Re: Logo ballot reminder
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: before. Making HTML mail an option seems like a good idea, though there are already too many options for my taste. If someone wants to write that patch I'd be happy to include it. I'd really like it because I drop all mail with any HTML part into the spam folder except if my real name is included with the address. This is still a very effective spam filter. I hope the election system has been working well for everyone Yes, it worked well. My feature requests would be: * A note that only 1000 addresses may be entered at once might be helpful * An extra prompt to verify whether the election shall really be terminated. * A note that the election will not be terminated automatically at the specified time. * An option to create a static page of the results without Javascript and an included stylesheet for easy integration into other websites as a reference to the outcome of the election Thanks for this great service. Shalom-Salam, Werner ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
Hi, * Andrew Myers wrote (2006-11-29 13:21): CIVS originally sent text/plain emails. But it was useful to be able to embed links and to preserve election description formatting. The HTML it sends is pretty minimal -- I don't think it should set off reasonable spam filters. I also picked the vote mail from the trashcan. In my case wasn't so much the words but the fact that it was HTML-only. Even in complete Outlook shops mails will have an alternative text part. The vote mail was the third or so HTML-only mail which proved to be ham, this served as a very good yardstick in the past. At least, I haven't heard this complaint before. Maybe you don't regularly have votes by people thinking a lot about email communication. Thorsten -- Rarely do we find people who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think. - Martin Luther King pgpxZR56TuZRb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
On Fri Dec 01, 2006, Alphax wrote: I saw something weird where moving entries around didn't preserve the order that you had put things in... I ended up writing out all the option numbers on scraps of paper and shuffling them around until they were in the order I wanted :) Similar for me moving entries by clicking movement buttons. And the display redrew quite slowly each time I changed a numerical value by direct respecification, though not when I clicked a movement button. So I ended up being precise only for the top few rank values and bottom few. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 reynt0 wrote: On Fri Dec 01, 2006, Alphax wrote: I saw something weird where moving entries around didn't preserve the order that you had put things in... I ended up writing out all the option numbers on scraps of paper and shuffling them around until they were in the order I wanted :) Similar for me moving entries by clicking movement buttons. And the display redrew quite slowly each time I changed a numerical value by direct respecification, though not when I clicked a movement button. So I ended up being precise only for the top few rank values and bottom few. This was My experience also. JOHN :-\ Timestamp: Friday 01 Dec 2006, 23:23 --500 (Eastern Standard Time) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn4350: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org Comment: My Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJFcP/fAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsP2j4H/3AHScNsBLr48gpBD7CQUYUD FzhZE1k9GFfplmUyjaHT9w6Trpxqib5/mImf4WdfCcQGbAApfIzTynbodoDh4jHe rVs0PLvhpZwA5v4F5gbI0fC1DZQtrr6PaH5yk7+rEWNKhrwdNj7HcSO1gz+FDhSm efRhE4ChW2kWB5SBK279k0BSuwrO0vkD6cUVDz/HHytqpG5y5PxF9DuMePk5WGit gAELJC2kmszINn8Wm6VCw1JRYGuJ2Mx2qRIvNgt5kqqhSYlJsr5sQKkjgHVed3ng KgHsZ4LUX1k9qXRhVUNDZQoYoja5pRe7ty0XWSvhjQNYKWsQbiS15t/QHP+azrE= =zXns -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder (HHH)
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 09:41 -0700, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: SNIP No, I don't need an email, and yes I will vote, but not by GMT time. It is 4:41 PM GMT or 5:41 PM Berlin time, but only 9:41 AM here. Hey you set yourselves up. I cite as legal precedent a decision by one of the judges that was on the circuit court system in the United States (Etas Unis). They had a rule that they could not be drinking while cases were at court (no, not in the court dummy, after work) unless it was raining. So he walked outside the inn and the sun was shining brightly with nary a cloud in sight. He walked back in and gave his summation. They all ordered drinks. His summation? It MUST be raining some place. They didn't say WHERE it had to be raining. Who was the judge? John Marshall. The precedent is now set but not binding (court was not in session). Here is a world time clock to help you know when we have ALL run out of November: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ The John Marshall I am speaking of is THIS John Marshall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marshall Be careful here. If you are a strictly Shabbat observing Jew and faithfully observe Shabbat every seventh day, starting from Israel and slowly travel westward going all the way around the globe and end your trip back where you started you will be observing Shabbat one day later than everybody else. If you go eastward, you will be observing Shabbat one day earlier than everybody else. If it wasn't for that line in the Pacific we would have a LOT of problems. It does make for some problems as you cross it because you sometimes have to change what day it is. If you cross it a lot you begin to use GMT time ALL the time instead (called Zulu time by some). The time to close the voting is 1 Dec. 2006, 12:00 GMT (noon). That will be 1 Dec. 2006, 07:00 AM at Carnegie Mellon. I am sitting here and being very judicious about looking VERY carefully at all of the submissions. That means this court IS in session and since I am judging all of the submissions that makes me a sitting judge in the performance of his duties. That means that this decision can now be cited as a precedent. Unfortunately, I am not the Chief Judge, nor do I know if I am in the minority. If I am in the minority, consider this a dissenting opinion. Judge Henry Hertz Hobbit ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder (Andrew Berg)
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] And the executive summary is? not at Greenwich. Hey you didn't specify it was to be GMT, er, UTC time or any other time zone: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.gnupg.users/11076 Unless otherwise note UTC is used. However, I don't know whether CIVS uses local time. Anyway you will then have a couple of hours more. Salam-Shalom, Werner ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:21:20PM -0500, Andrew Myers wrote: Hi all, CIVS originally sent text/plain emails. But it was useful to be able to embed links and to preserve election description formatting. The HTML it sends is pretty minimal -- I don't think it should set off reasonable spam filters. It certainly was enough to make my brain register it as unreadable, I only went back to it when Warner mentioned the deadline again. Looking at it now I agree it is rather minimal as far as html goes, but it's still not something I'd willingly read as email (had to spawn a browser to look at it). At least, I haven't heard this complaint before. Making HTML mail an option seems like a good idea, though there are already too many options for my taste. If someone wants to write that patch I'd be happy to include it. I had a look at the code, but unfortunately I'm not much of a perl coder. I'm sure there others on this list who can do a better job than I can. I hope the election system has been working well for everyone otherwise. The system was fairly easy to use, the hardest part was deciding how the various entries ranked :) Wouter van Heyst signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wouter van Heyst wrote: It certainly was enough to make my brain register it as unreadable, I only went back to it when Warner mentioned the deadline again. Looking at it now I agree it is rather minimal as far as html goes, but it's still not something I'd willingly read as email (had to spawn a browser to look at it). Egad, open a browser for that? :) I just have mutt dump html only messages through w3m -dump and display the text. That's after my other filters weed out the really obvious trash and spam. And then only for messages that are HTML only. If they are multipart alternative I prefer the text/plain part. Until it was mentioned here I hadn't noticed that the message was HTML only actually. The system was fairly easy to use, the hardest part was deciding how the various entries ranked :) I'll second that. :) - -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp == Statistics are like a lamp-post to a drunken man - more for leaning on than illumination. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6rc1 (GNU/Linux) iQFDBAEBAgAtBQJFb5zaJhhodHRwOi8vd3d3LnBvYm94LmNvbS9+dG16L3BncC90 bXouYXNjAAoJEEMlk4u+rwzj3zcIAITZK+Yse2sJjXBcp4av4XK3aS/cOI1c5/Uc BLRG4F7cYcJgbjQuVOpV70Ts07q5NSSsJ7fqfWDoRNP9nxpmKiSHQhbhq7q580GP su4WI4cVpKcEH/fyfYi4PO8h0ZsYd963qGmdktLrBUBuAFuCnJstQ+4QHXpAOQGA 71VM58ldNJb7n8F8iYx8cCSYQkXOtLkjGuy9WEZtLSkEj15pnGBJBDn63zDWSc/s TJ3x6f1gUQ6BTAlR+LgHShHcjULqESB70mHqsrUkvehaqyWp6xiuzVPRveDUBRrL oy6qheye0mGEx6kIwrw6ShX1ysob1RMlSr6gHCKrT3CnlL8fXmY= =26us -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
Wouter van Heyst wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:21:20PM -0500, Andrew Myers wrote: snip I hope the election system has been working well for everyone otherwise. The system was fairly easy to use, the hardest part was deciding how the various entries ranked :) I saw something weird where moving entries around didn't preserve the order that you had put things in... I ended up writing out all the option numbers on scraps of paper and shuffling them around until they were in the order I wanted :) -- Alphax Death to all fanatics! Down with categorical imperative! OpenPGP key: http://tinyurl.com/lvq4g signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
On Nov 29, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Adam Cripps wrote: On 11/23/06, Werner Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As of now only 151 out of 1230 casted their vote. Hurry, the deadline is next Thursday. Salam-Shalom, Werner I don't seem to have received the URL either - please can you forward it? Adam Werner, your original ballot announcement ended up in my Junk box accidentally by my filter. I only noticed it after a rare venture to look to see what was there. Perhaps the HTML email is setting off people's filters? Joe smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
Joseph Oreste Bruni wrote: Werner, your original ballot announcement ended up in my Junk box accidentally by my filter. I only noticed it after a rare venture to look to see what was there. Perhaps the HTML email is setting off people's filters? I don't think HTML was why, it could be because of the number of links. Were there a lot? (it arrived before I subscribed to the list) Doesn't really matter,though. Just add [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your address book. -- /\_/\ /\_/\ /\_/\ ( o.o ) ( o.o ) ( o.o ) ^ ^ ^ Don't make me send my ASCII kitten minions. Key ID: 0x9C6CC3A3 Fingerprint: 5474 04A6 2BAC 7138 204A D61B 4246 59CB 9C6C C3A3 (Portable) Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 w/ Enigmail 0.94.1.1 and GnuPG 1.4.5 Windows XP SP2 Home Edition Every time you send private information unencrypted, a kitten cries. So won't you please, please, think of the kittens? ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Werner, your original ballot announcement ended up in my Junk box accidentally by my filter. I only noticed it after a rare venture to look to see what was there. Perhaps the HTML email is setting off people's filters? Probably. Frankly, I learned it only after starting that poll and then it was too late. Anway, setting up my own election service for this one-time event and send proper mails (i.e. text/plain) does not seem to be justified. Maybe someone can come up with a patch to the CIVS software to add an option for sending non-HTML mails. It would be nice feature for other projects too. Salam-Shalom, Werner ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
I didn't get an email either -- resend for me too please. Simon On 11/26/06, Allen Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did miss the ballot page. Please resend. On 11/23/06, Michael Jaritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner Koch schrieb: this is a reminder for the logo ballot. All subscribers of the gnupg-users and gnupg-devel lists should have received a mail (unfortunately text/html) with an URL to the ballot page. If you miss such a mail, please let me know and I will resend this mail. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
I did miss the ballot page. Please resend. On 11/23/06, Michael Jaritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner Koch schrieb: this is a reminder for the logo ballot. All subscribers of the gnupg-users and gnupg-devel lists should have received a mail (unfortunately text/html) with an URL to the ballot page. If you miss such a mail, please let me know and I will resend this mail. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Logo ballot reminder
Hi, this is a reminder for the logo ballot. All subscribers of the gnupg-users and gnupg-devel lists should have received a mail (unfortunately text/html) with an URL to the ballot page. If you miss such a mail, please let me know and I will resend this mail. As of now only 151 out of 1230 casted their vote. Hurry, the deadline is next Thursday. Salam-Shalom, Werner ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Logo ballot reminder
Werner Koch schrieb: this is a reminder for the logo ballot. All subscribers of the gnupg-users and gnupg-devel lists should have received a mail (unfortunately text/html) with an URL to the ballot page. If you miss such a mail, please let me know and I will resend this mail. Please resend it. Michael -- dumdideldu... ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
