GnuPG and PGP 5.0 compatibility problem

2007-07-17 Thread Stefan Oltmanns
Hello,

I got a problem with GnuPG and PGP 5.0:
Also PGP 5 accepts my key, it is not possible for PGP 5 to encrypt with 
my key. It´s not even displayed in the selection dialog when I try to 
encrypt something (it shows identities correct in key list (but 
expiration not)).

I read in the FAQ that PGP 5.0 does not accept ElGamal keys of type 20, 
but my key doesn´t seem to be of that type (--list-packets says version 
4, algo 16, created 1153340019, expires 0)

There seem to be another problem, do you have any idea how to solve it?

In case you´re wondering, I do have PGP only for testing purpose, 
because I can´t get EUMEL of the 1822direkt bank (a system that sends 
you a OpenPGP encrypted mail with financial transactions on your 
account) to work, they use PGP 5.0.

Sincerely,
Stefan

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Re: Openpgp card serial numbers

2007-07-17 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 The specification for Openpgp card states that the serial number
 (+ manufacturers ID) must be globally unique. I wonder if this is truly
 needed or if unique enough would be ok.

I have assigned the unmanaged S/N range:

  FF00..FFFE - Range reserved for randomly assigned serial numbers.
 Serialnumbers with manufacturer ID in this range are an
 exception to the rule that they should be unique.  It is
 expected that such a serialnumber is assigned using a true
 random function which generates 5 bytes (4 for the actual
 serial number and one to select a manufacturer ID out of this
 range). Note, that the 0x is not part of this range.
 Implementers using serial numbers as a unique ID should keep in
 mind that duplicates may happen.  Using the of manufacturer IDs
 out of this range should only be done if no other way of
 obtaining a manufacturer ID is possible.
 [Assigned 2007-07-17] 
  
I hope this satisfies your need.  As written, it is an expection and
should be avoided.  In particular, if you target one specific card type
it might be possible to use its native S/N and map it to a a proper
serial number.  We can then ask for a manufacturer ID to be used with
this card and application.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner


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openpgp card sharing violation

2007-07-17 Thread Tristan Williams
Hi,

I have started to get these errors when trying to use my openpgp card.

g4dual:~ tw$ gpg --card-status
gpg: detected reader `OMNIKEY CardMan 3121 0 0'
gpg: pcsc_connect failed: sharing violation (0x801b)
gpg: card reader not available
gpg: OpenPGP card not available: general error

They do not happen all the time, but always when the machine has just
booted up. Removing and replacing the card in the reader often
persuades the set up to work. I have tried it with my other scmart
card reader SCR335 and get the same. Also with various gpg from 1.42 up.

This started to occur after I moved to a dual cpu machine - I can't
ever having had it on my old machine. 

Any wisdom gratefully received.

Kind regards

Tristan Williams 

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Re: GnuPG and PGP 5.0 compatibility problem

2007-07-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
 I got a problem with GnuPG and PGP 5.0:

PGP 5.0 substantially predates RFC2440, the IETF standard which GnuPG  
implements.  In fact, GnuPG doesn't even have a PGP 5 compatibility  
mode.  (It has --pgp6, --pgp7 and --pgp8, but nothing for PGP 5.)

PGP 5.0 is very, _very_ out of date.  Please consider upgrading to  
something more recent and standards-conformant.

 In case you´re wondering, I do have PGP only for testing purpose,
 because I can´t get EUMEL of the 1822direkt bank (a system that sends
 you a OpenPGP encrypted mail with financial transactions on your
 account) to work, they use PGP 5.0.

To me, this would cause me to doubt whether I wanted them to have my  
financial information at all.

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Most people are never thought about after they're gone.  'I wonder
where Rob got the plutonium?' is better than most get. -- Phil Munson




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Re: where i can download gpgsm?

2007-07-17 Thread redstar
the dragon ceprn at hotmail.com writes:

 
 google is your friend.
 
 I'd look here
 
 http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/gpgsm
 
 peace,
 clark 'the dragon' willis

thanks but where is official site of gpgsm downloads? its made by werner koch
right or its debian application???


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Re: GnuPG and PGP 5.0 compatibility problem

2007-07-17 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 10:42:37PM +0200, Stefan Oltmanns wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I got a problem with GnuPG and PGP 5.0:
 Also PGP 5 accepts my key, it is not possible for PGP 5 to encrypt with 
 my key. It´s not even displayed in the selection dialog when I try to 
 encrypt something (it shows identities correct in key list (but 
 expiration not)).
 
 I read in the FAQ that PGP 5.0 does not accept ElGamal keys of type 20, 
 but my key doesn´t seem to be of that type (--list-packets says version 
 4, algo 16, created 1153340019, expires 0)
 
 There seem to be another problem, do you have any idea how to solve it?

We'd have to track down what the problem was first.  Understand that
PGP 5.0 predates the OpenPGP standard that modern PGP and GnuPG use by
quite a while.  It's not massively insecure (though there were some
bugs reported), but it just doesn't follow the same rule book as
everyone else.

The usual PGP 5 behavior when it doesn't understand something is to
ignore it, as you saw.

David

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Re: where i can download gpgsm?

2007-07-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
redstar wrote:
 thanks but where is official site of gpgsm downloads? its made by
 werner koch right or its debian application???

No, it's not a Debian app.

See http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/download/index.html

GnuPG 2.0

GnuPG 2.0 is the new modularized version of GnuPG supporting OpenPGP
and S/MIME

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Re: GnuPG and PGP 5.0 compatibility problem

2007-07-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
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Stefan wrote:
 But that doesn´t mean PGP 5 is insecure in any way, it´s just outdated
 and not RFC2440 conform, right?

GnuPG is an RFC2440-conformant application.

PGP 5.0 is not RFC2440-conformant.  It far predates RFC2440.  The two
applications do not work together well.

That's not to say they can't be finessed into working together.  They
clearly can be.  However, I would not trust my financial data to a
communications system that was built of parts that did not interoperate
well.

That said, your security model is your own lookout.
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Re: where i can download gpgsm?

2007-07-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
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redstar wrote:
 thanks but where is official site of gpgsm downloads? its made by werner koch
 right or its debian application???

Authenticate the source code, not the site you're downloading it from.
Check to make sure the source code is signed by someone you trust
(whether it be the Debian project, wk, or someone else).  If it is, and
the signature is valid, then use it with confidence.

That said, I don't think gpgsm has an official site.  It was, IIRC,
part of Project Ägypten, which has since been supplanted by Ägypten2.

Try:

http://www.gnupg.org/aegypten2/index.html

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Re: Pin fails with svn ssh gnupg-agent smartcard.

2007-07-17 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 05:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

   - poldi's documentation is rather hard to find on the web. For now, I
 found it only in the source of the poldi, and in the the source itself
 was not that easy to find. It's here:

Ahh, you are using Poldi.  I was not aware of that as it opens another
case of potential problems.

   - in gpg-agent.conf, the line write-env-file
 /home/tyrael/.gpg-agent-info may perhaps work on Ubuntu, but on my
 Debian distribution, with a rather standard setup, this file looks more
 like ~/.gnupg/.gpg-agent-info-hostname.

This is distribution specific.  You should find a note about this in the
README.Debian file.

   - there's a confusion between the documentation of poldi and the
 output of gpg --card-status concerning the expressions serial number
 and application ID. The wording should be consistent in order to avoid
 confusion.

Poldi is not yet that matured

 Glad to have it working and stable,

Good to hear.


Shalom-Salam,

   Werner


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Re: openpgp card sharing violation

2007-07-17 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 booted up. Removing and replacing the card in the reader often
 persuades the set up to work. I have tried it with my other scmart
 card reader SCR335 and get the same. Also with various gpg from 1.42 up.

Is there some background process running gpg too?  Is gpg-agent
installed or a PAM wwith card support?

Or a pcscd problem?  Disable pcscd and setup gpg so that it can use its
internal ccid driver.  Basically setup permissions in the USB file
system


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner




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Re: where i can download gpgsm?

2007-07-17 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 That said, I don't think gpgsm has an official site.  It was, IIRC,
 part of Project Ägypten, which has since been supplanted by Ägypten2.

Let me add that gpgsm is just one module from GnuPG2.  Much like rmail
and mailq are parts of sendmail.  

It does not make sense to distribute gpgsm alone.  Debian has only
splitted GnuPG2 up into several binary packages whereas the source
package for all of them is gnupg2.


Shalom-Salam,

   Werner


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Re: where i can download gpgsm?

2007-07-17 Thread redstar
Werner Koch wk at gnupg.org writes:

 
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:57, rjh at sixdemonbag.org said:
 
  That said, I don't think gpgsm has an official site.  It was, IIRC,
  part of Project Ägypten, which has since been supplanted by Ägypten2.
 
 Let me add that gpgsm is just one module from GnuPG2.  Much like rmail
 and mailq are parts of sendmail.  
 
 It does not make sense to distribute gpgsm alone.  Debian has only
 splitted GnuPG2 up into several binary packages whereas the source
 package for all of them is gnupg2.
 
 Shalom-Salam,
 
Werner

thanks Todd and Robert and Werneri didnt realize it, gpgsm is part of
gnupg2!! now i see why, i cant find this module on gpg downloads site! i will
try to build this application of gnupg2 thanks everybody.


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gpg2 for windows?

2007-07-17 Thread Jørgen Christiansen Lysdal
Hi,
Are there any plans to provide a gpg2 installer for windows?
as i am not interested in using the gpg4win package.

In particular, does anyone know why the gpg4win gpg builds
does not come with bzip2 support?

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