[IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2005-03-25 Thread Ed Butler (49pence)
We've been getting 5-10 emails every day with this format:

===
Subject: Orphaned files in spool directory
Body:
IMail detected a fatal error while attempting delivery.
The messages causing this error have been orphaned in the IMail spool
directory.

Please contact Ipswitch Technical Support.
===

We were previously running 8.14, but I've upgraded the server to 8.15 HF1.

Has anyone come across similar performance?

Regards,

Ed Butler
RapidSwitch Ltd

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[IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2005-01-27 Thread maillists




Since a few months, IMail keeps orphaning mails in the spool 
directory and sending mails to the postmaster:"Delivery Failure - Orphaned 
files in spool directory"This means that 
mails are dropped without the user being notified,involvingthe 
postmaster to take corrective actions.

I followed KB http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20040920-DM01.htmand 
got Ipswitch's answer that is is a known problem. So far, there is no 
fix.Who else has this problem?
Today, I updated from 8.14HF1 to 8.15. I think it is 
definitely time to think over my loyality with this product...
Marius



Re: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2005-01-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

Since a few months, IMail keeps orphaning mails in the spool directory and 
sending mails to the postmaster:
Delivery Failure - Orphaned files in spool directory

This means that mails are dropped without the user being notified, 
involving the postmaster to take corrective actions.
An orphaned file occurs when IMail cannot deliver an E-mail, and it cannot 
deliver the bounce either.  For example, if I send an E-mail from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED], how do you 
expect me to get a bounce message?  It can't happen, the way that SMTP works.

In fact, no mailserver can deliver such an E-mail.
Who else has this problem?
Today, I updated from 8.14HF1 to 8.15. I think it is definitely time to 
think over my loyality with this product...
There is no problem.   It is just how SMTP works.  If you still aren't 
convinced, write a letter (not E-mail) with a fake address and fake return 
address, and see if the post office delivers it to you.

   -Scott
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RE: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2005-01-27 Thread maillists
Thank you Scott.
Sorry, both the sender and recipient addresses are valid... So much for 
jumping at conclusions.
It is a known problem of the SMTP service, crashing on certain unknown 
conditions.

- Quote from Ipswitch support case [T2004121004L6] -
ERR 005 - Send message thread exception handled Step = 54555659
We have a defect for this that testing and development are working on. I do 
not know how soon this will be fixed.
- End quote -

Again, is anybody else experiencing these errors on a regular base?
Marius
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry

Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:00 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory


Since a few months, IMail keeps orphaning mails in the spool directory

and

sending mails to the postmaster:

Delivery Failure - Orphaned files in spool directory



This means that mails are dropped without the user being notified,

involving the postmaster to take corrective actions.
An orphaned file occurs when IMail cannot deliver an E-mail, and it cannot
deliver the bounce either. For example, if I send an E-mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED], how do you
expect me to get a bounce message? It can't happen, the way that SMTP works.
In fact, no mailserver can deliver such an E-mail.
Who else has this problem?



Today, I updated from 8.14HF1 to 8.15. I think it is definitely time to

think over my loyality with this product...
There is no problem. It is just how SMTP works. If you still aren't
convinced, write a letter (not E-mail) with a fake address and fake return
address, and see if the post office delivers it to you.
-Scott
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Re: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2005-01-27 Thread Tripp Allen
Marius,

We've been able to duplicate the error using the orphaned files in 8.14, but 
not in 8.15.  Are you still seeing the issue in 8.15?

Thanks,
Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory


Thank you Scott.

Sorry, both the sender and recipient addresses are valid... So much for
jumping at conclusions.
It is a known problem of the SMTP service, crashing on certain unknown
conditions.

- Quote from Ipswitch support case [T2004121004L6] -
ERR 005 - Send message thread exception handled Step = 54555659
We have a defect for this that testing and development are working on. I do
not know how soon this will be fixed.
- End quote -

Again, is anybody else experiencing these errors on a regular base?

Marius

-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry

Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:00 PM

To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com

Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory





Since a few months, IMail keeps orphaning mails in the spool directory

and

sending mails to the postmaster:

Delivery Failure - Orphaned files in spool directory



This means that mails are dropped without the user being notified,

involving the postmaster to take corrective actions.

An orphaned file occurs when IMail cannot deliver an E-mail, and it cannot

deliver the bounce either. For example, if I send an E-mail from

[EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED], how do you

expect me to get a bounce message? It can't happen, the way that SMTP works.

In fact, no mailserver can deliver such an E-mail.

Who else has this problem?



Today, I updated from 8.14HF1 to 8.15. I think it is definitely time to

think over my loyality with this product...

There is no problem. It is just how SMTP works. If you still aren't

convinced, write a letter (not E-mail) with a fake address and fake return

address, and see if the post office delivers it to you.

-Scott

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RE: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2005-01-27 Thread maillists
Tripp,
I updated from 8.14HF1 to 8.15 last night. I'll watch it for a few days now.
Some of the orphaned mails were targeted to maildomains having an a-record 
instead of a regular MX.
Marius
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tripp Allen
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 4:52 PM
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

Marius,
We've been able to duplicate the error using the orphaned files in 8.14, but
not in 8.15. Are you still seeing the issue in 8.15?
Thanks,
Tripp 

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[IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2004-09-21 Thread Basel AlDarras








Dear All



I have the following mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 



Subject: Delivery Failure - Orphaned
files in spool directory



IMail detected a fatal error while
attempting delivery.

The messages causing this error have
been orphaned in the IMail spool directory.



Please contact Ipswitch Technical Support.





Best Regards,

Basel










[IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2004-09-21 Thread Basel AlDarras








Dear All



I have the following mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 



Subject: Delivery Failure - Orphaned
files in spool directory



IMail detected a fatal error while
attempting delivery.

The messages causing this error have
been orphaned in the IMail spool directory.



Please contact Ipswitch Technical Support.





Best Regards,

Basel










[IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2004-05-19 Thread Sophia Pitt
Hi,
I received several of these emails yesterday. Can anyone give me some help on 
whatcauses this and what can I do to fix it?
The message in the email is below...

IMail detected a fatal error while attempting delivery.
The messages causing this error have been orphaned
in the IMail spool directory.


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Re: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory

2004-05-19 Thread Eric Shanbrom [Ipswitch]
This means there was a problem with a message that thre Queue Manager
couldn't handle. If you are running a version of IMail prior to v8.11
upgrading to it should solve all of those problems. If you are running 8.11
then you need to get in touch with support  sowe can collect the data we
need to fix this as well.

Eric S
- Original Message - 
From: Sophia Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:07 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Orphaned files in spool directory


 Hi,
 I received several of these emails yesterday. Can anyone give me some help
on whatcauses this and what can I do to fix it?
 The message in the email is below...

 IMail detected a fatal error while attempting delivery.
 The messages causing this error have been orphaned
 in the IMail spool directory.


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