Re: sha2 utilities: Print or check SHA-2 digests

2006-06-10 Thread Qed
On 06/10/2006 12:35 AM, rmyster wrote:
--print-md algo [files]
--print-mds [files]
   Print message digest of algorithm ALGO for all  given files  or
   stdin.   With  the  second  form  (or  a deprecated * as 
 algo)
   digests for all available algorithms are printed.
 
 Oh...I never would have made the connection.  I can see what it
 refers to now but when I read it, the algorithm ALGO was one I had
 never heard of.  Realistically, I wouldn't have caught it even if it was
 written as   --print-md algorithm [files] 
Ever heard of the funny story about the user calling helpdesk because
cannot find the any key on his keyboard? ;-)
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Re: sha2 utilities: Print or check SHA-2 digests

2006-06-10 Thread rmyster
On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:27 +0200, Qed wrote:
 --print-md algo [files]
 --print-mds [files]
Print message digest of algorithm ALGO for all  given files  
  or
stdin.   With  the  second  form  (or  a deprecated * as 
  algo)
digests for all available algorithms are printed.
  
  Oh...I never would have made the connection.  I can see what it
  refers to now but when I read it, the algorithm ALGO was one I had
  never heard of.  Realistically, I wouldn't have caught it even if it was
  written as   --print-md algorithm [files] 
 Ever heard of the funny story about the user calling helpdesk because
 cannot find the any key on his keyboard? ;-)

Yes, and supposedly it's causing problems for support departments.   On
the other hand, if you're looking for the command to calculate sha256
and sha512 hashes, what are the odds you will be targeting words like
ALGO?  HASH maybe, but algo?  I'd be curious as to how many users
even know that gpg can do sha256 and sha512 hashes based on what is
written in the docs.  MD5SUM and SHA1SUM are spelled out as clear as day
in contrast to the ones I was trying to use.  I had been using other
applications to get the values.  

Still, does anyone know what the coreutils docs are referring to when it
implies that sha512 hashes can be obtained with a command called
sha512sum in the same manner of usage as md5sum and sha1sum?
(i.e sha512sum file)


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Re: sha2 utilities: Print or check SHA-2 digests

2006-06-10 Thread rmyster

 
  Still, does anyone know what the coreutils docs are referring to when it
  implies that sha512 hashes can be obtained with a command called
  sha512sum in the same manner of usage as md5sum and sha1sum?
  (i.e sha512sum file)
 Maybe you could try to tell us what version of coreutils do you have
 installed and what OS are you using, we don't have a magic ball to ask.
 Two of your headers:
  X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.0
  Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 so I suppose you are using SuSE Linux, version 10.1 includes Evolution
 2.6.0. Incidentally I am using the same version of this nice
 distribution, I have coreutils-5.93 here and there is no trace of sha2
 support in documentation.
 
 However you should have noticed that this is not a linux mailing list.
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Yes, suse 10.1 with coreutils-5.93-20.  In the info manual, sha2 is
mentioned under section 6.6 (sha2 utilities) and all it says is 
The usage and options of these commands are precisely the same as for
`md5sum'.

While this isn't a linux mailing list, md5sum is part of gnupg.  The
closest other choice was the coreutils bug lists and this didn't seem
like a bug related question.  I'll take your hint and drop the topic.


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Re: sha2 utilities: Print or check SHA-2 digests

2006-06-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
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rmyster wrote:
 Yes, suse 10.1 with coreutils-5.93-20.  In the info manual, sha2 is
 mentioned under section 6.6 (sha2 utilities) and all it says is The
 usage and options of these commands are precisely the same as for
 `md5sum'.
 
 While this isn't a linux mailing list, md5sum is part of gnupg.

No, it's not.  md5sum is part of the coreutils package.  You're using
suse, which is an rpm based distro, so if I may extend the slightly
off-topic posts a little, here's a handy way for you to find out what
package a file belongs to:

$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/md5sum

On my FC5 system this returns coreutils-5.93-7.2.

 The closest other choice was the coreutils bug lists and this didn't
 seem like a bug related question.

How not?  If the docs state an application is available and it's not
it's a bug - either in the docs or in the packaging.  In any case, I
took a blind leap of faith and searched for the string sha2 on the
coreutils mailing list and the very first item returned[1] was titled:

Re: Not finding sha256sum

It's a documentation bug in coreutils.  Total time spent, 30 secs. :)

[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2005-12/msg00170.html

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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-10 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 04 June 2006 07:54, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
  On Saturday 03 June 2006 04:57, engage wrote:
  On Thursday 01 June 2006 08:59 pm, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 engage wrote:
  Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?
 
 It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.
 
 Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?
 
  No. I keep getting prompted for my passphrase for this message.
  Kmail.
 
  My KMail (1.9.x) shows the message without asking for a
  passhphrase. And I'm not aware of changes in this part of the code
  which would explain the different behavior. Strange.

 Ingo, are you using the gpg-agent?

Sure. Okay, that might explain the different behavior. In any case, 
KMail isn't fully functional without gpg-agent, e.g. you can't decrypt 
OpenPGP/MIME messages. So using KMail without gpg-agent is not 
recommended.

Regards,
Ingo


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