Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion
I wouldn't be in favor of a blinking tab. And if it were implemented, I'd for sure want to turn it off. But there might be some other effective method. Other than what was described in the bug report about directing you back to the uncommitted transaction explicitly, I can't see a path to guard against a non-graceful shutdown. (aka 'crash') Regards, Adrien On 12/1/23 1:07 PM, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote: I guess it never got implemented as a blinking tab or such. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion
I had sql once but you moved me to xml. Is there an easy way to go back to SQL? sql saves uncommitted transactions? It seems simple enough to have attributes in XML to hold the uncommitted information beside the original information, so you can always save the entire state of the application. But even without that, having a strong indication on the tab that has pending changes would be much more ergonomic and prevent data loss. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 04:49:00 PM EST, Glenn Fowler wrote: I'm assuming you are using XML. In that case the "Save" button does appear from being greyed out and you are indicated on close. Of course this is global and not individual indications that you would like. The SQL database will save as you go. I'm in the other camp where I *don't* want to auto-save. This has saved me numerous times where I make a big mistake and it's a simple close without saving and reopening which is a littler easier and quicker than opening a previous backup and renaming files. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:51 PM David Carlson wrote: Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which was reported 13 years ago? On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler wrote: Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format? On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified > transactions. It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included > such, so I can commit it before wandering off. If the system is rebooted > or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications are > lost, even with timed save configured. > > Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you > reopen gnucash, you can approve it. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion
I guess it never got implemented as a blinking tab or such. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 02:52:08 PM EST, David Carlson wrote: Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which was reported 13 years ago? On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler wrote: Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format? On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified > transactions. It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included > such, so I can commit it before wandering off. If the system is rebooted > or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications are > lost, even with timed save configured. > > Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you > reopen gnucash, you can approve it. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion
I could be mistaken, but I don't think uncommitted transactions are written using the SQL backends. An edit perhaps, but not a new transaction. Note, the OP is referencing a crash, or leaving GnuCash open, forgetting about a pending edit to be committed, and restarting the computer. I think in the latter case, GnuCash will prompt to confirm the 'graceful' shutdown initiated by the OS. A hard reset or power down though would not. However, in such cases, I expect to lose unsaved data anyway, no matter what app I'm using. Regards, Adrien On 11/30/23 3:48 PM, Glenn Fowler wrote: I'm assuming you are using XML. In that case the "Save" button does appear from being greyed out and you are indicated on close. Of course this is global and not individual indications that you would like. The SQL database will save as you go. I'm in the other camp where I *don't* want to auto-save. This has saved me numerous times where I make a big mistake and it's a simple close without saving and reopening which is a littler easier and quicker than opening a previous backup and renaming files. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion
I'm assuming you are using XML. In that case the "Save" button does appear from being greyed out and you are indicated on close. Of course this is global and not individual indications that you would like. The SQL database will save as you go. I'm in the other camp where I *don't* want to auto-save. This has saved me numerous times where I make a big mistake and it's a simple close without saving and reopening which is a littler easier and quicker than opening a previous backup and renaming files. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:51 PM David Carlson wrote: > Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which > was reported 13 years ago? > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler > wrote: > >> Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format? >> >> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user < >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: >> >> > One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified >> > transactions. It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included >> > such, so I can commit it before wandering off. If the system is >> rebooted >> > or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications >> are >> > lost, even with timed save configured. >> > >> > Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you >> > reopen gnucash, you can approve it. >> > ___ >> > gnucash-user mailing list >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > - >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > David Carlson > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion
Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which was reported 13 years ago? On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler wrote: > Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format? > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user < > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified > > transactions. It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included > > such, so I can commit it before wandering off. If the system is rebooted > > or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications > are > > lost, even with timed save configured. > > > > Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you > > reopen gnucash, you can approve it. > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion
Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format? On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified > transactions. It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included > such, so I can commit it before wandering off. If the system is rebooted > or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications are > lost, even with timed save configured. > > Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you > reopen gnucash, you can approve it. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Enhancement suggestion
One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified transactions. It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included such, so I can commit it before wandering off. If the system is rebooted or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications are lost, even with timed save configured. Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you reopen gnucash, you can approve it. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.