Re: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

2018-02-13 Thread Dean Gibson 

On 2018-02-13 09:31, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

[prior message omitted]
There was a discussion about this on the HP/Agilent Yahoo group a week or
two ago. Someone mentioned that some other group he was a member of, anyone
that receives the digest was on 'permanent moderation' so if ever they
replied to a digest, it would be blocked. If they replied to a non-digest
message, the moderator would let it pass. This does not seem unreasonable
to me, because it inconveniences a lot of people to have a subject such as
the month of the digest, rather than something more specific.

Dave


Seems very reasonable, but for me personally, it doesn't matter:  I 
delete ALL messages (no matter what the forum) that have a subject of a 
"digest".


Aside from being thoughtless, self-centered, and clueless, replies to 
digests are INHERENTLY STUPID:  By the very nature of digests, they 
usually don't include the more recent messages on a topic.  As a result, 
any reply usually duplicates ideas (eg, solutions) in later messages 
(that weren't included in the digest).


My advice?  Disable digests, & explain to new users why the subject line 
is important if one gets a lot of eMail.


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RE: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

2018-02-13 Thread Matt Graham 
Actually – better idea:
Can the digest produce a hyperlink at the end of each topic that is titled 
“Reply to this thread”. The hyperlink would be a standard “mailto:” hyper link 
that sets up an email to this user thread with the subject line of the thread. 
Would make it extremely easy to reply to a digest (and harder to do it wrong!).

Should be possible making the link address 
‘mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org?subject=Previous subject string’. Just don’t 
know if it is possible with mailman.

Thanks and regards,

Matt

From: Matt Graham<mailto:matt_graham2...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2018 8:44 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: RE: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

No worries Liz,

I was thinking how off-putting it must be for a new user receiving messages 
from other users saying “Don’t post like that!!!”

My next idea would be for the server to automatically change the subject line 
to ‘ “Question from “ + User Name’ whenever someone replies straight to a 
digest.

Happy for no change though – just means we’ll probably still keep getting 
people replying to the digests like this. Ultimately, it isn’t a big issue, and 
if there is no easy way to fix it, we can just work with it.

Thanks and regards,

Matt

From: Liz<mailto:ed...@billiau.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2018 5:49 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 05:29:13 +
Matt Graham <matt_graham2...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Probably stupid question – is there a way to set rules on the
> gnucash-user account?
>
> Ie anytime someone sends an email that starts with “Re gnucash-user
> Digest”, the system rejects their email with a response along the
> lines of “Please do not reply to the digest without changing the
> subject line. Start a new email with the subject line the same as the
> topic you wish to respond to.”
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Matt

I'm not aware of a place to put such an option.
I wouldn't like to get such an email if I was a new user with a
question related to a topic on the digest, and I'm not in favour of
making such a change.

Liz
Moderator
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RE: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

2018-02-13 Thread Matt Graham 
No worries Liz,

I was thinking how off-putting it must be for a new user receiving messages 
from other users saying “Don’t post like that!!!”

My next idea would be for the server to automatically change the subject line 
to ‘ “Question from “ + User Name’ whenever someone replies straight to a 
digest.

Happy for no change though – just means we’ll probably still keep getting 
people replying to the digests like this. Ultimately, it isn’t a big issue, and 
if there is no easy way to fix it, we can just work with it.

Thanks and regards,

Matt

From: Liz<mailto:ed...@billiau.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2018 5:49 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 05:29:13 +
Matt Graham <matt_graham2...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Probably stupid question – is there a way to set rules on the
> gnucash-user account?
>
> Ie anytime someone sends an email that starts with “Re gnucash-user
> Digest”, the system rejects their email with a response along the
> lines of “Please do not reply to the digest without changing the
> subject line. Start a new email with the subject line the same as the
> topic you wish to respond to.”
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Matt

I'm not aware of a place to put such an option.
I wouldn't like to get such an email if I was a new user with a
question related to a topic on the digest, and I'm not in favour of
making such a change.

Liz
Moderator
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Re: Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

2018-02-12 Thread Liz 
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 05:29:13 +
Matt Graham  wrote:

> Probably stupid question – is there a way to set rules on the
> gnucash-user account?
> 
> Ie anytime someone sends an email that starts with “Re gnucash-user
> Digest”, the system rejects their email with a response along the
> lines of “Please do not reply to the digest without changing the
> subject line. Start a new email with the subject line the same as the
> topic you wish to respond to.”
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Matt

I'm not aware of a place to put such an option.
I wouldn't like to get such an email if I was a new user with a
question related to a topic on the digest, and I'm not in favour of
making such a change.

Liz
Moderator
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Users replying to digest rather than starting a new thread

2018-02-10 Thread Matt Graham 
Probably stupid question – is there a way to set rules on the gnucash-user 
account?

Ie anytime someone sends an email that starts with “Re gnucash-user Digest”, 
the system rejects their email with a response along the lines of “Please do 
not reply to the digest without changing the subject line. Start a new email 
with the subject line the same as the topic you wish to respond to.”

Thanks and regards,

Matt

From: Geert Janssens
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2018 11:59 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 179, Issue 34

Op zaterdag 10 februari 2018 13:30:36 CET schreef Adonay Felipe Nogueira:
> I once *heard* that GNU Mailman version 3 has forum-like interface but
> with proper mailing list integration. We are using GNU Mailman, but not
> the last version, and I don't know why. I know little about the
> internals of GnuCash project's infrastructure because I'm just a user.

Mailman 3 in combination with Hyperkitty would indeed provide the combined
functionality.

The problem is both are missing from Fedora repositories. I have asked about
this and the answer was they are not stable enough. Not a good base to build a
user facing platform on yet.

I'm still hoping it will materialize one day, though I'm no longer holding my
breath on that...

Geert


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