Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
> On Dec 13, 2023, at 13:21, Manfred Usselmann wrote: > > Am 2023-12-13 21:11, schrieb John Ralls: >>> On Dec 13, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Manfred Usselmann >>> wrote: >>> Am 2023-12-13 19:32, schrieb Manfred Usselmann: Am 2023-12-12 05:23, schrieb Adrien Monteleone: > On 12/11/23 4:21 PM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: >> Yes, but then much more screen space is used. The border is there even >> with single lines, just without a visible border line. When you move the >> cursor there it changes to the double arrow indicating the possibility >> to resize. >> I believe the border is missing because the header text for the accounts >> column is missing. >> Yesterday I saw the header text for some accounts but it went away after >> a while. Very strange. > The label is there, but only in Basic View. > Split & Transaction Journal do not have it. > I'd say that is a bug. You are right, definitely a long standing bug. With View Double Line and Active Complete (Whatever it is called, I've got a different translation) the label is missing, with Single Line it is there. >>> Bug entered: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799163 >>> ___ >> Manfred didn't describe very well what he was seeing, but his screenshots on >> the bug make it clear. This is a feature not a bug. >> When the register is in split view the header changes depending on the >> selected row. When the selected transaction is in split view the transaction >> row has nothing in the account or reconcile column; those headings are >> accordingly blank; the transaction row has the date, the number, the >> description, along with the total (really net) credit or debit and the >> balance for the selected register and the header labels reflect that. Move >> the focus to a split row and the headers change to action, memo, account, >> reconcile status, debit, and credit reflecting the split information that's >> displayed in the selected row. > > I understand, thanks for the detailed explanation. > > Would it be possible to always show the border between account and reconcile > column to make column resizing easier? Certainly possible. Bob Fewell, do you know where is the code that hides it? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
Am 2023-12-13 21:11, schrieb John Ralls: On Dec 13, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: Am 2023-12-13 19:32, schrieb Manfred Usselmann: Am 2023-12-12 05:23, schrieb Adrien Monteleone: On 12/11/23 4:21 PM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: Yes, but then much more screen space is used. The border is there even with single lines, just without a visible border line. When you move the cursor there it changes to the double arrow indicating the possibility to resize. I believe the border is missing because the header text for the accounts column is missing. Yesterday I saw the header text for some accounts but it went away after a while. Very strange. The label is there, but only in Basic View. Split & Transaction Journal do not have it. I'd say that is a bug. You are right, definitely a long standing bug. With View Double Line and Active Complete (Whatever it is called, I've got a different translation) the label is missing, with Single Line it is there. Bug entered: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799163 ___ Manfred didn't describe very well what he was seeing, but his screenshots on the bug make it clear. This is a feature not a bug. When the register is in split view the header changes depending on the selected row. When the selected transaction is in split view the transaction row has nothing in the account or reconcile column; those headings are accordingly blank; the transaction row has the date, the number, the description, along with the total (really net) credit or debit and the balance for the selected register and the header labels reflect that. Move the focus to a split row and the headers change to action, memo, account, reconcile status, debit, and credit reflecting the split information that's displayed in the selected row. I understand, thanks for the detailed explanation. Would it be possible to always show the border between account and reconcile column to make column resizing easier? Regards, Manfred ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
> On Dec 13, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: > > Am 2023-12-13 19:32, schrieb Manfred Usselmann: >> Am 2023-12-12 05:23, schrieb Adrien Monteleone: >>> On 12/11/23 4:21 PM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: Yes, but then much more screen space is used. The border is there even with single lines, just without a visible border line. When you move the cursor there it changes to the double arrow indicating the possibility to resize. I believe the border is missing because the header text for the accounts column is missing. Yesterday I saw the header text for some accounts but it went away after a while. Very strange. >>> The label is there, but only in Basic View. >>> Split & Transaction Journal do not have it. >>> I'd say that is a bug. >> You are right, definitely a long standing bug. With View Double Line and >> Active Complete (Whatever it is called, I've got a different translation) >> the label is missing, with Single Line it is there. > > Bug entered: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799163 > ___ Manfred didn't describe very well what he was seeing, but his screenshots on the bug make it clear. This is a feature not a bug. When the register is in split view the header changes depending on the selected row. When the selected transaction is in split view the transaction row has nothing in the account or reconcile column; those headings are accordingly blank; the transaction row has the date, the number, the description, along with the total (really net) credit or debit and the balance for the selected register and the header labels reflect that. Move the focus to a split row and the headers change to action, memo, account, reconcile status, debit, and credit reflecting the split information that's displayed in the selected row. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
Am 2023-12-13 19:32, schrieb Manfred Usselmann: Am 2023-12-12 05:23, schrieb Adrien Monteleone: On 12/11/23 4:21 PM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: Yes, but then much more screen space is used. The border is there even with single lines, just without a visible border line. When you move the cursor there it changes to the double arrow indicating the possibility to resize. I believe the border is missing because the header text for the accounts column is missing. Yesterday I saw the header text for some accounts but it went away after a while. Very strange. The label is there, but only in Basic View. Split & Transaction Journal do not have it. I'd say that is a bug. You are right, definitely a long standing bug. With View Double Line and Active Complete (Whatever it is called, I've got a different translation) the label is missing, with Single Line it is there. Bug entered: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799163 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
Am 2023-12-12 05:23, schrieb Adrien Monteleone: On 12/11/23 4:21 PM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: Yes, but then much more screen space is used. The border is there even with single lines, just without a visible border line. When you move the cursor there it changes to the double arrow indicating the possibility to resize. I believe the border is missing because the header text for the accounts column is missing. Yesterday I saw the header text for some accounts but it went away after a while. Very strange. The label is there, but only in Basic View. Split & Transaction Journal do not have it. I'd say that is a bug. You are right, definitely a long standing bug. With View Double Line and Active Complete (Whatever it is called, I've got a different translation) the label is missing, with Single Line it is there. Regards, Manfred ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
The label is there, but only in Basic View. Split & Transaction Journal do not have it. I'd say that is a bug. Regards, Adrien On 12/11/23 4:21 PM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: Yes, but then much more screen space is used. The border is there even with single lines, just without a visible border line. When you move the cursor there it changes to the double arrow indicating the possibility to resize. I believe the border is missing because the header text for the accounts column is missing. Yesterday I saw the header text for some accounts but it went away after a while. Very strange. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
Am 2023-12-08 14:29, schrieb Adrien Monteleone: The border between the Account and Reconciliation column does exist, but you have to turn on View > Double Line to see it. Yes, but then much more screen space is used. The border is there even with single lines, just without a visible border line. When you move the cursor there it changes to the double arrow indicating the possibility to resize. I believe the border is missing because the header text for the accounts column is missing. Yesterday I saw the header text for some accounts but it went away after a while. Very strange. Regards, Manfred ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
The border between the Account and Reconciliation column does exist, but you have to turn on View > Double Line to see it. And thanks for the tip about double-clicking. I forgot about that part. Regards, Adrien On 12/7/23 7:55 PM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: There is one additional difficulty which is that there is no border line between the heading of the account column and the reconsiliation column. So it is easy to resize the reconciliation column when in reality you want to change the width of the account column... There is also the possibility to double click on the right border of the column headings to adjust the column width in such a way that the content of the column becomes fully visible. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
Am 2023-12-07 22:09, schrieb Adrien Monteleone: On 12/7/23 2:07 PM, Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:46:19 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: The Description column always fills the remaining width of the window. You adjust the other columns to your liking, then reduce the window width to shrink the Description column. Otherwise, you can after setting the other columns, drag the right handle of the Description column to the left and let it bounce back to fill the remaining space. So how do a make the columns to the right of the Description column wider? Do I drag them off the window? This actually makes no sense. Yes, that's how you do it, sort of. And if you try, it does make sense as you see it happen. For example, to widen the Account column, drag its right border to the right. (up in the header) The column will widen accordingly, and you will get a left-right scroll bar at the bottom of the window. Resize all columns *other than* the description to your liking, *first*. Then, to remove the scroll bar and size the Description to take up the remaining space of the window, (Window Width - Sum of all *other* Column Widths) drag its right-border to the left and let it snap back into place. (hence it auto-sizes) OK, I am totally confused. How do I make a column to the right of the Description wider *without* draging the right handle of the Description column to the left? See above. I don't want to *shrink* the columns to the right of the Description, I want to make one of them wider. How does one do that without shrinking the Description column? Where does the space come from? How does one add space? You are 'adding width' as you resize the other columns which triggers a scroll bar. You then snap the Description column back and the scroll bar goes away. What is happening is that there is some total window width W, which is the sum of widths of all of the columns (plus the margin space). If one wants to make some column Cx wider, some other collumn Cy needs to shrink, but this is impossible if the only column that is "shrinkable" (Cy) is the Description column. I can make columns to the *left* of the Description wider or narrower, but not the columns to the right of the Description. Any attempt to make any of them wider ends up making them all narrower until eventually one (or more) of them end up with a width of 0. As far as I am concerned, this is a bug (and a serious one at that). This makes no sense. Yes it does - try it and stop thinking about it. I have the source code and will go hunting... No need for that rabbit hole. Just follow the above. Note, this behavior is described in the Help manual and as Stan noted, there is also an FAQ entry about it. If you really want to see the code, go right ahead, but you're just going to discover what I've described above and is already documented behavior. There is one additional difficulty which is that there is no border line between the heading of the account column and the reconsiliation column. So it is easy to resize the reconciliation column when in reality you want to change the width of the account column... There is also the possibility to double click on the right border of the column headings to adjust the column width in such a way that the content of the column becomes fully visible. And as Adrien describes above, I can definitly make the columns on the right side of the description wider. If there is not enough space some columns or some part of a column becomes invisible and I get a horizontal scroll bar which allows me to scroll the whole window horizontally. Regards, Manfred ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
If desired, you can edit the widths by text so all the accounts match. I like this as after a while you develop a muscle memory of the columns and you navigate faster when the columns are the same. Help -> About -> GNC_USERDATA_DIR Open the books folder and edit the file On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 6:05 PM David Carlson wrote: > Robert, > > Once you get used to it, this method is about as hser friendly as possible > given the overall register design. > > I have found that for the size and resolution of the monitors that I > currently own, I first need to adjust the display setting to default to a > smaller font size to get more text into the register width, then I might > double click in the headers of some columns to show the widest entry > completely. Then I drag the right edge of the description column to the > left to remove the scrollbar at the bottom. I need to repeat for each > account that I use regularly, then close the Gnucash program with those > registers still open to save those settings in the .gcm file for that data > file, as mentioned by others. > > One mor litle gem, if a window opens too big to see a button at the bottom, > for example, hold down the Alt key and grab anywhere in the window with the > mouse and you can drag it around as needed. > > > > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 4:18 PM Robert Heller wrote: > > > At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:09:13 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: > > > > > > > > On 12/7/23 2:07 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:46:19 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> The Description column always fills the remaining width of the > window. > > > >> > > > >> You adjust the other columns to your liking, then reduce the window > > > >> width to shrink the Description column. Otherwise, you can after > > setting > > > >> the other columns, drag the right handle of the Description column > to > > > >> the left and let it bounce back to fill the remaining space. > > > > > > > > So how do a make the columns to the right of the Description column > > wider? Do > > > > I drag them off the window? This actually makes no sense. > > > > > > Yes, that's how you do it, sort of. And if you try, it does make sense > > > as you see it happen. > > > > > > For example, to widen the Account column, drag its right border to the > > > right. (up in the header) The column will widen accordingly, and you > > > will get a left-right scroll bar at the bottom of the window. Resize > all > > > columns *other than* the description to your liking, *first*. > > > > > > Then, to remove the scroll bar and size the Description to take up the > > > remaining space of the window, (Window Width - Sum of all *other* > Column > > > Widths) drag its right-border to the left and let it snap back into > > > place. (hence it auto-sizes) > > > > > > > OK, I am totally confused. How do I make a column to the right of the > > > > Description wider *without* draging the right handle of the > > Description column > > > > to the left? > > > > > > See above. > > > > > > I don't want to *shrink* the columns to the right of the > > > > Description, I want to make one of them wider. How does one do that > > without > > > > shrinking the Description column? Where does the space come from? How > > does one > > > > add space? > > > > > > You are 'adding width' as you resize the other columns which triggers a > > > scroll bar. You then snap the Description column back and the scroll > bar > > > goes away. > > > > > > What is happening is that there is some total window width W, which > > > > is the sum of widths of all of the columns (plus the margin space). > If > > one > > > > wants to make some column Cx wider, some other collumn Cy needs to > > shrink, but > > > > this is impossible if the only column that is "shrinkable" (Cy) is > the > > > > Description column. I can make columns to the *left* of the > > Description wider > > > > or narrower, but not the columns to the right of the Description. Any > > attempt > > > > to make any of them wider ends up making them all narrower until > > eventually > > > > one (or more) of them end up with a width of 0. As far as I am > > concerned, this > > > > is a bug (and a serious one at that). This makes no sense. > > > > > > Yes it does - try it and stop thinking about it. > > > > > > > > > > > I have the source code and will go hunting... > > > > > > No need for that rabbit hole. Just follow the above. Note, this > behavior > > > is described in the Help manual and as Stan noted, there is also an FAQ > > > entry about it. If you really want to see the code, go right ahead, but > > > you're just going to discover what I've described above and is already > > > documented behavior. > > > > All I can say is *no other application* with a resizable column UI that I > > have > > ever used works that way. AFAIK, this is unique to Gnucash... It was > > totally > > unexpected and *unfriendly* behaviour [to
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
Robert, Once you get used to it, this method is about as hser friendly as possible given the overall register design. I have found that for the size and resolution of the monitors that I currently own, I first need to adjust the display setting to default to a smaller font size to get more text into the register width, then I might double click in the headers of some columns to show the widest entry completely. Then I drag the right edge of the description column to the left to remove the scrollbar at the bottom. I need to repeat for each account that I use regularly, then close the Gnucash program with those registers still open to save those settings in the .gcm file for that data file, as mentioned by others. One mor litle gem, if a window opens too big to see a button at the bottom, for example, hold down the Alt key and grab anywhere in the window with the mouse and you can drag it around as needed. On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 4:18 PM Robert Heller wrote: > At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:09:13 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: > > > > > On 12/7/23 2:07 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > > > > > > At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:46:19 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> The Description column always fills the remaining width of the window. > > >> > > >> You adjust the other columns to your liking, then reduce the window > > >> width to shrink the Description column. Otherwise, you can after > setting > > >> the other columns, drag the right handle of the Description column to > > >> the left and let it bounce back to fill the remaining space. > > > > > > So how do a make the columns to the right of the Description column > wider? Do > > > I drag them off the window? This actually makes no sense. > > > > Yes, that's how you do it, sort of. And if you try, it does make sense > > as you see it happen. > > > > For example, to widen the Account column, drag its right border to the > > right. (up in the header) The column will widen accordingly, and you > > will get a left-right scroll bar at the bottom of the window. Resize all > > columns *other than* the description to your liking, *first*. > > > > Then, to remove the scroll bar and size the Description to take up the > > remaining space of the window, (Window Width - Sum of all *other* Column > > Widths) drag its right-border to the left and let it snap back into > > place. (hence it auto-sizes) > > > > > OK, I am totally confused. How do I make a column to the right of the > > > Description wider *without* draging the right handle of the > Description column > > > to the left? > > > > See above. > > > > I don't want to *shrink* the columns to the right of the > > > Description, I want to make one of them wider. How does one do that > without > > > shrinking the Description column? Where does the space come from? How > does one > > > add space? > > > > You are 'adding width' as you resize the other columns which triggers a > > scroll bar. You then snap the Description column back and the scroll bar > > goes away. > > > > What is happening is that there is some total window width W, which > > > is the sum of widths of all of the columns (plus the margin space). If > one > > > wants to make some column Cx wider, some other collumn Cy needs to > shrink, but > > > this is impossible if the only column that is "shrinkable" (Cy) is the > > > Description column. I can make columns to the *left* of the > Description wider > > > or narrower, but not the columns to the right of the Description. Any > attempt > > > to make any of them wider ends up making them all narrower until > eventually > > > one (or more) of them end up with a width of 0. As far as I am > concerned, this > > > is a bug (and a serious one at that). This makes no sense. > > > > Yes it does - try it and stop thinking about it. > > > > > > > > I have the source code and will go hunting... > > > > No need for that rabbit hole. Just follow the above. Note, this behavior > > is described in the Help manual and as Stan noted, there is also an FAQ > > entry about it. If you really want to see the code, go right ahead, but > > you're just going to discover what I've described above and is already > > documented behavior. > > All I can say is *no other application* with a resizable column UI that I > have > ever used works that way. AFAIK, this is unique to Gnucash... It was > totally > unexpected and *unfriendly* behaviour [to me]. > > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > > > -- > Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 > Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services >
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:09:13 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: > > On 12/7/23 2:07 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > > > At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:46:19 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: > > > >> > >> The Description column always fills the remaining width of the window. > >> > >> You adjust the other columns to your liking, then reduce the window > >> width to shrink the Description column. Otherwise, you can after setting > >> the other columns, drag the right handle of the Description column to > >> the left and let it bounce back to fill the remaining space. > > > > So how do a make the columns to the right of the Description column wider? > > Do > > I drag them off the window? This actually makes no sense. > > Yes, that's how you do it, sort of. And if you try, it does make sense > as you see it happen. > > For example, to widen the Account column, drag its right border to the > right. (up in the header) The column will widen accordingly, and you > will get a left-right scroll bar at the bottom of the window. Resize all > columns *other than* the description to your liking, *first*. > > Then, to remove the scroll bar and size the Description to take up the > remaining space of the window, (Window Width - Sum of all *other* Column > Widths) drag its right-border to the left and let it snap back into > place. (hence it auto-sizes) > > > OK, I am totally confused. How do I make a column to the right of the > > Description wider *without* draging the right handle of the Description > > column > > to the left? > > See above. > > I don't want to *shrink* the columns to the right of the > > Description, I want to make one of them wider. How does one do that without > > shrinking the Description column? Where does the space come from? How does > > one > > add space? > > You are 'adding width' as you resize the other columns which triggers a > scroll bar. You then snap the Description column back and the scroll bar > goes away. > > What is happening is that there is some total window width W, which > > is the sum of widths of all of the columns (plus the margin space). If one > > wants to make some column Cx wider, some other collumn Cy needs to shrink, > > but > > this is impossible if the only column that is "shrinkable" (Cy) is the > > Description column. I can make columns to the *left* of the Description > > wider > > or narrower, but not the columns to the right of the Description. Any > > attempt > > to make any of them wider ends up making them all narrower until eventually > > one (or more) of them end up with a width of 0. As far as I am concerned, > > this > > is a bug (and a serious one at that). This makes no sense. > > Yes it does - try it and stop thinking about it. > > > > > I have the source code and will go hunting... > > No need for that rabbit hole. Just follow the above. Note, this behavior > is described in the Help manual and as Stan noted, there is also an FAQ > entry about it. If you really want to see the code, go right ahead, but > you're just going to discover what I've described above and is already > documented behavior. All I can say is *no other application* with a resizable column UI that I have ever used works that way. AFAIK, this is unique to Gnucash... It was totally unexpected and *unfriendly* behaviour [to me]. > > Regards, > Adrien > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
On 12/7/23 2:07 PM, Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:46:19 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: The Description column always fills the remaining width of the window. You adjust the other columns to your liking, then reduce the window width to shrink the Description column. Otherwise, you can after setting the other columns, drag the right handle of the Description column to the left and let it bounce back to fill the remaining space. So how do a make the columns to the right of the Description column wider? Do I drag them off the window? This actually makes no sense. Yes, that's how you do it, sort of. And if you try, it does make sense as you see it happen. For example, to widen the Account column, drag its right border to the right. (up in the header) The column will widen accordingly, and you will get a left-right scroll bar at the bottom of the window. Resize all columns *other than* the description to your liking, *first*. Then, to remove the scroll bar and size the Description to take up the remaining space of the window, (Window Width - Sum of all *other* Column Widths) drag its right-border to the left and let it snap back into place. (hence it auto-sizes) OK, I am totally confused. How do I make a column to the right of the Description wider *without* draging the right handle of the Description column to the left? See above. I don't want to *shrink* the columns to the right of the Description, I want to make one of them wider. How does one do that without shrinking the Description column? Where does the space come from? How does one add space? You are 'adding width' as you resize the other columns which triggers a scroll bar. You then snap the Description column back and the scroll bar goes away. What is happening is that there is some total window width W, which is the sum of widths of all of the columns (plus the margin space). If one wants to make some column Cx wider, some other collumn Cy needs to shrink, but this is impossible if the only column that is "shrinkable" (Cy) is the Description column. I can make columns to the *left* of the Description wider or narrower, but not the columns to the right of the Description. Any attempt to make any of them wider ends up making them all narrower until eventually one (or more) of them end up with a width of 0. As far as I am concerned, this is a bug (and a serious one at that). This makes no sense. Yes it does - try it and stop thinking about it. I have the source code and will go hunting... No need for that rabbit hole. Just follow the above. Note, this behavior is described in the Help manual and as Stan noted, there is also an FAQ entry about it. If you really want to see the code, go right ahead, but you're just going to discover what I've described above and is already documented behavior. Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
On 2023-12-07 10:57, Robert Heller wrote:
> I have a UI problem (failure?) running GNC 4.14 under Ubuntu 22.04. I tried to
> shrink the Description column (make it narrower) in the general ledger display
> of an account, but Description column only wants to get wider. Draging the
> right edge to the left just "bounces" further to the right, causing the
> columns to the right of the Description column to shrink. How do I fix this? I
> tried exiting and restarting, but the column widths seem to be "remembered"
> somewhere (where?).
You may want to bookmark the FAQ list:
<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ>
"4.22 Q: How do I resize my register columns? Why can I not shrink the
description column?" is the one you want in this instance.
Column widths are stored in the file {your data file name}.gcm.
Locations of configuration files are here:
<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations>
and there's also a Linux-specific diagram here:
<https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Diagrams_-_Linux>
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
At Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:46:19 -0600 adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote: > > The Description column always fills the remaining width of the window. > > You adjust the other columns to your liking, then reduce the window > width to shrink the Description column. Otherwise, you can after setting > the other columns, drag the right handle of the Description column to > the left and let it bounce back to fill the remaining space. So how do a make the columns to the right of the Description column wider? Do I drag them off the window? This actually makes no sense. > > If you still find Description longer than you want, and you don't want > to narrow the width of the window, adjust the other columns accordingly. > I usually adjust the Account column wider in such cases. OK, I am totally confused. How do I make a column to the right of the Description wider *without* draging the right handle of the Description column to the left? I don't want to *shrink* the columns to the right of the Description, I want to make one of them wider. How does one do that without shrinking the Description column? Where does the space come from? How does one add space? What is happening is that there is some total window width W, which is the sum of widths of all of the columns (plus the margin space). If one wants to make some column Cx wider, some other collumn Cy needs to shrink, but this is impossible if the only column that is "shrinkable" (Cy) is the Description column. I can make columns to the *left* of the Description wider or narrower, but not the columns to the right of the Description. Any attempt to make any of them wider ends up making them all narrower until eventually one (or more) of them end up with a width of 0. As far as I am concerned, this is a bug (and a serious one at that). This makes no sense. I have the source code and will go hunting... > > This is nothing new in 4.14, GnuCash has worked this way for many many > years. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 12/7/23 12:57 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > I have a UI problem (failure?) running GNC 4.14 under Ubuntu 22.04. I tried > > to > > shrink the Description column (make it narrower) in the general ledger > > display > > of an account, but Description column only wants to get wider. Draging the > > right edge to the left just "bounces" further to the right, causing the > > columns to the right of the Description column to shrink. How do I fix > > this? I > > tried exiting and restarting, but the column widths seem to be "remembered" > > somewhere (where?). > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
The Description column always fills the remaining width of the window. You adjust the other columns to your liking, then reduce the window width to shrink the Description column. Otherwise, you can after setting the other columns, drag the right handle of the Description column to the left and let it bounce back to fill the remaining space. If you still find Description longer than you want, and you don't want to narrow the width of the window, adjust the other columns accordingly. I usually adjust the Account column wider in such cases. This is nothing new in 4.14, GnuCash has worked this way for many many years. Regards, Adrien On 12/7/23 12:57 PM, Robert Heller wrote: I have a UI problem (failure?) running GNC 4.14 under Ubuntu 22.04. I tried to shrink the Description column (make it narrower) in the general ledger display of an account, but Description column only wants to get wider. Draging the right edge to the left just "bounces" further to the right, causing the columns to the right of the Description column to shrink. How do I fix this? I tried exiting and restarting, but the column widths seem to be "remembered" somewhere (where?). ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] UI Problem with 4.14
I have a UI problem (failure?) running GNC 4.14 under Ubuntu 22.04. I tried to shrink the Description column (make it narrower) in the general ledger display of an account, but Description column only wants to get wider. Draging the right edge to the left just "bounces" further to the right, causing the columns to the right of the Description column to shrink. How do I fix this? I tried exiting and restarting, but the column widths seem to be "remembered" somewhere (where?). -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
