Re: Top-posting

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Friday, April 29, 2016 a las 03:25:10PM +1000, Ben McGinnes escribió:

> I don't have an answer for all smartphone and tablet users (other than
> the sensible ones who will SSH from their phone into another system
> and use Mutt or some other CLI MUA), but for the iPhone and iPad users
> I did find this solution from John Gruber (the guy who invented
> Markdown):

I have mutt+vim on my Ubuntu mobile phone 
https://www.gitbook.com/book/gurucubano/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/details

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Re: making a Debian Live CD for managing GnuPG master key and smartcards

[Paul R. Ramer]

On 04/26/2016 05:24 AM, Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Daniel Pocock  wrote:
>> You can use the wiki to link to the Github tasks that are relevant to
>> using epgp in the Live CD, you don't have to copy the details of each
>> task, just link to them
>>
> 
> It doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Honestly, what is with this, "It doesn't seem reasonable to me," line?
This is the second post in the thread where you have said this.  If you
want people to react positively to the needs of your project, you might
choose not to say things like, "I don't want to...," and, "It doesn't
seem reasonable to me."

You already know that there seems to be a consensus that your project is
not a solution to any problem. [1] You effectively ask for help, and yet
when someone tells you how you can make a Debian package, which is an
issue on your development website [2], you say that you don't want to do
it because it "doesn't seem reasonable."

You can't have it both ways.  You are either engaging, communicative,
reasonable, and compromising, or you are not.  But don't expect anyone
to help you when reject their ideas out of turn.

You asked for help on smartcards recently because you don't have any
readers or cards.  I am not sure whether your project is useful or not,
but I had considered giving you some assistance since I have multiple
readers and cards.  I might help you out when I had some free time just
because you asked for it, I thought.  But your inflexible, and sometimes
irreverent, attitude has soured my intention.

All right.  The rant is over.

-Paul

[1] Not my opinion.  It is just based on reading the responses to your
project on this list.
[2] https://github.com/dashohoxha/egpg/issues/19

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Re: Top-posting

[Paul R. Ramer]

On 04/28/2016 02:49 AM, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
> However, you can move around with keyboard even in "modern" mua. When
> using normal keyboards I think you are exagerating a bit. The problem
> is indeed annoying with limited keyboards, though.

Personally, I would rather not have to hit the "Page Down" button
*every* time I wrote an email (provided I have full-size keyboard).  If
you are always varying from the defaults in a consistent way, then the
defaults need to be different.  Besides, think of the cumulative time
wasted scrolling or paging down for every you write email. ;-) [1]

Cheers,

-Paul

[1] https://xkcd.com/1205/

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Re: Top-posting

[Michael A. Yetto]

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:02:30 +0200
Paolo Bolzoni  wrote:

>I think this text (or variants) are old as email itself and
>actually, while funny, makes little sense.
>

It makes quite a bit of sense when you are dragged into a thread
that has gone on for a while.

>When you follow an email thread you do not read everything, you
>just read the new email and it makes little difference if it is
>in the top. Besides most email clients actually put an
>indentation in the quoted text so it should look like:
>

You do if you must figure out what the problem is that the wrong
people have been discussing for a week.

Go to the bottom of the message.

Backup to the start of the oldest part not yet read.

Read that part till you get to the end of what you have
previously read.

Backup to the start of the oldest part not yet read.

Read that part till you get to the end of what you have
previously read.

Lather, rinse, repeat.


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Re: Top-posting

[James Moe]

On 04/28/2016 02:02 AM, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
> I agree that
> is much better (A) to trim and answers to single points or (B) simply
> make a clean email.
>
  In that spirit I offer this rant:

Trim your posts!

There is no need for a complete history of every bit of text in 14
previous posts including "On such date somebody wrote" headers, every
respondent's signature, and every listserv trailer.

I realize many of you use smartphones and tablets and Googlegroups, and
direct experience has shown that it is unreasonably difficult to select
and delete text. Nevertheless, please make the effort.

I also realize that your response is very profound and that it is
important to get it posted as quickly as possible. However, you greatly
inconvenience the readers (for instance, me) of said profundity with all
of the extraneous text you leave in your posting making it a challenge
to even find the response.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?


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Re: Top-posting

[Daniel Villarreal]

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El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 02:28:56PM +0200, Guan Xin escribi
ó:
>> 
Your feeling is basically wrong.
>> 
> 
Here comes the proofing example you asked for:

https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg20309.html

Someone put on top of some mails a question which has nothing todo with
the problems the other posters have faced.

HIH
matthias
> 

Es ist mir egal... I don't really care about top- or bottom-posting,
but I suppose it's more polite/proper to bottom post.
I care more about editing and content.

I often quote differently anyway...

MfG,
Daniel

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Re: Website typo fixes

[Werner Koch]

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 21:10, pe...@digitalbrains.com said:
> I saw some typo's in libraries.org on the website. Seizing the occasion, I'm
> also resending an older typo fix that either fell through the cracks or was
> silently rejected.

Thanks.  Both applied to the repo.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner


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Re: Website usability issue

[Thomas Pircher]

On 2016-04-28 19:36, Werner Koch wrote:

Neither me, thus it is not easy to debug.  However, I noticed it some
time ago at someone else browser.


I can see this too (FF 45.0.2 on Debian testing).
But if you change the top: value in for the "nav ul li:hover 
ul.sub-menu" selector in your CSS file from 39px to 37px, then the 
problem disappears for me. I'm not a web designer, so I'm not sure this 
is the 'proper' fix for the gap.


Cheers
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[PATCH] Fix typo's in whats-new-in-2.1.org

[Peter Lebbing]

---
 web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org | 14 +++---
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org b/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org
index 179b075..c1e6d09 100644
--- a/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org
+++ b/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org
@@ -376,7 +376,7 @@ pub  rsa2048/BD19AC1C
 
 In case the key has already been signed, the command prints a note and
 exits with success.  In case you want to check that it really worked,
-use ==--check-sigs= as usual:
+use =--check-sigs= as usual:
 
 #+begin_example
 $ gpg2 --check-sigs  '15CB 723E 2000 A1A8 2505  F3B7 CC00 B501 BD19 AC1C'
@@ -515,13 +515,13 @@ For load balancing reasons, keyservers are organized in 
pools to
 enable instant round-robin DNS assignment of random keyservers.  A
 problem with that approach is that the DNS resolver is not aware of
 the state of the keyserver.  If a keyserver has gone down or a routing
-problems occurs, /gpg/ and its keyserver helpers were not ware of it
+problems occurs, /gpg/ and its keyserver helpers were not aware of it
 and would try over and over to use the same, dead, keyserver up until
 the DNS information expires and a the DNS resolver assigned a new
 server from the pool.
 
 The new /dirmngr/ in GnuPG does not use the implicit round-robin of
-the DNS resolver but uses its own DNS look up and keeps an internal
+the DNS resolver but uses its own DNS lookup and keeps an internal
 table of all hosts from the pool along with the encountered aliveness
 state.  Thus after a failure (timeout) of a request, /dirmngr/ flags a
 host as dead and randomly selects another one from the pool.  After a
@@ -607,12 +607,12 @@ revocation certificate are put at the top of the file.
 :END:
 
 The /scdaemon/, which is responsible for accessing smardcards and
-other tokens, has received many updates.  In particular plugable USB
+other tokens, has received many updates.  In particular pluggable USB
 readers with a fixed card now work smoothless and similar to standard
 readers.  The latest features of the [[http://www.fsij.org/doc-gnuk/][gnuk]] 
token are supported.  Code
 for the SmartCard-HSM has been added.  More card readers with a PIN
 pad are supported.  The internal CCID driver does now also work with
-certain non-auto configuration equipped readers.
+certain non-auto-configuration equipped readers.
 
 ** New format for key listings
 :PROPERTIES:
@@ -643,7 +643,7 @@ that is =show-uid-validity= is implicitly used for the
 
 The annotated key listing produced by the =--with-colons= options did
 not change.  However a couple of new fields have been added, for
-example if the new option =--with-secret-= is used the “S/N of a token
+example if the new option =--with-secret= is used the “S/N of a token
 field” indicates the presence of a secret key even in a public key
 listing.  This option is supported by recent 
[[https://gnupg.org/related_software/gpgme/][GPGME]] versions and makes
 writing of key manager software easier.
@@ -682,7 +682,7 @@ menu of /gpgsm/.
 In batch mode the certificate creation dialog can now be controlled by
 a parameter file with several new keywords.  Such a parameter file
 allows the creation of arbitrary X.509 certificates similar to what
-can be done with /openssl/.  It may this be used as the base for a CA
+can be done with /openssl/.  It may thus be used as the base for a CA
 software.  For details see the “CSR and certificate creation” section
 in the manual.
 
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[PATCH] Fix typo's in libraries.org

[Peter Lebbing]

---
 web/related_software/libraries.org | 6 +++---
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/web/related_software/libraries.org 
b/web/related_software/libraries.org
index 2a5cc8d..6c963d0 100644
--- a/web/related_software/libraries.org
+++ b/web/related_software/libraries.org
@@ -12,10 +12,10 @@
 
 ** Libraries required to build GnuPG
 
-  The libraries are requred to build currenrt GnUPG versions but may
-  also be used on its onw.  They are maintained by the GnuPG Project.
+  The libraries are required to build current GnuPG versions but may
+  also be used on their own.  They are maintained by the GnuPG Project.
 
-   -  [[file:libgpg-error/index.org][Libgpg-error]] :: Libgpg-error is helper 
library used by a couple
+   -  [[file:libgpg-error/index.org][Libgpg-error]] :: Libgpg-error is a 
helper library used by a couple
   of other projects to provide a common set of
   error codes and descriptions.
-  [[file:libgcrypt/index.org][Libgcrypt]] :: Libgcrypt is a general 
purpose cryptographic
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Website typo fixes

[Peter Lebbing]

I saw some typo's in libraries.org on the website. Seizing the occasion, I'm
also resending an older typo fix that either fell through the cracks or was
silently rejected.

I hope I'm using git-send-email right... I hardly ever use it.

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Re: Website usability issue

[Werner Koch]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:48, philip.jack...@nordnet.fr said:

> Iceweasel 38.7.1esr-1-deb8u1) with touchpad.  But I don't see the
> problem you outline with the dropdown menus on gnupg.org (at least I
> presume you are writing about gnupg.org ?).

Neither me, thus it is not easy to debug.  However, I noticed it some
time ago at someone else browser.  There should be no gap but I assume
that rounding issues may lead to the problems.

As a workaround Peter can click on the top menu to open the main page
of that pull down menu, and then use the secondary menu to select the
actual page.


Shalom-Salam,

   Werner

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Re: Evangelzation discussion

[Werner Koch]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:31, pe...@digitalbrains.com said:

> Yes, I think it would be better if stuff like GPGME, libassuan,
> libgcrypt, libgpg-error, libksba and pinentry got their own category on
> the website rather than being a peer to the other stuff in related
> software...

I changed this library page a bit to better address your issues.

> While "related software" is a large list, I don't think it's meant to be
> exhaustive. I'm also not sure what the qualifications are to be
> considered for being added (other than being free software). I think
> this is done informally, on an ad-hoc basis.

Right, just write or even better add a bug report (gpgweb/whish).


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   Werner

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Re: Top-posting

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 02:28:56PM +0200, Guan Xin escribió:

> Your feeling is basically wrong.

Here comes the proofing example you asked for:

https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg20309.html

Someone put on top of some mails a question which has nothing todo with
the problems the other posters have faced.

HIH

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Re: Top-posting

[Guan Xin]

This post is an example to prove that your feeling is wrong.

Show your examples now.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 11:02:30AM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni
> escribió:
>
> I have the feeling (and even could proof this with examples) that top
> posters do not even read about what they are posting on top of. They just
> want to say something, sometimes useless, because it is already
> said/answered a few lines down).
> //snip
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Re: Top-posting

[Guan Xin]

Your feeling is basically wrong.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 11:02:30AM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni
> escribió:
>
> I have the feeling (and even could proof this with examples) that top
> posters do not even read about what they are posting on top of. They just
> want to say something, sometimes useless, because it is already
> said/answered a few lines down).
>
> //snip
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Re: gpg and smartcard on ubuntu 16.04

[Peter Lebbing]

On 28/04/16 12:45, Peter Lebbing wrote:
> Perhaps you could just add the gpg-connect-agent call to the
> if-ssh-support conditional, and it would be purrfect. I will try that
> now and see if everything stays peachy.

At a first glance, it seems to work with the attached version. On a cold
boot, the agent is running and listening for SSH when I login. When I
unlock a smartcard with the PIN, logout, and log back in, the smartcard
is still unlocked (and the original agent running). While this may not
be very expected, it is not related to logging *in* but rather to
logging *out*, in my opinion. I don't readily know how to do something
on logout.

HTH,

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SSH_AUTH_SOCK="${GNUPGHOME}/S.gpg-agent.ssh"
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gpg-connect-agent /bye
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Re: Top-posting

[Andrew Gallagher]

On 28/04/16 10:26, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> Speaking more technically, the problem is that 'modern' MUA, like
> OutLook crap, thunderbird or other browser-like MUA do not invite to
> post and quote correctly. They put the cursor above the first line
> (sometimes you can not even configure this, and also not the correct
> citation with '> ')

Thunderbird bottom-posts by default.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/reply-above-or-below-quoted-text

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Re: gpg and smartcard on ubuntu 16.04

[Peter Lebbing]

On 28/04/16 02:23, NIIBE Yutaka wrote:
> In my environment of Debian, those variables are set by:
> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent

After I installed GnuPG 2.1 on my Debian Jessie (which doesn't have 2.1
itself), I encountered annoying issues. I also use smartcards, for SSH
auth as well. I got it to run much smoother by editing this file to be
the attached file. It did have a gotcha: if there isn't an agent
running, you have to do something like:

$ gpg-connect-agent /bye

before you can do SSH auth. Note that the agent survives a logout/login.

I got the impression that the explicit starting of the daemon in the
startup script somehow messed something up. But I had some trouble
pinning down the exact problem, and since it now works in a way that
works for me, I left it at this.

Perhaps you could just add the gpg-connect-agent call to the
if-ssh-support conditional, and it would be purrfect. I will try that
now and see if everything stays peachy.

HTH,

Peter.

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Re: Top-posting

[Andrew Gallagher]

On 28/04/16 11:07, Jerry wrote:
> 
> I use "claws-mail" and all I have to do is highlight the text I want to
> reply to. 
...
> I don't use "Thunderbird" so I cannot comment on its
> features or deficiencies.

Thunderbird has exactly the same feature.

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Re: Top-posting

[Jerry]

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:26:52 +0200, Matthias Apitz stated:

>Speaking more technically, the problem is that 'modern' MUA, like
>OutLook crap, thunderbird or other browser-like MUA do not invite to
>post and quote correctly. They put the cursor above the first line
>(sometimes you can not even configure this, and also not the correct
>citation with '> ') and they do not provide the required
>tools/commands to trim the old text, i.e. for example delete 150 lines
>with just saying '150dd' or '.,$-20d' or others. In these 'modern' MUA
>you must carefully place the cursor with the mouse, highlight even
>more carefully the text you want to delete, and doing this with the
>limitation of a smartphone is really a PITA.

I use "claws-mail" and all I have to do is highlight the text I want to
reply to. If there is something I still want to eliminate, I just
highlight it and delete it. Now. if I had to start counting
characters, lines, etcetera and entering cryptic code to remove said
items, that would be a PITA. I rarely use a smart phone to respond to
an email. And if I do, I have discovered that it is possible to delete
unnecessary text AND position the new text at the bottom of the
message.

By the way, I have also discovered that you can do the exact same thing
in MS Outlook. I don't use "Thunderbird" so I cannot comment on its
features or deficiencies.

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Re: Top-posting

[Paolo Bolzoni]

> Speaking more technically, the problem is that 'modern' MUA, like
> OutLook crap, thunderbird or other browser-like MUA do not invite to
> post and quote correctly. They put the cursor above the first line
> (sometimes you can not even configure this, and also not the correct
> citation with '> ') and they do not provide the required tools/commands to 
> trim
> the old text, i.e. for example delete 150 lines with just saying '150dd'
> or '.,$-20d' or others. In these 'modern' MUA you must carefully place
> the cursor with the mouse, highlight even more carefully the text you
> want to delete, and doing this with the limitation of a smartphone is
> really a PITA.

The modern editors are indeed part of the problem. Don't get me wrong,
I am all for fancy screens, pleasant colors, GUIs, and modernity. But
what I do not understand why break down and remove what it does work
already.  Another example that sometime drive me crazy is the lack of
regular expressions in "Search" functions.

However, you can move around with keyboard even in "modern" mua. When
using normal keyboards I think you are exagerating a bit. The problem
is indeed annoying with limited keyboards, though.

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Re: Top-posting

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 11:02:30AM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni escribió:

> I think this text (or variants) are old as email itself and actually,
> while funny, makes little sense.
> 
> When you follow an email thread you do not read everything, you just
> read the new email and it makes little difference if it is in the top.
> Besides most email clients actually put an indentation in the quoted
> text so it should look like:

I have the feeling (and even could proof this with examples) that top
posters do not even read about what they are posting on top of. They just
want to say something, sometimes useless, because it is already
said/answered a few lines down).

Speaking more technically, the problem is that 'modern' MUA, like
OutLook crap, thunderbird or other browser-like MUA do not invite to
post and quote correctly. They put the cursor above the first line
(sometimes you can not even configure this, and also not the correct
citation with '> ') and they do not provide the required tools/commands to trim
the old text, i.e. for example delete 150 lines with just saying '150dd'
or '.,$-20d' or others. In these 'modern' MUA you must carefully place
the cursor with the mouse, highlight even more carefully the text you
want to delete, and doing this with the limitation of a smartphone is
really a PITA.

That's why I do prefer 'mutt' and 'vim'.

matthias

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Re: Top-posting

[Paolo Bolzoni]

I think this text (or variants) are old as email itself and actually,
while funny, makes little sense.

When you follow an email thread you do not read everything, you just
read the new email and it makes little difference if it is in the top.
Besides most email clients actually put an indentation in the quoted
text so it should look like:

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>> A: Top-posting.
>>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

That with one-liners looks strange, but it makes clear with long texts.

However, I agree there is not need to keep clutter in the bottom of emails.
So while I still don't see the big deal with top-posting. I agree that
is much better (A) to trim and answers to single points or (B) simply
make a clean email.

Cheers,
Paolo

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Re: Is there a foolproof tutorial to start with gpgme?

[Johannes Zarl-Zierl]

On Tuesday 26 April 2016 12:44:44 Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> Please note: since CMake doesn't have a plugin (yet) to automatically
> detect GPGME

The usual way is for a library to provide a PackageConfig.cmake file. The old-
style FindPackage.cmake "plugins" are very much deprecated and it's hard to 
convince cmake maintainers to accept a new one...

That being said, it shouldn't be too hard to create a working gpgme-
config.cmake file using autotools

  Johannes

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Re: Top-posting

[mick crane]

even shorter,

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



On 2016-04-28 08:20, Werner Koch wrote:

Everyone is going to steal this.


FWIW: Perry E. Metzger gives this shorter version for many years:

A3: Please.
Q3: Should I avoid top posting on this mailing list?

A2: Because, by reversing the order of a conversation, it leaves the
reader without much context, and makes them read a message in an
unnatural order.
Q2: Why is top posting irritating?

A1: It is the practice of putting your reply to a message before the
quoted message, instead of after the (trimmed) message.
Q1: What is top posting?



Shalom-Salam,

   Werner


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Re: Req: 64-bit GnuPG/GPGME for Windows

[Werner Koch]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:41, r...@sixdemonbag.org said:

> Besides my contract requiring 64-bit deliverables?  :)  A 32-bit GnuPG

Then let's have a sub-contract :-)

> standalone executable is okay, but my code needs to be 64-bit, which
> means a 64-bit GPGME DLL.

GPGME does currently not receive the attention it deserves.  We will
again start working on it in the not too far future.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner

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Re: Querying gpg-agent configuration options

[Werner Koch]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:02, eric.pru...@gmail.com said:

> query the information from gpg-agent, it parses the configuration files
> which is not what I need. Am I missing something? If it matters, the

It parses the configuration files and also consults gpg-agent to test
which are options are enabled for use by gpgconf and what are the
current values.  To do this gpgconf uses the special gpg-agent option
'--gpgconf-list'.  This usuallay returns the correct values, unless
gpg-agent has not ben restarted after a gpg-agent.cof chnage or command
line options are used.

> version of gpgconf / GPG I'm using is 2.0.14.

If really required we could add an Assuan command to return certain
values similar to "gpg-connect-agent 'help getinfo' /bye".  But before
adding such an option I would like to learn why you need this.


Shalom-Salam,

   Werner

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Re: Top-posting

[Werner Koch]

> Everyone is going to steal this.

FWIW: Perry E. Metzger gives this shorter version for many years:

A3: Please.
Q3: Should I avoid top posting on this mailing list?

A2: Because, by reversing the order of a conversation, it leaves the
reader without much context, and makes them read a message in an
unnatural order.
Q2: Why is top posting irritating?

A1: It is the practice of putting your reply to a message before the
quoted message, instead of after the (trimmed) message.
Q1: What is top posting?



Shalom-Salam,

   Werner

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