Re: Pinentry problem with different home dir

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote in
 <87r0lhzxgu@jacob.g10code.de>:
 |On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 18:51, Michael Richardson said:
 ...
 |Use a different home directory.  Actually running
 |  gpg --homedir /somewhere -s something
 |should be enough but the agent and dirmngr started on the fly won't be
 |killed until you rmdir /somewhere.

It would really be nice if one would be able to avoid those extras
for simple operations.  It is one reason why i still use 1.4.23,
all those surroundings that i really do not need (unless i would
need them), and that get auto-started and are then laying around.

Other than that it justs works here, with three different
homedir's (pgp with "mutilated" non-exportable etc. private key --
thanks again for this non-standard but super user helpful
possibility!, pgp-nosecrets with only the public key for
encryption, and then the usually non-available full thing.
Works for years without any issues at all.

 |Or just use -u to select a different signing key.  For example in
 |~/.gitconfig
 ...
 |[user]
 |  name = "Werner Koch"
 |  email = "w...@gnupg.org"
 |  signingkey = C1D34B69219E4AEEC0BA1C21E3FDFF218E45B72B

I did not know it even works with quotes.  Never used quotes here.

--steffen
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|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
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Re: Pinentry problem with different home dir

[Falko Strenzke]

Hi Ingo,

actually I could solve the problem now by placing the gpg-agent.conf 
with the specification of the pinentry program into the folder I specify 
as GNUPGHOME. I still don't understand why this is necessary, as my 
normal home directory doesn't contain this file. But it is working for 
me now.


- Falko

Am 26.10.23 um 10:35 schrieb Ingo Klöcker:

On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2023 13:01:39 CEST Falko Strenzke wrote:

I am trying to run GnuPG with a different home directory by setting the
environment variable GNUPGHOME. However, in that case, for instance when
trying to generate a key, in that case I get the error

gpg: DBG: chan_4 <- ERR 67108949 No pinentry 
gpg: agent_genkey failed: No pinentry
Key generation failed: No pinentry

I'm wondering why you have problems with something that I'm using almost daily
while working on Kleopatra. I do
GNUPGHOME=/somewhere gpg ...
or
GNUPGHOME=/somewhere kleopatra ...
all of the time.

I think you need to tell us the commands you are using. And the output of
`gpg --version`.

Regards,
Ingo

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Re: Pinentry problem with different home dir

[Ingo Klöcker]

On Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2023 13:01:39 CEST Falko Strenzke wrote:
> I am trying to run GnuPG with a different home directory by setting the
> environment variable GNUPGHOME. However, in that case, for instance when
> trying to generate a key, in that case I get the error
> 
> gpg: DBG: chan_4 <- ERR 67108949 No pinentry 
> gpg: agent_genkey failed: No pinentry
> Key generation failed: No pinentry

I'm wondering why you have problems with something that I'm using almost daily 
while working on Kleopatra. I do
GNUPGHOME=/somewhere gpg ...
or
GNUPGHOME=/somewhere kleopatra ...
all of the time.

I think you need to tell us the commands you are using. And the output of  
`gpg --version`.

Regards,
Ingo


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Re: Pinentry problem with different home dir

[Werner Koch via Gnupg-users]

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 18:51, Michael Richardson said:

> The gpg-agent dependancy that came a few years ago has really been a PITA.

a few years = 20 years [1]

> I would really like some way to tell GPG that it really needs to ignore all
> of *my* (personal) setup, because I'm wearing a different personality now.

Use a different home directory.  Actually running
  gpg --homedir /somewhere -s something
should be enough but the agent and dirmngr started on the fly won't be
killed until you rmdir /somewhere.

Or just use -u to select a different signing key.  For example in
~/.gitconfig

--8<---cut here---start->8---
[user]
  name = "Werner Koch"
  email = "w...@gnupg.org"
  signingkey = C1D34B69219E4AEEC0BA1C21E3FDFF218E45B72B
[commit]
 gpgsign
--8<---cut here---end--->8---


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner



[1] "Noteworthy changes in version 1.9.0 (2003-08-05)"

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Re: Pinentry problem with different home dir

[Michael Richardson]

Werner Koch via Gnupg-users  wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 13:01, Falko Strenzke said:

>> Can anyone give me an advice what I can try to get the GnuPG Agent
>> pinentry working with different home directory specified via
>> GNUPGHOME?

> Run it this way:

> mkdir /foo/bar cd /foo/bar GNUPGHOME=`pwd` gpg-agent --daemon
> ~/bin/gnupg-setup-tests

The gpg-agent dependancy that came a few years ago has really been a PITA.

I would really like some way to tell GPG that it really needs to ignore all
of *my* (personal) setup, because I'm wearing a different personality now.
[like code signing]

> In case you have a special setup you may put a gpg-agent.conf into
> $GNUPGHOME and use the pinentry-program option.  "gpg -v" shou.d show
> which pinetry is launched, in case of problems, the gpg-agent.conf
> should show/log an error.

I guess I'd really like that to just happen with some 
--I-really-want-isolated-gnupg
option.

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Re: Pinentry problem with different home dir

[Werner Koch via Gnupg-users]

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 13:01, Falko Strenzke said:

> Can anyone give me an advice what I can try to get the GnuPG Agent
> pinentry working with different home directory specified via
> GNUPGHOME?

Run it this way:

mkdir /foo/bar
cd /foo/bar
GNUPGHOME=`pwd` gpg-agent --daemon ~/bin/gnupg-setup-tests

With gnupg-setup-tests being:
--8<---cut here---start->8---
#!/bin/sh

SSH_AUTH_SOCK=$(gpgconf --list-dirs agent-ssh-socket)
export SSH_AUTH_SOCK
cat >setup-tests.ini <<'EOF'
PS1="$(echo "$PS1" | sed 's,\\\$ $,(GnuPGTest)\\\$ ,')"
export HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth
export HISTFILE=$(pwd)/.bash_history
EOF
exec bash --init-file setup-tests.ini
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

That is a pretty conevient setup and allows to keep test around and
easily switch to them.

The pinentry is searched at

$(gpgconf -L bindir)/pinentry

In case you have a special setup you may put a gpg-agent.conf into
$GNUPGHOME and use the pinentry-program option.  "gpg -v" shou.d show
which pinetry is launched, in case of problems, the gpg-agent.conf
should show/log an error.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner

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Pinentry problem with different home dir

[Falko Strenzke]

I am trying to run GnuPG with a different home directory by setting the 
environment variable GNUPGHOME. However, in that case, for instance when 
trying to generate a key, in that case I get the error


gpg: DBG: chan_4 <- ERR 67108949 No pinentry 
gpg: agent_genkey failed: No pinentry
Key generation failed: No pinentry

I wonder what makes the difference. The only relevant files I found in 
my normal home directory are those under ~/.gnupg. But there seems to be 
no agent configuration file in that directory.


Can anyone give me an advice what I can try to get the GnuPG Agent 
pinentry working with different home directory specified via GNUPGHOME?


- Falko

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