Re: Setting up a new laptop - importing keyrings

2009-01-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 12 January 2009 23:20:33 Todd Zullinger wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  I'm setting up a new netbook, and have copied into the .gnupg folder
  my keyrings and associated files from this laptop.  Kgpg lists the
  keys correctly, but all is not well.  When I try to set keys for
  signing and encryption I get the endless searching bar, as Chris
  described a few days ago.

 I know nothing of Kpg, but perhaps we can determine whether the issue
 is with gpg or Kgpg and that might narrow down where to look.

  I considered starting from an empty keyring and importing signatures
  as they arrive in kmail, but I think the problem is that I don't
  know how to get the secret key recognised.

 Are your secret keys listed by gpg --list-secret-keys ?  

Yes, they are.  All CLI commands work fine.

 If so, then
 the problem isn't with the keyrings.  It could be with Kgpg or the
 gpg-agent setup (IIRC, that was what the problem a few days ago was).

I think something is preventing communication between kmail and the keyrings, 
but only in some circumstances.  While I can't, in the Fedora installations, 
set my key to encrypt mail, I can read the encrypted mail that comes to me.

I don't think that agent is the problem - it holds the passphrase for the 
correct amount of time.  This is the agent conf file:

pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt
no-grab
allow-mark-trusted
default-cache-ttl 3600
# GPGConf disabled this option here at Fri 13 Jul 2007 10:47:33 IST
# log-file socket:///home/anne/.gnupg/log-socket

###+++--- GPGConf ---+++###
default-cache-ttl 3600
allow-mark-trusted
debug-level basic
log-file socket:///home/anne/.gnupg/log-socket
###+++--- GPGConf ---+++### Sun 11 Jan 2009 08:44:43 GMT
# GPGConf edited this configuration file.
# It will disable options before this marked block, but it will
# never change anything below these lines.

It may be relevant to mention that on my Mandriva laptop I use keychain to 
help with remote administration.  There, when I open konsole for the first 
time each morning, I'm asked for the passphrase.  I always then see

 * Warning: can't find an...@kde.org; skipping
Identity added: /home/anne/.ssh/id_dsa (/home/anne/.ssh/id_dsa)
can't connect to `/home/anne/.gnupg/log-socket': Connection refused

If this (the last line) isn't relevant to this particular problem I'll deal 
with it in a separate thread later.  It doesn't appear to stop anything 
working.  On that particular laptop everything works as expected except for 
automatically importing keys for signed emails.

Anne


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Re: Setting up a new laptop - importing keyrings

2009-01-13 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 13 January 2009 08:15:16 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 12 January 2009 23:20:33 Todd Zullinger wrote:
  Anne Wilson wrote:
   I'm setting up a new netbook, and have copied into the .gnupg folder
   my keyrings and associated files from this laptop.  Kgpg lists the
   keys correctly, but all is not well.  When I try to set keys for
   signing and encryption I get the endless searching bar, as Chris
   described a few days ago.
 
  I know nothing of Kpg, but perhaps we can determine whether the issue
  is with gpg or Kgpg and that might narrow down where to look.
 
   I considered starting from an empty keyring and importing signatures
   as they arrive in kmail, but I think the problem is that I don't
   know how to get the secret key recognised.
 
  Are your secret keys listed by gpg --list-secret-keys ?

 Yes, they are.  All CLI commands work fine.

  If so, then
  the problem isn't with the keyrings.  It could be with Kgpg or the
  gpg-agent setup (IIRC, that was what the problem a few days ago was).

 I think something is preventing communication between kmail and the
 keyrings, but only in some circumstances.  While I can't, in the Fedora
 installations, set my key to encrypt mail, I can read the encrypted mail
 that comes to me.

 I don't think that agent is the problem - it holds the passphrase for the
 correct amount of time.  This is the agent conf file:

 pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt
 no-grab
 allow-mark-trusted
 default-cache-ttl 3600
 # GPGConf disabled this option here at Fri 13 Jul 2007 10:47:33 IST
 # log-file socket:///home/anne/.gnupg/log-socket

 ###+++--- GPGConf ---+++###
 default-cache-ttl 3600
 allow-mark-trusted
 debug-level basic
 log-file socket:///home/anne/.gnupg/log-socket
 ###+++--- GPGConf ---+++### Sun 11 Jan 2009 08:44:43 GMT
 # GPGConf edited this configuration file.
 # It will disable options before this marked block, but it will
 # never change anything below these lines.

 It may be relevant to mention that on my Mandriva laptop I use keychain to
 help with remote administration.  There, when I open konsole for the first
 time each morning, I'm asked for the passphrase.  I always then see

  * Warning: can't find an...@kde.org; skipping
 Identity added: /home/anne/.ssh/id_dsa (/home/anne/.ssh/id_dsa)
 can't connect to `/home/anne/.gnupg/log-socket': Connection refused

 If this (the last line) isn't relevant to this particular problem I'll deal
 with it in a separate thread later.  It doesn't appear to stop anything
 working.  On that particular laptop everything works as expected except for
 automatically importing keys for signed emails.

Are these log messages likely to be relevant?

kdm: :0: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_gnome_keyring.so: 5 
Time(s)
kdm: :0: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_gnome_keyring.so): 
/lib/security/pam_gnome_keyring.so: cannot open shared object file: No such 
file or directory: 5 Time(s)
polkit-grant-helper: granted authorization for 
org.freedesktop.packagekit.package-install-untrusted to pid 9436 [uid=500] 
[auth=root]: 1 Time(s)

Anne


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Setting up a new laptop - importing keyrings

2009-01-12 Thread Anne Wilson
I'm setting up a new netbook, and have copied into the .gnupg folder my 
keyrings and associated files from this laptop.  Kgpg lists the keys 
correctly, but all is not well.  When I try to set keys for signing and 
encryption I get the endless searching bar, as Chris described a few days ago.

I considered starting from an empty keyring and importing signatures as they 
arrive in kmail, but I think the problem is that I don't know how to get the 
secret key recognised.

I'm happy to delete everything and start again if there is a better way, but I 
need help to get this sorted.  Thanks

Anne


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Re: Setting up a new laptop - importing keyrings

2009-01-12 Thread Todd Zullinger
Anne Wilson wrote:
 I'm setting up a new netbook, and have copied into the .gnupg folder
 my keyrings and associated files from this laptop.  Kgpg lists the
 keys correctly, but all is not well.  When I try to set keys for
 signing and encryption I get the endless searching bar, as Chris
 described a few days ago.

I know nothing of Kpg, but perhaps we can determine whether the issue
is with gpg or Kgpg and that might narrow down where to look.

 I considered starting from an empty keyring and importing signatures
 as they arrive in kmail, but I think the problem is that I don't
 know how to get the secret key recognised.

Are your secret keys listed by gpg --list-secret-keys ?  If so, then
the problem isn't with the keyrings.  It could be with Kgpg or the
gpg-agent setup (IIRC, that was what the problem a few days ago was).

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