverse-engineer the protocols so that Martin could implement it. 
Aside from that online banking is a bit of a side job for GnuCash anyway. There 
are free online track-your-money services and yup, you're the product not the 
customer. I believe that there will always be enough people who understand that 
to keep GnuCash worthwhile.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Apr 25, 2021, at 3:15 PM, David Carlson  wrote:

As a user, I wonder if this is an omen of the sunset of OFX altogether outside 
of Intuit.  And if so, would it make more sense to look at the long term 
survival of GnuCash in the face of cloud based alternatives, for example.

I personally do not want my financial data and bill paying data exposed 
wholesale to a cloud based bill paying service that purports to track your 
personal finances as a side benefit, but my bank is giving exactly that away to 
it's customers, and it appears that a lot of their customers are biting.  I 
cannot believe that earning interest on 'float' makes enough profit to pay for 
it and some company's bottom line.

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 4:03 PM Derek Atkins  wrote:
Is this something we should take over?

-derek

On Sun, April 25, 2021 3:34 pm, John Ralls wrote:

I happened to be on https://ofxhome.com today and noticed that the owner
had posted this on 28 February:


Beginning in August of 2021 (6 months from now) OFX Home will go read
only. In February of 2022 (one year from now) I will shut down OFX Home
completely.
I have kept the site limping along but I haven't done any work on it in
years. I think there are a lot of really cool things that could be done
with it. But sadly I am not the person to do it.
If you are interested in taking over the site, please read me post here:
http://www.ofxhome.com/ofxforum/viewtopic.php?id=49812
Thanks for reading.




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Re: [GNC] Single User two Geographically Separate Computers

[Dean Gibson]

This is what I do, & it works fine.  Note that settings, including 
AQBanking info, is stored in folders in your user area on each machine.  
You can also share those through OneDrive, but that's a bit advanced.



On 2021-02-20 19:40, Peter Williamson wrote:

Hi

I am a new gnucash user and would like operate as a single user on two 
geographically separated computers.  I would use each computer on alternate 
months depending on my location at the time.

I am not very computer literate and I am proposing to use Onedrive to store my 
gnucash files and then access them from whichever of the computers is in my 
current location.

Would this work?  Is there a better way of achieving this operating setup?

Peter



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Re: [GNC] Amex won't let me access QFX data without a Quicken Account

[Dean Gibson]

You can still do it;  I just did seconds ago. You just have to login to 
the AmEx web site, browse to downloads, & select the Quicken option.


You then have to import the file into GnuCash.  It's not as neat as just 
doing it directly, but it does give you a backup file.


Chase bank did this about a year ago, & I use the above technique with 
them as well.


Since I download the PDF statement at the same time as I download the 
.QFX file, its not a big deal for me.


Much more of a problem is Schwab, which has adopted the same security 
change as the above two firms, but (last I checked a month ago) has NOT 
provided a download option within the website.




On 2021-01-04 12:56, Steve Cohen wrote:

...  Amex technical support is useless.  What are my options?
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Re: [GNC] Negative attitudes [was: Re: Negative numbers]

[Dean Gibson]

[see below]

On 2020-09-13 13:42, Dean Gibson wrote:
I don't want to beat this dead horse too much more, but I do want to 
address an aspect of the general issue of entitlement that I have not 
seen addressed (and may not be immediately relatable to the current 
issue at hand):


...

There's an old saying about giving a man a fish vs. teaching him how 
to fish.


I used to offer help here, but it quickly became obvious to me that 
many questioners simply wanted to solve the immediate problem at hand, 
rather than LEARN concepts behind what they are asking. So, I don't 
participate any more, but I read the message traffic, which reinforces 
my opinion.  Not sorry.  Sorry.


Sincerely, Dean


I _DO_ want to express my appreciation for the several persistent souls 
on this forum that repeatedly answer the same old questions, day after 
day, year after year.


-- Dean
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Re: [GNC] Negative attitudes [was: Re: Negative numbers]

[Dean Gibson]

I don't want to beat this dead horse too much more, but I do want to 
address an aspect of the general issue of entitlement that I have not 
seen addressed (and may not be immediately relatable to the current 
issue at hand):


It's one thing to complain about features that you want, or want 
differently.


It's entirely another thing to come on this forum and expect help because:

1. You don't understand the basics of how to use the operating system 
you have.  There are lots of books & other resources that are available 
to LEARN how to install/uninstall programs & find, create, delete, & 
backup your data, for whichever operating system you have chosen.


2. You are too cheap to buy Windows, & then need an education on using & 
navigating Linux.  (This isn't a Windows vs Linux thing; I run two Linux 
file servers at home, plus two at Amazon Web Services Linux servers for 
web/mail/dns/database services.)


3. You don't understand the basics of elementary accounting & 
bookkeeping, & repeatedly ask questions about how to do something in 
GnuCash, when in reality the answer is obvious to someone who has taken 
the time to LEARN (there's that word again). Again, there are lots of 
books & other resources that are available to LEARN basic bookkeeping & 
accounting.


4. You sign up for a 3rd party message system, because you don't want to 
deal with the current, EASY TO USE, system, & then complain here about 
getting duplicate messages, because you don't take the time to LEARN 
what you are doing or how things work.


There's an old saying about giving a man a fish vs. teaching him how to 
fish.


I used to offer help here, but it quickly became obvious to me that many 
questioners simply wanted to solve the immediate problem at hand, rather 
than LEARN concepts behind what they are asking.  So, I don't 
participate any more, but I read the message traffic, which reinforces 
my opinion.  Not sorry.  Sorry.


Sincerely, Dean
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Re: [GNC] Still no access to Gnucash Nabble

[Dean Gibson]

I don't intend to be mean, but I look forward to the day when there is 
no more Nabble AND there is no replacement anywhere on the Internet.


On 2020-07-23 18:40, David Cousens wrote:

Jimmy,

It would appear that whoever was administrating the Nabble interface to GnuCash 
is no longer active and Nabble itself is
currently undergoing  financial problems. It is totally independent from the 
GnuCash development team who maintain the
mailing list which the Nabble interface mirrors but have no input or control of 
that nabble interface.  I have contacted
Nabble directly but they do not appear to be able to fix any problems or 
transfer administration of the Nabble GnuCash
interface. It will be better to avoid the problem and use the mailing list 
directly at least until nabble gets sorted
out. As they are closing down servers and transferring accounts the interface 
may disappear in any case.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Change account type by editing XML?

[Dean Gibson]

Hmm, I'm pretty sure I tried this (because I had the same issue), & it 
worked.  However, that was years ago, probably on Gnucash 2.4.  I'm 
still on 2.6 (I tried 3.7, & didn't care for the "look").


I was so "burned" early on by the handling of A/P & A/R accounts, that I 
moved all my transactions in those accounts to new "A/P" & "A/R" 
accounts, except that they are of type Asset & Liability, & I manage 
them myself.


On 2020-04-29 17:54, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Already reported earlier today, that doesn’t work.

I suggested it earlier, and then tested it on my own book. Indeed, once there 
are transactions in the errant account, it cannot be changed. This must be 
something specific to type A/R and/or A/P accounts.

Regards,
Adrien


On Apr 29, 2020 w18d120, at 5:16 PM, Dean Gibson  
wrote:

Create a new account in the desired location, & then delete the old account.  When you 
attempt to delete it, there will be a prompt asking what to do with the transactions.  Select 
"Move to new account" (or similar verbiage), & then delete the account.

On 2020-04-29 15:03, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

On 4/29/20 1:37 PM, david whiting wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 21:31, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:

On 4/29/20 1:14 PM, david whiting wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 20:29, Maf. King  wrote:

Just a thought - if you change the account parent away from A/R can you then
change the type?

HTH,
Maf.


No, unfortunately moving the parent account doesn't allow me to change it.

David

I think you misunderstood, or I'm not understanding what you did.  It
sounds like you attempted to edit the parent account and change it's
type.  What we are suggesting is that you edit the leaf account and
change who it's parent is so that it shows up underneath a different
(non-A/R) account.


Yes, I misunderstood, however, I just tried that and still can't
change the type. See attached image showing that the account is now in
Assets:Members but other types are still not available.

David

That seems like a bug to me.


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Re: [GNC] Change account type by editing XML?

[Dean Gibson]

Create a new account in the desired location, & then delete the old 
account.  When you attempt to delete it, there will be a prompt asking 
what to do with the transactions.  Select "Move to new account" (or 
similar verbiage), & then delete the account.


On 2020-04-29 15:03, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

On 4/29/20 1:37 PM, david whiting wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 21:31, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:

On 4/29/20 1:14 PM, david whiting wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 20:29, Maf. King  wrote:

Just a thought - if you change the account parent away from A/R can you then
change the type?

HTH,
Maf.


No, unfortunately moving the parent account doesn't allow me to change it.

David

I think you misunderstood, or I'm not understanding what you did.  It
sounds like you attempted to edit the parent account and change it's
type.  What we are suggesting is that you edit the leaf account and
change who it's parent is so that it shows up underneath a different
(non-A/R) account.


Yes, I misunderstood, however, I just tried that and still can't
change the type. See attached image showing that the account is now in
Assets:Members but other types are still not available.

David

That seems like a bug to me.



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Re: [GNC] Looking to hire GnuCash Bookkeeper

[Dean Gibson]

LOCATION?

On 2019-08-19 18:23, Dave Crabill wrote:


... Where can I find someone with GnuCash experience to hire? ...

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Re: [GNC] Printer Problems

[Dean Gibson]

On 2019-01-27 06:45, David Carlson wrote:



I would suggest either setting up a virtual computer with a recent Linux
version such as Ubuntu 16.04 or 18.04, or acquiring an older machine from a
computer recycler and putting Linux on it for GnuCash as well as other
basic compu[t]er needs.


David C


I don't know if this will help anyone, but if anyone is running Windows 
10 x64, there is a new feature addition to Windows 10 called "Windows 
Subsystem for Linux" ("WSL") that you can enable, & then install (free) 
Linux distributions from the Microsoft Store: 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10


The install is absolutely trivial.  Ubuntu 16.04 & 18.04 distributions 
are available, but I've installed Debian, & run some fairly complex bash 
scripts without a problem.


That having been said, WSL is supported & primarily intended for running 
command-line programs, although some have been able to run a Linux GUI 
on it: 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/993225/whats-the-easiest-way-to-run-gui-apps-on-wsl-as-of-2018


All that having been said, I have no idea if WSL supports printing. I 
doubt it, but I thought I'd throw this out as a possible alternative to 
running a VM.  WSL is much more "lightweight" than a VM, but takes a LOT 
less resources.


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Re: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

[Dean Gibson]

On 2018-02-13 09:31, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

[prior message omitted]
There was a discussion about this on the HP/Agilent Yahoo group a week or
two ago. Someone mentioned that some other group he was a member of, anyone
that receives the digest was on 'permanent moderation' so if ever they
replied to a digest, it would be blocked. If they replied to a non-digest
message, the moderator would let it pass. This does not seem unreasonable
to me, because it inconveniences a lot of people to have a subject such as
the month of the digest, rather than something more specific.

Dave


Seems very reasonable, but for me personally, it doesn't matter:  I 
delete ALL messages (no matter what the forum) that have a subject of a 
"digest".


Aside from being thoughtless, self-centered, and clueless, replies to 
digests are INHERENTLY STUPID:  By the very nature of digests, they 
usually don't include the more recent messages on a topic.  As a result, 
any reply usually duplicates ideas (eg, solutions) in later messages 
(that weren't included in the digest).


My advice?  Disable digests, & explain to new users why the subject line 
is important if one gets a lot of eMail.


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Re: Enhancement Request for GNUcash

[Dean Gibson]

On 2017-12-05 09:16, Fred Bone wrote:

On 5 December 2017 at 8:46, Mike or Penny Novack said:


Most of us reading this are having more than a little difficulty
understanding for WHAT you are asking.




I have NO PROBLEM understanding what he is asking for, & you hit it on 
the head.


This group tries so hard to help people with zero sense in accounting.  
So, when a request comes by, that represents a fundamental departure 
from anything RESEMBLING sanity, it's hard to see the difference.  Not a 
complaint, just an observation.


I have saved the OP's message & will repost it next April 1:

On 2017-12-04 11:39, Jesse Cochran wrote:

To whom it may concern,
Given how limited and un-free our monetary system is nowadays, I think GNUcash 
would make a great tool for the following freedoms below:

0 > The Freedom to modify your starting and ending balance. This means you can 
take a @200 balance (yes, I'm using the @ symbol for example use), and turn it 
into @20 without the need to transfer anything.

1 > The Freedom to add and subtract from your ending balance like a calculator.

2 > The Freedom to send and receive money in any amount you choose.

3 > The Freedom to exchange this currency for other currency of any amount or 
size.

So I am generically requesting a feature that allows this to be implemented 
into GNUcash, just to exercise this right.

Thanks for understanding,

Jesse.

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Re: Interesting Discovery in my accounts -- more info...

[Dean Gibson]

The expense accounts were probably edited or posted to (eg, with an 
incorrect date) after you "closed" them.  The year-end closing process 
is quite simple and probably NOT at fault.


Yes, you can go back and close them with an old date.  Just make sure to 
delete the old closing transactions (one income, one expense) for that 
year before you do the new close.  I do this anytime I have to go back 
and correct a prior year transaction.



On 2017-12-02 14:32, Jay Ridgley wrote:

On 12/02/2017 04:01 PM, Jay Ridgley wrote:

Good Afternoon,
I just discovered that in 2014 a number of my expense accounts were 
not correctly closed (they had a balance other that ZERO)!


I have always closed my books at the end of an accounting period.

However, upon further investigation, it appears that the 2013 close 
book transaction was not correctly performed.


How that happened I have no idea. Most likely I did the close book for 
that year incorrectly and missed it. Is it recoverable? For instance 
can a close books be run with a date of 12/31/2013?


I do not want to start over with a new set of books but I may have to 
do so.


Questions that I have:

1. How did it happen?


See above


2. Has this happened to anyone else?
3. How do I correct the problem?

I can not go back and recreate 3 YEARS of data.

Ideas...

Regards,
Jay





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Re: GnuCash question

[Dean Gibson]

Exactly!  Since there are two periods in the version number, they cannot 
possibly be a decimal fraction indicator.  Each number (major version, 
minor version, & revision level) are separate whole numbers.


If one is using Windows 10, go to the "System" page & note the current 
Microsoft version: 10.16299.64.  Soon the revision level (typically 
every time an update forces a reboot) will be over 100, just like for 
earlier builds.  There is never a leading zero, because each number is a 
whole number, not a decimal fraction.


This is a standard industry way of denoting the major version, minor 
version, & revision level.



On 2017-11-21 18:56, George Riner wrote:

Interesting interpretation of what the period (or 'dot') symbol means as 
punctuation between the levels of revisions in the releases. It does not mean a 
decimal fraction part thereof. It is more representative of say an outline 
level, such as what Microsoft Word would produce if one had subheadings 
numbered 1 through 18 - the ones numbered 1 through 9 would not have a zero and 
I think most people would readily understand that 3 is less than 18.

2.6.18 means the 18th revision of the 6th version of release 2.

If the future versions of gnucash proceed up to "2.10", I don't think the 
developers should expected to go back and renumber 2.1 to 2.01; 2.2 to 2.02; etc.; Nor 
should they have been expected to start that numbering at the outset not knowing if they 
would even get to a 2.10 before getting to release 3.0

: George
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On November 21, 2017 5:59:54 PM PST, Alan Whiteman  
wrote:

I think the confusion is that .3 is generally accepted (here in the
U.S., anyway) as "0.30".

so .3 = .30

Perhaps the number method should be 2.6.03 instead of 2.6.3... For the
future, of course.

On 11/21/2017 11:14 AM, davel...@mac.com wrote:

Please keep replies on the list as it may help others.

Yes, 2.6.18 is newer. Each number between the periods is a separate

number and 18 is greater than 3.

In general, do not download the 2.7.x versions as those are beta

releases for the next version unless you are testing those with other
data (i.e., don't run a 2.7 with the only copy of your actual data
file).

Dave


On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Sean Perlmutter

 wrote:

Hi Dave,

Just requested access to the list. But looking for an answer

quickly. Saw your reply re the issue below and thought I’d contact you
directly. Hope that’s ok.

I’ve got the same issue: Just updated to High Sierra, now GnuCash

won’t open. And I can’t find Gnucash.app/contents/Resources/lib.

I see your workaround is to just update to the newest version of

GnuCash. Which I’m happy to do. But something is odd.

I have version 2.6.3, installed March 2014. And the GnuCash homepage

shows the most recent version as 2.6.18. The version number is lower!
Am I missing something? Is that more recent than 2.6.3?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Sean




On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Peter Schoonmaker 
at gmail.com

wrote:
   


   Hello,

   


   I’ve used Gnucash for several years and I love it. But, I’m a

complete novice about the technical side of Gnucash and I need very
basic help. I understand that the following is a fix or work around my
recent problem:
   


   copy /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib to Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib

   


   However, I don’t know what the above line means nor how to

implement it. In other words, how do I copy /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib to
Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib?
   


   I’m embarrassed to admit my lack of knowledge, but I would need a

step by step description in order to fix this problem on my MacBook
Pro.
   


   I don’t even know the version of Gnucash that I’m running. I don’t

want to lose my data from the last few years. Is it safe to try to
reinstall Gnucash with the latest version?
   


   I’ve thought about moving my Gnucash data from my current computer

to another Mac that’s running an older operating system than High
Sierra, but I don’t even know how to begin to do that.
   


   Thanks, in advance, for any assistance you can give me. I’ve

copied this message to my regular email address so I won’t miss any
replies. Thanks again.
   


   Peter



That fix is only needed if you're running an old version. The easier

solution is to download the latest gnucash for Mac which no longer
requires that fix.

Copying it to another computer requires knowledge of where the data

file you are using is stored. If your only goal is to get gnucash
running again, just install the latest version on the High Sierra
computer. If you still want to move it to another computer, we'll need
to figure out where your data file is installed. I'm not at a computer
with gnucash installed right now so I can't check how to tell that.

HTH,
Dave


   

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Re: Reconciling an account

[Dean Gibson]

I misspoke.  I meant the ending date.  When I change the ending date to 
match the statement, that gives me the corresponding ending balance, 
every time, so I don't have to adjust it (assuming I've downloaded all 
the bank/CC transactions).


My only "complaint" with the GnuCash reconciliation process, is that if 
there is a debit balance in a liability reconciliation, I don't get the 
additional window at the end of the reconciliation, which allows me to 
transfer the balance to another account.  I have to generate that 
transaction manually (a very tiny amount of extra work).


On 2017-06-05 12:10, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi Dean,

On Mon, June 5, 2017 2:52 pm, Dean Gibson wrote:

Make sure that the reconciliation "beginning date" is the same as that on your 
statement.  A different date will create a different beginning balance.


This is not correct.  You cannot change the beginning date.  That date is the 
"closing" date from your last reconcile.  GnuCash tries to figure out the 
correct closing date based on the last two reconciles.  The EXACT date only affects 
GnuCash's proposed ending balance, and will affect the next suggested closing date.  It 
has very little other meaning.

So yes, you should correct the ending date, and verify the starting date. But 
if the starting date is wrong there's nothing you can do about it.


In any case, don't change the balance manually, unless you have a good 
reason to.


This is ABSOLUTELY wrong.  You should ABSOLUTELY change the ending balance to 
match the correct balance from your statement!  You may have entries in your 
books that didn't clear (e.g. a check that hasn't been deposited yet) that will 
affect your balance but wont be on the statement.

So sorry, you should absolutely change the ending balance in the reconcile 
dialog to be the correct balance from your statement.  Then when you check off 
the items you'll ensure your books and the bank books are in sync.

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Re: Reconciling an account

[Dean Gibson]

Make sure that the reconciliation "beginning date" is the same as that 
on your statement.  A different date will create a different beginning 
balance.  In any case, don't change the balance manually, unless you 
have a good reason to.


On 2017-06-05 10:10, EngineInstitute wrote:

John,

What baffles me is that I am balancing a credit card statement with little
activity. It was reconciled correctly the prior month, so the starting
balance for the following month is correct.



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