Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
On 2023-08-31 08:38, David Carlson wrote: > Back in the day when I used Windows fairly regularly and before Windows 7 > (i.e. Windows XP or Vista or even earlier days) when it may have been > installed into a 32 bit computer, it was fairly common to see Windows using > special foreshortened names to fit into the 32 bit file system without > requiring the double quotes that many of us regularly failed to use > correctly. I think 'Administrato' is an artifact from those days > ... I think that's highly unlikely. Short filenames were a max of 8 characters, possibly followed by _a_dot_ and 1-3 characters. There's no dot in "Administrato", and it's longer than 8 characters. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com/ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Back in the day when I used Windows fairly regularly and before Windows 7 (i.e. Windows XP or Vista or even earlier days) when it may have been installed into a 32 bit computer, it was fairly common to see Windows using special foreshortened names to fit into the 32 bit file system without requiring the double quotes that many of us regularly failed to use correctly. I think 'Administrato' is an artifact from those days, and I think the OP's system may have originated in that era. That does not change how Windows 10 or 11 processes user rights. At least now it is easier to just operate as an ordinary user and only run programs 'as administrator' when required. It is also easier today for ordinary users to understand how to play the 'rights' game to complete a task, once they know when it is needed. There are a few of us 'Old Fogeys' that used to have 32 bit computers who did not structure our file systems with clearly defined user folders and some of us even thought it was ok to put user files in Windows folders or even just in the 'C' drive where they were 'easy to find'. We don't know where the OP lives. Maybe he is in Idalia's danger zone. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 5:15 AM Maf. King wrote: > I also note, and it may be a typo by Barry, but the user often being > called > the "Administrator" account by some people on the list has been listed in > a > file path by Barry more than once as "administrato" > > What I'm saying is that there is no certainty that one account is or is > not a > "root" operator with whatever extra rights or not. > I noted that, too, but on some Windows computers, there is a secret hidden account called "Administrator", so when I needed to create an admin-level account, I have to call it something else (Admin or System works for me), so I thought that perhaps he called his "administrato" to get around this problem. Or maybe it was a typo. _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Barry, In this message you state that ' administrato' is the good name to use but you do not say whether that is the username that you log into your computer with from a cold start or whether you are still logged in as administrato when you start Gnucash. When you start Gnucash do you get a warning that the file is read only? Is that the name of the user that has administrator access? Also have you checked the properties of that user to see if you read and write privileges as that user and in folders belonging to that user? On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:57 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > Thank you Adrien for a) being so patient, and b) reacting properly to > the unnecessary comments. > > Somewhere, way back, it is my impression that the requirement for > attaching to posts had to be in jpg format, is that the case, or will a > vanilla screen scrape do?? From this message that would appear to be the > case. Also, I am not certain how much of a scrape you need, I have > screenfulls. > > I aplogise for the confusion between adminstratO and adminstrator. As a > result of various ministrations to this PC when I first got it, a while > back, several names were applied, barry mahon, finbar mahon, > administration, and administrato, The latter one if 'good' > > As to attach, maybe it my misunderstanding. I have a screen in a file > in 'This PC' with a list of files from gnu. If I do 'attach' (top RHS) > it appears, but if I then click Add Attachment the files screen 'blinks' > and if I click 'send' it asks 'did you forget an attachment' If I do > PrtSc (or windows icon and PrtSc, depending on the advice received!!) > the same things happens 'did you forget' > > I have answered 'no, send now' to send this, sorry, further confusion. > > Barry ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Barry, A file attached to an email can be of any type -there is generally no requirement on the type of file to attach. Whether the recipient can then open it depends on the software they are using. Most of the common image formats (.jpg, .gif, .tif, .png etc) which are compressed bitmap images can be opened by most image display programs - less so in the case of vector drawing formats. The information we need to help you is mainly going to be in the form of screen window captures from File Explorer (or command like DIR with specific options from the command line interface to display the ownership and permissions information. You can either capture an image of the window on the screen or if using the command line window direct the ouput of the command line to a text file. In all cases first you need to create the image or text file on your hard disk and then you need to attach the file you create to an email reply. You can also find plenty of help on-line for Windows specific operations using Google. But doing that successfully usually means including a few specific keywords in the search term the most important of which will be "Windows" likely "file" and then a descriptor of the information you are trying to find to limit the replies to something useful. In some cases it may appear that we are trying to teach you to suck eggs but we have only limited information about your familiarity with the Windows operating system and what you know or don't know. The impression most of us get from your replies is that you are a relatively new user of Windows with not a lot of background on how operating systems work in general and how Windows works in detail. On the other hand we who are replying also often have widely different and overlapping skill sets and individually use GnuCash on one or more of the three major PC operating systems and sub-variants in the case of Linux users. Some of us are or have been software developers. Our aim is to get to a common understanding which will enable us to help you sort your problem. You may find the profusion of answers coming from different directions a little confusing but often it is the variety of perspectives that is the main advantage of a mailing list. David Cousens On Mon, 2023-08-28 at 17:53 +0200, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: > Thank you Adrien for a) being so patient, and b) reacting properly to > the unnecessary comments. > > Somewhere, way back, it is my impression that the requirement for > attaching to posts had to be in jpg format, is that the case, or will a > vanilla screen scrape do?? From this message that would appear to be the > case. Also, I am not certain how much of a scrape you need, I have > screenfulls. > > I aplogise for the confusion between adminstratO and adminstrator. As a > result of various ministrations to this PC when I first got it, a while > back, several names were applied, barry mahon, finbar mahon, > administration, and administrato, The latter one if 'good' > > As to attach, maybe it my misunderstanding. I have a screen in a file > in 'This PC' with a list of files from gnu. If I do 'attach' (top RHS) > it appears, but if I then click Add Attachment the files screen 'blinks' > and if I click 'send' it asks 'did you forget an attachment' If I do > PrtSc (or windows icon and PrtSc, depending on the advice received!!) > the same things happens 'did you forget' > > I have answered 'no, send now' to send this, sorry, further confusion. > > Barry > > > On 28/08/2023 12:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > That's mostly my fault on the 'administrato' vs. 'administator' issue. > > > > But I only kept typing that because Barry reported a file path at one > > point with that spelling, and I wasn't certain of a possible different > > language in use, so I didn't correct it. If Barry transcribed the file > > path instead of copy/pasting it, that would explain the spelling. > > > > As for permissions, I'm not even concerned about root/admin vs. not > > but simply one user trying to save into another's file tree. That > > alone would most likely return a permissions error message. It seems > > Barry is logging in regularly under an account with that name, but > > GnuCash is opening a file stored under another user. (at some point > > that had to be done manually via File > Open, or since this is > > Windows, perhaps navigating to that other user and double-clicking the > > file - still manual and intentional) > > > > Why the file is there instead of the regular user account, I don't know. > > > > But I see the solution as moving it to the regular user account, > > fixing the file ownership and permission flags, and then proceeding to > > clean up the multiple file/backup file apparent mess. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 8/28/23 4:14 AM, Maf. King wrote: > > > I also note, and it may be a typo by Barry, but the user often being > > > called > > > the "Administrator" account by
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
On 2023-08-28 08:05, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: > With regards to Nigel's comment, over the past month and a half, > there have been well over a hundred messages sprinkled across > eight different threads that seek to address the situation. At > some point, it would seem that the problems cannot be solved > through this venue. For me, that was about 40-50 messages ago. I believe I missed Nigel's comment, but I agree with all that David T. said. And sprinkling messages across multiple threads, one of them the generic "GnuCash", just makes things worse. Those of us with nothing to contribute (unless we want to duplicate what others have said, which would be unhelpful) can't even filter out this mess. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com/ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Thank you Adrien for a) being so patient, and b) reacting properly to the unnecessary comments. Somewhere, way back, it is my impression that the requirement for attaching to posts had to be in jpg format, is that the case, or will a vanilla screen scrape do?? From this message that would appear to be the case. Also, I am not certain how much of a scrape you need, I have screenfulls. I aplogise for the confusion between adminstratO and adminstrator. As a result of various ministrations to this PC when I first got it, a while back, several names were applied, barry mahon, finbar mahon, administration, and administrato, The latter one if 'good' As to attach, maybe it my misunderstanding. I have a screen in a file in 'This PC' with a list of files from gnu. If I do 'attach' (top RHS) it appears, but if I then click Add Attachment the files screen 'blinks' and if I click 'send' it asks 'did you forget an attachment' If I do PrtSc (or windows icon and PrtSc, depending on the advice received!!) the same things happens 'did you forget' I have answered 'no, send now' to send this, sorry, further confusion. Barry On 28/08/2023 12:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote: That's mostly my fault on the 'administrato' vs. 'administator' issue. But I only kept typing that because Barry reported a file path at one point with that spelling, and I wasn't certain of a possible different language in use, so I didn't correct it. If Barry transcribed the file path instead of copy/pasting it, that would explain the spelling. As for permissions, I'm not even concerned about root/admin vs. not but simply one user trying to save into another's file tree. That alone would most likely return a permissions error message. It seems Barry is logging in regularly under an account with that name, but GnuCash is opening a file stored under another user. (at some point that had to be done manually via File > Open, or since this is Windows, perhaps navigating to that other user and double-clicking the file - still manual and intentional) Why the file is there instead of the regular user account, I don't know. But I see the solution as moving it to the regular user account, fixing the file ownership and permission flags, and then proceeding to clean up the multiple file/backup file apparent mess. Regards, Adrien On 8/28/23 4:14 AM, Maf. King wrote: I also note, and it may be a typo by Barry, but the user often being called the "Administrator" account by some people on the list has been listed in a file path by Barry more than once as "administrato" What I'm saying is that there is no certainty that one account is or is not a "root" operator with whatever extra rights or not. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Maf, With regards to Nigel's comment, over the past month and a half, there have been well over a hundred messages sprinkled across eight different threads that seek to address the situation. At some point, it would seem that the problems cannot be solved through this venue. For me, that was about 40-50 messages ago. David T. On Aug 28, 2023, 2:02 PM, at 2:02 PM, "Maf. King" wrote: >On Monday, 28 August 2023 11:44:54 BST Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> But I see the solution as moving it to the regular user account, >fixing >> the file ownership and permission flags, and then proceeding to clean >up >> the multiple file/backup file apparent mess. > > >+1. > >get everything RW and into a folder in the "Barry" tree. find the >most >recently changed file(s) and go from there (in a new folder) with the >save >issue. then Barry will have to clean up the inevitable missing txns >that >were made in backup files only. > >@Nigel Stapley. ISTR the user Mahon Finbar has been on the list for >years, >only occasionally having problems which I think have been solved in the >past >quite swiflty or easliy (or not). I think he is having genuine >problems >just now. However, I agree that the problems as presented seem >somewhat wider >than just GC. > >Maf. > > > > >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
On Monday, 28 August 2023 11:44:54 BST Adrien Monteleone wrote: > But I see the solution as moving it to the regular user account, fixing > the file ownership and permission flags, and then proceeding to clean up > the multiple file/backup file apparent mess. +1. get everything RW and into a folder in the "Barry" tree. find the most recently changed file(s) and go from there (in a new folder) with the save issue. then Barry will have to clean up the inevitable missing txns that were made in backup files only. @Nigel Stapley. ISTR the user Mahon Finbar has been on the list for years, only occasionally having problems which I think have been solved in the past quite swiflty or easliy (or not). I think he is having genuine problems just now. However, I agree that the problems as presented seem somewhat wider than just GC. Maf. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
That's mostly my fault on the 'administrato' vs. 'administator' issue. But I only kept typing that because Barry reported a file path at one point with that spelling, and I wasn't certain of a possible different language in use, so I didn't correct it. If Barry transcribed the file path instead of copy/pasting it, that would explain the spelling. As for permissions, I'm not even concerned about root/admin vs. not but simply one user trying to save into another's file tree. That alone would most likely return a permissions error message. It seems Barry is logging in regularly under an account with that name, but GnuCash is opening a file stored under another user. (at some point that had to be done manually via File > Open, or since this is Windows, perhaps navigating to that other user and double-clicking the file - still manual and intentional) Why the file is there instead of the regular user account, I don't know. But I see the solution as moving it to the regular user account, fixing the file ownership and permission flags, and then proceeding to clean up the multiple file/backup file apparent mess. Regards, Adrien On 8/28/23 4:14 AM, Maf. King wrote: I also note, and it may be a typo by Barry, but the user often being called the "Administrator" account by some people on the list has been listed in a file path by Barry more than once as "administrato" What I'm saying is that there is no certainty that one account is or is not a "root" operator with whatever extra rights or not. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
On Monday, 28 August 2023 00:14:09 BST Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > > > No one ever requested this, I even said in a prior post to Barry specifically *never* to send his "production" GC file(s) to the list. I also note, and it may be a typo by Barry, but the user often being called the "Administrator" account by some people on the list has been listed in a file path by Barry more than once as "administrato" What I'm saying is that there is no certainty that one account is or is not a "root" operator with whatever extra rights or not. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Barry, On 8/27/23 12:49 PM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: OK,I have an app called CaptureWiz but it doesn't save as gps "gps" as a file format was never requested. I don't know why you think it was. Why did you even comment on this fact, who told you that was the necessary format? (where did you get that idea?) Note, you *do not* need a screenshot app, though some of them do offer extra abilities. At a very basic level, Windows OS has supported the PrtSc key on your keyboard for 30+years. If you hit that key, a screenshot of your current viewport will be saved somewhere. In the past it was a BMP format to the clipboard, but I've heard modern versions save a PNG to a folder. You NEED to do a tad bit of homework to learn how this works. Of course, if you already know how to use CaptureWiz, that is fine. I'm sure its formats are compatible with this list. -- Here goes with an attachment - recent files in tax accounts and returns, as I said, not used as gnucash data from loading, recently, but seem to have recently saved files. Further mystery. Not a mystery. You clearly are not paying attention to where you are saving your files or where you are accessing them from. (once you told us it was 'tax accounts and returns' under the 'Barry Mahon' user and other times you told us it was under the 'Documents' under the 'admistrato' user) We can help you to a point, but the end result relies on you. You absolutely *must* get it straight in your mind where your files are stored. We can help you sort that out, especially now that you've figured out attachments. I have REPEATEDLY stated not to try to send your actual files to us. Those won't do any/much good. Yet, that is what you just did. And in this case, you sent a log file, which is effectively useless to us. (you also sent everyone on this list an actual copy of your GnuCash file — 2 of them in fact — that is all of your personal financial activity! No one ever requested this, I still don't know why you keep insisting you need to send it. It does us no good with regards to trying to help you.) I'll congratulate you that you did in fact this time manage to send an attachment, even if it wasn't what was requested. Now you know how to do it properly. - My question now is can I and how do I move over to adminstrato? NO! NO! NO! Do *not* move them over to the user 'adminstrato'! You need to take the files that are stored in the 'adminsistrato' tree and move them to the 'Barry Mahon' user — opposite of what you are thinking. And I have no idea why you'd think otherwise. No one has suggested what you are referencing. (that I recall) The attached files have no 'save' icon live, so, if I enter some data will I have the same issue with saving? and what can be done? They are in calendar terms quite recent so I would like to continue from where I "left off" if possible. What in the world are you talking about? No, log files (I didn't know you could open them with GnuCash) are unlikely to show an active 'save' icon. Why would you remotely think so? They are LOG files. They 'log' activity (and maybe) errors with activity. (I think errors go to the Tracefile, but that is another topic) And if you tried to 'save' the attached 'gnucash' files and they didn't save, or were greyed out, that makes sense if you were logged in as 'Barry Mahon' but these files were 'owned' by 'administrato'. STOP trying to open files and save them. STOP. If that is what you keep doing, you are seriously making a MESS. I advised you weeks ago to slow down. I repeat that advice. STOP. SLOW DOWN. Do *NOT* just 'Do Something'. That is a terrible approach if you don't know exactly what it is you are doing. - The next request is to send a screenshot, while viewing the Windows Explorer, when viewing the folder where your Gnucash file resides. Does that sound complicated? If so, say so, and myself or someone else will simplify this process. Regards, Adrien p.s — Barry, I know some of the above sentences may seem harsh. I'm doing my best to help you as is everyone else here. You *really* have to meet myself and everyone else here at least half-way. You've made a big stride in attaching an image vs. copy/pasting one. Keep that momentum up and we'll have you solving your conundrum in a jiffy. But you have to keep that momentum up... ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Barry, I have never used CaptureWiz but my screen capture utility saves images as "screenshot from(dateandtime).png". That format would work here. On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55 PM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > OK,I have an app called CaptureWiz but it doesn't save as gps > > Here goes with an attachment - recent files in tax accounts and returns, > as I said, not used as gnucash data from loading, recently, but seem to > have recently saved files. Further mystery. > > My question now is can I and how do I move over to adminstrato? > > The attached files have no 'save' icon live, so, if I enter some data > will I have the same issue with saving? and what can be done? They are > in calendar terms quite recent so I would like to continue from where I > "left off" if possible. > > Thanks to all for the advice. > > Barry > > > > On 27/08/2023 14:50, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > You do not need to do anything with the gnucash files to send a > > screenshot. > > > > We DO NOT need you to send the actual gnucash files. > > > > You can't copy/paste images here. They are removed. > > > > You have to ATTACH the screenshots. > > > > What mail application are you using to access this list? > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 8/27/23 5:50 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: > >> Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been > >> unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) > >> copy and paste as an alternative. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or > Reply-All.___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
You do not need to do anything with the gnucash files to send a screenshot. We DO NOT need you to send the actual gnucash files. You can't copy/paste images here. They are removed. You have to ATTACH the screenshots. What mail application are you using to access this list? Regards, Adrien On 8/27/23 5:50 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) copy and paste as an alternative. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) copy and paste as an alternative. Thanks for the info, Barry On 26/08/2023 23:26, Carsten Hütter wrote: Hi Barry! In this newsgroup, screenshots need to be sent as attachements. Pasting an in line picture doesn't show anything, it's filtered out. HTH Carsten Am 25.08.23 um 10:58 schrieb Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user: Thanks to all. On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, so should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under administrato?? When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? For reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from Gnu in my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about Gnucash!! Quite frustrating. Finbar On 24/08/2023 21:01, David Carlson wrote: [...] ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Hi Barry! In this newsgroup, screenshots need to be sent as attachements. Pasting an in line picture doesn't show anything, it's filtered out. HTH Carsten Am 25.08.23 um 10:58 schrieb Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user: Thanks to all. On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, so should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under administrato?? When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? For reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from Gnu in my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about Gnucash!! Quite frustrating. Finbar On 24/08/2023 21:01, David Carlson wrote: [...] ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
On Friday, 25 August 2023 16:31:47 BST Mahon Finbar wrote: > As I said, I have had unresolved issues with creating .jpg files from MS. did you? sorry, must have missed that bit. is it easier to send a PNG? that should get through as an attached image well enough. > > I'' try creating jpg from CaptureWiz and attach > OK. or whatever file type CaptureWiz defaults to (I don't know that program). I'd imagine that (some) others on the list and I can open the vast majority of probable image formats this end. good luck. Maf. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Thanks to all. On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, so should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under administrato?? When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? For reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from Gnu in my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about Gnucash!! Quite frustrating. Finbar On 24/08/2023 21:01, David Carlson wrote: Your last message was truncated before the salient part, but I suspect that you do not have rights for GnuCash to save files in administrato user space. You need to unscramble which username is your 'standard' username and put all your user files including other types from other applications such as spreadsheets, pdfs, text files, etc. in that userspace Documents folder or some subfolder. I am not sure how much trouble it will be to do that, but you probably need to have administrator rights to accomplish that. Then you can make sure that your 'standard' user has read/write rights for all those files so you no longer need administrator rights. I am not a Windows guru so I may have overlooked some details to warn you about. Good luck. On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 12:47 PM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: Thanks for the details, OK, here goes. I opened this file in Gnu - No 'log' It had a 'save' icon and when I try to save it I get this - That is the problem. There is plenty of space. Finbar On 24/08/2023 18:28, Maf. King wrote: > Barry, > > thanks for the update. > > The *.log and *.gcm files are not your data. no idea what *.msf and *.dmp > would be (maybe a crash dump?). Your main data file will most likely be a > *,gnucash file. > > As to backups and datestamps etc see the attached image. > > mafs-new-accs.xac is my data file (.xac is the very old suffix, it still works > and ,gnucash is equivalent. I'm just old-school) > > ignore the .logs > > you can see the datestamps are MMDDhhmmss which should help you decipher > your list. > > the first backup in my image is 20230824120845. So it was made today > (2023-08-24 at 12:08:45) . as you can see, that time matches the "create > time/date" for the base file. > > hope that helps you with the deciphering, if you can't get us a screenshot. > > Just try to find the *.gnucash file with the most recent date stamp in the name, > move it into a new folder, call it something sensible and open it. see what > transactions GC says is there. Add a test txn in and try to save it. > > Good luck > Maf. > > > > > On Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:14:26 BST Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: >> This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had >> an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July. >> >> I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to >> help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file >> type required just did not work. >> >> There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one >> set of GNU files with different user names, and at different times. >> >> I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of >> July 2023. >> >> There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names, >> suffixes, etc., such as - >> >> 16 files of type - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and >> where only the alphanumeric is different >> >> A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups >> with several date strings in the same file. >> >> I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or >> .dmp or GnuCash_is1 !! >> >> Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in >> different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most >> of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash. >> >> Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents >> (C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have >> sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message - >> >> "Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is >> "Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato"" >> >> >> Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do >> by mid November. >> >> I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022 >> transactions, the tax
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Your last message was truncated before the salient part, but I suspect that you do not have rights for GnuCash to save files in administrato user space. You need to unscramble which username is your 'standard' username and put all your user files including other types from other applications such as spreadsheets, pdfs, text files, etc. in that userspace Documents folder or some subfolder. I am not sure how much trouble it will be to do that, but you probably need to have administrator rights to accomplish that. Then you can make sure that your 'standard' user has read/write rights for all those files so you no longer need administrator rights. I am not a Windows guru so I may have overlooked some details to warn you about. Good luck. On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 12:47 PM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > Thanks for the details, OK, here goes. > > I opened this file in Gnu - > > No 'log' It had a 'save' icon and when I try to save it I get this - > > That is the problem. There is plenty of space. > > Finbar > > On 24/08/2023 18:28, Maf. King wrote: > > Barry, > > > > thanks for the update. > > > > The *.log and *.gcm files are not your data. no idea what *.msf and > *.dmp > > would be (maybe a crash dump?).Your main data file will most likely > be a > > *,gnucash file. > > > > As to backups and datestamps etc see the attached image. > > > > mafs-new-accs.xac is my data file (.xac is the very old suffix, it still > works > > and ,gnucash is equivalent. I'm just old-school) > > > > ignore the .logs > > > > you can see the datestamps are MMDDhhmmss which should help you > decipher > > your list. > > > > the first backup in my image is 20230824120845. So it was made today > > (2023-08-24 at 12:08:45) . as you can see, that time matches the > "create > > time/date" for the base file. > > > > hope that helps you with the deciphering, if you can't get us a > screenshot. > > > > Just try to find the *.gnucash file with the most recent date stamp in > the name, > > move it into a new folder, call it something sensible and open it. see > what > > transactions GC says is there. Add a test txn in and try to save it. > > > > Good luck > > Maf. > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:14:26 BST Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user > wrote: > >> This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had > >> an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July. > >> > >> I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to > >> help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file > >> type required just did not work. > >> > >> There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one > >> set of GNU files with different user names, and at different times. > >> > >> I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of > >> July 2023. > >> > >> There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names, > >> suffixes, etc., such as - > >> > >> 16 files of type - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and > >> where only the alphanumeric is different > >> > >> A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups > >> with several date strings in the same file. > >> > >> I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or > >> .dmp or GnuCash_is1 !! > >> > >> Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in > >> different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most > >> of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash. > >> > >> Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents > >> (C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have > >> sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message - > >> > >> "Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is > >> "Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato"" > >> > >> > >> Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do > >> by mid November. > >> > >> I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022 > >> transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of > >> transactions to continue. > >> > >> Finbar > >> > >> > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Thanks for the details, OK, here goes. I opened this file in Gnu - No 'log' It had a 'save' icon and when I try to save it I get this - That is the problem. There is plenty of space. Finbar On 24/08/2023 18:28, Maf. King wrote: Barry, thanks for the update. The *.log and *.gcm files are not your data. no idea what *.msf and *.dmp would be (maybe a crash dump?).Your main data file will most likely be a *,gnucash file. As to backups and datestamps etc see the attached image. mafs-new-accs.xac is my data file (.xac is the very old suffix, it still works and ,gnucash is equivalent. I'm just old-school) ignore the .logs you can see the datestamps are MMDDhhmmss which should help you decipher your list. the first backup in my image is 20230824120845. So it was made today (2023-08-24 at 12:08:45) . as you can see, that time matches the "create time/date" for the base file. hope that helps you with the deciphering, if you can't get us a screenshot. Just try to find the *.gnucash file with the most recent date stamp in the name, move it into a new folder, call it something sensible and open it. see what transactions GC says is there. Add a test txn in and try to save it. Good luck Maf. On Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:14:26 BST Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July. I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file type required just did not work. There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one set of GNU files with different user names, and at different times. I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of July 2023. There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names, suffixes, etc., such as - 16 files of type - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and where only the alphanumeric is different A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups with several date strings in the same file. I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or .dmp or GnuCash_is1 !! Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash. Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents (C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message - "Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is "Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato"" Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do by mid November. I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022 transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of transactions to continue. Finbar ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:15 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had > an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July. > > I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to > help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file > type required just did not work. > > There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one > set of GNU files with different user names, and at different times. > > I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of > July 2023. > > There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names, > suffixes, etc., such as - > > 16 files of type - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and > where only the alphanumeric is different > > A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups > with several date strings in the same file. > > I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or > .dmp or GnuCash_is1 !! > > Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in > different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most > of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash. > > Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents > (C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have > sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message - > > "Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is > "Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato"" > > > Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do > by mid November. > > I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022 > transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of > transactions to continue. > > Finbar > I'm glad all of the files are under one user now... make sure that you access them with the same user, or (if you are an advanced user, set the permissions accordingly). The file that holds the GnuCash data has an extension of ".gnucash" - you can ignore the other files for the time being. Your main file should be "what-you-called-it.gnucash" (for example, "Finbar.gnucash"). If you don't have one of those files, you have trouble... all the similar-looking files are backup files with the numbers being year-month-day-hour-minute-second (using the sample name above, "Finbar.20230822072234.gnucash"). If your main file is missing, can you restore it from a backup? If so, restore it, and then start GnuCash and use the File->Open to open that restored file... you should enter any data you have missing and use this file as your file henceforth. If you cannot restore your main file, you will need to pick a backup file, and start with it. I don't know which would be the best backup file, as I seem to recall that you have been doing edits on various files. You will have to decide which is best... possibly, the one with the latest "Modified" date. Also, I'm not sure how to open a backup file, because (on my iMac), the File->Open option does not let me see backup files. You may need to create a copy of the backup file and call it your main file. You should then start GnuCash and use File->Open to open that file. You'll need to correct anything that is wrong and then go forward. Because of all the confusion, after you are SURE you have a good main file again, you might want to clear out the old backup files and start fresh. You control how long to keep backup files in the "General" tab of the preferences. As a safety precaution, I would certainly backup the files that you have. I created a folder just for my GnuCash data files (separate from the install folder). All it contains are .gnucash files and .log files (and, of course, the LCK file when I'm running GnuCash). I like this because all it contains are the data files... this may be worth considering for you. Once you have your file fixed up, you can use the File->Save As to put your data file in its own place. I never click on a file to open it; I always open GnuCash application... it seems to always open the last file that was being worked on. Best wishes to you... I hope this helped. _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Thank you and happy to see that someone else is confused by filenames and suffixes A screen grab from CaptureWiz of a screen from part of my 'July' GNU search. My issue was that towards the end of July I had a strange message which said I had no rights to save the current transactions to the file I was apparently trying to save to. I had no idea were the 'errant' file came from. I put up a text of the message and then went through a series of messages about what was happening, with increasing confusion. All I want to do is find, if possible, the original 'good' file I was working on and continue. I would be quite happy to try on the dates in the last few days of July, but where to start? Can anyone identify a likely candidate? For example in the screengrab there are a series of files with 496kb on the same time and date on 30 July, but I am not sure how to start a GNU session to access the 'right' file? Finbar On 24/08/2023 18:28, Maf. King wrote: Barry, thanks for the update. The *.log and *.gcm files are not your data. no idea what *.msf and *.dmp would be (maybe a crash dump?).Your main data file will most likely be a *,gnucash file. As to backups and datestamps etc see the attached image. mafs-new-accs.xac is my data file (.xac is the very old suffix, it still works and ,gnucash is equivalent. I'm just old-school) ignore the .logs you can see the datestamps are MMDDhhmmss which should help you decipher your list. the first backup in my image is 20230824120845. So it was made today (2023-08-24 at 12:08:45) . as you can see, that time matches the "create time/date" for the base file. hope that helps you with the deciphering, if you can't get us a screenshot. Just try to find the *.gnucash file with the most recent date stamp in the name, move it into a new folder, call it something sensible and open it. see what transactions GC says is there. Add a test txn in and try to save it. Good luck Maf. On Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:14:26 BST Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July. I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file type required just did not work. There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one set of GNU files with different user names, and at different times. I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of July 2023. There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names, suffixes, etc., such as - 16 files of type - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and where only the alphanumeric is different A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups with several date strings in the same file. I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or .dmp or GnuCash_is1 !! Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash. Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents (C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message - "Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is "Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato"" Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do by mid November. I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022 transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of transactions to continue. Finbar ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Issues with gnucash files
This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July. I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file type required just did not work. There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one set of GNU files with different user names, and at different times. I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of July 2023. There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names, suffixes, etc., such as - 16 files of type - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and where only the alphanumeric is different A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups with several date strings in the same file. I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or .dmp or GnuCash_is1 !! Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash. Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents (C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message - "Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is "Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato"" Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do by mid November. I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022 transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of transactions to continue. Finbar ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
