[IMail Forum] Imail v9 = Collaboration Suite

2004-10-19 Thread Markus Gufler

Following to the german news on 
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/52288
the next Imail version will be released as Collaboration Suite on october
25. So far so good.

But what's about:
The smallest Collaboration Suite license (25 Users, and Bitdefender AV
Engine) will cost 1295 Euro + VAT

Up to now Imail v8 SB has a basic cost of around the half of this price.

Anyone has more information about this?

Markus




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[IMail Forum] spamskip.txt is this correct to allow these IP's?

2004-10-19 Thread Christopher Checca
200.1.1.1   255.255.255.255
200.1.1.3   255.255.255.255
200.1.1.23  255.255.255.255
200.1.1.25  255.255.255.255
200.1.1.26  255.255.255.255
200.1.1.250 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.251 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.253 255.255.255.255

I want to allow the following to skip spam checking in imail ... is this the
correct format?

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com
 




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Re: [IMail Forum] spamskip.txt is this correct to allow these IP's?

2004-10-19 Thread Daniel Donnelly
Spamskip.txt is created via the Trusted Addresses tab in V8.1x, so,
yes, this appears to be the only way to specify from the GUI and how
the file is written, when entering a single address. BTW, the
separator between the IP and Mask appears to be a tab, not a space, if
you are editing the file. Be sure there is a CRLF after each IP/Mask
line.

Daniel Donnelly

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Checca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] spamskip.txt is this correct to allow these
IP's?


200.1.1.1 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.3 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.23 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.25 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.26 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.250 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.251 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.253 255.255.255.255

I want to allow the following to skip spam checking in imail ... is
this the
correct format?

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com





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RE: [IMail Forum] spamskip.txt is this correct to allow these IP's?

2004-10-19 Thread Christopher Checca
I used the tab in the imail admin to enter all the addresses just to make
sure.

thanks

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] spamskip.txt is this correct to allow these IP's?

Spamskip.txt is created via the Trusted Addresses tab in V8.1x, so,
yes, this appears to be the only way to specify from the GUI and how
the file is written, when entering a single address. BTW, the
separator between the IP and Mask appears to be a tab, not a space, if
you are editing the file. Be sure there is a CRLF after each IP/Mask
line.

Daniel Donnelly

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Checca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] spamskip.txt is this correct to allow these
IP's?


200.1.1.1 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.3 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.23 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.25 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.26 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.250 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.251 255.255.255.255
200.1.1.253 255.255.255.255

I want to allow the following to skip spam checking in imail ... is
this the
correct format?

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com





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[IMail Forum] upgrading system box

2004-10-19 Thread John Carter
I'm looking to upgrade our Imail box (Dell Optiplex, 600mhz, 256MB,
Win2000). We get about 500K messages a month, so a solid desktop will do us.
(Looking at Dell 3.2GHz, 1GB)  Question: Since I only run Imail and Declude
on the box, are there any issues that make XP or Win2000 a better operating
system?  (We have campus licenses for both, so cost and availability are not
problems.)

Thanks,
John


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[IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Rick Davidson
I am trying to clear up a debate about whether or not we are required to 
archive our incoming and outgoing email. We are owned by a public company 
and we do deal with financial transactions and peoples personal information. 
I cannot find a definitive answer on whether or not we have to archive 
email. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Deloitte Touche took 40 minutes to explain that he 
didnt know if we needed to or not.

I will keep searching but if anyone can point me to some documention 
regarding this matter in would be greatly appreciated.

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If you have or can find the resources, archive now and find the answer
later.

If you later find you do not have to, there is a key on your keyboard to
correct what you did.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley
 
 I am trying to clear up a debate about whether or not we are required to
 archive our incoming and outgoing email. We are owned by a public company
 and we do deal with financial transactions and peoples personal
information.
 I cannot find a definitive answer on whether or not we have to archive
 email. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Deloitte Touche took 40 minutes to explain that he
 didnt know if we needed to or not.
 
 I will keep searching but if anyone can point me to some documention
 regarding this matter in would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Rick Davidson
 National Systems Manager
 North American Title Group
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Re: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

2004-10-19 Thread Bud Durland
John Carter wrote:
I'm looking to upgrade our Imail box (Dell Optiplex, 600mhz, 256MB,
Win2000). We get about 500K messages a month, so a solid desktop will do us.
(Looking at Dell 3.2GHz, 1GB)  Question: Since I only run Imail and Declude
on the box, are there any issues that make XP or Win2000 a better operating
system?  (We have campus licenses for both, so cost and availability are not
problems.)
 

Unless they've changed something,  XP is a workstation OS, and as such 
is limited to 10 client connection at a time.  I don't know it that only 
applies to Windows network connections, or incoming connections for any 
service.

If the debate is Windows Server 2003 vs. Windows server 2000, I'm not 
sure there's a big different either way, though I'd probably install on 
WinServer 2003 if given the choice.

--

He made us believe a man could fly
Christopher Reeve, 1952-2004
-
Bud Durland, CNE   Mold-Rite Plastics
Network Administrator   http://www.mrpcap.com
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Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Rick Davidson
The incoming volume of mail is too high to just channel it to a mailbox and 
we have 7 Imail systems that will need to copy mail to an archive server.

I'll keep lookin
Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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- Original Message - 
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

If you have or can find the resources, archive now and find the answer
later.
If you later find you do not have to, there is a key on your keyboard to
correct what you did.
John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley
I am trying to clear up a debate about whether or not we are required to
archive our incoming and outgoing email. We are owned by a public company
and we do deal with financial transactions and peoples personal
information.
I cannot find a definitive answer on whether or not we have to archive
email. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Deloitte Touche took 40 minutes to explain that he
didnt know if we needed to or not.
I will keep searching but if anyone can point me to some documention
regarding this matter in would be greatly appreciated.
Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Rod Dorman
On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 14:39:16, Rick Davidson wrote:
 I am trying to clear up a debate about whether or not we are required
 to archive our incoming and outgoing email. We are owned by a public
 company and we do deal with financial transactions and peoples
 personal information.

Ask someone authoritative in your parent company (get in in writing).

Then do what they say.

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RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Dan Barker
I expect you to receive a bill for the hour (.667 rounded up). Our last
transaction with our old IP Lawyer was a .5 hour charge for receiving a
voice mail!

Anyhow, it looks to this layman as if your archives may be subpoenaed only
if they exist. So, I changed to killing all logs at 1 week age, and archive
nothing. If a user leaves it in a mailbox, well then it's on a backup tape
too. Hurray for POP3!

hth: REF: http://www.eff.org/osp/20040819_OSPBestPractices.pdf

Dan Barker

snip
I will keep searching but if anyone can point me to some documention
regarding this matter in would be greatly appreciated.

Rick Davidson
snip


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RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Rick Rambo
How much actually deals with client info (data that would need to be
archived).  We have an account which we email project related emails.  We
place a flag (###) where ### is some client number in the Subject line and
an incomming and outgoing filter automagically copies the email to this
account. Since we use Outlook as our email client, a dedicated machine
collects the emails and rules file them into folders.  Once a month we
archive from this machine.  Works for us but we probably don't have your
volume.

.rick..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

The incoming volume of mail is too high to just channel it to a mailbox and
we have 7 Imail systems that will need to copy mail to an archive server.

I'll keep lookin

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
-
- Original Message -
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley


If you have or can find the resources, archive now and find the answer
later.

If you later find you do not have to, there is a key on your keyboard to
correct what you did.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

 I am trying to clear up a debate about whether or not we are required to
 archive our incoming and outgoing email. We are owned by a public company
 and we do deal with financial transactions and peoples personal
information.
 I cannot find a definitive answer on whether or not we have to archive
 email. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Deloitte Touche took 40 minutes to explain that he
 didnt know if we needed to or not.

 I will keep searching but if anyone can point me to some documention
 regarding this matter in would be greatly appreciated.

 Rick Davidson
 National Systems Manager
 North American Title Group
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RE: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

2004-10-19 Thread Rick Rambo
The only reason we chose server over workstation was our antivirus insisted
upon it. 

.rick..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bud Durland
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

John Carter wrote:

I'm looking to upgrade our Imail box (Dell Optiplex, 600mhz, 256MB, 
Win2000). We get about 500K messages a month, so a solid desktop will do
us.
(Looking at Dell 3.2GHz, 1GB)  Question: Since I only run Imail and 
Declude on the box, are there any issues that make XP or Win2000 a 
better operating system?  (We have campus licenses for both, so cost 
and availability are not
problems.)
  


Unless they've changed something,  XP is a workstation OS, and as such is
limited to 10 client connection at a time.  I don't know it that only
applies to Windows network connections, or incoming connections for any
service.

If the debate is Windows Server 2003 vs. Windows server 2000, I'm not sure
there's a big different either way, though I'd probably install on WinServer
2003 if given the choice.


--

He made us believe a man could fly
Christopher Reeve, 1952-2004
-
Bud Durland, CNE   Mold-Rite Plastics
Network Administrator   http://www.mrpcap.com
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RE: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

2004-10-19 Thread Dan Horne
I have Imail installed on a Dell server with Win2000SRV for Primary.  Same
hardware but WinXP Pro (not my idea) for the backup server.  The main
server, on the same hardware, is almost twice as fast at
Declude/Fprot/Imail.  Neither box runs anything else continually (the backup
has a program that the boss uses that won't work on a server OS, but he only
uses it once a month for about an hour).

I don't have hard numbers to support it, but the difference is very obvious.



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RE: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

2004-10-19 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I bet no one out ther was expecing that answer!

what does you AV have to do with choosing the proper OS. Correct me if I am
wrong but there is AV software available for all Windows versions.

If your AV insists on workstation hten chang AV products. Use the proper
tool for the job. I caught my 6 year old using a flat head screw driver the
other day on a phillips head screw. He got it to work but messed up the
screw in the process.



Kevin Bilbee

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Rambo
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box


 The only reason we chose server over workstation was our
 antivirus insisted
 upon it.

 .rick..
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bud Durland
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

 John Carter wrote:

 I'm looking to upgrade our Imail box (Dell Optiplex, 600mhz, 256MB,
 Win2000). We get about 500K messages a month, so a solid desktop will do
 us.
 (Looking at Dell 3.2GHz, 1GB)  Question: Since I only run Imail and
 Declude on the box, are there any issues that make XP or Win2000 a
 better operating system?  (We have campus licenses for both, so cost
 and availability are not
 problems.)
 
 

 Unless they've changed something,  XP is a workstation OS, and as such is
 limited to 10 client connection at a time.  I don't know it that only
 applies to Windows network connections, or incoming connections for any
 service.

 If the debate is Windows Server 2003 vs. Windows server 2000, I'm not sure
 there's a big different either way, though I'd probably install
 on WinServer
 2003 if given the choice.


 --
 
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 -
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Re[2]: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 Anyhow,  it  looks  to  this  layman  as  if  your  archives  may be
 subpoenaed  only if they exist. So, I changed to killing all logs at
 1 week age, and archive nothing.

SOX 802 specifically provides for prison time for deletion of data in
contemplation  of  matters that _are not yet under_ investigation and
matters  _that  may  not yet have begun_ at the time a deletion policy
took effect.

If  you  are subject to SOX, an attempt to subvert future subpoenas by
destroying  all  data  could  well  land  you in jail. As for statutes
outside  of  SOX  and NASD/SEC, the treatment may be far more lenient,
but the question here was about SOX.

--Sandy



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Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 I  am  trying  to  clear  up  a  debate  about whether or not we are
 required to archive our incoming and outgoing email. We are owned by
 a  public  company  and  we  do deal with financial transactions and
 peoples  personal  information. I cannot find a definitive answer on
 whether or not we have to archive email.

It  is  a  certainty  that  if  you are a wholly-owned subsidiary of a
SOX-bound  company,  you  too  must  comply  with  SOX regulations and
archive  all  incoming  and  outgoing  mail (as well as numerous other
data-related compliance measures).

If  your  parent  company is subject to SOX, so are you. If they don't
have  a  lawyer  capable  of  confirming  that  they are following all
applicable regulations, they need to get one.

--Sandy



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Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Rick Davidson
Ask someone authoritative in your parent company (get in in writing).
contact the evil empire?
Then do what they say.
shiver
:-)
We try to stay completely autonomous from the parent company, not sure of 
the details but there were some anti-trust issues not too long ago.

Sandy,
thanks for the input, your responses reinforce what I am trying to convey to 
management.

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 14:39:16, Rick Davidson wrote:
I am trying to clear up a debate about whether or not we are required
to archive our incoming and outgoing email. We are owned by a public
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[IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread Mario Antonio
Dear List,

My server is having problems delivering email to just one specific mail
server. I can see that this server (64.202.166.12) had blakclisted my
server, perhaps because it does not pass some helo checks.

I have reviewed my configurations, and they look Ok:  relay only for my
local addresses, PTR records, etc.

Is there something that I am overlooking, or perhaps It's just some
misconfigurations in that server's anti-spam system?

Any suggestions?

Here is some of the log entries:

10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Trying businessrulesinc.com (0)
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Connect businessrulesinc.com [64.202.166.12:25]
(1)
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 220 rblsmtpd.local
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) EHLO mail.webjogger.net
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 553 204.8.81.2 mail rejected due to excessive
spam (bogus helo  matches rcpt aile@)
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) QUIT



Regards

Mario Antonio

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Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is there something that I am overlooking, or perhaps It's just some
misconfigurations in that server's anti-spam system?
It's probably something on their end:
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) EHLO mail.webjogger.net
Your EHLO is fine.  But:
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 553 204.8.81.2 mail rejected due to excessive
spam (bogus helo  matches rcpt aile@)
they claim that your mailserver is sending excessive spam -- but they also 
imply that the problem is that your HELO is bogus (which it isn't), and 
that your HELO matches rcpt aile@ (which makes no sense to someone who 
doesn't know what they are talking about).

If they *did* configure their software properly (meaning that they want to 
reject your mail), they are giving you a nonsensical reason.

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Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 10:18  13:22  SMTP-(085C0101)  553  204.8.81.2  mail rejected due to
 excessive spam (bogus helo matches rcpt aile@)

The  'bogus helo' message may be irrelevant. What about the 'excessive
spam'  part?  Have  you  searched  your logs for 'aile@'? When you say
'relay   only  for  my  local  addresses,'  I  presume  you  mean  'IP
addresses,' as in the IMail setting, no?

Just  stabbing  in  the dark here...your HELO round-trips fine through
DNS.

--Sandy



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RE: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Relay for local addresses, yippie, I can send out spam through your server.
Oh, and hey, they will be confused because you have 4 MX records pointing at
the same IP address. Even better, the PTR never matches the A record nor the
HELO.

John Tolmachoff
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Antonio
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues
 
 Dear List,
 
 My server is having problems delivering email to just one specific mail
 server. I can see that this server (64.202.166.12) had blakclisted my
 server, perhaps because it does not pass some helo checks.
 
 I have reviewed my configurations, and they look Ok:  relay only for my
 local addresses, PTR records, etc.
 
 Is there something that I am overlooking, or perhaps It's just some
 misconfigurations in that server's anti-spam system?
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Here is some of the log entries:
 
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Trying businessrulesinc.com (0)
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Connect businessrulesinc.com
[64.202.166.12:25]
 (1)
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 220 rblsmtpd.local
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) EHLO mail.webjogger.net
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 553 204.8.81.2 mail rejected due to excessive
 spam (bogus helo  matches rcpt aile@)
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) QUIT
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 Mario Antonio
 
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Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley

2004-10-19 Thread Rick Davidson
Hi Dan,
Sandy's post referes to this, if your a private company its probly ok, but 
its still best practice to keep a log history in case you need to cover your 
rear

 Sec. 802(a) Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, 
covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or 
tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the 
investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction 
of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under 
title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, 
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or 
both.

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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From: Sanford Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dan Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:29 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] OT: Sarbanes-Oxley


Anyhow,  it  looks  to  this  layman  as  if  your  archives  may be
subpoenaed  only if they exist. So, I changed to killing all logs at
1 week age, and archive nothing.
SOX 802 specifically provides for prison time for deletion of data in
contemplation  of  matters that _are not yet under_ investigation and
matters  _that  may  not yet have begun_ at the time a deletion policy
took effect.
If  you  are subject to SOX, an attempt to subvert future subpoenas by
destroying  all  data  could  well  land  you in jail. As for statutes
outside  of  SOX  and NASD/SEC, the treatment may be far more lenient,
but the question here was about SOX.
--Sandy

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Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread Mario Antonio
Scott,

Thanks for your prompt reply.
I will contac the net administrator in that company, sometimes it is tough
to talk about these kind of misconfigurations, and get a good response. I
will give it a try.

Regards

Mario Antonio


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From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues



 Is there something that I am overlooking, or perhaps It's just some
 misconfigurations in that server's anti-spam system?

 It's probably something on their end:

 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) EHLO mail.webjogger.net

 Your EHLO is fine.  But:

 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 553 204.8.81.2 mail rejected due to excessive
 spam (bogus helo  matches rcpt aile@)

 they claim that your mailserver is sending excessive spam -- but they also
 imply that the problem is that your HELO is bogus (which it isn't), and
 that your HELO matches rcpt aile@ (which makes no sense to someone who
 doesn't know what they are talking about).

 If they *did* configure their software properly (meaning that they want to
 reject your mail), they are giving you a nonsensical reason.

 -Scott
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Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread Mario Antonio
Sandy,

Thanks for your comments. I will look for that string in my logs.
Yes, (The SMTP security Tab in Imail) I relay mail  just for our block of IP
Addresses (our customers)

Regards

Mario Antonio

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From: Sanford Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mario Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues


  10:18  13:22  SMTP-(085C0101)  553  204.8.81.2  mail rejected due to
  excessive spam (bogus helo matches rcpt aile@)

 The  'bogus helo' message may be irrelevant. What about the 'excessive
 spam'  part?  Have  you  searched  your logs for 'aile@'? When you say
 'relay   only  for  my  local  addresses,'  I  presume  you  mean  'IP
 addresses,' as in the IMail setting, no?

 Just  stabbing  in  the dark here...your HELO round-trips fine through
 DNS.

 --Sandy


 
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Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 Even better, the PTR never matches the A record nor the HELO.

Actually:

 10.4.18.64.in-addr.arpa name = webjogger.net.mail1.psmtp.com

(That's  for the MXs. The first hostname does match up, but the use of
an outsourced MX provider is not related to the sending issues, in any
case.)

As   for  mail.webjogger.net  (204.8.81.2),  the  outbound  server  in
question, it matches up fine as well.

--Sandy



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Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread Mario Antonio
John,

Those configs are for incoming email (Postini stuff), Perhaps I am wrong but
in the case of outgoing email, what matters is the PTR records of the host
sending email.

Regards

Mario Antonio

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From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues


Relay for local addresses, yippie, I can send out spam through your server.
Oh, and hey, they will be confused because you have 4 MX records pointing at
the same IP address. Even better, the PTR never matches the A record nor the
HELO.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Antonio
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

 Dear List,

 My server is having problems delivering email to just one specific mail
 server. I can see that this server (64.202.166.12) had blakclisted my
 server, perhaps because it does not pass some helo checks.

 I have reviewed my configurations, and they look Ok:  relay only for my
 local addresses, PTR records, etc.

 Is there something that I am overlooking, or perhaps It's just some
 misconfigurations in that server's anti-spam system?

 Any suggestions?

 Here is some of the log entries:

 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Trying businessrulesinc.com (0)
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Connect businessrulesinc.com
[64.202.166.12:25]
 (1)
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 220 rblsmtpd.local
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) EHLO mail.webjogger.net
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 553 204.8.81.2 mail rejected due to excessive
 spam (bogus helo  matches rcpt aile@)
 10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) QUIT



 Regards

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Re: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

2004-10-19 Thread Devaprasad Kantharaj
Hey John,

If you are speaking of using a desktop operating system for your IMail box, I HIGHLY 
recommend against it. If you are using a desktop OS now, that is probably why your 
performance might be degrading.

You could actually take your existing box, upgrade the RAM (and hard drive if needed), 
upgrade the OS to a server OS (2000 or 2003) and see a significant improvement in 
performance.

The difference between workstation and server OS makes a BIG difference.

Prasad

Devaprasad Kantharaj
MIS Director, TVCCA

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Date:  Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:28:37 -0500

I'm looking to upgrade our Imail box (Dell Optiplex, 600mhz, 256MB,
Win2000). We get about 500K messages a month, so a solid desktop will do us.
(Looking at Dell 3.2GHz, 1GB)  Question: Since I only run Imail and Declude
on the box, are there any issues that make XP or Win2000 a better operating
system?  (We have campus licenses for both, so cost and availability are not
problems.)

Thanks,
John


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RE: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues

2004-10-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
True, but some mail servers are testing to see if settings match. 

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Antonio
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues
 
 John,
 
 Those configs are for incoming email (Postini stuff), Perhaps I am wrong
but
 in the case of outgoing email, what matters is the PTR records of the host
 sending email.
 
 Regards
 
 Mario Antonio
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:16 PM
 Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues
 
 
 Relay for local addresses, yippie, I can send out spam through your
server.
 Oh, and hey, they will be confused because you have 4 MX records pointing
at
 the same IP address. Even better, the PTR never matches the A record nor
the
 HELO.
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Antonio
  Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:58 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [IMail Forum] Bogus Helo Issues
 
  Dear List,
 
  My server is having problems delivering email to just one specific mail
  server. I can see that this server (64.202.166.12) had blakclisted my
  server, perhaps because it does not pass some helo checks.
 
  I have reviewed my configurations, and they look Ok:  relay only for my
  local addresses, PTR records, etc.
 
  Is there something that I am overlooking, or perhaps It's just some
  misconfigurations in that server's anti-spam system?
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Here is some of the log entries:
 
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Trying businessrulesinc.com (0)
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) Connect businessrulesinc.com
 [64.202.166.12:25]
  (1)
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 220 rblsmtpd.local
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) EHLO mail.webjogger.net
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 250 rblsmtpd.local
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) 553 204.8.81.2 mail rejected due to
excessive
  spam (bogus helo  matches rcpt aile@)
  10:18 13:22 SMTP-(085C0101) QUIT
 
 
 
  Regards
 
  Mario Antonio
 
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Re: [IMail Forum] upgrading system box

2004-10-19 Thread Martin Schaible
Hi,

Prasad brings it to the point. Use Windows 2003 Server, at least double the memory and 
your IMail
server will be happy for the rest of its live.





Am Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 um 00:05 schrieben Sie:

 Hey John,

 If you are speaking of using a desktop operating system for your IMail box, I HIGHLY
 recommend against it. If you are using a desktop OS now, that is probably why your
 performance might be degrading.

 You could actually take your existing box, upgrade the RAM (and hard drive if
 needed), upgrade the OS to a server OS (2000 or 2003) and see a significant 
 improvement
 in performance.

 The difference between workstation and server OS makes a BIG difference.

 Prasad

 Devaprasad Kantharaj
 MIS Director, TVCCA

 -- Original Message --
 From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:28:37 -0500

 I'm looking to upgrade our Imail box (Dell Optiplex, 600mhz, 256MB,
 Win2000). We get about 500K messages a month, so a solid desktop will do us.
 (Looking at Dell 3.2GHz, 1GB)  Question: Since I only run Imail and Declude
 on the box, are there any issues that make XP or Win2000 a better operating
 system?  (We have campus licenses for both, so cost and availability are not
 problems.)

 Thanks,
 John


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