Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-28 Thread Adrien Monteleone

And there is the option to review them in their own register.

Also, there *is* a 'Value' column in the SLR dialog, but I think it is 
for variables, not certain.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/28/23 1:57 PM, Fred Bone wrote:

On 28 January 2023 at 9:55, Kalpesh Patel said:


Not able to see the  amount or the account name in the reminder pop for
the scheduled transaction is a huge bummer for me as well.



I have multiple scheduled transactions to the same institutions on the
same date for different assets and I have to make a note of it in each
transaction's name to discern them differently so they stay sane.


I rather thought that was the whole point of letting you "name" a SX: so
that you can tell one from another.


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-28 Thread Fred Bone
On 28 January 2023 at 9:55, Kalpesh Patel said:

> Not able to see the  amount or the account name in the reminder pop for
> the scheduled transaction is a huge bummer for me as well. 
> 
> 
> 
> I have multiple scheduled transactions to the same institutions on the
> same date for different assets and I have to make a note of it in each
> transaction's name to discern them differently so they stay sane.  

I rather thought that was the whole point of letting you "name" a SX: so 
that you can tell one from another.

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-28 Thread Kalpesh Patel
Not able to see the  amount or the account name in the reminder pop for the
scheduled transaction is a huge bummer for me as well. 

 

I have multiple scheduled transactions to the same institutions on the same
date for different assets and I have to make a note of it in each
transaction's name to discern them differently so they stay sane.  

 

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:08:49 -0500

From: jhoe...@googlemail.com <mailto:jhoe...@googlemail.com> 

To: "'john'" mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us> >

Cc: mailto:gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org>
>

Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

Message-ID: <146e01d9328b$2bdc6f90$83954eb0$@gmail.com
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Hi John:

 

Thanks for the quick response!

 

I don't need a future exchange rate for my scheduled posting, any exchange
rate will do. So I experimented a little more and it turns out that I CAN
schedule a payment from a non-USD (the primary currency) account after all.

Only when I use the checkbox "create automatically", I always get an error

message: "Scheduled transactions with variables or involving more than one
commodity cannot automatically be created." That now makes sense to me as
GnuCash probably expects me to specify a current exchange rate at the time
of posting. As long as I get a reminder, that's fine. 

 

Pity that there is no summary report of scheduled transactions. There'd be
plenty of room to add a few more columns (like value, and possibly even the
involved accounts) in the Scheduled Transactions Overview screen. I don't
know how difficult that is, of course, and how many other users would be
interested in that.

 

Thanks again, Jan

 

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From: john mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us> >

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 12:21 PM

To: jhoe...@googlemail.com <mailto:jhoe...@googlemail.com> 

Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org> 

Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

 

 

 

> On Jan 27, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Jan via gnucash-user

mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> > wrote:

> 

> Hi guys:

> 

> 

> 

> I'm still relatively new to GnuCash (after decades of extensive 

> Quicken

> usage) and want to make sure that what two things I couldn't do with 

> GnuCash really can't be done:

> 

> 

> 

> 1. No option to schedule future transaction if an exchange rate is

> involved - workaround manual transaction (detriment: effort and chance 

> to

> forget)

> 2. No option to see the value of scheduled transactions in one
list or

> report - workaround is clicking into every transaction and then the 

> template tab (detriment: effort and less overview)

 

If you mean in number 1 that there's no way to specify a future exchange

rate, that's correct. A multi-commodity scheduled transaction will require

you to enter the exchange rate in the Since Last Run dialog.

 

There is indeed no summary report of scheduled transactions.

 

Regards,

John Ralls

 

 

 

 

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-27 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
It seems to me that the OP is running up against the fact that GnuCash has 
always been focused on Real, rather than Potential, transactions, since it 
follows a more strict accounting perspective. Users encounter this with 
Scheduled transactions; they encounter it with budgets; they encounter it with 
unrealized gains. Each of these arises in the lists with regularity. 

Since OP mentioned that having a reasonable estimated exchange rate would 
suffice in their situation, BOTH of their asks could be addressed by setting 
the scheduled transactions to create far into the future. The transactions 
would then be real entries in the books, and all the usual reports could be 
used to determine future amounts. 

And yes, there are pitfalls with creating real transactions in the books that 
may not actually get created, but that's a tradeoff. 

David T. 



On Jan 28, 2023, 8:06 AM, at 8:06 AM, David Carlson 
 wrote:
>Would it be possible to rework the Future Scheduled Transactions
>Summary
>report to display the scheduled transactions?
>
>On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 4:15 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
>stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> > If you mean in number 1 that there's no way to specify a future
>exchange
>> rate, that's correct.
>>
>> ROFL
>>
>> If it were possible for gnucash to CORRECTLY predict what exchange
>rates
>> will be at some future date then I wouldn't be using it just to
>automate
>> my bookkeeping. I'd be using it to make a LOT of money..
>>
>> Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-27 Thread David Carlson
Would it be possible to rework the Future Scheduled Transactions Summary
report to display the scheduled transactions?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 4:15 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> > If you mean in number 1 that there's no way to specify a future exchange
> rate, that's correct.
>
> ROFL
>
> If it were possible for gnucash to CORRECTLY predict what exchange rates
> will be at some future date then I wouldn't be using it just to automate
> my bookkeeping. I'd be using it to make a LOT of money..
>
> Michael D Novack
>
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-27 Thread Michael or Penny Novack




If you mean in number 1 that there's no way to specify a future exchange rate, 
that's correct.


ROFL

If it were possible for gnucash to CORRECTLY predict what exchange rates 
will be at some future date then I wouldn't be using it just to automate 
my bookkeeping. I'd be using it to make a LOT of money..


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-27 Thread Jan via gnucash-user
Hi John:

Thanks for the quick response!

I don't need a future exchange rate for my scheduled posting, any exchange
rate will do. So I experimented a little more and it turns out that I CAN
schedule a payment from a non-USD (the primary currency) account after all.
Only when I use the checkbox "create automatically", I always get an error
message: "Scheduled transactions with variables or involving more than one
commodity cannot automatically be created." That now makes sense to me as
GnuCash probably expects me to specify a current exchange rate at the time
of posting. As long as I get a reminder, that's fine. 

Pity that there is no summary report of scheduled transactions. There'd be
plenty of room to add a few more columns (like value, and possibly even the
involved accounts) in the Scheduled Transactions Overview screen. I don't
know how difficult that is, of course, and how many other users would be
interested in that.

Thanks again, Jan

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From: john  
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 12:21 PM
To: jhoe...@googlemail.com
Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do



> On Jan 27, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Jan via gnucash-user
 wrote:
> 
> Hi guys:
> 
> 
> 
> I'm still relatively new to GnuCash (after decades of extensive 
> Quicken
> usage) and want to make sure that what two things I couldn't do with 
> GnuCash really can't be done:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.No option to schedule future transaction if an exchange rate is
> involved - workaround manual transaction (detriment: effort and chance 
> to
> forget)
> 2.No option to see the value of scheduled transactions in one list or
> report - workaround is clicking into every transaction and then the 
> template tab (detriment: effort and less overview)

If you mean in number 1 that there's no way to specify a future exchange
rate, that's correct. A multi-commodity scheduled transaction will require
you to enter the exchange rate in the Since Last Run dialog.

There is indeed no summary report of scheduled transactions.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-27 Thread Stephen
For some things I can't get Gnucash to do I just export transactions to 
CSV and then use Excel (and Power Query if needed) to get info in form I 
want it to be. I don't know whether scheduled items can be exported or 
not because I haven't set up any (I know what it is about, I just don't 
need to do it since payments usually are variable in amounts and/or are 
part of an import to checking or savings).


On 1/27/2023 11:20 AM, john wrote:



On Jan 27, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Jan via gnucash-user  
wrote:

Hi guys:



I'm still relatively new to GnuCash (after decades of extensive Quicken
usage) and want to make sure that what two things I couldn't do with GnuCash
really can't be done:



1.  No option to schedule future transaction if an exchange rate is
involved - workaround manual transaction (detriment: effort and chance to
forget)
2.  No option to see the value of scheduled transactions in one list or
report - workaround is clicking into every transaction and then the template
tab (detriment: effort and less overview)

If you mean in number 1 that there's no way to specify a future exchange rate, 
that's correct. A multi-commodity scheduled transaction will require you to 
enter the exchange rate in the Since Last Run dialog.

There is indeed no summary report of scheduled transactions.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-27 Thread john



> On Jan 27, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Jan via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys:
> 
> 
> 
> I'm still relatively new to GnuCash (after decades of extensive Quicken
> usage) and want to make sure that what two things I couldn't do with GnuCash
> really can't be done:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.No option to schedule future transaction if an exchange rate is
> involved - workaround manual transaction (detriment: effort and chance to
> forget)
> 2.No option to see the value of scheduled transactions in one list or
> report - workaround is clicking into every transaction and then the template
> tab (detriment: effort and less overview)

If you mean in number 1 that there's no way to specify a future exchange rate, 
that's correct. A multi-commodity scheduled transaction will require you to 
enter the exchange rate in the Since Last Run dialog.

There is indeed no summary report of scheduled transactions.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] GnuCash: What scheduled transactions can't do

2023-01-27 Thread Jan via gnucash-user
Hi guys:

 

I'm still relatively new to GnuCash (after decades of extensive Quicken
usage) and want to make sure that what two things I couldn't do with GnuCash
really can't be done:

 

1.  No option to schedule future transaction if an exchange rate is
involved - workaround manual transaction (detriment: effort and chance to
forget)
2.  No option to see the value of scheduled transactions in one list or
report - workaround is clicking into every transaction and then the template
tab (detriment: effort and less overview)

 

Thanks for any suggestions, Jan

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