Re: [Announce] GnuPG 2.0.1 released

2006-11-30 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Two, actually. libgpg-error will not build unless I disable NLS. After
 that, libksba won't build at all.

Yes, know.  I have disabled NLS for my builds.  TO solve this problem
I will remove all included gettext implementations (intl/) for all
libraries and require that the system comes with suitable gettext
installation.  gettext should by now available on most platforms and
thus including it with each package is not anymore needed.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner


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Re: Importing my keys fails

2006-11-30 Thread Michael Erskine
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:33, Joseph Bruni wrote:
 An OpenSSH key is not an OpenPGP key. There are some efforts to use OpenPGP
 keys for SSH authentication, however.

Can they be somehow integrated or will I always need two (or more) sets of 
keys? Are the keys used by OpenSSH in themselves somehow less secure or is 
there something in their nature that means they can never be used by OpenPGP? 
My limited understanding was that symetric keys were just a pair of fancy 
numbers! :)

Regards,
Michael Erskine.

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Re: Importing my keys fails

2006-11-30 Thread Alphax
Michael Erskine wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:33, Joseph Bruni wrote:
 An OpenSSH key is not an OpenPGP key. There are some efforts to use OpenPGP
 keys for SSH authentication, however.
 
 Can they be somehow integrated or will I always need two (or more) sets of 
 keys? Are the keys used by OpenSSH in themselves somehow less secure or is 
 there something in their nature that means they can never be used by OpenPGP? 
 My limited understanding was that symetric keys were just a pair of fancy 
 numbers! :)
 

Since I can't be bothered explaining, here are some links that will do
it for me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
http://sixdemonbag.org/cryptofaq.html

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Re: Logo ballot reminder (HHH)

2006-11-30 Thread Henry Hertz Hobbit
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 09:41 -0700, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote:

SNIP

 No, I don't need an email, and yes I will vote, but not by GMT time.
 It is 4:41 PM GMT or 5:41 PM Berlin time, but only 9:41 AM here.
 Hey you set yourselves up.  I cite as legal precedent a decision by
 one of the judges that was on the circuit court system in the United
 States (Etas Unis).  They had a rule that they could not be drinking
 while cases were at court (no, not in the court dummy, after work)
 unless it was raining.  So he walked outside the inn and the sun was
 shining brightly with nary a cloud in sight.  He walked back in and
 gave his summation.  They all ordered drinks.  His summation?  It
 MUST be raining some place.  They didn't say WHERE it had to be
 raining. Who was the judge?  John Marshall.  The precedent is now
 set but not binding (court was not in session).  Here is a world
 time clock to help you know when we have ALL run out of November:
 
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
 

The John Marshall I am speaking of is THIS John Marshall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marshall

Be careful here.  If you are a strictly Shabbat observing Jew and
faithfully observe Shabbat every seventh day, starting from Israel
and slowly travel westward going all the way around the globe and
end your trip back where you started you will be observing Shabbat
one day later than everybody else.  If you go eastward, you will
be observing Shabbat one day earlier than everybody else.  If it
wasn't for that line in the Pacific we would have a LOT of problems.
It does make for some problems as you cross it because you sometimes
have to change what day it is.  If you cross it a lot you begin
to use GMT time ALL the time instead (called Zulu time by some).

The time to close the voting is 1 Dec. 2006, 12:00 GMT (noon).  That
will be 1 Dec. 2006, 07:00 AM at Carnegie Mellon.

I am sitting here and being very judicious about looking VERY
carefully at all of the submissions. That means this court IS in
session and since I am judging all of the submissions that makes
me a sitting judge in the performance of his duties.  That means
that this decision can now be cited as a precedent.  Unfortunately,
I am not the Chief Judge, nor do I know if I am in the minority.
If I am in the minority, consider this a dissenting opinion.

Judge Henry Hertz Hobbit



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Re: Logo ballot reminder (Andrew Berg)

2006-11-30 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

[...]

And the executive summary is?

 not at Greenwich.  Hey you didn't specify it was to be GMT, er, UTC
 time or any other time zone:

 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.gnupg.users/11076

Unless otherwise note UTC is used.

However, I don't know whether CIVS uses local time.  Anyway you will
then have a couple of hours more.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner


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Re: [Announce] GnuPG 2.0.1 released

2006-11-30 Thread reynt0
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
 . . .
 When I get time, I will prepare a packaged up version for MacOS which
 will be available through the mac-gpg project.

May one ask, is there any chance there will be such a
packaged version for OS10.3.x as well as for 10.4.x?
Presently, the very helpful mac-gpg project has gnupg
1.4.5 only for OS10.4; for OS10.3 is provided only the
less secure gnupg 1.4.1.  The uncontrolled outgoing
information flow required by the OS10.4 EULA
http://www.eulascan.com/product.aspx?pid=22 makes using
OS10.4 undesirable.

I guess the same question applies to the gnupg 1.4.6 being
worked on now.

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Re: Importing my keys fails

2006-11-30 Thread Joseph Oreste Bruni


On Nov 30, 2006, at 6:23 AM, Michael Erskine wrote:




My limited understanding was that symetric keys were just a pair
of fancy numbers! :)


Sorry, I meant asymmetric keys of course :)

Regards,
Michael Erskine.




The keys themselves are similar at a basic level. But the packaging  
and data file formats are not interoperable. An SSH key file is not  
much more than the key, but an OpenPGP key also contains elements of  
identity such as email addresses, etc. as well as signatures from  
other users.


With some work, you could probably extract the RSA key data from the  
PGP key and convert it to the format used for OpenSSH, but honestly  
it isn't work the trouble.


There is also some effort to make OpenPGP and X.509 certificates  
somewhat interoperable since they have more in common in both content  
and purpose.


Someday there might be a grand unification of all things PKI, but I'm  
not holding my breath.





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Re: Logo ballot reminder

2006-11-30 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:21:20PM -0500, Andrew Myers wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 CIVS originally sent text/plain emails. But it was useful to be able to 
 embed links and to preserve election description formatting. The HTML it 
 sends is pretty minimal -- I don't think it should set off reasonable 
 spam filters. 

It certainly was enough to make my brain register it as unreadable, I
only went back to it when Warner mentioned the deadline again.
Looking at it now I agree it is rather minimal as far as html goes, but
it's still not something I'd willingly read as email (had to spawn a
browser to look at it).

 At least, I haven't heard this complaint before. Making 
 HTML mail an option seems like a good idea, though there are already too 
 many options for my taste. If someone wants to write that patch I'd be 
 happy to include it.

I had a look at the code, but unfortunately I'm not much of a perl
coder. I'm sure there others on this list who can do a better job than
I can.

 I hope the election system has been working well for everyone otherwise.

The system was fairly easy to use, the hardest part was deciding how the
various entries ranked :)

Wouter van Heyst


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Re: Logo ballot reminder

2006-11-30 Thread Todd Zullinger
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Wouter van Heyst wrote:
 It certainly was enough to make my brain register it as unreadable,
 I only went back to it when Warner mentioned the deadline again.
 Looking at it now I agree it is rather minimal as far as html goes,
 but it's still not something I'd willingly read as email (had to
 spawn a browser to look at it).

Egad, open a browser for that?  :)

I just have mutt dump html only messages through w3m -dump and display
the text.  That's after my other filters weed out the really obvious
trash and spam.  And then only for messages that are HTML only.  If
they are multipart alternative I prefer the text/plain part.

Until it was mentioned here I hadn't noticed that the message was HTML
only actually.

 The system was fairly easy to use, the hardest part was deciding how
 the various entries ranked :)

I'll second that.  :)

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Re: Logo ballot reminder

2006-11-30 Thread Alphax
Wouter van Heyst wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:21:20PM -0500, Andrew Myers wrote:
snip
 I hope the election system has been working well for everyone otherwise.
 
 The system was fairly easy to use, the hardest part was deciding how the
 various entries ranked :)
 

I saw something weird where moving entries around didn't preserve the
order that you had put things in... I ended up writing out all the
option numbers on scraps of paper and shuffling them around until they
were in the order I wanted :)

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