Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
On Monday 07 September 2009 08:42:22 Dotan Cohen wrote: It seems most people so far prefer CMake. However, the reason I'm giving it is because Constantine here (CCed to this message) volunteered to prepare it together with me, and then to give it to Telux. So thank Constantine for standing up as our victim^W volunteer. I would be interested in cmake from a user's point of view, not from a developer's point of view. That means that in the instances where I am forced to compile software, what options are available such as install directories, processor options, etc. Well, this is mostly covered by the CMake man page, the online cmake help, and the cmake-gui program, and it's not particularly interesting unless something breaks. I suppose I can write a blog post about it. Remember, LUG is Linux _User_ Group, so I think that the lectures should focus on the users. Well, a LUG is indeed a Linux Users' Group, but many Linux users are also developers. In UNIX and FOSS, the distinction between users and developers is somewhat blurred, because people can download the source (or in the case of languages that are not compiled to binaries, even look at it and debug it directly), modify it and send back changes to the core devs. Furthermore, I'm not really a developer of CMake itself - I just use it to develop build systems. So while I'm a developer of various programs that use CMake for its configuration and build system, I'm only a CMake user. Well, I guess we can go on in this vain. In any case, many LUGs I've ran into have presentations intended for developers. But if someone wants to give a presentation about how to use Firefox, OpenOffice.org, VirtualBox, FileZilla, or some other program, he'll be more than welcome. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Understand what Open Source is - http://shlom.in/oss-fs Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
Orr Dunkelman wrote: Hi everybody! On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Haifux is what we make of it. We are the people who attend the meetings. With that I could agree! We, the people is a lovely statement. Google the rest. I have no problem with this, in fact as a largely silent member of Haifux I do not expect that it would matter even if I did have a problem! However, I felt it right to point out to Shlomi from which perspective his lecture would be most parallel with what I perceive Haifux to be. Yes. Haifux is indeed one of these concepts. If you think Haifux is a Guava, then Haifux is a Guava (so does the zionism, btw). BTW, when Haifux was founded in 1999 by guy keren and Orr Dunkelman, it was not based on a LUG but on LUPG - Little Unix Programmers Group: http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/ I see no mention of Haifux on that page, nor of that page on the Haifux site. Therefore, one could not deduce the Little Unix Programmers Group moniker from publicly- available Haifux information. I will however quote the opening lines of the Haifux website: The Haifa Linux Club is a home for Linux users and programmers in the Haifa area. Haifux stands for Haifa Linux Users Group. So, while you are correct that the group is made for programmers as well as users, I still contend that the name implies users as the main audience. Despite that, being that programmers are specifically mentioned in who the group is for, a lecture aimed at programmers would in fact be appropriate for the group. Well, this is mentioned once in a while (especially when we discuss the charter of haifux). But fear not! We the People of Haifux, in Order to form a more perfect LUG, establish clux, ensure domestic Open Sourceness, provide for the common creatives, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Haifa Linux User Group. (and starting from this day onward, let it be known that Guy Keren is our founding father). and that makes you - what? the founding mother? ;) but to get to the point - what dotan is saying could be translated to perhaps SiL (Staying in Linux) should be re-incarnated? --guy ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: ... Remember, LUG is Linux _User_ Group, so I think that the lectures should focus on the users. What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet; ---Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, 1594 Haifux is what we make of it. We are the people who attend the meetings. Therefore, we have long ago expanded the charter of a LUG to code developing, non-Linux FOSS, open architectures, free graphics, public domain literature, free licensing and other related topics. BTW, when Haifux was founded in 1999 by guy keren and Orr Dunkelman, it was not based on a LUG but on LUPG - Little Unix Programmers Group: http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/ Orna. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
2009/9/7 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: ... Remember, LUG is Linux _User_ Group, so I think that the lectures should focus on the users. What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet; ---Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, 1594 Are you arguing that words have no meaning, and that one could say whatever he wants, giving his own meanings to the words and let the listener guess as to what the meanings might be? My answer to your quote would be: A clever quote proves nothing -- Voltaire Haifux is what we make of it. We are the people who attend the meetings. With that I could agree! Therefore, we have long ago expanded the charter of a LUG to code developing, non-Linux FOSS, open architectures, free graphics, public domain literature, free licensing and other related topics. I have no problem with this, in fact as a largely silent member of Haifux I do not expect that it would matter even if I did have a problem! However, I felt it right to point out to Shlomi from which perspective his lecture would be most parallel with what I perceive Haifux to be. BTW, when Haifux was founded in 1999 by guy keren and Orr Dunkelman, it was not based on a LUG but on LUPG - Little Unix Programmers Group: http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/ I see no mention of Haifux on that page, nor of that page on the Haifux site. Therefore, one could not deduce the Little Unix Programmers Group moniker from publicly- available Haifux information. I will however quote the opening lines of the Haifux website: The Haifa Linux Club is a home for Linux users and programmers in the Haifa area. Haifux stands for Haifa Linux Users Group. So, while you are correct that the group is made for programmers as well as users, I still contend that the name implies users as the main audience. Despite that, being that programmers are specifically mentioned in who the group is for, a lecture aimed at programmers would in fact be appropriate for the group. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
Well, this is mentioned once in a while (especially when we discuss the charter of haifux). I need to read that charter! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
Hi everybody! On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Haifux is what we make of it. We are the people who attend the meetings. With that I could agree! We, the people is a lovely statement. Google the rest. I have no problem with this, in fact as a largely silent member of Haifux I do not expect that it would matter even if I did have a problem! However, I felt it right to point out to Shlomi from which perspective his lecture would be most parallel with what I perceive Haifux to be. Yes. Haifux is indeed one of these concepts. If you think Haifux is a Guava, then Haifux is a Guava (so does the zionism, btw). BTW, when Haifux was founded in 1999 by guy keren and Orr Dunkelman, it was not based on a LUG but on LUPG - Little Unix Programmers Group: http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/ I see no mention of Haifux on that page, nor of that page on the Haifux site. Therefore, one could not deduce the Little Unix Programmers Group moniker from publicly- available Haifux information. I will however quote the opening lines of the Haifux website: The Haifa Linux Club is a home for Linux users and programmers in the Haifa area. Haifux stands for Haifa Linux Users Group. So, while you are correct that the group is made for programmers as well as users, I still contend that the name implies users as the main audience. Despite that, being that programmers are specifically mentioned in who the group is for, a lecture aimed at programmers would in fact be appropriate for the group. Well, this is mentioned once in a while (especially when we discuss the charter of haifux). But fear not! We the People of Haifux, in Order to form a more perfect LUG, establish clux, ensure domestic Open Sourceness, provide for the common creatives, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Haifa Linux User Group. (and starting from this day onward, let it be known that Guy Keren is our founding father). -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com a scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone - Charles Darwin. GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
[Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
Hi all, due to the lack of recent volunteer presenters in the open-source clubs, I decided to step forward and volunteer to give a presentation. The usual caveat is that I tend to give pretty bad presentations: I don't have good diction, tend to create bad slides (though I'll try to spice them with some images, and good presentation advice - http://perl.net.au/wiki/Resources_for_Presenters - etc.) In any case I can give a talk about: 1. CMake - http://www.cmake.org/ - the opossum alternative to the GNU Autotools (a.k.a GNU Autohell). I gave a presentation about GNU Autotools before, which I knew were very bad, but has since then reached nirvana with CMake. 2. jQuery - portable and concise JavaScript - http://jquery.com/ - jQuery is the write less - do more JavaScript library, which abstracts most common JavaScript tasks in a succinct interface, which greatly speeds up and facilitates the coding. My approach to this will be to give several jQuery examples, and explain how and why they work. 3. Bottom-up Subversion - an introduction to http://subversion.tigris.org/ in a bottom-up fashion, as a complementary to the svnbook - http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ . 4. Anything from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/ . I may need to update some of these presentations. 5. I can also adapt a lot of stuff from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/ (should have been /essays/ or /articles/ or something - yet another historical URL on my site) to presentations. 6. I've been working on the fifth installment of my Perl-for-Newbies presentation: http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/ My Perl-for-Newbies presentations did not prove very popular when I gave them one after the other to Telux, but I can give this separately. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Original Riddles - http://www.shlomifish.org/puzzles/ Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
Hi, I would love to hear about jquery. Have you used their GUI platform as well? (http://jqueryui.com/) Thanks, Tal. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: Hi all, due to the lack of recent volunteer presenters in the open-source clubs, I decided to step forward and volunteer to give a presentation. The usual caveat is that I tend to give pretty bad presentations: I don't have good diction, tend to create bad slides (though I'll try to spice them with some images, and good presentation advice - http://perl.net.au/wiki/Resources_for_Presenters - etc.) In any case I can give a talk about: 1. CMake - http://www.cmake.org/ - the opossum alternative to the GNU Autotools (a.k.a GNU Autohell). I gave a presentation about GNU Autotools before, which I knew were very bad, but has since then reached nirvana with CMake. 2. jQuery - portable and concise JavaScript - http://jquery.com/ - jQuery is the write less - do more JavaScript library, which abstracts most common JavaScript tasks in a succinct interface, which greatly speeds up and facilitates the coding. My approach to this will be to give several jQuery examples, and explain how and why they work. 3. Bottom-up Subversion - an introduction to http://subversion.tigris.org/ in a bottom-up fashion, as a complementary to the svnbook - http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ . 4. Anything from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/ . I may need to update some of these presentations. 5. I can also adapt a lot of stuff from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/ (should have been /essays/ or /articles/ or something - yet another historical URL on my site) to presentations. 6. I've been working on the fifth installment of my Perl-for-Newbies presentation: http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/ My Perl-for-Newbies presentations did not prove very popular when I gave them one after the other to Telux, but I can give this separately. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Original Riddles - http://www.shlomifish.org/puzzles/ Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
Hi, I would like to hear a lecture on cmake. Regards, Emil On Sun, 6 Sep 2009, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all, due to the lack of recent volunteer presenters in the open-source clubs, I decided to step forward and volunteer to give a presentation. The usual caveat is that I tend to give pretty bad presentations: I don't have good diction, tend to create bad slides (though I'll try to spice them with some images, and good presentation advice - http://perl.net.au/wiki/Resources_for_Presenters - etc.) In any case I can give a talk about: 1. CMake - http://www.cmake.org/ - the opossum alternative to the GNU Autotools (a.k.a GNU Autohell). I gave a presentation about GNU Autotools before, which I knew were very bad, but has since then reached nirvana with CMake. 2. jQuery - portable and concise JavaScript - http://jquery.com/ - jQuery is the write less - do more JavaScript library, which abstracts most common JavaScript tasks in a succinct interface, which greatly speeds up and facilitates the coding. My approach to this will be to give several jQuery examples, and explain how and why they work. 3. Bottom-up Subversion - an introduction to http://subversion.tigris.org/ in a bottom-up fashion, as a complementary to the svnbook - http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ . 4. Anything from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/ . I may need to update some of these presentations. 5. I can also adapt a lot of stuff from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/ (should have been /essays/ or /articles/ or something - yet another historical URL on my site) to presentations. 6. I've been working on the fifth installment of my Perl-for-Newbies presentation: http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/ My Perl-for-Newbies presentations did not prove very popular when I gave them one after the other to Telux, but I can give this separately. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Original Riddles - http://www.shlomifish.org/puzzles/ Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Kohn Emil Danem...@cs.technion.ac.il wrote: Hi, I would like to hear a lecture on cmake. + !1! for cmake! I'm interested in getting familiar with CMake - considering it for a long time, but procrastinating to learn it myself. -- Zaar ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
On Sunday 06 September 2009 18:09:51 Hai Zaar wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Kohn Emil Danem...@cs.technion.ac.il wrote: Hi, I would like to hear a lecture on cmake. + !1! for cmake! I'm interested in getting familiar with CMake - considering it for a long time, but procrastinating to learn it myself. It seems most people so far prefer CMake. However, the reason I'm giving it is because Constantine here (CCed to this message) volunteered to prepare it together with me, and then to give it to Telux. So thank Constantine for standing up as our victim^W volunteer. In any case, I still would like to prepare and give the jQuery presentation, but this will take a while. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Rethinking CPAN - http://shlom.in/rethinking-cpan Chuck Norris read the entire English Wikipedia in 24 hours. Twice. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Me Volunteering to Give a Presentation
2009/9/6 Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il: Hi all, due to the lack of recent volunteer presenters in the open-source clubs, I decided to step forward and volunteer to give a presentation. The usual caveat is that I tend to give pretty bad presentations: I don't have good diction, tend to create bad slides (though I'll try to spice them with some images, and good presentation advice - http://perl.net.au/wiki/Resources_for_Presenters - etc.) In any case I can give a talk about: 1. CMake - http://www.cmake.org/ - the opossum alternative to the GNU Autotools (a.k.a GNU Autohell). I gave a presentation about GNU Autotools before, which I knew were very bad, but has since then reached nirvana with CMake. 2. jQuery - portable and concise JavaScript - http://jquery.com/ - jQuery is the write less - do more JavaScript library, which abstracts most common JavaScript tasks in a succinct interface, which greatly speeds up and facilitates the coding. My approach to this will be to give several jQuery examples, and explain how and why they work. 3. Bottom-up Subversion - an introduction to http://subversion.tigris.org/ in a bottom-up fashion, as a complementary to the svnbook - http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ . 4. Anything from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/ . I may need to update some of these presentations. 5. I can also adapt a lot of stuff from here - http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/ (should have been /essays/ or /articles/ or something - yet another historical URL on my site) to presentations. 6. I've been working on the fifth installment of my Perl-for-Newbies presentation: http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/ My Perl-for-Newbies presentations did not prove very popular when I gave them one after the other to Telux, but I can give this separately. From the Haifux list, I would be ver interested in hearing you lecture about Jquery. I will be swamped with exams until the end of October, though. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
