Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-25 Thread David H
Ah thanks Fred good to know.

Cheers David H

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 8:50 pm, Fred Bone  wrote:

> On 25 February 2024 at 10:43, David H said:
>
> [...]
> > But for the odd time that you don't want the Scheduled txns created,
> > granted rare, there's no way currently to say, no just this once please
> > don't create them.  I've been in this situation myself but can't remember
> > exactly why or what I screwed up at the time.
> >
> > You can't change the existing preference to "No" until you've opened your
> > data file and by then the scheduled txns have already been created.
> > Thinking about it further I suppose you could fairly easily delete them
> > from the Created Txns tab if you also have the "Review created
> > transactions" preference checked on?
> >
> > At the moment on startup there's no way to prevent the scheduled txns
> > being created if the preference is set to on, it just happens and is
> > unstoppable.
>
> Not so.
>
> The preference is at user level, not file level. All you need do is open
> an empty file, change the preference, then open the desired file.
>
> At least, that's true of 2.6.21; I doubt it's changed.
>
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-25 Thread Fred Bone
On 25 February 2024 at 10:43, David H said:

[...]
> But for the odd time that you don't want the Scheduled txns created,
> granted rare, there's no way currently to say, no just this once please
> don't create them.  I've been in this situation myself but can't remember
> exactly why or what I screwed up at the time.
> 
> You can't change the existing preference to "No" until you've opened your
> data file and by then the scheduled txns have already been created.
> Thinking about it further I suppose you could fairly easily delete them
> from the Created Txns tab if you also have the "Review created
> transactions" preference checked on?
> 
> At the moment on startup there's no way to prevent the scheduled txns
> being created if the preference is set to on, it just happens and is
> unstoppable.

Not so.

The preference is at user level, not file level. All you need do is open 
an empty file, change the preference, then open the desired file.

At least, that's true of 2.6.21; I doubt it's changed.


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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-24 Thread Gyle McCollam
Even if you don't have "Review created transactions" preference checked on, you 
can always use the find option.  Look for "Date Posted" use the "is on or 
after" option to find all transactions after 1/1/?? and you can then delete 
them.  You would have to change the preference before you open an old file to 
either not "Run when data file opened" or as you suggest make sure "Review 
created transactions" is checked so you can delete them more easily.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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Subject: Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

Correct, I'm aware of the preference and also have it checked on as it
saves me keystrokes :-)

What is the point of the preference?  Well obviously most times it's useful
and saves you having to run the "Since last run" process to create them
yourself.

But for the odd time that you don't want the Scheduled txns created,
granted rare, there's no way currently to say, no just this once please
don't create them.  I've been in this situation myself but can't remember
exactly why or what I screwed up at the time.

You can't change the existing preference to "No" until you've opened your
data file and by then the scheduled txns have already been created.
Thinking about it further I suppose you could fairly easily delete them
from the Created Txns tab if you also have the "Review created
transactions" preference checked on?

At the moment on startup there's no way to prevent the scheduled txns being
created if the preference is set to on, it just happens and is unstoppable.

Cheers David H.


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 10:05, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> That would be:
>
> Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run > Run when data
> file opened.
>
> So you want a dialog box to confirm the preference each time? What's the
> point of the preference then?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:03 PM, David H wrote:
> > Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
> > Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
> > have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
> > hindsight :-)
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-24 Thread David H
Correct, I'm aware of the preference and also have it checked on as it
saves me keystrokes :-)

What is the point of the preference?  Well obviously most times it's useful
and saves you having to run the "Since last run" process to create them
yourself.

But for the odd time that you don't want the Scheduled txns created,
granted rare, there's no way currently to say, no just this once please
don't create them.  I've been in this situation myself but can't remember
exactly why or what I screwed up at the time.

You can't change the existing preference to "No" until you've opened your
data file and by then the scheduled txns have already been created.
Thinking about it further I suppose you could fairly easily delete them
from the Created Txns tab if you also have the "Review created
transactions" preference checked on?

At the moment on startup there's no way to prevent the scheduled txns being
created if the preference is set to on, it just happens and is unstoppable.

Cheers David H.


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 10:05, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> That would be:
>
> Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run > Run when data
> file opened.
>
> So you want a dialog box to confirm the preference each time? What's the
> point of the preference then?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:03 PM, David H wrote:
> > Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
> > Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
> > have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
> > hindsight :-)
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone

That would be:

Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run > Run when data 
file opened.


So you want a dialog box to confirm the preference each time? What's the 
point of the preference then?


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/24/24 2:03 PM, David H wrote:

Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
hindsight :-)


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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-24 Thread David H
What OS & Gnucash version ?  What I would try is to just close all apps
running/open on your pc, then set your pc date and time to the last updated
date/time of your Gnucash file.  Open the file which hopefully won't
trigger any scheduled txns and then turn off the "run when data file
opened" preference to run them at startup.

Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
hindsight :-)

Cheers David H.

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 04:47, Grace  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase
> all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open
> the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did
> not think about that!!
>
> Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the
> app? Are the scheduled transactions in a file some where that I could
> delete?
>
> Hope there is an easy way to do this,
>
> Thanks
>
> Grace
>
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 2/23/2024 4:02 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2024-02-23 10:46, Grace wrote:


I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase
all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open
the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did
not think about that!!

Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the
app?


BUT  if you are opening this 2022 file to look at data entered only 
before 2023, you should not have a problem.


a) Run whatever reports you need with explicit dates (any date would be 
before 1/1/23)


b) Do not save changes (turn off autosave; do not save at end) OR first 
make a copy of your 2022 archive file and use that.


c) If these scheduled transactions ARE interfering with what you want to 
look at, consider HOW you are looking at it and what alternative ways 
(for example, reports where you can supply explicit dates)


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-23 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Stan gave you the answer, but also, please just start a new e-mail to 
the group when beginning a topic. It looks like you hit 'reply' on 
someone else's topic to start your own.


I'll add to Stan's answer that other than deleting the Scheduled 
Transactions, if you are going to be in the habit of archiving a copy of 
the file each year, you can set each Scheduled Transaction to stop 
working as of December 31st of that year before archiving. Then when you 
open the book again to begin work in the new year, change that to 12/31 
of the new year. From them on, all of your Scheduled Transactions will 
stop firing each year on 12/31, and you can restart them by changing the 
year in that setting when you first open the book in the next year. (no, 
sorry, there's no way to do that for lots of them at once, it is a 
one-at-a-time edit)


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/23/24 12:46 PM, Grace wrote:

Hello All,

I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase 
all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open 
the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did 
not think about that!!


Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the 
app? Are the scheduled transactions in a file some where that I could 
delete?


Hope there is an easy way to do this,


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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-23 Thread David Carlson
I am not at my computer right now so I can't try, but you may be able open
the file in read only mode.  It may still run the SLR though.



On Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 3:03 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>
> On 2024-02-23 10:46, Grace wrote:
>
> > I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase
> > all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open
> > the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did
> > not think about that!!
> >
> > Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the
> > app?
>
> Not as far as I'm aware. I'm pretty sure that the scheduled transactions
> are part of the .gnucash file, not some external file.
>
> > Are the scheduled transactions in a file some where that I could
> > delete?
>
> Sure.
>
> 1. Click Action » Scheduled Transactions » Scheduled Transaction Editor.
> 2. Click one of the scheduled transactions you want to delete, and click
> the Delete button.
> 3. Repeat step 2 as many times as necessary.
>
> As for the transactions that have already fired, you're going to have to
> delete them one at a time.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-23 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)

On 2024-02-23 10:46, Grace wrote:

> I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase
> all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open
> the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did
> not think about that!!
> 
> Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the
> app? 

Not as far as I'm aware. I'm pretty sure that the scheduled transactions
are part of the .gnucash file, not some external file.

> Are the scheduled transactions in a file some where that I could
> delete?

Sure.

1. Click Action » Scheduled Transactions » Scheduled Transaction Editor.
2. Click one of the scheduled transactions you want to delete, and click
the Delete button.
3. Repeat step 2 as many times as necessary.

As for the transactions that have already fired, you're going to have to
delete them one at a time.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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[GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

2024-02-23 Thread Grace

Hello All,

I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase 
all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open 
the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did 
not think about that!!


Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the 
app? Are the scheduled transactions in a file some where that I could 
delete?


Hope there is an easy way to do this,

Thanks

Grace


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