Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-12-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I wouldn't be in favor of a blinking tab. And if it were implemented, 
I'd for sure want to turn it off. But there might be some other 
effective method.


Other than what was described in the bug report about directing you back 
to the uncommitted transaction explicitly, I can't see a path to guard 
against a non-graceful shutdown. (aka 'crash')


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/1/23 1:07 PM, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:

  I guess it never got implemented as a blinking tab or such.


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Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-12-01 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
 I had sql once but you moved me to xml.  Is there an easy way to go back to 
SQL?

sql saves uncommitted transactions?

It seems simple enough to have attributes in XML to hold the uncommitted 
information beside the original information, so you can always save the entire 
state of the application.

But even without that, having a strong indication on the tab that has pending 
changes would be much more ergonomic and prevent data loss.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 04:49:00 PM EST, Glenn Fowler 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm assuming you are using XML. In that case the "Save" button does appear 
from being greyed out and you are indicated on close. Of course this is global 
and not individual indications that you would like.
The SQL database will save as you go.
I'm in the other camp where I *don't* want to auto-save. This has saved me 
numerous times where I make a big mistake and it's a simple close without 
saving and reopening which is a littler easier and quicker than opening a 
previous backup and renaming files.

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:51 PM David Carlson  
wrote:

Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which was 
reported 13 years ago?

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler  wrote:

Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format?

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified
> transactions.  It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included
> such, so I can commit it before wandering off.  If the system is rebooted
> or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications are
> lost, even with timed save configured.
>
> Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you
> reopen gnucash, you can approve it.
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-12-01 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
 I guess it never got implemented as a blinking tab or such.
On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 02:52:08 PM EST, David Carlson 
 wrote:  
 
 Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which was 
reported 13 years ago?

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler  wrote:

Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format?

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified
> transactions.  It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included
> such, so I can commit it before wandering off.  If the system is rebooted
> or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications are
> lost, even with timed save configured.
>
> Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you
> reopen gnucash, you can approve it.
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-11-30 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I could be mistaken, but I don't think uncommitted transactions are 
written using the SQL backends. An edit perhaps, but not a new transaction.


Note, the OP is referencing a crash, or leaving GnuCash open, forgetting 
about a pending edit to be committed, and restarting the computer. I 
think in the latter case, GnuCash will prompt to confirm the 'graceful' 
shutdown initiated by the OS. A hard reset or power down though would not.


However, in such cases, I expect to lose unsaved data anyway, no matter 
what app I'm using.


Regards,
Adrien

On 11/30/23 3:48 PM, Glenn Fowler wrote:

I'm assuming you are using XML. In that case the "Save" button does appear
from being greyed out and you are indicated on close. Of course this is
global and not individual indications that you would like.

The SQL database will save as you go.

I'm in the other camp where I *don't* want to auto-save. This has saved me
numerous times where I make a big mistake and it's a simple close without
saving and reopening which is a littler easier and quicker than opening a
previous backup and renaming files.


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Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-11-30 Thread Glenn Fowler
I'm assuming you are using XML. In that case the "Save" button does appear
from being greyed out and you are indicated on close. Of course this is
global and not individual indications that you would like.

The SQL database will save as you go.

I'm in the other camp where I *don't* want to auto-save. This has saved me
numerous times where I make a big mistake and it's a simple close without
saving and reopening which is a littler easier and quicker than opening a
previous backup and renaming files.

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:51 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which
> was reported 13 years ago?
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>
>> > One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified
>> > transactions.  It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included
>> > such, so I can commit it before wandering off.  If the system is
>> rebooted
>> > or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications
>> are
>> > lost, even with timed save configured.
>> >
>> > Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you
>> > reopen gnucash, you can approve it.
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-11-30 Thread David Carlson
Have you looked at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686051, which
was reported 13 years ago?

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM Glenn Fowler  wrote:

> Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format?
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> > One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified
> > transactions.  It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included
> > such, so I can commit it before wandering off.  If the system is rebooted
> > or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications
> are
> > lost, even with timed save configured.
> >
> > Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you
> > reopen gnucash, you can approve it.
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-11-30 Thread Glenn Fowler
Hi that is expected behavior with xml, have you tried the database format?

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 1:05 PM David G. Pickett via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified
> transactions.  It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included
> such, so I can commit it before wandering off.  If the system is rebooted
> or gnucash is killed for batch stock price updates, these modifications are
> lost, even with timed save configured.
>
> Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you
> reopen gnucash, you can approve it.
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[GNC] Enhancement suggestion

2023-11-30 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
One problem with gnucash is inadvertently uncommitted modified transactions.  
It's be nice if the tab lit up if that account included such, so I can commit 
it before wandering off.  If the system is rebooted or gnucash is killed for 
batch stock price updates, these modifications are lost, even with timed save 
configured.

Alternately, find a way to save the modified transaction so when you reopen 
gnucash, you can approve it.
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