Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-10 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 04 June 2006 07:54, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
  On Saturday 03 June 2006 04:57, engage wrote:
  On Thursday 01 June 2006 08:59 pm, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 engage wrote:
  Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?
 
 It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.
 
 Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?
 
  No. I keep getting prompted for my passphrase for this message.
  Kmail.
 
  My KMail (1.9.x) shows the message without asking for a
  passhphrase. And I'm not aware of changes in this part of the code
  which would explain the different behavior. Strange.

 Ingo, are you using the gpg-agent?

Sure. Okay, that might explain the different behavior. In any case, 
KMail isn't fully functional without gpg-agent, e.g. you can't decrypt 
OpenPGP/MIME messages. So using KMail without gpg-agent is not 
recommended.

Regards,
Ingo


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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-03 Thread Todd Zullinger
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engage wrote:
 On Thursday 01 June 2006 08:59 pm, Todd Zullinger wrote:
engage wrote:
 Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?

It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.

Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?
 
 No. I keep getting prompted for my passphrase for this message.
 Kmail.

Just hit enter.  There isn't any encryption, but the message is
armored and as others have pointed out, email software often just
assumes any pgp chunk that begins with BEGIN PGP MESSAGE is
encrypted and asks for a passphrase to pass on to gpg.  I've used mutt
with gpg-agent for years now and have grown accustomed to not having
that prompt unless a passphrase was truly required.  :)

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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-03 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Saturday 03 June 2006 04:57, engage wrote:
 On Thursday 01 June 2006 08:59 pm, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 engage wrote:
  Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?
 
 It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.
 
 Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?

 No. I keep getting prompted for my passphrase for this message.
 Kmail.

My KMail (1.9.x) shows the message without asking for a passhphrase. And 
I'm not aware of changes in this part of the code which would explain 
the different behavior. Strange.

Regards,
Ingo


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Re[2]: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-03 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Ingo,

Saturday, June 3, 2006, 9:19:36 PM, you wrote:

 On Saturday 03 June 2006 04:57, engage wrote:
 On Thursday 01 June 2006 08:59 pm, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 engage wrote:
  Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?
 
 It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.
 
 Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?

 No. I keep getting prompted for my passphrase for this message.
 Kmail.

 My KMail (1.9.x) shows the message without asking for a passhphrase. And
 I'm not aware of changes in this part of the code which would explain 
 the different behavior. Strange.

I am using TheBat! and may having the same problem, except I have to
try and get the signers key which I cannot so cannot read the mail(s)

-- 
Sean
... The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is at all 
comprehensible. - Albert Einstein
Strange things happen under the midnight sun
when Men and Dogs go hunting for gold

To get my public GPG key send me an email with the
Subject of GET GPG KEY


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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-02 Thread Laurent Jumet
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Hello !

Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?
 It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.
 Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?

 Many mail clients will assume that any GPG message is encrypted and
 prompt for a passphrase prior to invoking GPG.

Are you sure?
Security wouldn't be compromised if passphrase is given to anything else 
then gpg?

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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-02 Thread markus reichelt
* Laurent Jumet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Many mail clients will assume that any GPG message is encrypted and
  prompt for a passphrase prior to invoking GPG.
 
 Are you sure?
 Security wouldn't be compromised if passphrase is given to anything else 
 then gpg?

F.e. mutt itself asks for a passphrase and passes it on to gpg. It's
a normal thing for email clients to do, as with frontends for gpg as
well.

In case an attacker replaces the gpg binary with a wrapper... well,
security is compromised the moment when an attacker gains system
access anyway.

Btw, good to see GoldEd still floating around. How's fidonet?

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Sorry to the people I drove nuts back then, hehe


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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-02 Thread Todd Zullinger
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Mark Brown wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:59:54PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 engage wrote:
 Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?
 
 It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.
 
 Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?
 
 Many mail clients will assume that any GPG message is encrypted and
 prompt for a passphrase prior to invoking GPG.

I guess I just take it for granted because using mutt along with
gpg-agent, I don't get such a password request.  I'd be curious if
kmail would do the same if configured to use the gpg-agent.

Without the agent, mutt prompts as well.  It's just been a long long
time since I wasn't using gpg-agent. :)

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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-02 Thread engage
On Thursday 01 June 2006 08:59 pm, Todd Zullinger wrote:
engage wrote:
 Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?

It's not encrypted.  It's just signed and armored.

Doesn't your mail client automatically display this for you?

No. I keep getting prompted for my passphrase for this message. Kmail.

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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-01 Thread Laurent Jumet
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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-01 Thread Laurent Jumet
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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-01 Thread Laurent Jumet
Hello !

Sven Radde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But this is logical, isn't it?
 You don't trust a key (what's there to trust?). You trust the fact that
 *a certain key belongs to a certain user-id* and if new ids are added,
 you would have to think again if the owner of the key actually owns that
 id.

 Of course, he owns.
 It's impossible to add or revoque a UserID without the SecretKey.
 No matter if I add an UserID to my Key: it's the same Key.
 Trust is not about owning the key. It is about owning the *user-id* and
 in particular linking a user-id (= a real person) to a key.

 In other words: Who would prevent you from adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a
 user-id to your key? (Or, creating a new key with that user-id.)
 Still, as nobody would believe that my email-address belongs to your key
 (i.e. that new user-id on your key is not trusted by anyone), my emails
 would not get encrypted to your key. People would approach me (my
 user-id) for verification of the key's fingerprint and I could deny that
 the key belongs to me / my user-id.

You are right.
But what I noticed is this:

Let's suppose your Key has 4 UserID's and all fully trusted.
You add one UserID more Winston Churchill.
All 4 previous UserID's are compromised too, at the moment you added 
another one.
That's what *I think* I noticed.

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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-06-01 Thread engage
Why is someone sending an encrypted message to this list?

On Wednesday 31 May 2006 09:12 pm, Alphax wrote:
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Re: GnuPG asks for confirmation...

2006-05-31 Thread Laurent Jumet
Hello !

Charly Avital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a bit strange.

You mean that you cannot read compressed (not crypted) messages.


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